The Guardian: A Biden Presidency would Crack Down on Climate “Cheats”

Democrat Presidential wannabe Joe Biden. By David Lienemann – White House (V011013DL-0556), Public Domain, Link

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The Guardian fantasising how Biden might use the USA’s economic might to bully other nations on climate policy.

Biden as president would pursue climate ‘cheaters’ – and Australia could be among them

Scott Morrison has resisted a call to action from the UK – but the US would be hard to ignore

Richie Merzian

Wed 4 Nov 2020 10.46 AEDT

Whether Donald Trump loses or wins the presidential election, the US will officially withdraw from the Paris agreement on Wednesday. The US intention to withdraw was announced in mid-2017 and, exactly one year ago, formal notification was sent to the United Nations. It caps off four years of winding back climate action and the systematic dismantling of pollution safeguards across the country.

Within his first 100 days, Biden has committed to convene a climate world summit to directly engage the leaders of the major carbon-emitting nations of the world to persuade them to join the United States in making more ambitious national pledges, above and beyond the commitments they have already made. From the US, we could see a new, more ambitious emission reduction target than its underwhelming 26-28% by 2025 (if that sounds familiar, it’s because Australia has the exact same underwhelming target range but for 2030, and without the desire to improve it).

Importantly, Biden will pursue countries seen as “cheating” on climate action, using “America’s economic leverage and power of example”. Given the Morrison government’s insistence on using leftover carbon credits to avoid any credible emission reductions over the next decade – dubbed by the former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres as “cheating” and by numerous Australian law professors as legally baseless – Australia may be a target of that pursuit.

Morrison claims, “Our policies won’t be set in the United Kingdom, they won’t be set in Brussels, they won’t be set in any part of the world other than here.” I wouldn’t be so sure. When former president Obama pressured the Abbott government to do more on climate change in 2014, it had an impact. Let’s see what happens when Washington calls again.

Richie Merzian is director of the climate & energy program at independent think-tank The Australia Institute

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Second time in a week the Guardian has called on Biden to bully Australia on climate policy. Australia soundly rejected climate radicalism when we chose Scott Morrison over the climate first manifesto of then opposition leader Bill Shorten. But climate radicals like the Guardian are happy to celebrate the possibility the democratic will of the Australian people could be trampled if Biden wins.

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November 4, 2020 10:31 pm

“Given the Morrison government’s insistence on using leftover carbon credits”… We don’t need Kyoto left over carbon credits. Australia is a carbon sink.

November 4, 2020 10:40 pm

God forbid this clown winning the US presidency, this is only the tip of the iceberg, pun intended…

Reply to  Technetium99
November 5, 2020 10:50 am

It’s ALL a Democrat ploy – the enviro scare including the climate and green-energy nonsense, the full-Gulag lockdown for Covid-19, paid-and-planned protests by Antifa and BLM, AND NOW the mail-in ballot election ploy – it’s all false.

We published that the Climate-and-Green-Energy scare was a false narrative in 2002, and by 2009 I wrote that there was a covert agenda, Now the radical greens are admitting that “Global Warming aka Climate Change and Green Energy” was false propaganda, a smokescreen for their Marxist objectives.

I called Covid-19 correctly on 21March2020 – NO LOCKDOWN! Covid-19 was a relatively mild flu except for the very elderly and infirm. Covid-19 is less dangerous to the general public than seasonal flu’s of recent decades that nobody remembers – the full-Gulag lockdown was not just a huge over-reaction, it was a ploy to steal the election.

Sweden correctly did not impose the full-Gulag lockdown and had low death rates and has now achieved herd immunity – forget vaccines, all flu’s die because herd immunity is reached.

The Covid-19 lockdown was used to enable the huge mail-in vote, where the Dems were able to produce hundreds of thousands of false ballots. All the pieces of the puzzle are now in place.

The radical green objective is to destroy prosperity and move the USA into a planned economy – with a few rich at the top looking down on the many poor peasants – that now describes most countries, and the USA is next if Biden wins.

We stand at the abyss. If Biden wins, it will be one man, one vote, once – the end of freedom. Europe and Canada have already fallen far down that “road to Venezuela”. If America falls, there will be nowhere left to run to.

Reply to  Technetium99
November 5, 2020 1:51 pm

Why Does Biden Have So Many More Votes Than Democrat Senators In Swing States?

We gotta fire up the surface station project!

willem post
Reply to  john
November 6, 2020 1:04 am


Voter tallies before the bump in Michigan:
Trump had 2,200,902 votes
Biden 1,992,356 votes
Trump had a lead of 208,546 votes, which COULD NOT BE OFFSET by mostly Democrat mail-in votes.

Voter tallies after the bump in Michigan:
Trump had 2,200,902 votes
Biden had 2,130,695 votes
Trump had a lead of only 70,307 votes, which COULD EASILY be offset with mostly Democrat mail-in votes

The INSTANT Biden bonus was 138,239 votes
The INSTANT Trump bonus was ZERO votes.

