Trump Impeachment – Because he Insulted Climate Brat Greta Thunberg?

Greta Thunberg “Staring Down” President Trump. Source Australian ABC

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Breitbart; Senator Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) let the cat out of the bag in a hearing on Thursday, expressing outrage that President Trump would ridicule Time Magazine choosing Greta Thunberg as person of the year.

This is a president that attacks everybody to distract. He attacks everybody who won’t bend the knee to Donald J. Trump. He attacked John McCain, a war hero. He attacked Mitt Romney, 2012 Republican nominee. He’s attacked Bob Mueller, a Marine and distinguished professional in law enforcement. He attacked your former Speaker Paul Ryan. He attacks Gold Star families. He even attacked today a 16-year-old teenage activist, Greta Thunberg.

All this in response to President Trump’s disdain for our little climate messiah;

“Are you here to defend that as well?” Jeffries asked his Republican colleagues about their arguments that Trump did nothing impeachable.

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President Trump ridiculing Time Magazine’s choice;

Is this really all they’ve got? Is the Democrat impeachment case so pathetic that they think citing President Trump insulting Greta will help boost support for their efforts?

Or maybe in their minds Democrats have put climate brat Greta Thunberg on such a pedestal, they think the American people will understand action against a President who insults her mission?

In the words of President Trump, “so ridiculous”.

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December 13, 2019 10:48 pm

Every person in that list attacked Trump.
Liberals don’t believe that those they oppose don’t have a right to fight back.

Ron Long
Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2019 2:03 am

Right you are, MarkW! Donald Trump grew up on the streets of Queens, as his parents, although very wealthy, made him walk to school. If you want to know what that culture is like, go to Queens, find a group of young boys, and insult them to their face and see what happens. Trump is a counter-puncher and America First – Fix the Economy President.

Steven Lonien
Reply to  Ron Long
December 14, 2019 12:01 pm

Of course $ trillions your childrens children would have to pay do not register if we survive ? ignored climate emergencys just saying truth. Defines pompas asses .

Pat Frank
Reply to  Steven Lonien
December 14, 2019 12:07 pm

Steven, there is no discernible climate emergency.

The burden on your children’s children will bear down if the AGW folk manage to destroy industrial prosperity.

Ron Long
Reply to  Steven Lonien
December 14, 2019 2:08 pm

(Snipped) SUNMOD

Reply to  Steven Lonien
December 14, 2019 2:17 pm

There are no climate emergencies. Everything that has happened has happened before. Most of them frequently.

F.LEGHORN in Alabama
Reply to  Steven Lonien
December 15, 2019 2:19 pm

“Defines pompous asses”? Greta is an abused child. One who is being used to further an agenda that will destroy the entire world’s economy and cause billions of people to live short, brutish lives. Besides, his “insult” is nothing next to the evil eye she gave him.

Reply to  Ron Long
December 15, 2019 11:09 pm

And a politician who fights back is like an inspiring General whose character can motivate the infantrymen to run under enemy fire and take the enemy nest.

Knowing that Trump will not back down when faced with inept criticism, and that he almost never apologizes, is what supporters need to know; it’s what gave the extremely ineffectual republican politicians the “willpower” (lol) to stand up for once.

(Of course the problem is that some people seem to think that giving their opinion to Hannity is acting.)

Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2019 3:37 am

Every person in that list attacked Trump.
My thoughts exactly, but you beat me to it.

Steven Lonien
Reply to  Jim
December 14, 2019 12:39 pm

Of course $ trillions your childrens children would have to pay do not register if we survive ? ignored climate emergencys just saying truth. Defines pompas asses .HILLARY and Bill Clinton at left surplus .got impeach by crotchety frame/blow job . Evidence.not promoting russian invasions .

Reply to  Steven Lonien
December 14, 2019 2:20 pm

Once again, a creature of the left decides that in order to win, he has to re-write history.
Clinton had a surplus for a few years, it was gone before he left office.
That surplus was also caused by the Reagan/Bush tax cuts which resulted in a growing economy which increased tax revenues faster than Clinton could spend it.

