UK & German Governments Plan to Turn Covid-19 into a Climate Action Opportunity

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Even after personally recovering from Covid-19, UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson and his government considers climate action such a priority, they are jointly hosting a high level climate summit with Germany to try to divert recovery money into renewable energy.

Coronavirus recovery plan ‘must tackle climate change’

By Roger HarrabinBBC environment analyst
25 April 2020

Environment ministers from 30 countries are meeting in a two-day online conference in a bid to make progress on cutting greenhouse gas emissions. 

The gathering is called the “Petersberg Climate Dialogue”.

It will focus on how to organise a “green” economic recovery after the acute phase of the pandemic is over.

The other aim is to forge international agreement on ambitious carbon cuts despite the postponement of the key conference COP26 – previously scheduled for Glasgow in November (now without a date). 

Alok Sharma, the UK Climate Secretary and president of COP26, said: “I am committed to increasing global climate ambition so that we deliver on the Paris Agreement (to stabilise temperature rise well below 2C). 

“The world must work together, as it has to deal with the coronavirus pandemic, to support a green and resilient recovery, which leaves no one behind. 

“At the Petersberg Climate Dialogue, we will come together to discuss how we can turn ambition into real action.”

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-52418624

The Petersberg Climate Dialogue is an annual meeting of government ministers, normally held in person, but this year’s event will be an online meeting on the 27-28th April. Ministers from 30 governments are expected to attend this year’s online event.

What can I say? Not only did the Boris Johnson government totally mess up their initial UK Coronavirus response by callously embracing enhanced death rates as the price of “herd immunity”, before pulling back in panic when the scale of their blunder became obvious, his government now plans to squander money raised to help people who suffered economic hardship on useless green energy investments, and even worse intends to encourage other governments to do the same.

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April 25, 2020 6:12 pm

“The world must work together, as it has to deal with the coronavirus pandemic, to support a green and resilient recovery, which leaves no one behind.

If even one person is ‘left behind’, whatever that means, then sue the pants off of them.

They have no intention of not leaving one person behind as most of the world is already behind them in energy availability and opportunities for enhancing their lives.

Empty, grandiose words from the ‘elites’ who will not be affected by the changes they are proposing to inflict on the rest of us.

Greg
Reply to  John in Oz
April 25, 2020 10:25 pm

The UK now has twice the number of fatalities every day than France , Spain or Italy. Hospitals are STILL running out of basic supplies and tests. Many 3rd world countries seem to be handling this better.

It would make more sense for them to pullout of this meeting altogether and say, sorry we have a REAL crisis to deal with right now. Call us later.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Greg
April 25, 2020 11:27 pm

And now, in classic “lock the stable door after the horse has bolted” mode, the UK is asking new arrivals to quarantine for 2 weeks. Asking, mind, not forcing.

In Oz we forced this weeks ago. I assume that once the UK realises that most people won’t, they will start forcing them, long after that particular horse has bolted…

Technetium99
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
April 26, 2020 12:45 am

I agree, looks like Boris suffered some brain-damage while recovering from COVID19…

george Tetley
Reply to  Technetium99
April 26, 2020 1:31 am

Tech….99
Boris ! What brain??????

patrick healy
Reply to  Technetium99
April 27, 2020 5:32 am

Whether to call him Al Johnson (with or without the black boot polish) or his real name of Boris Corbyn I cannot decide. Either way he is a born again Marxist.

WillK
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
April 26, 2020 2:57 am

Not much good that did us. 2 weeks in quarantine yet no testing or observations from doctors. Just a simple online questionnaire with 6 questions.

You do realise that the quarantine implemented was just an exercise to keep the major hotels in business?

cedarhill
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
April 26, 2020 3:42 am

And you can add the solution to the CV-19 virus by these same set of experts has been to burn the barn down.

Greg
Reply to  cedarhill
April 26, 2020 4:30 am

cedarhill , no the plan is to burn down the entire farm and set fire to the crops so that we don’t have anything to eat this winter.

They are now planning to introduce contact tracing for confirmed cases !!

S.Korea managed to make that work by jumping on it early, the idea of doing the same thing at this point in the epidemic is beyond deluded. The only reason I can see for do so at this stage is a massive population control and monitoring exercise disguised as COVID control .

