The Cost of EPA’s Senseless CO2 Capture

by Frits Byron Soepyan

In April 24, 2024, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (U.S. EPA) passed a new rule that would require coal power plants that plan to continue operating after January 1, 2039, and new natural gas power plants that plan to begin operation on or after 2035 to capture at least 90% of their CO2 emissions.

How much would this cost? And is it worth it?

Well, as they say, we ran the numbers. Thankfully, researchers from the National Energy Technology Laboratory (NETL) have provided the cost and performance estimates for retrofitting an existing coal power plant with Shell’s CANSOLV CO2 capture system.

For the performance and cost estimates, I will use the NETL estimates for 90% carbon capture. (Here, I am using the term “carbon capture,” rather than “CO2 capture,” because NETL uses the mass of carbon, rather than the mass of CO2, in its calculations.)

Before the retrofit, NETL’s baseline coal power plant had a net output of 650 megawatts (MW). But after retrofitting it with the CO2 capture system, the power output was reduced by 24% to 495 MW. In terms of money, the retrofit cost is about $988 million, or about $2 million/MW of net power output.

What do these numbers mean for the United States?

Based on the U.S. Energy Information Administration, as of March 2024, the United States has 148 coal power plants in operation in the electric utility sector, with an average capacity of about 139,000 MW. Of these, 36 plants plan to retire completely on or before December 2040 and 8 plants plan to retire at least one steam turbine on or before December 2034, but not entirely. Taking the difference of 148 and 36, there are 112 coal power plants in the United States without any planned retirement year, having a total average capacity of about 96,000 MW.

Using the NETL estimates, if we were to retrofit these 112 coal power plants to enable 90% carbon capture, the 24% net power output reduction would bring electricity production down to about 73,000 MW. Applying the retrofit cost of about $2 million/MW of net power output to the plants’ reduced power output, we arrive at a projected cost of about $146 billion.

Keep in mind, these estimates are only for coal power plants. We haven’t even gotten to retrofitting natural gas power plans, nor have we addressed the cost of replacing the tens of thousands of megawatts lost in the 24% production decrease of converted plants.

And what about constructing brand new natural gas power plants? How much would that cost?

Again, we turn to NETL for the estimates.

Using NETL’s baseline natural gas combined cycle (NGCC) power plant, the numbers provided by NETL include a cost of about $1.05 billion to construct a new 992 MW plant without CO2 capture and a cost of about $1.87 billion to construct a new 883 MW plant with 90% carbon capture. In other words, the 78% plant cost increase comes with an 11% net power output reduction.

So, we clearly are talking about a lot of money to remove most of the carbon dioxide from our American power plants fueled by fossil fuels. But is spending the extra money to capture CO2 worth it?

Based on the analysis performed using the Model for the Assessment of Greenhouse Gas Induced Climate Change (MAGICC), theoretically, if the United States ceased all CO2 emissions in 2010, the amount of warming averted would be only about 0.07 °F by 2050 and 0.19 °F by 2100. Such a temperature difference is negligible and can hardly be felt or measured.

Furthermore, in the United States in 2022, the CO2 emissions from coal and natural gas amounted to about 0.93 and 1.74 billion metric tons, respectively, for a total of 2.67 billion metric tons. However, the total CO2 emissions from fossil fuels and industrial processes amounted to 5.06 billion metric tons. This means that the CO2 emissions from coal and natural gas contributed to only about 53% of the total emissions. Therefore, the temperature rise averted by stopping all CO2 emissions from burning coal and natural gas becomes even smaller compared to the above estimates from MAGICC.

Finally, besides being expensive and futile, keep in mind: Plants need CO2, along with sunlight, water, and nutrients from the soil to produce oxygen and food, both of which are essential for all living beings.

In fact, higher concentrations of CO2 have enabled an increase in the growth, food production, water-use efficiency and drought resistance of plants, as well as the greening of Earth, as confirmed by NASA. According to NASA, 70% of this greening is attributed to “fertilization” by CO2.

Given the critical role CO2 plays in driving plant and crop growth, is spending over a hundred billion dollars to remove it from the air sensible? We think not.

Frits Byron Soepyan, a research and science associate at the CO2 Coalition, Arlington, Virginia, has a Ph.D. in chemical engineering from The University of Tulsa and has worked as a process systems engineer and a researcher in energy-related projects.

