WHO continues to go full Ministry of Truth

‘Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past’.

Orwell’s 1984

The climate wars which reached fever pitch a decade ago gave us a window into this sort of behavior by government bureaucrats.

The Internet and new media have given us additional visibility into the unrepentant behavior of those who would lie to us for our own good. I cannot overstate my disgust with those who have completely destroyed the credibility of the medical establishment.

God help us if something serious actually occurs.

Here is the WHO rewriting history and definitions to further their agenda.

Orwell did not envisage how simple it would be for the Ministry of Truth to rewrite history when it’s on the Internet.

Here is the current page where this content resides.

Notice in this video embedded on the page, this lying bureaucrat claims: “We have no therapeutics” and postulates a case fatality rate of 1%.


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December 23, 2020 10:07 am

So no way to treat…

Watch senate testimony…


Go to India Mart and find ivermectin supplier that takes PayPal, it is easy

Protect you family

Reply to  Devils_Tower
December 23, 2020 10:53 am

Tractor Supply Company carries Ivermectin. It’s used as a wormer for livestock.

Reply to  V.Dominique
December 23, 2020 11:50 am


Yes, that is one way.
India has pulled back from the edge of disaster…

Reply to  V.Dominique
December 23, 2020 11:52 am

Suddenly my horse has worms then.

Reply to  V.Dominique
December 23, 2020 2:55 pm

Please do not ever mention covid-19. I called ahead to see supply I mentioned my two dogs (not collies or herding dogs that may have the mutation that causes problems) and Heartguard is way too expensive. In this area you order online if a TSC is not nearby and do a “virus free pickup” My cost was about $4 a tube (plus 2 gallons of gasoline). A tube will treat a 1250 lb horse or an ten 125 lb donkeys/dogs/cats/…Dosage is weight dependent.

Reply to  V.Dominique
December 23, 2020 5:17 pm

I had to buy from WalmartPetRx when Tractor Supply refused to sell to me. (May have changed…) Took a dose myself (2 grams of 1% solution in applesauce). Normally use for anti-heartworm in our dogs. Works great.
Main difference between human stuff and pet stuff is the cost of liability insurance to the producer/distributor. Do you really think that a rich rancher will stand by if his $25,000 prize cow was threatened with non-USP Ivermectin?
No Covid19 yet, and I’m 78 yo.

Reply to  V.Dominique
December 24, 2020 4:02 am

yes BUT check the dose per kilo Carefully
make sure of if being oral drench over EXTERNAL use versions
it matters. follow dosages but overdosing a little bit prob wont have much in the way of side effects
external use is a ml rubbed into skin and wait a day apply another ml(thats an aussie sheep external product)
repeat in 2 to 3mths

Reply to  Devils_Tower
December 23, 2020 12:07 pm
Paul C
Reply to  Alex
December 23, 2020 2:53 pm

No need to look at monkey data. Speculation about how it’s successful use in monkeys translates to humans dosage is trumped by actual usage in humans. Using safe human doses, every trial gets positive results. Usually small trials as there is no money for the drug companies in such a cheap generic drug.

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Reply to  Devils_Tower
December 23, 2020 5:52 pm

a whole lot easier and cheaper….pigeon, chicken, bird breeders have it online

December 23, 2020 10:11 am

The Marxists have gained control of the media and use it to further their ideology. Nothing more needs to be said. 1984 became reality. The only way to counter media misinformation is to provide unbiased, uncensored alternates and for the people to have access to those sources.

Reply to  markl
December 23, 2020 11:56 am

Fortunately we have Twitter and YouTube to police and remove all internet misinformation. Big tech always has our back.

Reply to  markl
December 24, 2020 4:04 am

the media has ALWAYS lied and been under govt control to a fair degree
its just you see it now because of the ability to use alt media sources
and that why the net controls etc are being pushed

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December 23, 2020 10:23 am

   Users of RT-PCR reagents should read the IFU carefully to determine if manual adjustment of the PCR positivity threshold is necessary to account for any background noise which may lead to a specimen with a high cycle threshold (Ct) value result being interpreted as a positive result. The design principle of RT-PCR means that for patients with high levels of circulating virus (viral load), relatively few cycles will be needed to detect virus and so the Ct value will be low. Conversely, when specimens return a high Ct value, it means that many cycles were required to detect virus. In some circumstances, the distinction between background noise and actual presence of the target virus is difficult to ascertain.