Greg
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
April 26, 2020 4:35 am

“lock the stable door after the horse has bolted” mode

The horse has not only bolted, it has dies of old age by now!

Reply to  Greg
April 25, 2020 11:54 pm

The Covid-19 death spike in Europe varies from ~non-existent in many countries to large in England. Why the difference?

Is it lockdown? Probably not – Sweden is only doing partial containment vs the full lockdown in England, and has a lower per capita Covid-19 death peak.

Is it population density? This possibly has an impact regarding rate of contagion.

Is it mismanagement of contagion among the elderly? This could be a major factor.

Dr. Malcolm McKendrick, a Scottish physician, recently wrote:
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/04/21/the-anti-lockdown-strategy/

“Unfortunately, it seems that COVID-19 has infected everyone involved in healthcare management and turned their brains into useless mush.

[In my view, if we had any sense, we would lockdown/protect the elderly, and let everyone else get on with their lives].

However, the hospitals themselves have another policy. Which is to discharge the elderly unwell patients with COVID directly back into the community, and care homes. Where they can spread the virus widely amongst the most vulnerable.

This, believe it or not, is NHS policy. Still.”
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Europe – Total Mortality Data:
https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/

auto
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
April 26, 2020 12:25 pm

Well, The pension age has not been increased – as folk have objected – as much as had been hoped [by our lovable elites?) – so anything which, purely coincidentally, manages to reduce the number of pensioners cannot be a bad thing.
OOOps

Auto

RockyRoad
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
April 26, 2020 1:55 pm

…it is political mush their brains have been turned into!

Once that happens, no recovery is possible! The policy impact can be devastating, too!

Martin A
Reply to  Greg
April 26, 2020 12:34 am

Also, the deaths per day rate and the new cases per day are both decreasing in France. In the UK they both remain static, other than day to day fluctuations.

richard
Reply to  Greg
April 26, 2020 12:49 am

if you believe the numbers.

Gerry, England
Reply to  Greg
April 26, 2020 5:39 am

The UK has no plan for this pandemic and has been using the only plan it has which is for an influenza epidemic. The realisation is only just coming that they have been dealing with the wrong disease so there is a way to go before they can come up with a new plan. And we have them making mistakes at every turn. The top NHS bod – Half Whitty is pleased the temporary Nightingale hospitals are empty. That is because this fool considers them to be overflow space. But the experience from China was very clear that they should be virus isolation hospitals in order to keep the virus away from the vulnerable sick people in hospitals. The real UK death toll inflicted by what I have seem called the National Homicide Service could be 40000 given all the knock on effects of the mismanagement of the crisis.

Reply to  Gerry, England
April 26, 2020 6:28 am

I wonder if “herd immunity” is much greater than current estimates – and in the general population, not just in prisons. Time to end the lockdown?

Note that total mortality has peaked and is decreasing in European countries. The peak In European deaths occurred in week 14 (week starting 30Mar2020), and was strongly concentrated in over-65’s. Many European countries show NO recent peak in total mortality, which reflects much better protection of the elderly.
Ref. https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/

The exception is England, where they return infected seniors to their retirement homes to wipe out the rest of the population.
Ref. https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/04/21/the-anti-lockdown-strategy/

https://qz.com/1841445/covid-19-may-be-undercounted-50-fold-in-la-antibody-surveys-show/
[excerpt]
In a press conference, Barbara Ferrer, director of the LA County Department of Public Health, said that based on the survey’s prevalence estimate, the county’s [Covid-19} mortality rate is between 0.1 and 0.2%, rather than above 4% as reflected by the official caseload. The Santa Clara survey also estimated a mortality rate between 0.1 and 0.2%.

Data from USA prisons shows that most of the prison population was infected, and ~96% were asymptomatic.

Ohio – 2028/2500 = 81% of total population infected
They started with the Marion Correctional Institution, which houses 2,500 prisoners in north central Ohio, many of them older with pre-existing health conditions. After testing 2,300 inmates for the coronavirus, they were shocked. Of the 2,028 who tested positive, close to 95% had no symptoms.