Daily Caller: While these are solely “allegations”, Michigan and Wisconsin election officials refuse to explain Biden’s dramatic vote tally increase that occurred in both states overnight.

Here is the BS obfuscation of Decision Desk HQ
Decision Desk HQ, from which many screenshots of the supposed discrepancy were obtained, claimed that the jump in Michigan was due to a data error.
The entire ballot bump is for Biden, and there is zero bump for Trump?

Here is the BS obfuscation from Michigan election officials:
“It was a simple error from a file created by the state that we ingested. DDHQ does not correct/amend/adjust any state provided file. The state noticed the error and produced an updated count. This happens on election nights and we expect other vote tabulators in MI experienced this error and corrected in real-time as we did,” the company said in a statement, according to Politifact.

Here is USAToday:
The jump in Wisconsin occurred when Milwaukee reported its absentee ballot results, according to USAToday.

a happy little debunker
November 4, 2020 10:58 pm

If he was gonna go after climate cheats – wouldn’t his biggest targets be his EU brethren, his Chinese buddies & those evil Middle East oil producers?

Seems to me he has already promised to go easy on them…

Reply to  a happy little debunker
November 5, 2020 12:14 am

I’m reminded of that old adage about those in opposition to incumbency- Only the impotent are pure!
When in power some placate problems some create their own problems and some have problems thrust upon them methinks. As a far off observer of US politics at present I’ll be somewhat interested to see how the likely new regime cures Covid gets rid of fossil fuels changes the climate creates a UK Health clone and welcomes aboard all those South Americans also wishing to partake of a guaranteed minimum income and a Tesla. Did I get the gist of it right?

Reply to  a happy little debunker
November 5, 2020 7:45 am

What he really means is more carbon taxes and then he will go after tax cheats…so burning wood in your fireplace will be treated the same as waitresses not declaring their tips as income…..that sort of thing….no real climate concern….

Bill Parsons
November 4, 2020 11:12 pm

It’s late-night Wednesday, and already the subjunctive mood in your headline feels outdated: “Biden presidency ‘would’…” Biden needs 6 more electoral votes. Nevada, leaning blue, is six.

Ron Long
Reply to  Bill Parsons
November 5, 2020 1:57 am

Bill Parsons, it’s early morning Thursday and already vote total problems are accumulating. For instance, Wisconsin has an average voter turn-out of 68%, with a record high of 73%. Wisconsin just registered an 89% plus turn-out. This increase is a new state-by-state record doubling the old record. Recount? Lawyers? Delays? Doubts? Michigan is counting absentee ballots without allowing poll-watchers, against their own state law? Why? This is going to drag on a bit. At least Republicans retained the Senate, which is a blocking force.

willem, post
Reply to  Ron Long
November 6, 2020 1:05 am


I watched a Twitter 6-part video on my iPhone, showing a woman talking about three trucks arriving at a polling station in Detroit, Michigan, that delivered more than 138,000 ballots all marked for Biden.

She was talking for about 20 minutes about what she and other people saw.

This is a huge bit of news.
Organized fraud on a large scale, to deprive Trump from being re-elected.
It is just unbelievable
And the same thing happened in Wisconsin!!



5) Here, on TWITTER, is a 6-part video of a poll station worker talking for about 20 minutes
She, and others, saw 3 trucks arrive about 4 AM Wednesday, Nov 3, with more than 130,000 ballots, all filled out for Biden, ready for counting.

Watch all 6 parts to get a DEMOCRACY education

She said: Poll workers were astounded all the ballots were marked for Biden.
None of them had been verified, but were scanned/counted anyway to give Biden a boost.
She said: Poll challengers/poll watchers were barred to observe the counting.

William Haas
November 4, 2020 11:18 pm

The reality is that the climate change that we have been experiencing is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. There is no such thing as a climate cheat.

Reply to  William Haas
November 5, 2020 12:22 am

Oh yes there is, Mann and his hockey stick.

November 4, 2020 11:35 pm

Oh yeah, Joe is gonna make a big example of those recalcitrant Aussies with their 1.5% of the world’s industrial emissions.

Reply to  Mr.
November 5, 2020 1:30 am

Highest per capita emitters on the planet, so recalcitrant is pretty accurate. But yeah I know, what about them Chinese? Indded, indeed, 500 million peasants should be the ones cutting back so us Aussies can keep our pools clean and run our handful of giant tvs and the couple of RVs. Don’t touch me RVs mate, RVs is a human right.

Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 3:17 am

“Highest per capita emitters on the planet” poor petal doesn’t understand vast distances for supplies, electricity etc. 7.7Million sq km. UK 240 thousand sq km.

Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 3:31 am

Qatar is highest at 49 tonnes (t) per person, followed by Trinidad and Tobago (30t); Kuwait (25t); United Arab Emirates (25t); Brunei (24t); Bahrain (23t) and Saudi Arabia (19t). Australia is 17 t so stop lying man. The alarmist per capita mantra is a deception the left use to cover their China sin. When caught out they then hit you with ‘but china is doing more than anyone’. You won’t find our friend agitating for a buoycot of China or protesting outside their embassy. No he wants his neighbors to change their ways instead. What a sharlatin!

Reply to  Warren
November 5, 2020 9:42 pm

You’re correct Warren, Australia is not the the highest per capita emitter, I stand corrected. I will point out that Chins’a is about 8t/ person, half that of Australians.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 10:41 pm

Not that it makes a blind bit of difference given Australia is a massive “carbon” sink.

Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 3:36 am

Try charlatan

Reply to  Warren
November 5, 2020 9:47 pm

No just mistaken. I saw this graph which on closer inspection is both incomplete and out of date. But thanks for the benefit of the doubt.

Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 4:55 am

You are not an Australian , Loy

Its a real pity that Australia has to house worms like you, who HATE their own country.

Its sickening….

Move to North Vietnam, where you belong and would be happy.

You would be a low-end peasant there , just like you are now.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  fred250
November 5, 2020 1:38 pm

Any real patriotic Australian would realise just how much is wrong with the country
and want to change it for the better. It is depressing just how racist and backwards the
country is with its inhumane policy towards refugees for example.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 5, 2020 3:04 pm

OMG, another weepy far-left SJW who HATES his own country

VERY sad. !!


Not only that, you are a PROVEN LIAR

“According to the Refugee Council of Australia, Australia ranked second in 2012 for the resettlement of refugees per capita (0.267 refugees per 1,000 population) beaten only by Canada (0.283 per 1,000). In absolute terms the top three resettlement countries were America (66,300), Canada (9,600) and Australia (5,900).”

And we are still up near the top.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 5, 2020 3:08 pm

Yep, the far-left in Australia seem to be VERY RACIST in everything they do (much like the far-left anywhere else in the world)

ALWAYS wanting to treat people differently because of their race.

You are almost certainly a SJW racist. I bet you HATE white Caucasians.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 5, 2020 10:43 pm

“Izaak Walton November 5, 2020 at 1:38 pm”

Plenty wrong with Australia. Male suicide rate twice that of the annual road toll. And yet we focus on “carbon emissions”.

Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 4:56 am

Poor poor pitiful loy

The VICTIMHOOD and SELF -HATRED just oozes from you, doesn’t it !!

Harry Passfield
Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 6:23 am

That’s an incredibly condescending and borderline racist comment, Loydo: “… what about them Chinese? Indded, indeed, 500 million peasants should be the ones cutting back so us Aussies can keep our pools clean and run our handful of giant tvs and the couple of RVs. Don’t touch me RVs mate, RVs is a human right.”
If you really think that the majority population of China are dirt-poor subsistence farmers you’re about as intelligent as your stupid posts lead us to believe. There are many RVs and SUVs in China, and an awful lot of millionaires.

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 9:58 am

“…[Indeed], indeed, 500 million peasants should be the ones cutting back so us Aussies can keep our pools clean and run our handful of giant tvs and the couple of RVs. Don’t touch me RVs mate, RVs is a human right”.

@Loydo: I seriously wonder sometimes how someone like you can go through life being as hostile toward and contemptuous of humanity and its civilization around you. Do you honestly think you can change the world around you so it conforms to your standards and criteria for acceptance? Do you even think it is even worth it getting out of bed in the morning?

Based on your statement above, it is difficult to say exactly how much you believe you can alter human civilization and human behavior so that they conform to your will. I will suggest however that such an effort will be a largely fruitless exercise in arrogance and egotism. Why? Because people can tend to push back against you when you start believing you can tell them how to live their lives and actually start trying to do so. Do unto others as the Good Book says.

Caring about the planet and its environment is one thing, but your hostility toward others and the world around you is quite something else. I am not saying there is zero justification for it, only that environmentalism needs to be a science rather than the religion it largely is today (or perhaps a mix of the two). A war on humanity itself is far less practical than things like advances in energy generation (i.e. 4th gen nuclear currently undergoing R&D), planting trees, restoring wetlands, eliminating invasive species where they threaten native wildlife and plants, and using genetic engineering to make plants and trees resistant to blights introduced by humans, and helping endangered species of plants and animals to recover (i.e. the American Bald Eagle). Google and read about the genetic engineering that is going on now to restore the American chestnut tree….. and never mind about RVs and TVs.

I could be wrong about this, but you might find that you will receive less hostility here at WUWT if you leave out the eco-religion when discussing issues with the planet, its environment and climate. There is little tolerance for bad science here when it is used to advance causes driven by disputable politics, emotions and eco-religion.

Feel free to condemn me for what I’ve said here Loydo, but I stand by it.

Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 10:01 am

Your brilliance continues to be put on display for all. The Chinese are especially appreciative.

Indded, indeed, 500 million peasants should be the ones cutting back so us Aussies can keep our pools clean . . .