On the other hand…

December 23, 2020 10:26 am

Going to Ministry of Truth
In the UK we do it differently

Ron Long
Reply to  Vuk
December 23, 2020 10:49 am

Vuk, I´m sorry you made me watch that.

Reply to  Vuk
December 23, 2020 11:28 am

Vuk I’m glad I watched that, very funny. Sadly we’ve long past the point where real politics is even sillier. Thanks for the laugh.

Nick Schroeder
December 23, 2020 10:34 am

I don’t have a problem with WHO or CDC data. Maybe that’s because I actually study it.

It’s the politicians and press that are lying to us.

85.6% of C-19 CASES are among those UNDER 65 years of age. (CDC)
80.7% of C-19 DEATHS are among those OVER 65 years of age. (16% of population)
24.8% of C-19 deaths occurred in nursing homes and hospice care.

Between 12/9/20 and 12/16/20 CDC logged 14,531 deaths attributed to C-19. There were 74,340 deaths due to all causes. The 65+ demographic was accountable for 85% of those C-19 deaths.

If you are 65+ w multiple health issues in a crowded nursing home and the staff brings in C-19 you are screwed, but then you were screwed anyway. In other words: If you are already seriously ill, C-19 will probably finish you off, i.e. no different from the seasonal flu or pneumonia

C-19 is not a problem for the young and healthy herd. Mother Nature and her buddy Grim Reaper are just doing their jobs, culling the herd of the too many, too old, too sick warehoused too close together as Medicare/Medicaid cash cows in poorly run contagious lethal elder care facilities.

Japan has the highest percentage of 65+, 27%, yet still under 3,000 deaths. (WHO)
What do they know/do the rest of the world does not?

If C-19 is mostly killing off old sick people why are our elected morons suspending civil liberties, due process, bankrupting the country with lockdowns, distancing and masked clown shows? Guess they can’t impose the NWO Grand Reset with actual facts. And the lying, fact free, fake news MSM left-wing propaganda coup machine has betrayed its responsibility to democracy and an informed public.

Reply to  Nick Schroeder
December 23, 2020 11:42 am

Your “politicians” and “the press” will say whatever WHO wants them to say. Boy, have you got it backwards!!

Graeme McMillan
Reply to  Nick Schroeder
December 23, 2020 3:17 pm

Hi Nick,
I watch the Scottish numbers.
The age group most at risk is the over 75.
ALL “excess” deaths in Scotland now are in the over 75 age group.
despite that, your comments are spot on!

Reply to  Nick Schroeder
December 24, 2020 3:16 am

Japan has the highest percentage of 65+, 27%, yet still under 3,000 deaths. (WHO)
What do they know/do the rest of the world does not?

Two factors in Japan are very different from western countries. Firstly, they in general follow what the government say they should do.

Secondly, everyone is using masks.

If you ask me, I think masks are the thing that make the most difference. I think it is obvious that masks stop most droplets.

Reply to  Jan kjetil Andersen
December 24, 2020 3:31 am

I agree Jan, in MN they instituted a mask mandate and cases sky rocketed.

Reply to  Derg
December 24, 2020 11:53 am

I see your sarcasm Derg.

there may be a correlation between mask mandate and number of cases.

Howeverer, I think the causation goes the other way. When the authorities see that cases go up, they issue a mask mandate.

I cannot see any reason for not assuming that breathing through a piece of fabric will not stop most droplets.

Reply to  Jan kjetil Andersen
December 24, 2020 1:29 pm

What about deflection, spread of droplets to the side vs. in front?

What about breathing through a saturated mask (as happens to most cloth masks within about 30 minutes)?

BTW, several charts of cases vs mask mandates would suggest otherwise:

Reply to  TonyG
December 25, 2020 12:01 am

What about deflection, spread of droplets to the side vs. in front?

It must be better to spread some of the droplets to the side and close to your head than sending all of them right in the direction of the person you are talking to.

What about breathing through a saturated mask (as happens to most cloth masks within about 30 minutes)?

Personally, I seldom wear a mask that long. I take it on when I enter a shop, and take it off when I go outdoors. If you want to hang around in a mall you should change them from time to time.

I see it as a minor inconvenience that I am willing to accept for doing what I can to minimize the spread.