4 states – 3277/4693 = 70% of total population infected
As mass coronavirus testing expands in prisons, large numbers of inmates are showing no symptoms. In four state prison systems — Arkansas, North Carolina, Ohio and Virginia — 96% of 3,277 inmates who tested positive for the coronavirus were asymptomatic, according to interviews with officials and records reviewed by Reuters. That’s out of 4,693 tests that included results on symptoms.
Ref. In four U.S. state prisons, nearly 3,300 inmates test positive for coronavirus – 96% without symptoms

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
April 26, 2020 7:12 am
Reply to  Gerry, England
April 26, 2020 8:50 am

IT’S TIME’: GRASSROOTS CAMPAIGN CALLS ON GOVERNORS TO REOPEN THE COUNTRY
https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/25/heritage-governors-economy-reopen-coronavirus/
“One of the leading conservative think tanks in the country is launching a campaign to push governors to phase out their coronavirus-related stay-at-home orders and allow the U.S. to open back up.”
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I say “RE-OPEN BY MAY DAY – 1MAY2020” – and don’t over-regulate it – let individuals and businesses manage themselves and their risks – people are typically far more intelligent than governments.

Better still, we should have followed the Swedish model and never shut down the economy, which harmed so many young people. We have over-protected the huge low-risk majority from a virus that typically does not harm them, and under-protected the high-risk elderly and infirm. Hospitals have canceled elective surgeries and waiting lists have ballooned. What a mis-managed debacle! Told you so in mid-March 2020. I wrote then:

“This full-lockdown scenario is especially hurting service sector businesses and their minimum-wage employees – young people are telling me they are “financially under the bus”. The young are being destroyed to protect us over-65’s. A far better solution is to get them back to work and let us oldies keep our distance, and get “herd immunity” established ASAP – in months not years. Then we will all be safe again.”

pochas94
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
April 26, 2020 2:34 pm

On Sunday the sorely vexed California surfers staged a major protest because their beaches would not open until Monday. Many arrests were made.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
April 26, 2020 3:59 pm

END THE COVID-19 LOCK-DOWN ON MAY 1, 2020!

Told you so ~5 weeks ago – at the beginning of the Covid-19 lock-down I said it was a mistake.
“Like swatting a fly on a glass table – with a sledgehammer!”

THE BEARER OF GOOD CORONAVIRUS NEWS
Stanford scientist John Ioannidis finds himself under attack for questioning the prevailing wisdom about lockdowns.
By Allysia Finley, Wall Street Journal
Updated April 24, 2020 5:14 pm ET
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-bearer-of-good-coronavirus-news-11587746176

Stanford scientist John Ioannidis finds himself under attack for questioning the prevailing wisdom about lockdowns.

Defenders of coronavirus lockdown mandates keep talking about science. “We are going to do the right thing, not judge by politics, not judge by protests, but by science,” California’s Gov. Gavin Newsom said this week. Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer defended an order that, among other things, banned the sale of paint and vegetable seeds but not liquor or lottery tickets. “Each action has been informed by the best science and epidemiology counsel there is,” she wrote in an op-ed.

But scientists are almost never unanimous, and many appeals to “science” are transparently political or ideological. Consider the story of John Ioannidis, a professor at Stanford’s School of Medicine. His expertise is wide-ranging—he juggles appointments in statistics, biomedical data, prevention research and health research and policy.

Google Scholar ranks him among the world’s 100 most-cited scientists. He has published more than 1,000 papers, many of them meta-analyses—reviews of other studies. Yet he’s now found himself pilloried because he dissents from the theories behind the lockdowns—because he’s looked at the data and found good news.

In a March article for Stat News, Dr. Ioannidis argued that Covid-19 is far less deadly than modelers were assuming. He considered the experience of the Diamond Princess cruise ship, which was quarantined Feb. 4 in Japan. Nine of 700 infected passengers and crew died. Based on the demographics of the ship’s population, Dr. Ioannidis estimated that the U.S. fatality rate could be as low as 0.025% to 0.625% and put the upper bound at 0.05% to 1%—comparable to that of seasonal flu.

Full article at https://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2020/04/25/the-bearer-of-good-coronavirus-news-by-allysia-finley/

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
May 4, 2020 7:53 pm

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/04/30/ministerial-math-scientific-skepticism-and-the-chinese-virus/#comment-2982536

I called it – to the day! Alberta will re-open starting 1May2020, as I posted here last weekend.