This commentary was first published at Newsmax on May 6, 2024.

CO2 Coalition Research and Science Associate Frits Byron Soepyan has a Ph.D. in chemical engineering from The University of Tulsa and has worked as a process systems engineer and a researcher in energy-related projects.

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May 9, 2024 3:09 am

re: “The … EPA’s Senseless CO2 Capture”
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“Idiocracy” (the movie) *** We are here ***

Scissor
Reply to  _Jim
May 9, 2024 5:38 am

Hard to believe, but there you have it.

Reply to  _Jim
May 9, 2024 6:27 am

This is just another round of the EPA’s implementation of the ‘Cloward and Piven’ strategy to overwhelm and destroy capitalism.

It ends with the collapse of either the Left’s regulatory state or the remaining vestiges of (classical) liberalism.

0perator
Reply to  _Jim
May 9, 2024 7:39 am

At least they had a charismatic president.

Milo
Reply to  _Jim
May 9, 2024 7:48 am

Not all living things need O2 and food from CO2, but animals and fungi do. Oxygen is poisonous to many living things.

Reply to  Milo
May 9, 2024 9:47 am

“Many”

There’s only one parasite that doesn’t need oxygen – enter Henneguya salminicola

There are many parasites living off the fear of good old CO2 – enter the warmunistas

Milo
Reply to  Redge
May 9, 2024 1:39 pm

Yes, many.

I guess you’ve never heard of anaerobic bacteria, like those in Genus Clostridium, which cause botulism and tetanus.

The biggest mass extinction event in history was the Great Oxygen Catastrophe, c. 2.46 Ga, which wiped out most life on Earth. Still, a lot of anaerobes managed to survive the wipe out.

“The majority of human gut microbiome is comprised of obligate anaerobic bacteria that exert essential metabolic functions in the human colon. These anaerobic gut bacteria constantly crosstalk with the colonic epithelium in a mucosal anoxic-oxic interface (AOI).”

You ought to refrain from commenting on topics about which you’re profoundly ignorant. But, given the down votes, apparently you’re not alone.

Milo
Reply to  Redge
May 9, 2024 6:15 pm

A human body contains more anaerobic microbial cells than it does human cells. That’s an indication of how many organisms there are which can live without oxygen.

Of course humans need O2 and food from photosynthesis, but most of those microbes don’t need us or other animals to live.

Reply to  Milo
May 9, 2024 9:14 pm

You ought to refrain from commenting on topics about which you’re profoundly ignorant.

My comment was intended as a play on words to describe the so-called green movement as parasites, so your insult wasn’t warranted.

I’m fully aware of the “lifestyle” of bacteria and mitochondria – I’d argue the purpose of higher forms of life is to ensure the single-celled life within us has a viable host for them to thrive.

Going beyond single-celled life there is currently only one species which is capable of living without oxygen, Henneguya salminicola.

You’re not the only one who has an interest in the natural world.

Milo
Reply to  Redge
May 10, 2024 9:48 am

Your interest is clearly insufficient. Other multicellular organisms exist besides your beloved parasite. Possibly, lots of them. We don’t know how many because deep sea sediments have only been systematically surveyed for them since 2010. But the first look found three:

https://bmcbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1741-7007-8-30

The first metazoa living in permanently anoxic conditions
You said there is only one anaerobic organsim on Earth, when in fact they might well be a majority of species, rare (so far) only among multicellular eukaryotes. But all archaea and many bacteria are anaerobic, so they’re a majority among prokaryotes.

For about the first third (or more) of life on Earth, all organisms were anaerobic. Even among unicellular eukaryotes, they’re common today, not just prokaryotes. It’s simply wildly wrong to maintain that “all life on Earth” depends upon oxygenic photosynthesis.

strativarius
May 9, 2024 3:10 am

If more CO2 greens the world, then less obviously makes it barren and inhospitable.

I can’t get my head around their mindset.

Rick C
Reply to  strativarius
May 9, 2024 9:42 am

You’d almost have to think that Biden’s EPA is just trying to destroy the fossil fuel industry and doesn’t give a damn about the economy or people.

Editor
Reply to  Rick C
May 9, 2024 7:13 pm

almost???