Reply to  Jan kjetil Andersen
December 26, 2020 1:32 pm

<i>It must be better to spread some of the droplets to the side and close to your head than sending all of them right in the direction of the person you are talking to.</i>

You’re making an assumption here about the spread, without data.

<i>Personally, I seldom wear a mask that long. I take it on when I enter a shop, and take it off when I go outdoors. If you want to hang around in a mall you should change them from time to time.</i>

Maybe YOU do, but you’re definitely the exception. Now let’s talk about the real world, where most people don’t do anything like you suggest, especially those “essential” grocery workers and the like. You think they’re swapping masks every 20 minutes?

That would be the real world where the data in those charts comes from, the charts that show cases increasing well after mask mandates.

MAYBE masks MIGHT help, IF everyone wore them properly. (Although all the real-world controlled studies (over 50 years worth) say otherwise.) But theoretical perfect actors does not match up with reality.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Jan kjetil Andersen
December 24, 2020 7:06 am

Cases in Japan and South Korea seem to be climbing in numbers.

Russ Wood
Reply to  Jan kjetil Andersen
December 26, 2020 4:16 am

As far as I am aware of, Japan has a basic drive towards extreme cleanliness. That, rather than the (probably useless) masks could go a long way towards explaining the lack of Japanese ‘cases’.

Reply to  Russ Wood
December 26, 2020 10:44 am

what kind of logic is behind the claim that “masks are useless”?

We know that the virus spred through droplets, and a fabric stops most droplets.

Reply to  Jan Kjetil Andersen
December 28, 2020 5:35 am

There’s empirical evidence. Go to lockdownsceptics.org – they had a posting sometime in the last few days.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Nick Schroeder
December 24, 2020 6:26 am

“C-19 is not a problem for the young and healthy herd.”

There are exceptions. If you are a young exception, you are going to have trouble with the Wuhan virus. I just read an article yesterday about a Florida University basketball player who collapsed last month and had to be put in the hospital.

It turns out he had the Wuhan virus a few months ago and recovered, but the Wuhan left some bad things behind and he was diagnosed with an inflamed heart.

This type of inflammation is fairly common with the Wuhan virus. The NCAA (college football) has set up protocols for college football players to test them for heart inflammation after they have contracted the Wuhan virus, and they don’t allow them to exercise to the maximum for a number of weeks after they recover for fear that they will exaserbate any inflammation they may have.

So the Wuhan virus can adversely affect any age group.

Early treatment with therapeutics would benefit all age groups by getting the virus out of your body as soon as possible, which will prevent the damage that might have occurred had the disease been allowed to run its course normally.

If you don’t like repurposed drugs, the Regeneron cocktail and Remdisivir, both of which were given to President Trump, are now readily available for people to use, but people have to ask their doctor for it because apparently many doctors won’t volunteer it because they have been discouraged from doing so by professional medical associations.

And now it looks like the World Health Organization is chiming in and disparaging therapeutics, while at the same time hospitals are overflowing with Wuhan virus patients!

It’s not just stupidity, it’s also a whole lot of politics.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 24, 2020 7:03 am

I suppose it would be in the Chicom’s interests to keep Western hospitals full of Wuhan virus patients.

David Blenkinsop
December 23, 2020 10:52 am

I see what you mean about WHO’s changing the definition of herd immunity from something that was intended to be scientifically general to something that is now just a plug for vaccination as the only “approved” way of obtaining immunity.

I continue to wonder if the current PCR tests are so sensitive that in a substantial fraction of cases, even a “true” positive test is just proving the previously acquired immunity of the person tested “positive”? If this is the case, will it work that way with some of the new vaccines, get injected, get immunity, and therefore test positive a few days later?

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  David Blenkinsop
December 23, 2020 11:27 am

Unfortunately, the Ct figure is not usually included in a positive test report. Some labs are doing 40 cycles, or even higher. There was one study done that segregated test results by Ct. If the result was <25, you were screwed, no matter your demographic. Between 25-<35, not so severe, in line with the Ct result (worse near the bottom end and tapering off toward the higher end). If >35, nearly no problem.

Larry in Texas
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
December 23, 2020 1:32 pm

Part of the problem is that the labs should be compelled to provide clinicians with the number of cycle thresholds involved in the test that gave a positive result. Probably by the state authorities that regulate these labs.

Reply to  David Blenkinsop
December 23, 2020 11:44 am

Ask Jon Rappoport.