But did they listen to me about “don’t over-regulate it”? Nooo!

It’s hard to get good help these days. 🙂

Reply to  John in Oz
April 25, 2020 11:19 pm

GREEN ENERGY FOR DUMMIES (BoJo, Macron, Merkel et al)
WIND AND SOLAR ENERGY BOTH FAIL due to INTERMITTENCY and DIFFUSIVITY.

INTERMITTENCY means the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow 24/7, and the electric grid needs reliable dispatchable generation, not generation that goes up and down uncontrollably. Battery storage is touted by warmists as the solution, but it does not economically exist at grid-scale – they might as well rely on unicorns to solve the intermittency problem.

DIFFUSIVITY means it takes far too much land area to replace conventional energy with wind and/or solar generation –it would take fully ~10% of all the land area in Britain to do so. In the USA, 10% would total about 300,000 square miles, or all of Connecticut, Delaware, Indiana, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia.

Energy experts have known these facts since ~forever – my co-authors and I published them in 2002 – but a leftist lie goes around the world ten times before the truth gets its boots on.

Regards, Allan

Luke
Reply to  John in Oz
April 26, 2020 4:26 am

They didn’t try to hide their priorities like Democrats here do before they try to sneak back into power. Their number one priority ISN’T making 30 million new jobs for the people who’s jobs that they destroyed because of a media (party) and Wall Street (don’t ever bail them out again) driven panic. These people really are not bright. Have they seen any of the protests? It’s like 2010 all over again. People are going to connect greens with mass unemployment after this, at least the people who haven’t been able to spend the last month in a long stupor-filled work-at-home staycation. The professional managerial class has made a huge miscalculation here ruining the livelihoods of 30 million normal working Americans.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  John in Oz
April 26, 2020 8:53 am

How are the property values in UK now?

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Rocketscientist
April 26, 2020 2:08 pm

We had a recent valuation done and it was 80% of the amount that had been offered a couple of years ago (folks decided not to sell). I’m not sure what most valuations are like compared to sale price.

April 25, 2020 6:13 pm

Was it climate change or Covid 19 that made his hair stand up?

Greg
Reply to  Tomas
April 25, 2020 10:29 pm

BoJo is still in hiding. Taking extended convalescence at his official retreat at Chequers Court to avoid facing the country on this fiasco.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Greg
April 25, 2020 11:28 pm

Back on Monday, apparently.

April 25, 2020 6:13 pm

People like Boris Johnson who make large mistakes through lack of imagination are well-positioned like Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron to carry on after the Covid-19 panic to make even more big mistakes in the field of Climate Alarmism.
The Boris Johnson government messed up the UK Coronavirus initiative by embracing herd immunity as a death trade-off and then panicked when the scale of the result became obvious and was ably assisted in the disaster by the detrimental effects of the British NHS. Boris will now squander even more money which was supposed to assist people in economic hardship on useless ‘renewable’ unusable green energy boondoggles. Boris is even egging his former EU mates to do the same. This probably originates in Boris’ girlfriend’s nagging.

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
April 25, 2020 8:19 pm

IT’S ALL OVER FOR EUROPE’S GREEN DEAL AS ANGELA MERKEL’S MEPS SAY ‘IT’S NO LONGER VIABLE’
Focus Magazin, 24 April 2020
https://www.thegwpf.com/its-all-over-for-eu-green-deal-as-angela-merkels-meps-say-its-no-longer-viable/

Berlin. Opposition to the EU’s Green Deal promoted by EU Commission leader Ursula von der Leyen is growing among Angela Merkel’s CDU/CSU MEPs in the European Parliament.

Markus Pieper is the leader of Germany’s Christian Democratic CDU/CSU parliamentary party in the European Parliament

The leader of the Parliamentary Party Markus Pieper told news magazine FOCUS:

“The Green Deal was a gigantic challenge for an economy in top shape. After the corona bloodletting, it is simply not financially viable.”

Pieper suggests, among other things, to expand trading in CO2 to electric cars and building renovations instead of fixed CO2 quotas. “Then the market regulates the progress in climate protection according to supply and demand via a price mechanism,” Pieper told FOCUS.

Pieper also called for energy policy to be the “core concern of EU foreign policy” in order to import more electricity from renewable energy from Africa and the Middle East.