China overtakes US in rankings of world’s richest people:

Don’t touch me RVs mate, RVs is a human right.

“Do you live outside of the United States of America but you still want to purchase a camper from us? That is not a problem! We can help you! If you live in Korea or China we can assist you in purchasing an RV, Travel Trailer, Fifth Wheel, Pop Up, Motor Home, Camper Van, or Truck Camper and getting it to the port!”

“Taking road trips in China or overseas is now in vogue among Chinese consumers, and players in the recreational vehicle market are out to capitalize on the growing trend. Increasing wealth and desire for new travel experiences have boosted the popularity of recreational vehicles (RV) among Chinese consumers.

According to Fang Dehe, the secretary-general of the RV commission under the China Association of Automobile Manufacturers, the consumption of such vehicles in China grew by 100 percent in the first half of this year compared with the same period last year. He expects consumption to hit 1 trillion yuan (151.2 billion US dollars) in the future.”

Reply to  sycomputing
November 5, 2020 11:56 am

There are currently more new cars being sold annually in China (21,100,000) than in either the European Union (14,300,000) or North America (9,200,000)

In Australia 2019 a total of 1,062,867 new vehicles were recorded as sold.

Loy d’oh shows its ignorance and self-loathing, yet again.

No wonder China needs so much COAL. ! 🙂

And any idiot who thinks they are going to stop, needs to get their head examined to see if their brain is larger than a pee.

Reply to  sycomputing
November 5, 2020 1:08 pm
Reply to  fred250
November 5, 2020 3:15 pm

loydo and his pals, each vying for most ignorant.

Reply to  fred250
November 5, 2020 3:49 pm

A contest to the very bottom of their little abyss of knowledge…

….. all gleefully hand in hand.. !

Reply to  fred250
November 6, 2020 1:42 am

“fred250 November 5, 2020 at 3:49 pm
A contest”


Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 4:54 pm

“500 million peasants should be the ones cutting back”

NOBODY should cutting back on their CO2 … there is absolutely NO REASON to.

CO2 is a much needed gas that provides for all life on Earth, and is current at quite low levels

China will continue to strive to bring its population up to and beyond Western living standards.

That means PLENTY of coal will continue to be used for many decades to come.

Reply to  Mr.
November 8, 2020 12:08 pm


November 4, 2020 11:37 pm

China better watch out – Angry Joe is coming for you!

Harry Passfield
Reply to  gowest
November 5, 2020 12:11 pm

Tick VG. Loved it!

November 4, 2020 11:38 pm

Joe’s victory speech –
“Well it’s taken me 47 years to get here.
Where am I again?”

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  Mr.
November 5, 2020 12:56 am

“he’s a real nowhere man, living in his nowhere land, making all his nowhere plans for nobody.”

Reply to  Mr.
November 5, 2020 8:29 am

One-Term-Trumps victory speech –

Sorry… there won’t be one.

November 4, 2020 11:40 pm

“An essay” Eric? lol Perhaps if you were a pre-schooler you’d get away with calling 50 words of cliched babble an essay.

Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 12:07 am

Loydo can’t even count. Some homework for you buddy; watch The Count on Sesame St. and check various definitions of essay.

Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 12:13 am

essay – “a short literary composition on a particular theme or subject, usually in prose and generally analytic, speculative, or interpretative.”

As opposed to your dribble – “To flow or fall in drops or an unsteady stream; trickle”

Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 12:42 am

Now now Loydo. Don’t you have to be busy changing the climate creating all those green jobs and bringing everyone together? Kumbayah in our time?

Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 1:04 am

You are a pre-schooler, and no , loy, you don’t get away with it.

Back to pre-pre-school for you.

Try to get a proper education this time, instead of a brain-washing.

Reply to  Loydo
November 5, 2020 1:34 am

“cliched babble”

The only thing Biden is capable of…. just.. on a good day.. if he is lucky

Rational , original thought… he will have to ask someone else, if he can find a Democrat capable of it.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Loydo
November 6, 2020 1:59 pm

Loydo – do you do anything all day except act like a conceited antagonistic prick?

Rhetorical question.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Loydo
November 6, 2020 2:15 pm

And by the way, Loydo, a two-word by-line is already more independent thought and fortitude that a cowardly little twerp such as yourself will ever be capable of in your entire pathetic life.

November 4, 2020 11:41 pm

I’ve been trying to understand why I feel so depressed, possibly even distressed, by the fact that it looks as though Trump will lose this election. I think it is the realisation that, for all his flaws and undesirable qualities, he was pretty much all that was standing between us and the absurd insanity of these left wing ideologies. Whether it’s life destroying COVID responses, society destroying identity politics, or work destroying climate nonsense, real truth has just lost the battle. The future will a lot worse than one long dark winter.