I might add that when Gingrich put forth a plan to balance the budget, Clinton and all the left wing fruit cakes declared that the plan was unrealistic and could never succeed.
The plan called to balance the budget in 7 years, it was actually balanced in less than 4.

Mike H
Reply to  Steven Lonien
December 14, 2019 3:22 pm

Repeating this gibberish will not make it magically credible. BTW, Clinton was impeached for lying to Congress, not getting his knob polished in the Oval Office.

Reply to  Mike H
December 14, 2019 3:37 pm

Actually women’s right champion Clinton was impeached for lying to the grand jury investigating the sexual assault accusations of Paula Jones.
“…depends on what yous definition of is is…”
Clinton then went on TV and lied to the nation
“I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms Lewinsky
Pelosi recently played the Clinton impeachment because of sex card. The lie that won’t die
And let us not forget that Hillary claimed she never worked on Whitewater at the Rose Law Firm. Conveniently one day after the statute of limitations on perjury expired her billing records mysteriously appeared on a table in the WH residence. Seems she did work on Whitewater and lied and then rubbed it in our face.
Classy couple of grifters, they.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Mike H
December 14, 2019 6:25 pm

“czechlist December 14, 2019 at 3:37 pm

Classy couple of grifters, they.”

There is a picture of them, must have been taken when they were at university, and you can just tell they would, eventually, be high class criminals. I think Hillary was wearing those stupid tiny little round green wire-framed sunglasses typical of hippy types on the time.

Richard Patton
Reply to  Steven Lonien
December 14, 2019 10:49 pm

you have posted the same thing twice and I still don’t understand what you are trying to say.

Reply to  Steven Lonien
December 15, 2019 11:39 pm

Leftists “women’s right defenders” argued that sex with a subordinate was inherently abusive, as there is no consent possible inside a superior-subordinate relationship, and that it was NOT a private matter, until they argued it was consensual, OK (and a private matter).

Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2019 3:54 am

They are also prone to denigrating those to the right of them on the political spectrum. I remember the chattering class telling us how stupid George W. Bush was in spite of all the evidence that his IQ was well above average. They even had Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Liberals like to think of themselves as open minded but they are just as prejudiced as anyone else. link They are highly intolerant and they are, these days, much more likely to violently shut down opinions that don’t conform to their idea of morality.

Spencer Greenberg, a mathematician who runs a website for improving decision-making, found that the one of the biggest predictors of voting for Trump after party affiliation was the rejection of political correctness—Trump’s voters felt silenced.

Reply to  commieBob
December 14, 2019 5:55 am

Remember the denigration of Rumsfeld for his “known unknowns” remark. Or Bush’s “the French don’t have a word for entrepreneur.” No suggestion in either case that that there was an intelligent brain at work behind either, at least according to their political opponents and the media. Which says something about the opponents!

There are various versions of Bush’s reaction to being told of the attack on 9/11. He admits to being stunned for several minutes but it has always been to his credit, in my view, that did not leap to his feet and dash out of that classroom like a headless chicken emoting as he went — which is inevitably what the Left and the media demanded of him.

The only Republican president since Eisenhower the media have put up with was Reagan, mainly because he didn’t give two cents for what they thought of him and was likely to give as good as he got anyway. They and the Left in general all take themselves and life far too seriously and appear to have had their sense of humour replaced with an overbearing self-righteousness.

Reply to  Newminster
December 14, 2019 7:23 am

Oh, the Left-academia-media complex hated Reagan, too. Recall “Amiable Dunce”, among other appellations. That Reagan laughed at them stung them, too. Also forgotten was that Reagan graduated from a small Mid-western college where he was a Sociology and Economics major, earning the degree in 1932 (think of that, in the depths of the Great Depression), from here: and you can go to the Eureka College, I think, to get more information.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  cdquarles
December 14, 2019 11:18 am

Yeah, the Leftwing called Reagan an “amiable dunce” and “senile” and dangerous. Reagan made a joke in front of a hot microphone about “We start bombing the Russians in five minutes” and the Left went nuts! They actually thought Reagan was going to attack the Russians.