The Federal Government also warned that the current carbon price of ten euros per tonne of CO2 should be maintained and the decision by the Federal Council on a higher carbon price should be rejected.

Full story (in German)

April 25, 2020 6:15 pm

Make them watch the Michael Moore movie.

Reply to  Jon P Peterson
April 25, 2020 8:10 pm

Mike Moore finally gets it right… and gets cancelled by the extreme left. Who is the distributor who censored Mike’s latest film?

I have two engineering degrees and a career in energy. I will compare my energy achievements with anyone on the planet, and I say Mike Moore is essentially correct in this film.

A GREEN ENERGY PRIMER – WIND AND SOLAR ENERGY BOTH FAIL DUE TO 1) INTERMITTENCY AND 2) DIFFUSIVITY.

1) Intermittency means the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow 24/7, and the electric grid needs reliable dispatchable generation, not generation that goes up and down uncontrollably. Battery storage is touted by warmists as the solution, but it does not economically exist at grid-scale – they might as well rely on unicorns to solve the intermittency problem.

2) Diffusivity means it takes far too much land area to replace conventional energy with wind and/or solar generation –it would take fully ~10% of all the land area in Britain to do so. In the USA, this 10% would total about 300,000 square miles, or all of Connecticut, Delaware, Indiana, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia.

Energy experts have known these facts since ~forever – my co-authors and I published them in 2002 – but a leftist lie goes around the world ten times before the truth gets its boots on.

Regards, Allan
____________________

DISTRIBUTOR PULLS MICHAEL MOORE’S NEW FILM OVER MISINFORMATION ALLEGATIONS
April 25, 2020
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/04/25/distributor-pulls-michael-moores-new-film-over-misinformation-allegations-913149

[excerpt]

Left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore has had his latest film taken down by the distributor over allegations of misinformation.

Coinciding with the celebration of Earth Day, Moore’s film, “Planet of the Humans,” was released this week on YouTube for free, and addressed green energy sources and other issues in the environmental movement.

But Oscar-nominated director and filmmaker Josh Fox launched a campaign against the film, asking people to sign a letter “demanding an apology and an immediate retraction by the [film’s] producers, director and other advocates.”

The distributor agreed to pull it on Friday after reportedly not having seen the finished product before release.

Ironically, the attacks on Moore for the film came from left-wing climate activists who took issue with his portrayal of green energy. The film essentially trashed the idea of wind power, solar power and electric vehicles, among other things, arguing that many of the sources of renewable energy are actually quite damaging to the environment.

Kenji
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
April 25, 2020 8:55 pm

Thank you for teaching me the “scientific”(?) word … diffusivity. For something which is patently apparent to the naked eye … the utter landscape blighting caused by wind and solar energy is disgusting. A complete WASTE. Costing our culture valuable natural resources and money. This “renewable” energy charade has GOT to stop.

Roger Knights
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
April 26, 2020 3:59 am

There are unfortunately at least a couple of exaggerated claims in Moore’s movie. (E.g., how much land a solar farm would need to deliver a certain amount of energy. I forget the other one.) He should have have been self-critical and toned them down, to forestall counterpunches. What he should do now is issue a revised version.

John Endicott
Reply to  Roger Knights
April 29, 2020 8:38 am

Only a couple, he must have upped his game then, usually it’s more than just two!

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
April 26, 2020 5:01 am

This is the distributor who cancelled Mike Moore’s latest film – and then reversed and decided to not do so after all. Much ado about nothing.

FILMS FOR ACTION’S STATEMENT ON PLANET OF THE HUMANS
Why we took it down. Why we ultimately decided to put it back up (including this note). Plus our critiques and thoughts on the film.
By Films For Action / filmsforaction.org / Apr 25, 2020
https://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/films-for-actions-statement-on-planet-of-the-humans/#.XqS8nYXbsD4.twitter

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
April 26, 2020 5:06 am

“Left-wing filmmaker Michael Moore has had his latest film taken down by the distributor over allegations of misinformation.”

It looks like Michael Moore should do another documentary exposing Leftwing Censorship.

Sommer
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
April 26, 2020 6:10 am

Let the public debate over the information exposed on large scale renewables begin. This debate is long overdue.
In Canada, CBC has refused to touch the subject. CANWEA needs to be held accountable.
NAPAW is one of the only sources of the truth.