Reply to  ImranCan
November 5, 2020 12:45 am

Ummmm, this could be the reason…

Carl Friis-Hansen
Reply to  Technetium99
November 5, 2020 2:36 am

This is a “doctored” video. Biden is certainly not my favorite, but publishing “doctored” videos like this without explaining it is a joke, is immature and bad taste.

a happy little debunker
Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
November 5, 2020 3:02 am

It is not a ‘doctored’ video – these words were spoken by Biden (transcript here -

Now you do have an argument that it was taken out of context.

Just like how Biden deliberately took Trump’s comments about ‘very fine people on both sides’ out of context, repeatedly during his campaigning – to paint Trump as a white supremacist.

However none of the regular MSM were prepared to call Joe out on his egregious actions…

Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
November 5, 2020 3:41 am

On the other hand, please explain how anything Biden advocates is mature or in good taste:
* The implementation of a UBI and a minimum wage?
* Implementation of the Green New Deal?
* Banning fracking which accounts for 95% of US petroleum production?
* Reversal of Trump’s tax cuts?
* Packing the courts and adding two Democrat states?
* Open borders, which a Gallup poll indicates would cause an immediate influx of ~750 million people?
* Automatic citizenship for all illegal aliens in the US (estimated at ~30 million).
* Increasing immigration from failed, US-hating states by 700%?
* Tearing down the Southern Border Wall?
* Supporting gun control with the ultimate goal of eliminating the second amendment?
* Eliminating the US constitution?
* Recognition of Iran and reviving the Iran Nuclear Deal?
* Supporting the Paris Climate Accord and all prior trade agreements?
* Boosting taxes by an additional $4 trillion (on top of the $2.7 trillion currently collected)?
* Free health care regardless of national identity?
* Eliminating school choice?
* Defunding the police?
* Locking the country down for 100 days?
* Ignore China’s Globalist ambitions to replace the US as the lone superpower and install the CCP as the global political system?
* Allowing China to take over Taiwan?

Hunter Biden’s computer has been accurately called the “Laptop from Hell” and I submit with grave concern that what Joe Biden advocates is the “Democrat platform from Hell”.

Change my mind, or admit Cloward and Piven are in our immediate future.

Nick Graves
Reply to  ImranCan
November 5, 2020 12:46 am

You’ve summarised my sentiments very aptly, Imran.

Soros is alleged to have said, “the future of the world depends on the outcome of the US election”.

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  ImranCan
November 5, 2020 1:00 am

Not quite. In Congress, the Democrates suffered a resounding defeat. They won’t have a Senate majority, and they lost several places in the House. Much of president Joe Harris’ (just as well to use the symbiotic name right away, Biden can’t think so much by himself anymore) politics will be blocked.

Joel Snider
Reply to  ImranCan
November 6, 2020 2:00 pm

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Well, here’s what the fascists got planned – AOC tweet.

Remember – Loydo like her swag.

November 5, 2020 12:16 am

“Biden as president would pursue climate ‘cheaters’ ”

NASA GISS, NOAA, the IPCC, Mann & all ?

Coeur de Lion
November 5, 2020 12:18 am

It’s carbon dioxide not carbon.

Jean Meeus
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
November 5, 2020 12:50 am


November 5, 2020 12:21 am

The crack of the eco Nazi whip is heard in the Graun. Who’d a thunk it!

November 5, 2020 12:37 am

You notice that the Guardian does not mention China, India, Russia…. etc.

As far as the Guardian is concerned, global warming is driven by the molecules of the emissions of the unrighteous. Up there in Heaven sits a Maxwell Demon. As they come up, he says, you are from China, India … etc, go your way in peace and have no effect on global temperatures.

Molecules from the USA however will be multiplied by the Demon, used to reflect heat back to earth, and will warm the planet. This is why the US has got to get to net-zero by 2030. Or maybe even 2025. Or maybe even sooner.

Now it seems that they have received word of breaking news from the Demon. He is going to include Australian molecules in the tally of the unrighteous. So its very important Australia should be forced to net-zero as soon as possible. Maybe by 2025, or sooner, maybe by 2021?

After all, human civilization is at stake.

We must all hope the Demon doesn’t change his mind about China and start using them to reflect heat. Think of the suffering and injustice if they have to lower their emissions and stop building all those coal generating plants all around the world. When they are installing so much solar and wind, when they are finally catching up with emissions from the West over the past 300 years. That would be terrible!

Jean Meeus
November 5, 2020 12:52 am


Henning Nielsen
November 5, 2020 1:10 am

Hey, what’s to worry about, Guardian? Your chummies in China are boycotting Aussie coal, so the carbon footprint down under will soon enough be nice and light, won’t it?

Joel O’Bryan
November 5, 2020 1:29 am

The Weak Man of the Potomac would/will kowtow to the Chinese. And not just on climate virtue and emissions shackles for the US, but also on Taiwan and Sino dominance of the South China Sea. Taiwan should ready for invasion next year. A President Biden will not send the US 7th Fleet to stop it.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
November 5, 2020 8:31 am

And I would expect that within three days of Biden being sworn in, the ban on Huawei products will be rescinded as the first token of allegiance to his Chinese buddies.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Sean
November 5, 2020 8:02 pm

Any US company executive signing off on putting Huawei electronics in our nation’s 5G infrastructure should be a federal criminal offense, with mandatory minimums of 20 years in prison.