The Left and the Leftwing Media have been attacking Republicans and conservatives on a regular basis since the 1960’s. The difference between the rest of the Republicans and Trump is that Trump fights back. Something the other Repubicans seldom did. Reagan did push back a little, but he kept it polite. But, even so, he was called all the usual names that lefties call Republicans. He didn’t get a pass.

The Leftwing Media in the past was able to cow most Repubicans into silence, but that does’t work with Trump and you can see this infuriates them and is one reason they go after him so vigorously. Meanwhile, Trump is destroying their credibility. Actually, they are destroying their own credibiity with their obsession over harming Trump. I guess it works out to the same thing: A much less influential Leftwing Media, which is a very good thing for the United States.

Reply to  Newminster
December 14, 2019 12:47 pm

The thing about that “known unknowns” comment is that it is perfectly understandable, especially when heard in context.

Rumsfeld was talking about information the armed forces had when planning for conflict, the information they didn’t have and know they didn’t have, and information they didn’t have and didn’t know they wanted it.

Rumsfeld distilled that second phrase down to two words.

The media apparently never heard the saying “brevity is the soul of wit”.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  David
December 15, 2019 3:07 am

“The media apparently never heard the saying “brevity is the soul of wit”.”

The media don’t care. Their focus is on distorting whatever Republicans say, for political purposes. The Media are not honest brokers, they are partisan, political hacks posing as reporters.

Dr Deanster
Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2019 5:53 am

…and that is why the left always favors such people to represent their message. The idea is that you cant ridicule the message without ridiculing the messenger. … and how dare you ridicule a 16 year old on spectrum.

Trump doesn’t play their game. He calls it as it is, and if St. Greta is going to throw a punch at Trump based on his climate position, Trump will respond in kind. …… he’s been doing it to our despicable media sense day 1 …. and it is why I will vote for him ….. again.

Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2019 6:24 am

The House Judiciary Committee did its Constitutional duty in voting to forward Articles of Impeachment of President Trump for gross abuse of power and contempt of Congress – two extremely dangerous and totally proven charges that Trump and his GOP toadies in Congress do not even bother to deny.

Attacking Greta Thunberg out of Trump’s obvious pathological jealousy that she won Time’s Person of the Year while he did not is simply a data point for everyone to keep in mind. Trump of course will not be convicted and removed from office by his corrupt toadies in the GOP-controlled Senate. But Trump WILL be removed from office by the American people come November 2 next year.

Defending the indefensible is now SOP for the corrupted, Trumpified party of RINOs – indeed, Republicans in name only, because they bear no resemblance whatsoever to the Party of Bush, Reagan, Teddy Roosevelt, and Abraham Lincoln. Today’s GOP is the Party of Putin. Traitors all.

Reply to  Duane
December 14, 2019 7:40 am

Give that man a roll of duct tape and ask Hank Johnson how to use it.

Reply to  Duane
December 14, 2019 8:42 am

let me guess, you read/watched the sound bites and media coverage w/o having ever read the transcripts and dossier correct?

Robert W. Turner
Reply to  Duane
December 14, 2019 8:45 am

Abuse of power and contempt of congress? Good luck with those delusions, they aren’t even high crimes.

Steven Lonien
Reply to  Robert W. Turner
December 14, 2019 12:05 pm

Did you go to school ?

Reply to  Steven Lonien
December 14, 2019 2:22 pm

Typical troll. Can’t actually refute anything but believes that if he throws out enough insults he’ll win.

Reply to  Steven Lonien
December 14, 2019 4:03 pm

S. Lonien…

None of this really mattes or has any much meaning to the democrats,
unless and until Hillary Clinton enters the race for the Presidency…
as you too may very well know.


Reply to  Steven Lonien
December 14, 2019 5:27 pm

SL, why are you emulating “Simple Jack”?