David Blenkinsop
Reply to  marlene
December 23, 2020 1:18 pm

In response, I never heard of Jon Rappoport before, but I just looked him up via Duckduckgo, and read most of his Open Letter “Lockdowns are based on fraud .. “.
His discussion confirms some tech points that I’ve read before, and I can’t really fault his logic that many if not most “positives” on this are basically false. Of particular interest is the comment, towards the end of Rappoport’s Open Letter, that “Some [PCR] assays may detect only the novel virus [COVID] and some may also detect other strains (e.g. SARS-CoV) that are genetically similar.”

What kind of medical quality control is this, that someone’s exposure to a mild case of the sniffles could easily end up being an extreme caution as a spreader of the latest ‘fashion in apocalyse’, more or less?

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  David Blenkinsop
December 24, 2020 1:14 am

And why is that if someone appears to be positive and well that is not good news? This means the person has immunity?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
December 24, 2020 7:11 am

“This means the person has immunity?”

Normall, I would think so, but it seems there are those who are promoting the vaccination of people who have already contracted the Wuhan virus and recovered, like President Trump. They are asking, when is President Trump going to get vaccinated.

So that’s the question: If one has already had the Wuhan virus disease, do you still need to take the vaccine?

Reply to  David Blenkinsop
December 23, 2020 12:44 pm

I keep asking our local public health officials to disclose the Ct for the current PCR tests, and if the Ct has changed since testing began. They ignore all my requests, as this seems to be a rather sensitive subject. (Pun intended.) From my Internet research, I suspect that here in Ontario, Canada the Ct is in the 40+ range. Even the WHO has acknowledged a too-high Ct results in too many false positives.


I wonder if the PCR tests will have the Ct adjusted lower just in time to demonstrate how “successful” their vaccination/mitigation program was.

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Paul C
Reply to  PaulH
December 23, 2020 3:12 pm

From the above, even the WHO are capable of recognising when credibility has been lost.

5 Provide the Ct value in the report to the requesting healthcare provider.

Reply to  PaulH
December 23, 2020 6:37 pm

Wherever lockdowns are being ordered, people need to collectively demand evidence that the decision to lockdown has not been based on false positives.

Rory Forbes
December 23, 2020 11:09 am

And yet, the American public managed to allow the ritual destruction and public crucifiction of the only man willing and capapble of clawing back some of the rights and freedoms that were once taken for granted … President Trump. He was “cancelled” out of panic and cowardice because he wasn’t willing to swallow the Koolaid. US citizens are sitting on their hands while their way of life is being destroyed.

Reply to  Rory Forbes
December 23, 2020 11:27 am

The majority of the media and the swamp, DC and local metro areas, enabled the Trump overthrow, if you believe as I do that this was a coup by the left.

Gregg Eshelman
Reply to  JimG1
December 23, 2020 4:23 pm

When Trump went to Mt. Rushmore CNN had a black woman on saying he was standing in front of two slave owners on land stolen from native Americans. But their coverage of Biden’s visit gushed about how patriotic it was and how great the founding fathers were etc.

Do we need any more proof that CNN is completely the propaganda department of the Democratic Party?

Paul Penrose
Reply to  Gregg Eshelman
December 24, 2020 11:45 am

It’s a good thing that not too many people watch CNN. Their ratings among cable news channels is a distant third to Fox News (1st by a wide margin) and MSNBC (2nd but still far ahead of CNN).

Rory Forbes
Reply to  JimG1
December 23, 2020 10:15 pm

You’re right, JimG1 … his term was a whole string of coup attempts. The swamp were terrified of him. Only fear can cause that kind of reaction. He was exposing their hypocrisy and the non stop calumny of the media.

Janet Smith
Reply to  Rory Forbes
December 23, 2020 9:32 pm

The way this president was treated from the outset of his term was a triumph for the forces of the left aided by a hostile media. He will go down as one of the best presidents ever.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Janet Smith
December 23, 2020 10:10 pm

You’re right, Janet. What amazes me was how much he was able to accomplished with non stop attacks from both the outside and within. His achievements are unsurpassed in modern times … and to think I didn’t like him at the beginning, but he got stuff done and his foreign policy has been the most effective since the war.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Janet Smith
December 24, 2020 7:20 am

“He will go down as one of the best presidents ever.”

No doubt about it in my mind.