November 5, 2020 1:37 am

If Biden does get in.. Any bet’s on how long he lasts..

…… mental and physically?

Hard to move with a knife in his back, I would imagine.

3 months? 6 months?

Carl Friis-Hansen
Reply to  fred250
November 5, 2020 2:46 am

Then Harris takes over, (sarc-on) what a relief! (sarc-off)

Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
November 5, 2020 4:12 am

Yes, it will be a relief when she becomes Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States of America. [sarc permanent]

Reply to  windlord-sun
November 5, 2020 4:42 am

Ten-hut! , she giggled…

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  windlord-sun
November 5, 2020 7:45 am

So the set up is, the First Woman President isn’t even elected to the position.

Good set up for a dictator that general population disdains. There’s a reason she dropped-out of the nomination race last November… she was widely disliked by even the Black America as they saw her as condescending to them and thus her in-party Democratic fund raising to support her campaign evaporated. With her parents elitists upbringing and French-Canadien teenage years, Harris has zero Black-America inner-city experience . All of which makes her attempts to connect to US Black communities very difficult and why she found it easy to demand harsh drug sentences while she was Cal’s state AG.

She would be an easy target for a Nikki Haley or Kristi Noem in 2024, especially if Dementia Joe and her tank the US economic recovery with harsh anti-fossil fuel regulations that sends energy prices skyrocketing as promised.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 5, 2020 11:26 am

Obama 2 – more wars.
She might even get a Nobel Prize for Peace!

Harry Passfield
Reply to  fred250
November 5, 2020 6:41 am

Yep. Trump is going to drive him mad as he ties him up in the courts. By the time the dust settles Biden will be in no fit state to assume POTUS. Then KH gets her turn. God save the USA then.

Reply to  Harry Passfield
November 5, 2020 12:02 pm

“Biden will be in no fit state to assume POTUS

He isn’t now !!

November 5, 2020 2:32 am

Mail in ballots and ballot harvesting really has changed the dynamics of elections. It causes much higher turnout of people that would normally not vote, or people that don’t even pay attention to politics. Special interest groups go door to door asking people if they have filled out their ballot and will deliver it for them. I’m not sure if this is good or bad for the country but it definitely changes how election turn out will be going forward. I think it creates big opportunity for special interest groups to get someone to vote for a cause where the the person normally would not vote or doesn’t really care. The idea is first get voters registered that are likely to vote for your candidate, then get them the ballots, if legal help them fill it out, then return it for them.

Carl Friis-Hansen
Reply to  Stevek
November 5, 2020 2:58 am


Also, isn’t there an issue with some states not allowing observers to overlook the process of registering the absentees?

And, the state where they added a zero. Okay, the error was correctedbecause it was so obvious, but when the error is smaller, will it be detected without oversight?

Strangely I am beginning to think of global temperature “doctoring.”

Peter Watson
November 5, 2020 2:35 am

The Court battles have just begun. Biden will not be President.

Flight Level
November 5, 2020 2:35 am

Here in Europe, Germany more specifically, we fear a climate themed conflict between Russia and green crazed governance institutions.

Mr. Putin once mentioned the presence of numerous potentially hostile military objects. Some of them quite near where we live.

Bruce Cobb
November 5, 2020 5:26 am

Trump has basically lost, so we might as well get used to that idea. And none of the legal games of Team Trump nor the sore loser whiny crybaby gun-totin’ Trumper protests will change that. As has been pointed out, the Republican majority in the Senate will stand, plus some of the Dem majority in the House has erroded, so whatever grand plans Biden/Harris may have regarding tackling “climate change” will have a tough time getting through. Republicans just need to pull together, and hold the line.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 5, 2020 9:12 am

Unfortunately the Senate Republicans and their erstwhile unwavering support for Trump are the reason the country is beginning to slide down the tubes today. They are all career politicians and they know how it works. We are witnessing the end time of the Republic. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Yirgach
November 5, 2020 2:38 pm

Yes that “erstwhile unwavering support for Trump” that impeached him and fought against him any number of times, including the most recent attempt at COVID assistance.

The Depraved and MOST Deplorable (and still asleep) Vlad the Impaler
November 5, 2020 6:23 am

Copying (cut and paste) from Jo’s website; comment number 53 under the post, “USA 2020: Looks like a coup …”

Begin cut & Paste:

“Here’s something from left field. I give it as read with no confirmation.

I learned today that in the USA state legislatures (the lower house in that state) have plenary power. This means that despite an apparent popular vote, if the state legislatures decide that there is enough evidence that electoral fraud has occurred they can decide to give the electoral college votes to the other candidate, the one who was cheated of the election in that state.