Reply to  Jon P Peterson
April 26, 2020 1:28 pm

This is why they should watch the Michael Moore movie:

“Prime Minister Boris Johnson and his government considers climate action such a priority, they are jointly hosting a high level climate summit with Germany “TO TRY TO DIVERT RECOVERY MONEY INTO RENEWABLE ENERGY”

– JPP

Sweet Old Bob
April 25, 2020 6:16 pm

Stupid is, as Stupid does ….
more yellow vests to come ?

April 25, 2020 6:19 pm

Have you seen Michael Moors movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE
How about: https://www.manhattan-institute.org/green-energy-revolution-near-impossible

This whole Zero emission solar and wind has a long way to go to prove itself to really be Zero Emissions.
There are a lot of questions to be answered. America is blessed that we do have fossil fuels to supply our needs 24/7 and with a bit of new technology their CO2 emissions can be near Zero. Even coal has a Clean Coal Solution that will make it emit less CO2 than a natural gas power plant. And it’s affordable.

MarkW
Reply to  Sid Abma
April 25, 2020 7:05 pm

Waste energy and money in order to get rid of a gas that is completely beneficial.
It’s no wonder that you have to troll places like WUWT for investors, since you haven’t been able to find any investors elsewhere.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
April 25, 2020 8:09 pm

“completely beneficial?”
Mmm ….I think you need to do some reading.

Reply to  Simon
April 25, 2020 8:52 pm

“Simon April 25, 2020 at 8:09 pm”

Reading?
You’ve failed repeatedly with your links that do not state what you claim they state.
A thing displaying total lack of reading comprehension

fred250
Reply to  Simon
April 25, 2020 8:55 pm

Come on Simon, please explain how atmospheric CO2 at any reachable level, is in any way NOT completely beneficial.

Produce empirical scientific evidence to back your non-science nonsense.

Greg
Reply to  Simon
April 25, 2020 10:56 pm

Mmm ….I think you need to do some reading.

Wow, that amazing argument can be applies to anybody anywhere any time about any issue !

That’s such a convincing show-stopper of an argument, I’m going to use it on everyone from now on and I’ll always be right !

Thank you so much but I think you need to do some reading.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
April 26, 2020 12:16 pm

Simon, I have been doing reading. There are no known negative impacts to more CO2 in the atmosphere.
Severe weather hasn’t increased, no matter how much the models say it’s going to some day.
Even if arctic ice were melting, that’s good news as it makes shipping cheaper and gives us more access to the resources up there.
The few tenths of a degree warming that CO2 might be causing is 100% beneficial.
More CO2 also makes plants grow bigger and use less water.

There is nothing not to like.

John Endicott
Reply to  Simon
April 29, 2020 8:44 am

Mmm ….I think you need to do some reading.

Simon, that might be a convincing statement to make, if it was delivered by someone who has ever exhibited the ability to comprehend what they’ve read. Coming from someone with a history of posting links that do not say what they claim they say, such as yourself, all it accomplishes is to give the rest of a chance to laugh at how self-unaware you are.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Sid Abma
April 25, 2020 9:55 pm

Sid, you’re about 10 articles behind. Go find one of those threads.

4 Eyes
April 25, 2020 6:22 pm

Having been almost taken out by a serious worldwide problem Boris will have added incentive to address what he sees is a big worldwide problem. This emotional response will be seen everywhere – humankind has survived Covid, just, so we must act on climate change even quicker than we were. Rational thought will go out the window and I suspect some really stupid illogical decisions will be made in next couple of years.

Tom Abbott
April 25, 2020 6:23 pm

From the article: “The world must work together, as it has to deal with the coronavirus pandemic”

Wait a minute! The world is *not* working together on the coronavirus pandemic. There is a holdout, not cooperating, by the name of China.

Latitude
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 25, 2020 6:45 pm

we have a winner

Bryan A
Reply to  Latitude
April 25, 2020 8:04 pm

Same for CO2 reduction requirements also

Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 25, 2020 6:48 pm

Thank you very much. Y’on y’own Goodnight..