Reply to  Steven Lonien
December 16, 2019 5:55 am

Abuse of power and contempt of Congress(not what is being charged, did you go to school?) are not chargeable crimes under US code. Nice try, though, fail is all you got.

Reply to  Robert W. Turner
December 16, 2019 5:22 am

At that point, anyone who doesn’t feel STRONG contempt for congress should get his brain checked.

Reply to  Duane
December 14, 2019 9:07 am

Please cite the specific acts and the actual statutes and that were violated by Trump. Every President has been accused of abuse of power, and without a doubt, every President has been contemptible of Congress.

The problem is, once again the Democrats are choosing to ignore the Constitution. “High crimes and misdemeanors,” is not subject to political interpretation.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Duane
December 14, 2019 9:09 am

Wow! You must have the privilege of divine access to be so certain of the things you claim. “Totally Proven?” You have a very low bar for proof.

Assuming, for the sake of argument, that your claim of “pathological jealousy” is true, explain why the president of Brazil is also attacking Thunberg.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Duane
December 14, 2019 11:33 am

Duane wrote: The House Judiciary Committee did its Constitutional duty in voting to forward Articles of Impeachment of President Trump for gross abuse of power and contempt of Congress – two extremely dangerous and totally proven charges that Trump and his GOP toadies in Congress do not even bother to deny.”

Well, that’s the Democrat talking point.

The charges are completely baseless. There is no evidence of a quid pro quo anywhere which nullifies the “Abuse of Power” charge; and Trump has the legal right to take any requests from Congress to the Supreme Court to be decided there, but the Democrats in the House have short-circuited the legal procedure and are calling Trump’s request to the Supreme Court as being “Obstruction of Congress”, which is obviously not based in fact.

The Supreme Court as it so happens has decided to take up Trump’s requests to examine his Executive Privilege claims which should be an embarassement to the Democrats since they are claiming Trump has committed Obstruction of Congress before the Supreme Court has even ruled.

If the Supreme Court were to rule that Trump had to cooperate in certain ways with Congress and then, after that ruling, Trump still refused to comply, then, and ONLY then, could Trump be legitimately charged with Obstruction of Congress. But the Democrats were in too much of a hurry to wait on legalities and prematurely impeached Trump, assuming the Democrats actually get enough votes to do that next week. I wouldn’t bet money on it either way.

Impeaching Trump is a losing propostion. The Democrats will figure that out one of these days.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2019 12:17 pm

The branches of the US government are co-equal in power. The president isn’t required to do anything demanded by Congress or by the Supreme Court.

Congress’ only recourse for enforcement is to cut off money or to impeach and remove. The Supreme Court has no means of coercion.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2019 12:22 pm

If the Supreme Court were to rule that Trump had to cooperate in certain ways with Congress and then, after that ruling, Trump still refused to comply, then, and ONLY then, could Trump be legitimately charged with Obstruction of Congress.

The Supreme Court is not the ultimate arbiter of the Constitution. The Supreme Court has improperly arrogated that role to itself.

The president is entirely within the rights of office to defy Congress. It is not a crime for the president to do so, any more than that it is a crime for Congress to defy the Supreme Court.

Richard Patton
Reply to  Pat Frank
December 14, 2019 11:06 pm

Little known fact, Congress has the right, which they have never exercised, to exclude anything they want from Supreme Court Judicial review. Article III Section II Paragraph 2 Sentence 2. “In all other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.”

Congress never needs to be in the position of defying the Supreme Court. They just pass a law saying that certain cases are not the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court. For instance, they could say Abortion rights cases are to be tried at state level, that the Supreme court has no jursdiction.

Reply to  Pat Frank
December 14, 2019 11:16 pm

“The Supreme Court is not the ultimate arbiter of the Constitution.”

I think that question has been well and truly litigated and while you might personally think that “The Supreme Court has improperly arrogated that role to itself”, it makes not a jot of difference.

You are, at this moment in time, wrong.

Reply to  Duane
December 14, 2019 2:13 pm

But Trump WILL be removed from office by the American people come November 2 next year.