Why am I telling you this? Well the states where there are indications of electoral fraud are notably Wisconsin and Michigan with some evidence in Pennsylvania as well.

I looked into what the lower house mix is in each of those states and this is what I found:

Winsconsin: Republican 63 : Democrat 34

Michigan: Republican 58 : 52

Pennsylvania: Republican 109 : Democrat 93

Of course a decision like that by the lower house can be challenged for its constitutionality and could be overridden by the US Supreme Court.”

End Cut & Paste.

Surely, with the brain power represented here at WUWT, someone can get in contact with the ‘powers-that-be’ and see about making sure this avenue is explored. I’m getting into contact with both US Senators from Wyoming, one a physician, the other a lawyer (and entering into retirement; he was succeeded by Wyoming’s first woman US Senator).

Thanks to any and all who help get the word out, with my best regards,


November 5, 2020 6:38 am

Well some of the biggest “cheats” is the military of the USA and the strategic petroleum reserve.

Surely if Joe could influencing these, these would be the “cheaters” to crack down up.

November 5, 2020 6:40 am

Methuselah asks where Australia is again.

November 5, 2020 7:10 am

Biden and his comrades are gonna be cracking down on alot more than climate cheats — starting with freedom.

November 5, 2020 7:30 am

I think Xi and Putin can start their big push with Harris “in charge.”

Add another fake map with some more ancient dashed lines across Asia, the Pacific, Europe, and Indian Ocean now.

willem post
November 5, 2020 7:33 am



Read on


World energy consumption is projected to increase to 736 quads in 2040 from 575 quads in 2015, an increase of 28%, according to the latest International Energy Outlook 2017 (IEO2017) from the US Energy Information Administration.

Most of this growth is expected to come from countries that are not in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, OECD, and especially from countries where demand is driven by strong economic growth, particularly in Asia.

Non-OECD Asia, which includes China and India, accounted for more than 60% of the world’s total increase in energy consumption from 2015 through 2040.


China, India, and other developing Asian countries, and Africa, and Middle and South America need to use low-cost energy, such as coal, to be competitive.

They would not have signed up for “Paris”, if they had not been allowed to be more or less EXEMPT from the Paris agreements

NOTE: Obama agreed to commit the US to the Paris agreements, i.e., be subject to its financial and other obligations for decades.
However, he never submitted the commitment to the US Senate for ratification, as required by the US Constitution. Trump rescinded the commitment. It became effective 3 years later, one day after the US presidential elections on November 3, 2020.

NOTE: A UN Council would have determined a level of spending, say $500 billion/y, to be allocated by UN bureaucrats, to save the world from climate change. It would have assessed all members, likely in proportion to their GDPs. The non-OECD countries would continue to be more or less exempt from the Paris agreements. The US would have been assessed for more than $150 billion/y!


It is very difficult, and expensive, to reduce world energy consumption, and associated CO2, with a growing world population, that requires a growing world economy to spread increased prosperity to more and more people.

It took 28 years to increase renewables from 7.0% in 1990 to 10.7% in 2018, requiring about $5.6 TRILLION, at an average investment of about $200 billion per year.

It would take 32 years to increase renewables from 10.7% in 2018 to 50% in 2050, requiring at least $49.5 TRILLION, at an average investment of at least $1.5 TRILLION per year

Reply to  willem post
November 5, 2020 8:41 am

“NOTE: Obama agreed to commit the US to the Paris agreements, i.e., be subject to its financial and other obligations for decades.
However, he never submitted the commitment to the US Senate for ratification, as required by the US Constitution. Trump rescinded the commitment. It became effective 3 years later, one day after the US presidential elections on November 3, 2020.”

If Obama never submitted the Paris Agreements to Congress for ratification, then none of its provisions — including the three-year delay on withdrawal — are binding on the US, and all of the theatre about the US withdrawal being effective as of 11/4 is window dressing; the US left the Paris Agreement the moment Trump announced it.

John Endicott
Reply to  Sean
November 5, 2020 9:30 am

the US left the Paris Agreement the moment Trump announced it

Effectively yes. The Paris agreement stopped being followed by the US the minute Obama was out of office, and as it was never ratified by congress there was nothing the Dems/left could do about it.

willem post
Reply to  Sean
November 5, 2020 4:33 pm


NOTE: Obama agreed to commit the US to the Paris agreements, i.e., be subject to its financial and other obligations for decades.
However, he never submitted the commitment to the US Senate for ratification, as required by the US Constitution. Trump rescinded the commitment. It became effective 3 years later, one day after the US presidential elections on November 3, 2020.

NOTE: A UN Council would have determined a level of spending, say $500 billion/y, to be allocated by UN bureaucrats, to save the world from climate change. It would have assessed all members, likely in proportion to their GDPs. The non-OECD countries would continue to be more or less exempt from the Paris agreements. The US would have been assessed for more than $150 billion/y!