I don’t think Trump is going away, whatever happens.

I do think the Left will continue to prosecute him, whatever happens, because they want to make an example out of him. They don’t want anyone following in his footsteps because his way of looking at the world is a direct threat to the Left’s authoritarian/socialist control. So they punish him relentlessly.

And the other Republicans (with a few exceptions) shake with fear that they will be next and so they toe the leftwing line, or just shut up entirely. Cowards. Although they do have a good reason to be fearful of the Left. Look what they have done to those around Trump. That could be you, too, if you get on the Left’s radar.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 24, 2020 9:56 am

“We must, indeed, all hangtogether or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.”

They refuse to understand.

Peta of Newark
December 23, 2020 11:23 am

All I’m seeing there is an advertisement for ‘A Vaccine’

Why weren’t these adverts running 6 months ago – because there wasn’t anything to advertise and thus, nobody to pay for the adverts?

[Very loud clank is heard in the background]

Mmmmm, that was a big penny – wonder who dropped it?

Robert of Texas
December 23, 2020 11:35 am

I guess I fail to see what is causing your outrage.

Herd immunity is the slow-down and eventual stopping of infection due to the percentage of immunity in a population. It is mainly a factor of how easily transmitted the disease is within that population and the means of transmission.

People who study vaccines and disease response also refer to “achieving” herd immunity through vaccinating a sufficient number of individuals in the population.

Both are true statements.

As for the mortality rate, it is fairly low in most western countries (around 0.01 to 0.02 percent if I am doing my math right). That is double to triple the mortality rate for most Flu seasons, but still low. Mortality is DIRECTLY related to healthcare, so if you saturate the ability to respond with good healthcare you increase the mortality rate. In places like India, the mortality rate could very well reach between 0.5% and 1% for a brief periods of time in poor crowded areas before this is over. Because the cause of death records are so poor in many countries, we will likely never know for sure.

So I do not follow or understand the outrage at WHO. I am not defending them, I think they are a terrible organization full of politics and politicians, but they also likely have some competent people trying their best to improve things.

Reply to  Robert of Texas
December 23, 2020 11:42 am

It is the claim their are no theraputiecs that earn them a place in hell

Reply to  Robert of Texas
December 23, 2020 12:18 pm

So the only way to achieve herd immunity is by vaccination? That’s what the new definition says – exposure has no part in it. They removed a more complete and accurate definition in favor of a more politically expedient one.

Gregg Eshelman
Reply to  Robert of Texas
December 23, 2020 4:35 pm

Go back and read the original and the altered versions of their statement on herd immunity. They’ve changed it to remove natural herd immunity which happens when enough of a population has contracted a disease and survived, gaining immunity to another infection. When enough of a population has developed natural immunity, the likelihood of people who haven’t contracted the disease getting it drops a lot.

The current WHO page only mentions vaccination as leading to herd immunity.

It is better to use a good vaccine with a high % of success than it is to just let people get sick. A well run vaccination program, like for smallpox, can effectively eradicate a pathogen. The campaign against polio has been nearly as successful, though early on there were some goofs experimenting with weakening the virus to prompt a stronger immune response. Some vaccine batches either weren’t weakened enough, or at all, so some people got the nerve damage to various degrees. The worst effected had to go into “iron lungs” to be able to breathe. There are a few of them still living and recently some parts for their equipment became unavailable. Naomi Wu in China and some other hacker/makers accepted the challenge to manufacture the needed parts.

Reply to  Robert of Texas
December 24, 2020 4:18 am

funny that they push measles vax to 95% and still complain its not enough in Aus yet for covid ,WHO says 70 vaccinated would be enough?
reckon covid kill more than measles ever did unless your an immune weakened starved 3rd world baby or child

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December 23, 2020 11:37 am

Cures – If you doubt that discuss it with the doctors promoting them

1) Inhaled steroids like Budesonide

The interview with Dr. Richard Bartlett has been BANNED BY YOUTUBE: 

But you can still see it here starting around the 4 minute mark:

Cheap and can be used on very sick people with serious existing health conditions.