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 25, 2020 7:06 pm

Last time I checked, China is also a serious hold out when it comes to actually doing anything regarding how much CO2 it produces. (Not that this one at least is a bad thing.)

Zigmaster
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 25, 2020 7:10 pm

China, who happens to be the biggest emitter of CO2 in the world and likely to become even bigger after corona virus as it tries to get its economic growth going again.

gbaikie
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 25, 2020 7:29 pm

” There is a holdout, not cooperating, by the name of China.”

Maybe we should not belittle these political weasels, the “Climate Action Opportunity” could include not buying anything related to “Climate Action” from China?

Probably these corrupt and evil leaders, will want increase the stuff they buy from China, but considering the current “political climate”, it’s slightly possible that they might want to go in a new direction.

Roger Knights
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 26, 2020 4:05 am

“There is a holdout, not cooperating, by the name of China.”

And India, Japan, the Phillipines, Pakistan, Turkey, Russia (30% increase in CO2 planned, IIRC), Brazil, et al..

Latitude
April 25, 2020 6:27 pm

never let a crisis go to waste

April 25, 2020 6:45 pm

Just exactly when are we supposed to see the catastrophe coming from climate ”change”?
I’ve been waiting about 30 years now. Is coming in the future sometime?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Mike
April 27, 2020 4:43 am

“Just exactly when are we supposed to see the catastrophe coming from climate ”change”?”

It’s not coming, assuming you are referring to Human-Caused Climate Change.. There is no evidence showing humans are causing the climate to change. There hasn’t been any evidence for this for about 50 years (that includes the Human-Caused Global Cooling narrative that didn’t pan out).

Steven Mosher
April 25, 2020 7:02 pm

Derg
Reply to  Steven Mosher
April 25, 2020 7:17 pm

Never trust the Communist Chinese.

Never

Bill Parsons
Reply to  Steven Mosher
April 25, 2020 10:48 pm

Smart guy. Thanks for the post.

tsk tsk
April 25, 2020 7:08 pm

Guess AirStrip One was sinkable after all.

Steven Mosher
April 25, 2020 7:22 pm

two years
ago

April 25, 2020 7:32 pm

I foresee a minor hitch in this agenda: it’s predicated on fulminant science-denihilism, like most ideas that pop into the skulls of our opponents.

You can fight global warming, or you can fight SARS-CoV-2 particles, but you can’t do both.

I tried to get this dead-simple grade-school fact through to Bob Ward, glabrous guard-poodle of the politics of misanthropy, with all the success you’d expect. The ‘belligerent ignorance’ is strong with the anti-science crowd.

https://twitter.com/BradPKeyes/status/1254034761321861120

nc
April 25, 2020 7:44 pm

I have read that having and surviving chicom flu can have mental repercussions. Are we seeing that in Boris? Maybe he is no longer fit to be prime minister? That would be sad seeing he lead Britain out of the EU.

April 25, 2020 7:48 pm

These guys definitely need to wear masks — the sort of masks that train robbers wear in classic American wild-west motion pictures.

XYZ
April 25, 2020 8:10 pm

Now is excellent momentum to address climate change. People are already scared, oppressed and resigned. This mental atmosphere can be put in some good use.
We are looking three years of hardship to recover from Corona. It means more taxes. To raise taxes, we need very generic and vague reasons – like climate change. Saying “we need to raise taxes to pay our new dept for China” is not a good strategy and could result more letters from Peking.
No. What we need is more fear mongering and oppression than ever before. We need pathos of virtue signaling to inflict feelings of inadequacy to boost job performance, and to justify higher taxes.

Flight Level
April 25, 2020 8:27 pm

Which is why they better keep closed coffee places and other “StammTisch” (traditional meeting-point pubs) where people meet and talk .

Because happens, Germany is already rumbling.

And those political beasts, surfing on a wave of performant healthcare and safe transportation come to precisely criticize and destroy what kept them alive.

That goes far beyond spiting in the soup. It’s an opportunistic qualified looting of a disaster.

We swiftly moved that many tons of relief cargo, went to ungodly places in ungodly circumstances to take our people back, ran medevacs, risked to be quarantined in the process and now that’s how they thank the entire industry, threatening to further shut us completely down?

Boris, what the hell could explain your total lack of gratitude ? One too many over your prescription drugs ?