Reply to  willem post
November 5, 2020 9:00 am

Does that computation include provision for rebuilding all solar and windmill installations two-and-a-half times over 50 years? They only have a 20-year lifetime. Also, add the expensive and hassle of recycling the useless giant windmill parts and cracked worn solar panels.*

That reality gives “renewable” an entirely different meaning!

Also, how much of the earth’s surface will have to be covered by these things to power 50% of a world of 8-10 billion people.

*P.S. each windmill and solar ‘farm’ [dripping with sarcasm] requires a battery installation. Elon Musk will supply those. Add the cost of these, and for “renewing” these, to the overall budget. What’s the total now?

willem post
Reply to  windlord-sun
November 5, 2020 4:30 pm

Those are good points, which I will add to my article


willem post
Reply to  willem post
November 5, 2020 5:02 pm

Here is the revision:

The above world and US capital costs do not include:

1) The cost of financing
2) The capital cost to replace short-life systems, such as heat pumps, EVs, batteries, etc.
3) Recycling the wind turbines, and solar panels and EV batteries
4) The cost to the earth’s surface covered by all these things to provide 50% of world total energy consumption by renewables, for 10 billion people, in 2050.

Each wind turbine system and solar system would require a battery installation. Elon Musk would supply those?
Also, as more and more quads are added to prior levels, adding quads becomes more difficult, and expensive.

NOTE: World renewable energy spending was more than $2.5 TRILLION for 2010-2019, an average of $250 billion/y
World RE spending was about $282.2 billion in 2019.
I assumed it was 280 billion in 2020, i.e., less due to COVID

Tom Abbott
November 5, 2020 11:20 am

From the article: “Second time in a week the Guardian has called on Biden to bully Australia on climate policy.”

Australia’s CO2 emissions are like a fly on an elephant, in comparison to other nations emission levels. Biden should leave Australia alone.

Now, if Biden wants to show he is serious about reducing CO2 emissions he should take the Chicoms to task and insist they reduce their emissions now, not starting in 2030, and Biden should threaten economic sanctions on the Chicoms if they don’t comply.

You think that would ever happen? No, that’s not going to happen. The Chicom’s would theaten to blackmail Biden over his previous corrupt money deals with Chinese businesses/military, if he tried to pressure them on anything. The Chicoms will get a pass on everything from Biden.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 5, 2020 11:30 am

Biden’s specialty is Ukraine, ask Hunter, and likely war with Russia.
Not a nice thought for those central Europeans playing Navalny-roulette – beef in the sandwich, yet again. As Lavrov (I think) said, roulette with all chambers full.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
November 6, 2020 4:28 am

Biden isn’t going to war with Russia. The only war he wants to wage is on American conservatives and conservatism.

November 5, 2020 12:00 pm

If Guardian says it… definitely that is an illusion… a very poisonous illusion.

Let me be in the record again here… very easy to be confirmed… as it will not take decades or centuries as in the case of insanity of “climate change”, or months at most in the insanity of “covid-19”.
It is simply mater of days most few weeks.

There is no chance in hell or earth that a democratic candidate ends up to win the 2020 presidential USA election… neither Bi{nla}den or foolish Kamula will make it.

Ok… fair enough… only days till end result there.

Again, simply put, no any chance in hell or earth… easy to check out in few days or most few weeks.


Jeffery P
November 5, 2020 12:10 pm

Wishful thinking. No reason to believe Lyin’ Joe will do anything than fumble some speeches and glad-hand everybody.

Before Trump, nobody made Nato members live up to their obligations. After Trump, things go back to “normal” and the USA gets played by everyone.

Reply to  Jeffery P
November 5, 2020 1:38 pm

It would be totally hilarious watching dementia Joe trying to meet with Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping. 🙂

And the thought him cowering at the feet of Mercel and the macaroon, is truly delightful.

Reply to  Jeffery P
November 5, 2020 1:43 pm

“the USA gets played by everyone”

Even Maduro in Venezuela must be licking his lips at the prospect.

Come join us, he says. !

November 5, 2020 2:48 pm

How can Biden “crack down on cheats” when he himself is the world’s biggest cheat – a reputation he has built-up over several shameful decades.

November 5, 2020 3:30 pm

Biden’s international forte is grift and graft with bribery as his fallback.
Not that Biden is allowed to walk outside his home anymore due to senility.

Harris has zero diplomatic skill and an absolute lack of understanding on all things financial.
At best, Harris will follow cankles method of diplomacy by handing out billions of dollars for nebulous promises. Just as cankles did in Copenhagen for the flimsiest of climate promises..

Neither candidate has a history of holding large countries accountable. Biden has some history holding weaker/smaller countries accountable.
It’s called bullying. And Biden expects big cash amounts from those he bullies. Though, Biden did learn to hand over large amounts of money to people of which he is frightened, Iran, Russia, China…

It’s far better to hope that President Trump gets the voting fraud cleared up by SCOTUS.

November 6, 2020 10:27 am

Crack down? You mean like China is doing to Australia as we speak.

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