2) Ivermectin + Doxycycline + Zinc

Professor Thomas Borody developer of the triple therapy treatment for peptic ulcers in 1987.
“It’s easier than treating the flu now”. “You can actually eradicate it”. “We know it’s curable”


3) Swiss Policy Research HCQ+ Treatment Protocol (5 to 7 day regimen)

Zinc — 50 milligrams [mg] to 100 mg per day
Hydroxychloroquine — 400 mg per day
Quercetin — 500 mg to 1,000 mg per day
Bromhexine — 50 mg to 100 mg per day
Azithromycin — up to 500 mg per day
Heparin — usual dosage

Gerry McIsaac
Reply to  TRM
December 24, 2020 1:31 am

Whatever happened to the budesonide treatment? This is the first I’ve heard of this.

December 23, 2020 11:42 am

So herd immunity never existed prior to modern medicine?

This is sick

December 23, 2020 11:48 am

In this nation, there you have it. There was an election followed by physical, circumstantial (mostly time-line) evidence and sworn testimony of fraud. Our institutions, mainly the courts, find “no standing” while the press sees nothing what so ever and a thorough program of censorship begins. Finally, other than our president and few others, the public lets it go.

In the recent past, very few in Peru rescued their nation from the Chinese “Shining Path”. Columbia caught their way out of it. After many decades, Russia and Eastern Europe escaped. Most fell.

This will need to be the Lord’s battle. Way too few trust in the one true God.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  EOM
December 24, 2020 8:42 am

“Finally, other than our president and few others, the public lets it go.”

It just seems that way because the Media is not covering it.

It just goes to show the influence of the Media. If the Media isn’t talking about it, then nobody is talking about it. The Media gets to set the agenda with what they talk about, and what they don’t talk about.

A partisan Media is a dangerous thing to self-governing people.

Harry Passfield
December 23, 2020 12:02 pm

Look, when the MSM in the country of the leader of the free world ignores its Head of State in a major televised broadcast you should worry, biggly. This has to get better coverage: https://youtu.be/CjLT6hxEXNU
Trump lays it out – in spades.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Harry Passfield
December 24, 2020 9:01 am

I remember when the Leftwing Media refused to televise a Reagan speech.

The biased Media has been practicing its biased trade for a long time.

December 23, 2020 12:24 pm

Of course, many of our betters dislike the term “herd immunity”.
Even, WHO refers to “population immunity”, but some are calling it “community immunity”.

December 23, 2020 12:45 pm

The WHO is a United Nations entity. The UN is made up of bureaucrats. Why would anyone believe that anything that is presented by a UN entity is something other than globalist politics?


PS: Merry Christmas…a little prematurely.

December 23, 2020 1:20 pm

Mistake on banner . . . strentgh

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Warren
December 23, 2020 8:43 pm

This isn’t the mistake you’re looking for. Move along…

Rudy Kraus
December 23, 2020 1:40 pm

Opinion is now “the science”, with no evidence offered.

Reply to  Rudy Kraus
December 24, 2020 4:21 am

but ONLY certain opinions are ok

John A
December 23, 2020 1:41 pm

Could it be that WHO simply changed the language on Herd Immunity because the previous definition was wrong?

Herd immunity only happens as a result of a vaccine.

Reply to  John A
December 23, 2020 3:46 pm

So you’re claiming herd immunity did not exist until 1796?

Reply to  John A
December 23, 2020 4:01 pm

Herd immunity happens when enough people are immune to the virus that transmission of it can not be maintained (an R-naught value less than one). How does one become immune? Either via vaccination or having had the virus.

What happens: a person in the contagious period of the virus does not come into contact with a person still susceptible to the virus (i.e., non-immune), and the virus dies without having spread. Understand?

John in Oz
Reply to  John A
December 23, 2020 4:03 pm

In the video, the doctor admits that herd immunity can be attained through the population catching the virus. Her reticence is that this will take a long time and ‘they’ are not willing to suffer the consequences.

She does not say that vaccination is the ONLY way for herd immunity, only that they prefer the faster method of vaccinations.

The previous definition was not wrong.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  John in Oz
December 23, 2020 8:44 pm

Well, it would have gone MUCH faster if there were no precautions taken, and everyone was required to cough in a stranger’s face at least twice a day. Bang! Herd Immunity.

Reply to  John A
December 23, 2020 4:28 pm

Then why wasn’t it changed for the deadlier SARS coronavirus? Or the deadlier H1N1 flu. (Oh, and H1N1 is worse because it kills the healthy and young, unlike COVID-19 which, with very rare exceptions, kills only the very unhealthy and very old.)