Reply to  strativarius
May 9, 2024 9:49 am

And much less makes it devoid of life except for Henneguya salminicola that cute little parasite

Milo
Reply to  Redge
May 9, 2024 8:14 pm

Never heard of anaerobic gut bacterium E. coli?

Or the entire Domain of life, Archaea, ie one third of all living things, all on their own without even factoring in bacteria?

“Archaea are obligate anaerobes living in environments low in oxygen (e.g., water, soil). Archaea are commensal in the intestine of ruminants and have recently been described in the human intestine, with Methanobacteriales most commonly reported.”

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/archaea#:~:text=Archaea%20are%20obligate%20anaerobes%20living,with%20Methanobacteriales%20most%20commonly%20reported.

Despite the advent of oxygenic photosynthesis, Earth is still teeming with anaerobic organisms, including on and in people, more numerous than out own cells, if smaller.

Someone
Reply to  strativarius
May 10, 2024 7:16 am

Their mindset is to make $$.

Harold Pierce
May 9, 2024 3:10 am

Most of the CO2 produced by the use of fossil fuels and from many natural sources such as forest fires is absorbed by the oceans and surface waters. In the oceans phytoplankton fix the CO2. This
is why the concentration in the air is currently only 424 ppm at the MLO. Land plants take up lots of CO2 also.

We don’t need to capture CO2. Mother Nature is doing a good job of removing CO2.

May 9, 2024 3:11 am

Earth, as confirmed by NASA. According to NASA, 70% of this greening is attributed to “fertilization” by CO2.

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Carbon dioxide is way more than mere fertilizer, it is a necessary component of photosynthesis: Water plus CO2 and sunlight produces the food we eat and the oxygen we breath. Every carbon atom in your body was once CO2 in the atmosphere. More CO2 in the atmosphere is better. Removing CO2 from the air is an idea totally without merit.

Reply to  Steve Case
May 9, 2024 1:03 pm

Removal of atm CO2 will help mitigate climate change, and therefore important

Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 9, 2024 1:56 pm

The Earth is still in a 2.56 million-year Ice Age named the Quaternary Glaciation with 90 percent of the fresh water locked away in ice caps and glaciers.

Outside of the Tropics, it is too cold to live almost everywhere without heating.

Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 10, 2024 2:33 am

ARRANT BS from a deep-red turnip-brain.

There is no evidence CO2 causes changes in the climate.

The planet is still very much in a deficit of CO2 for plant life requirements.

Mitigating CO2 will have absolutely ZERO effect on the global climate…

… and thanks to China, Asia, Africa and many other countries, any puerile and virtue-seeking attempts by gormless western governments will not have any effect whatsoever on global CO2 levels.

Old.George
May 9, 2024 3:12 am

Nutrition – CO2:plants :: O2:animals
Waste – O2:plants :: CO2:animals

May 9, 2024 3:31 am

How much should they extract? Is there a baseline figure? Who would govern the process? Sounds like playing with fire We need to control the ideas factories that are producing such concepts rather than CO2; one of them will, sooner or later, come up with a reasonable sounding idea that ever eager net zero fanatics will adopt just to push their dogma over the line which will make atomic warfare seem tame by comparison. The more such ideas are disparaged the more intense their propaganda, they just want to win at any cost. When the veil is eventually pulled to one side we will find clique of oligarchs bent on these aims, who have the money and now want a legacy who succeeded by applying onetrack mania. We have to resist them. It isn’t a beauty contest or a thing of ownership. Billions will not be consulted, people like Guyanese Irfaan Ali famously upbraiding the blob, as represented by BBC’s Stephen Sackur famously.

Reply to  Europeanonion
May 9, 2024 9:52 am

The baseline figure, plucked from thin air, is 350 ppm.

The CO2 they want to reduce is that expelled by the great unwashed.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Europeanonion
May 9, 2024 10:33 am

Extinction Rebellion is screaming for all of it to be removed.

derbrix
May 9, 2024 5:08 am

While the article is solely about capturing the CO₂ from coal burning plants, what of the other methods being used to remove it from the air itself? The monetary costs of these projects for a theoretical slight reduction overall should be emphasized to the public.

oeman50
May 9, 2024 5:41 am

The discussion and cost estimates are all about “carbon capture.” What about the transportation and storage of all the CO2? Pipelines for supercritical CO2 can cost from $2 million to $4 million per mile. For some areas, geologies that can store the CO2 are hundreds of mils away. And, all of the storage capacities are guesses, good guesses, but estimates nonetheless. Pig in a poke.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  oeman50
May 9, 2024 10:38 am

What do we do when the storage tanks get full?