He has much better odds of winning than any other politician. link

Prediction is difficult …

Reply to  Duane
December 14, 2019 2:16 pm

So much hatred, so little intelligence, definitely another leftist.

Even if he did ask the Ukraine to investigate Biden’s son, so what. Obama sic’d the Justice Dept and IRS on his opponents, and the Democrats cheered.

Another thing that I’ve noticed about you leftists is that you actually believe that whatever branch of government you control must be the top branch and must be obeyed by the other branches. There is nothing that requires the President to kowtow before congress.

Greta attacks Trump, Trump strikes back, left wing nut cases world over get outraged over Trump daring to not worship as they do.

Declaring that anyone who opposes them is indefensible and must be destroyed has always been SOP for the left.

Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2019 5:57 pm

When did this Greta attack Trump? I thought she was just reading out loud the science reports from a lot of scientists. Then being upset why these reports are not taken seriously. Is that an attack on Trump?

Reply to  Brunswick
December 16, 2019 5:51 am

So you are not paying attention to the noise coming out of her mouth? Good for you! She has directly, by name, attacked several leaders of different countries by, as you say, reading the scripts handed to her. Goes around comes around.

Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2019 8:12 pm

To me the salient point is that Joe Biden was the sitting vice-president when Hunter Biden was getting money for nothing from Burisma.

We also know that Joe Biden forced Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma, when they were paying Hunter Biden money for nothing.

It seems to me that any subsequent administration has objective cause to investigate the obvious suspicion of corruption by a very high ranking member of the previous government.

The fact that Joe Biden is running for president while under a valid suspicion of serious corruption only makes the investigation more urgent.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Pat Frank
December 15, 2019 3:28 am

Joe Biden was also in charge of Ukraine during the time when the Russians, the Ukrainians, the Democrat National Committee, and Hillary were all colluding, centered around Ukraine, in their efforts to undermine Trump’s candidacy and presidency and the U.S. Constitution.

What was Joe Biden’s role in this treason?

I think Senator Graham should look into this matter. Before the next election. He can do this either during any impeachment trial that may occur in the U.S. Senate, or as a separate investigation originating from Senator Graham’s Senate committee.

Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2019 8:37 am

Liberals DO believe that those they oppose don’t have a right to fight back.

Robert W. Turner
Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2019 8:42 am

The POTUS should just tweet out a criticism of himself and let the NPCs short circuit.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2019 9:01 am

You should have heard Hank “Guam Tipping Over” Johnson. He’s upset that Trump is too tall, therefore he intimidated the shorter Ukrainian president.

Big T
Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2019 1:06 pm

It would be nice if the stupid bastard would just flush his Twitter down the toilet!! He acts like a fffing 8 year old. He is only pissed that HE didn’t get the Time cover! Go away scrump!!

Reply to  Big T
December 14, 2019 5:39 pm

President Trump was Time man of the year in 2016.

Reply to  Big T
December 15, 2019 7:14 am

You know Big T, I believe The Donald only posts 8 year old like tweets on Twitter to wind up habitually indignant left-tards. Then after an amusing storm of exploding heads on virtual gossip columns, lunatic lefties can relied on to retreat en-masse to a suitable echo chamber for a latte and a group hug to assuage their precious feelers, in the meantime The Donald can get on with running the country with fewer distractions.
St Greta was chosen precisely to act as human sheild for the feeble gullible warming movement, but whether 16 or 76, anyone putting themelves on a public platform is fair game for criticism. Especially when they insist on acting like a such a petulent gobshite. Since there’s a growing number of the populace who agree with The Donald (that the Turdberg and her puppet masters are full of odious, offensive, brown, bovine goo) then his tweet, even if 8 year old esque in your opinion, won’t upset his campaign. Regardless of Hakeem Jeffries packing a wagh about it; to non-snowflakes, this is another case of ‘sorry I offended you with my common sense’.
If this is Time’s ‘person of the year’, then some people at Time need to get out more. Then again, didn’t Time’s fashion correspondents decide a couple of years ago that the ‘person of the year’ were all the twatterati aboard the #Meetoo-deetoo bandwagon?
…Excuse me, that might be the sound of me failing to give a toss.