Reply to  Wade
December 24, 2020 4:24 am

well the “deadlier H1N1 they had such fits about is still whizzing round in spite of vaccines. still takes a few out but nothing like the hysterics they promoted then
same useless antivirals sold billions@300 or so a pack
now remdesivir same useless muck with a 3k price tag

December 23, 2020 1:53 pm

WHO goes there? It walks among us.

William Astley
December 23, 2020 2:56 pm

I have seen had hard evidence that Covid is a designed bioweapon.

That would be a super big deal… if say the US Milt … where to take responsibility for solving the US COVID PROBLEM. I heard the US Military are going to make a formal announcement in the US on or before January 15th concerning covid’s origins.

There is in the UK the ‘discovery’ of a new strain of covid that is more contagious and that defeats the new vaccines

“Meanwhile, more than 50 nations have also imposed their own travel restrictions on the UK, including France.”

The new ‘strain’ of covid was designed using advance digital biological science that enables, any possible, precise change in the virus structure to be made for strategic deadly biological purposes using software.

The new digital biological engineering field; has found a way to create a perfect software model of virus like entities.

The software simulation of the virus; is then run on a second software package that determines the human body’s response to the new virus as well as virus natural mutations in response to its in counter with the simulated host.

The same software could take the digital representation of a new vaccine, run it in the simulated human body response to determine how the human body response would change. And then use that info to design a new version of Covid that can defeat the new vaccine,

So the Chinese covid biological package can using software make precise changes; Say to defeat the two new 95% effective vaccines; By suddenly 7 mutations that all happen to the key spike protein;

Which the new vaccines focused on.

The software code is then changed into live virus in a wet lab and released according to evil plan.

So do you understanding the Game?

The Western countries spend billions of dollars coming up with vaccines; And China gets a sample of the new vaccine and in new York minute…

Can ‘Design’ a new ‘version’ of covid that defeats the new vaccine.

“Anyone in the U.K. who has been in South Africa in the past fortnight, and anyone who is a close contact of someone who has been in South Africa in the past fortnight must quarantine immediately,” he said, adding that they must restrict all contact “with any person, whatsoever.”

30 years of Chinese propaganda was a complete waste of money. If the US public and the world find out an organized, state funded, group of evil people in China designed and released Covid and Covid Spike Protein modified.


“South African officials say they alerted the UK about this new variant last week,” she said.
“They say it spreads faster and could be responsible for the second wave (South Africa) is currently experiencing. It has been identified in Kwazulu-Natal province in the eastern cape and Garden Route area, that’s the Cape Town area.”

Reply to  William Astley
December 24, 2020 4:26 am

you gotta think its VERY ODD that in dam near 12 mths they cant find???? what animal vector its supposed to have jumped into from bats then to humans
sorta says bullshit its natural to me

December 23, 2020 3:50 pm

At Thanksgiving we had an extended family gathering and several became infected with C-19. No one became seriously ill but the disease infected some of us and not others in odd patterns. Three households all told, in two households with pairs of siblings one tested positive and one negative. This pattern also held true with the parents, moms tested positive dads negative. For myself and my wife we are both over 65 and experienced mild symptoms, felt slightly feverish for a day or two with chest congestion lasting about a week. We didn’t bother getting tested but self quarantined for a couple weeks. For us it seemed like a viral chest cold except several family members did experience loss taste sensation so Covid-19 infection did actually run through our family. We feel fortunate it touched us all very lightly. I wonder if we were sick enough to have acquired immunity?

Last edited 2 years ago by Thomas Finegan
December 23, 2020 7:54 pm

Bill Gates gets what he pays for…

December 24, 2020 6:42 am

I have tried hard to persuade friends of the threat to our freedoms being pursued by the UN but couldn’t seem to get through. Then I found this link to a WHO article:


Now they are all spoiling for a fight with anyone from the UN/WHO. Looks like you just need to find the right buttons to press!

December 24, 2020 11:42 am

Statista has very good graphs showing deaths by age groups by the decade. Italy and Sweden in particular are interesting because Italy locked down hard and Sweden famously did not.

December 25, 2020 8:09 am

I lost all confidence in the “medical establishment” when they trotted out the lies about eggs dairy. Far as I am concerned they have all been self-serving liars since then. They, as a collective, have all been lying for decades. Point in fact? Hydroxychloroquine. For their political gain they have lied about this for 10 months. All. Liars.

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