Someone
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
May 10, 2024 7:12 am

Spend more money to build more storage tanks?

antigtiff
May 9, 2024 5:47 am

They are messing with one of the links (CO2) in the chain of life. What happened to Plant a Trillion Trees?

MarkW
Reply to  antigtiff
May 9, 2024 8:19 am

Doesn’t destroy capitalism.

Reply to  MarkW
May 9, 2024 2:00 pm

The capitalists are planning on making trillions of dollars from the $200+ trillion in spending it is estimated to reach nuttty zero.

Reply to  antigtiff
May 9, 2024 9:53 am

They cut them down to make way for wind “farms”

Someone
Reply to  antigtiff
May 10, 2024 7:09 am

Planting trees does not promise as much profit as carbon capture.

May 9, 2024 6:41 am

And this is being done even though there is no evidence that CO2 is anything other than a benign gas, essential for life on Earth.

There is no evidence CO2 is the control knob of the Earth’s atmosphere.

A connection between CO2 and the Earth’s temperatures and/or weather has never been demonstrated.

so our leaders are operating on false assumptions that will cost all of us dearly if allowed to continue.

I have hope that the next election will get us off this disastrous course and back to reality.

Joe Biden is the Worst President Evah! Now, Joe Biden has struck fear in all America’s allies by his withholding weapons shipments to Israel, one of our most important allies, for purely political reasons. Our other allies must be wondering how they will be treated when they are under attack.

Keep in mind that Biden will throw allies to the wolves at the first snarl from a dictator. He did it in Vietnam and he did it in Afghanistan. I’ll bet the fate of those people never enters Biden’s mind. He has no empathy or sympathy. He’s an evil man with no heart. You have to be an evil man to deliberately turn your back on tens of millions of innocent people, knowing your actions will result in the deaths and displacements of millions of people.

Worst, Most Dangerous President Evah! November 4, 2024, can’t come soon enough. I bet a lot of people in Israel are thinking that, too.

antigtiff
Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 9, 2024 7:22 am

Com’on……you gotta admit Joke Biden has an uncanny ability to choose the wrong way…every time……just do the opposite of Joke and you will not go wrong.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 9, 2024 7:39 am

re: “I’ll bet the fate of those people never enters Biden’s mind.”
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Little, it seems, enter his mind; Note this performance with a ‘friendly’ on a usually allied network:
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“The Polling Data Has Been Wrong All Along”: Watch Biden Deny Economic Reality In Train-Wreck CNN Interview
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And: https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1788347473892638830

MarkW
Reply to  _Jim
May 9, 2024 8:20 am

THey are laying the groundwork for pushing Biden out prior to election day.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 9, 2024 12:48 pm

Your post is the equivalent of flat earth junk science.

Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 10, 2024 2:36 am

Your comment is the equivalent of a mindless dead parrot.

Climate science is the very epitome of real flat-earth JUNK science. !

Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 9, 2024 2:03 pm

And Trump only wants to get more money for himself and to stay out of prison. Pick your poison.

Reply to  scvblwxq
May 9, 2024 3:25 pm

I’ll take Trump.

Beta Blocker
May 9, 2024 7:37 am

oeman50: “The discussion and cost estimates are all about “carbon capture.” What about the transportation and storage of all the CO2? Pipelines for supercritical CO2 can cost from $2 million to $4 million per mile. For some areas, geologies that can store the CO2 are hundreds of miles away. And, all of the storage capacities are guesses, good guesses, but estimates nonetheless. Pig in a poke.”

We can guess that the NETL estimates are ‘LCOE-like’ in that the reasonable costs of the CO2 transportation & storage infrastructure needed to handle the CO2 post-capture is not included in their estimates. (How convenient.)

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Beta Blocker
May 9, 2024 10:36 am

Simple point. If carbon capture is to go one forever, infinite storage capacity will be needed.
At some point, the storage will crowd out all the people.