Reply to  Big T
December 15, 2019 3:21 pm

Ahhh, are you triggered, sweety? Need some play-dough and crayons so you feel better? #4more KAG

Hot under the collar
Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2019 1:41 pm

How dare he disagree with the Liberal left group think!

Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2019 4:50 pm

McCain: Fought to suppress knowledge of potential Vietnam POW’s (opposite of a war hero) & also
anti-trumper. After promising voters of his state that he would vote against Obamacare, he decided
instead to punish Trump by voting for it and saying afterwards: “Now let’s see Trump make
America Great Again”.

Mitt Romney: Vulture Capitalist/Robber Baron/anti-Trumper/RINO

Bob Mueller: Along with Andrew Wiesman, corrupt FBI prosecuters.
Supreme Court found unanimously against Weissmann’s prosecutions against Arthur
Anderson. Mueller prosecuted wrong man on “dog sniffing” evidence who committed suicide
because of the persecution. Alaska Sentor Ted Stevens witch hunt. Others. Would speculate
that FBI hasn’t changed much since Hoover and same for CIA other intelligence agencies.

Patrick MJD
December 13, 2019 10:59 pm

How dare he!

December 13, 2019 11:13 pm

Is Greta one of the Kardashians?
You know – those people who are always in the media for having done nothing other than being in the media.

Reply to  Mr.
December 14, 2019 1:03 am

And a deformed rear end.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  David
December 14, 2019 5:42 am

A deformed Kardashian rear end, where?

December 13, 2019 11:16 pm

Think of the unplanned children!

December 13, 2019 11:24 pm

From the land of OZ looking in to your wonderful yankee land. Go you good thing Trump, and take no crap from the PC brigade whom seem to have lost all sensibilities of reality.

Reply to  Wayne Job
December 15, 2019 9:03 pm

When you make excuses to appease the PC police, you are implicitly admitting a bad act (or at least that the accusation was not batcrazy in the first place) and you are not appeasing anything.

Also, you are demoralizing your most devoted advocates by saying that there is fault where there is none.

I knew François Fillon would probably lose to Macron et Marine Le Pen when he fired a cartoon drawer based on a phony accusation by “experts of fascism” (probably fascists themselves) and historians of the 30ties (who probably don’t understand much of what happened in the world in the last century) that a drawing of Macron used typical 30ties-like antisemitic imagery. Macron has a strange pointy nose, not a “Jew nose” and it’s hard to imagine drawing a caricature of Macron with a normal nose, as it’s his most atypical facial feature.

The stupidity of the accusation really was overwhelming even for the simple minds of the media; it was WAR against the soft “conservatism” of Fillon. Fillon handled it as if it was a dinner with relatives that he wouldn’t want to contradict. I found that disgusting from him – and I despised Fillon in the first place.

Fillon was not the friend of the mass media establishment in the first place so he had nothing to lose playing hard.

December 13, 2019 11:27 pm

There is a limit to what can be said about a retarded school drop-out.

Reply to  Karabar
December 13, 2019 11:45 pm

That should read maybe abused retarded…..

December 13, 2019 11:34 pm

Seen somewhere on the internet.

Greta Thunberg delighted as BoJo now claims UK is Corbyn Neutral

F. Ross
Reply to  JohnM
December 13, 2019 11:53 pm


Reply to  JohnM
December 14, 2019 12:15 am

I hope not. Corbyn is a highly articulate and educated man, with a great knowledge of meteorology and the climate. His brother Jeremy ….. not so much.

Reply to  philincalifornia
December 14, 2019 12:31 am

Oi, that’s my joke! 😎

Reply to  JohnM
December 14, 2019 8:01 am

Groan twice. But raised a laugh…..