No, we are not bad guys, however, in case you further loose your bearing, avoid wandering in hangars on any place where MagLights or torque wrenches are in use.

It won’t happen. We have all endured a free sample of communism, no freedom, no transport, total control.

Unless you have a thing for nurses an intubation, you’d better stay home Boris, our hospitals are not half-full, take my word.

noaaprogrammer
April 25, 2020 8:40 pm

After the Corona Virus PanPanic dies, we need another foil — something ‘scary’ that will keep the media from going back to capitalizing on CAGW craziness. Say, didn’t I hear that there was a big asteroid headed our way?

Tom in Florida
Reply to  noaaprogrammer
April 26, 2020 5:38 am

Apophis, with a 2036 rendezvous.
“For now I smell the rain,
And with it pain,
And it’s headed my way”

Chris Hanley
April 25, 2020 8:50 pm

“Coronavirus recovery plan ‘must tackle climate change’ “.

In their terms there is no reason to do anything other than maintain the current lock-downs permanently and enforce them as and when necessary — ultimately by men with g-u-n-s.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  Chris Hanley
April 25, 2020 9:19 pm

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John Robertson
April 25, 2020 8:54 pm

Well signing your country over to Gang Green policies is one sure way to avoid economic recovery.
When their economies fail,these Dear Leaders can offer up”We were saving the world” as their excuses for crushing the few businesses that survived their Wuhan Flue remedy.
Makes one wonder if “recovery” is even part of this pandemic plan.?

April 25, 2020 10:17 pm

What Alok Sharma says and what Boris does are not necessarily the same.
And what Roger Harrabin of the Boy Buggering Communists says Alok Sharma is going to do is another thing again.
It’s crunch time for global warming. Renewable energy is a bust and even Merkel is beginning to realise it. They have had their fun and made their profits, and the world hasn’t got any warmer really. And now we really cannot afford the luxury of slinging trillions into a solution that doesn’t actually work, to a problem that almost certainly doesn’t exist.
It’s desperation – what else would have forced them to use rampant idiots like Thunberg and Ocasio-Cortez?

Earthling2
April 25, 2020 10:47 pm

It’s too bad Boris isn’t advocating for next gen nuclear and keep the UK dominant in atomic power for decades to come. The United Kingdom established the world’s first civil nuclear programme opening the nuclear power station Calder Hall at Windscale, England, in 1956. He should be also trying to convince France to keep their nuclear fleet operational long term. And further, convince Germany to not shutter the rest of their fleet by 2022, which is real soon in the scheme of things. That base load can never be replaced by renewables of any kind and is already near the technical limits of integration to the overall grid.

Following Fukushima, Germany has permanently shut down eight of its 17 reactors and pledged to close the rest by the end of 2022, which pledge should and will hopefully be rescinded. Globally, more nuclear power reactors have closed than opened in recent years but overall capacity has increased mostly due to China. With Europe slowing down nuclear, Russia must be salivating at winning that PR battle, and supplying gas/oil which other than coal, is their only real alternative. Wake up Boris, and provide some real leadership.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Earthling2
April 26, 2020 5:26 am

“Following Fukushima, Germany has permanently shut down eight of its 17 reactors and pledged to close the rest by the end of 2022, which pledge should and will hopefully be rescinded.”

Shutting down their nuclear reactors is just crazy. How delusional does one have to be to think that is a good idea?

I’m sorry to say we have a bunch of leaders in this world who are not up to the job. A large number of them are in Europe.

Are the Climategate Charlatans proud of what they did or are they appalled? Well, we know some of them are proud of their lies and deceptions, but let’s hope some of them realize the damage they have done to the world and regret doing so. They caused all this mass hysteria about CO2 and the insane policies that followed.

And there is no sign delusional leaders are waking up to reality.

archie
April 25, 2020 11:51 pm

I have been warning people for a decade that we are losing the CO2/global warming battle. You have to defund the climate sciences to rid the US of the scourge of this science. All it will take is one new administration to permanently tip the balance to tyranny and that date is either next November or November + 4 years.
Trump could divert 100% of the gravy trains of global warming and green energy into pandemic preparation with little effort.

April 25, 2020 11:54 pm

I wonder who is pulling the strings of these buffoons :

https://youtu.be/Zk11vI-7czE