Editor
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
May 9, 2024 7:17 pm

Here’s an idea: Capture the CO2 in the power station’s exhaust chimney, then release it from there for storage in the atmosphere. Some would leak into the oceans, but no system is perfect.

Dave Andrews
May 9, 2024 7:44 am

The IEA estimates that Carbon Capture, Utilisation and Storage (CCUS) will account for ONLY 8% of cumulative emissions reductions in their Net Zero Emissions by 2050 scenario.

They acknowledge “CCUS deployment has remained relatively flat in the last decade and this has led to progressive downward revisions in the role of CCUS in the IEA updated NZE Scenario” although 45 countries are said to have projects in development.

However, ” For all CCUS applications economic viability remains a significant hurdle as costs can be prohibitively high compared to unabated technologies. In addition long lead times for project development and implementation can further impede progress, particularly relating to CO2 Storage development”

IEA ‘CCUS Policies and Business Models: building a commercial market’ (Oct 2023)

In other words lets throw more untold billions at CCUS for a paltry 8% return and hope nobody notices amongst all the other billions and billions being wasted on Net Zero.

PMHinSC
May 9, 2024 8:32 am

Did I miss where and how the CO2 will be stored?

Reply to  PMHinSC
May 9, 2024 10:33 am

Yes. You can pressurize it and store it in tanks, but that takes fossil fuels to accomplish.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  PMHinSC
May 9, 2024 10:37 am

It was never disclosed.
I like storing CO2 in plants and the ocean with a smidgen going into glaciers.

PMHinSC
Reply to  PMHinSC
May 9, 2024 1:28 pm

Perhaps the carbon can be separated and make pencils.

May 9, 2024 9:09 am

It doesn’t cost anything when you just print money, right?

Next up, a trillion-dollar “Biden Bucks” bill featuring Clueless Joe is being announced in time for the DNC convention in August.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
May 9, 2024 10:38 am

Will it be Hunter’s picture on that $1T bill?

JamesD
May 9, 2024 9:50 am

Carbon capture is the next Ukraine money laundering scam. All the big boys, both Dem and RINO have huge investments in carbon capture. More taxpayer looting. Billions in government “incentives”.

Meanwhile Xi keeps opening a coal fired plant a week and laughs at the idiot Former West.

John Hultquist
May 9, 2024 10:09 am

 Why would investors volunteer money to support the CO2 capture schemes? The only upside is a guarantee of other people’s money (OPM). Even then, the potential return will be limited. I would find a place to invest with less-limiting potential. Carry this thought forward and a time will come when governments (tax payers) take on ownership of all base-load electric production. Perhaps that’s the plan.

Editor
May 9, 2024 7:12 pm

Turn off Washington DC. Turn them back on when they have seen sense. How else?

David S
May 9, 2024 9:10 pm

“(U.S. EPA) passed a new rule “. Once again a body of un-elected and unaccountable bureaucrats is creating rules that carry the force of law. The Constitution gives Congress exclusive power to write laws so in my opinion this is unconstitutional.

Bob
May 9, 2024 10:13 pm

Get rid of the EPA, there is plenty of evidence that they are not doing their job and the work they produce is dishonest.

barryjo
May 10, 2024 7:29 am

The old theatre saying was “How will it play in Peoria?” How woud this CO2 panic play in China or India?

Kieran O'Driscoll
May 12, 2024 7:30 am

This paper published by Havard in 2009 supports the numbers quoted above:
House, K. Z., Harvey, C. F., Aziz, M. J and Schrag. D. P.: “The Energy Penalty of Post-Combustion CO2 Capture & Storage and Its Implications for Retrofitting the U.S. Installed Base.” Energy & Environmental Science, Volume 2, Issue 2, 2009, pages 193-205
In summary:

Carbon capture from coal fired electrical generation plants has received much attention since these plants would provide relatively high concentrations of CO2 for compression. However, it has been shown that the additional energy requirement to compress this CO2 in terms of coal for existing coal plants would be between 50% and 80% and for new plants and with improvements to current compression technology could not reduce this additional energy requirement below 25% of current production. In 2009 it was estimated that to capture and store 80% of the U.S.A.’s coal-based CO2 emissions would require and additional 390 to 600 million tons of coal per year or an additional 62 to 92 gigawatts of CO2 free baseload power or a 15% to 20% reduction in the then current power use.

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