F. Ross
December 13, 2019 11:48 pm

Greta (or her handlers) put her in the public eye;
… to paraphrase Pres. Truman, if she can’t stand the heat she should stay out of the kitchen.

Bemused Bill
December 13, 2019 11:50 pm

Karabar is right, I have nothing to add about this strange little girl, she has filled her empty soul with hatred and her empty head with other peoples lies…so I’ll say this…. happy days are here again, I enjoyed that last night guys, I really did. Not as much as 2016 where I spent the entire day laughing, but it feels more than the end of the beginning now…I feel like we are winning now. And if it wasn’t for that amazing bloke Donald Trump, I don’t know where we would be.
We have an advantage they don’t understand, we are not insane.

Reply to  Bemused Bill
December 14, 2019 3:44 am

Bemused: Not sure “winning” is the correct term. More like poking a stick in a beehive and then hoping we don’t get stung to death. As far as I can see, most are running from the bees, not fighting back. But everyone has their own definition of “winning”, which is how we end up in these messes.

Reply to  Bemused Bill
December 14, 2019 4:11 am

Democratic President contender Bloooomburger is spending $4,500,000 a day on publicity, “the brat” gets that plus for free !
Oh ha, um, a Democrat

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bemused Bill
December 14, 2019 4:49 am

“We have an advantage they don’t understand, we are not insane.”

Good way to put it!

The radical Left is definitely insane. Unfortunately, insane people are the last ones to figure out they are insane, if they ever do.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2019 9:14 am

It has been said that the sane question their sanity while the insane never do. The insane are absolutely convinced that they are right and those that don’t agree with them must therefore be wrong.

December 13, 2019 11:57 pm

President Trump’s real gift seems to be exposing the complete lack of intelligence of many of those elected to the lower chamber of Congress, and a few in the the upper ? Added to which, he has, being the Outsider, completely messed up the trickle down, or Buggins turn system that these wonders of human intelligence imagined to be their just reward.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Fanakapan
December 14, 2019 12:19 am

More like a complete lack of ethics.
Evil can be smart. Very smart.

Robert W. Turner
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
December 14, 2019 8:50 am

Smart? As in Wile E. Coyote was smart?

Curious George
Reply to  Fanakapan
December 14, 2019 7:48 am

There is a Czech saying, You can’t make a whip from shit. Even if you make it, you can’t crack with it.

What a program for the 116th Congress!

Adam Gallon
December 13, 2019 11:58 pm

Insulting a Saint! That’s Heresy! Sounds like the Globalists are desperate that he doesn’t get to stand for a second term, they know he’ll be re-elected with a landslide.

December 14, 2019 12:13 am

I just hope Boris Johnson can now quietly drop his GW nonsense….

Reply to  Mark
December 14, 2019 3:35 am

Not while he has an ecomentalist girlfriend…

Melvyn Dackombe
Reply to  Mark
December 14, 2019 3:41 am

Mark, I have just read the main points of Boris’s 100 day proposals and GW etc is not mentioned.

Adam Gallon
Reply to  Mark
December 14, 2019 3:45 am

Not a chance.
Too much tax revenue depends upon it, for starters.
We’re going to have enough problems accessing European markets, the way he’s headed with Brexit, without the potential threats of an EU-wide carbon tax, of some sort, being applied to us.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Adam Gallon
December 14, 2019 4:55 am

“We’re going to have enough problems accessing European markets, the way he’s headed with Brexit, without the potential threats of an EU-wide carbon tax, of some sort, being applied to us.”

Yes, the EU may try to pull that carbon tax scam with the U.S., too. Trump isn’t going to be paying a carbon tax to the EU. They are going to cause themselves a lot of trouble if they try to impose such a thing on the U.S.

Meanwhile, the U.S. and UK will set up a trade deal between themselves that will be so good it will make some of the other European nations wish they too had exited the EU. 🙂

Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2019 6:08 am

I see no difference between the tactics of terrorists using women, children and hospitals as a shield and the greens using Greta T as one. They and the media have foisted a 16 year old (when will she be 17?) in front of themselves hoping that no criticism will be launched at them.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2019 8:33 am

Germany is in reession … as Germany goes, so goes the EU. Britain will have pulled an Houdini escape in leaving the EU as its leaders wallow in their own self righteous indignation that those pesky Britons had the audacity to disagree with their “vision”.

Monet warned them, but it’s Bye, Bye Yoshu now!

I congratulate GB on it’s total rejection of Corbyn, the Labour Party and the hideous totalitarianism for which it stands. May they never recover.

John Law
Reply to  Mark
December 14, 2019 3:47 am

“And get fracking”
Get Corbyn (Piers) on his climate team!

December 14, 2019 12:14 am

The global fight of gretins against the reason takes some weird shapes — but in the end it shall disappear in a puff of stinking smoke.

December 14, 2019 12:29 am

# Orange man bad. Evidence? We don’t need no stinkin evidence.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
December 14, 2019 5:09 am

“We don’t need no stinkin evidence.”

Exactly! The Democrats are screwing themselves up rapidly. They are to the point where they are alienating members of their own political party!

I think the Democrats are in for an epic smackdown come November 2020. Trump is going to win and Republcians are going to hold the Senate and take back the House, and put an end to the political crimes of the Democrats. No more impeachment shams.

One thing I do have to disagree with Trump over is he said yesterday that the Democrats were using impeachment as a political weapon and they better watch out because the next time Republicans take over the House they might just do the same thing and go after a Democrat president for political purposes.

No, I’m afraid that’s not going to happen. You see Republcian politicians for the most part, are different from Democrat politicians in that Republicans will not use impeachment as a political weapon. And don’t throw up Clinton, he lied under oath, a crime. So the Republicans are really at a disadvantage because the Democrats are ruthless and the Republcians are not. There won’t be a “tit for tat” as far as political impeachment goes. The way to theaten Democrat politicians is to tell them they are going to jail if they break the law. No slap on the wrist this time.

Let’s see how many House Democrat representatives vote against impeachment. The numbers seem to be climbing.

Trump says he is personally going to campaign against the House Democrats who won in States where Trump won the State (31 Democrats. Republcians need to win 18 seats to take back the House). How would you like to be facing that if you were a Democrat? 🙂

Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2019 11:35 am

“And don’t throw up Clinton, he lied under oath, a crime.”

Well, to me lying about consensual sex on the side is not as serious as blocking funds allocated by congress, which were intended to help an ally in their conflict with Russia, who, by the way, is not on our side. I’m less concerned about legality than the constitutional role of our officials. Call me crazy.

Reply to  Doug
December 14, 2019 2:30 pm

People not named Clinton have gone to jail for lying under oath about consensual sex.

The claim that Trump blocked the funds is often made, but the proof of it is lacking.

Reply to  Doug
December 14, 2019 11:11 pm

“not as serious as blocking funds allocated by congress,”

Since the evidence is pretty clear that a) the funds were subsequently released b) the Ukraines were unaware they were being withheld at the time of the infamous phone call and c) the delay was administrative and a normal occurrence, rather than a political decision – then perhaps you should re-evaluate your position?

I couldn’t care less about who blew Clinton either, and he was my man back then.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  DrDweeb
December 15, 2019 4:01 am

“I couldn’t care less about who blew Clinton either, and he was my man back then.”

And it should be noted that the Republicans in the U.S. Senate at the time, where completely uninterested in removing Bill Clinton from Office. They didn’t want anything to do with it! Lindsey Graham was a member of the House of Representatives at that time, and was among the House members assigned to handle the impeachment over in the U.S. Senate, and Rep. Graham was given very little assistance from the Senate Republicans. Just ask him. Removal was “dead on arrival” as far as the Republican Senators were concerned.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Doug
December 15, 2019 3:46 am

The main point about the Clinton and Nixon impeachments is they were bi-partisan. House members from both parties voted for the impeachment.

In Trump’s case, not one Republican has voted in favor of impeachment, and two Democrats have already voted against it, one of whom said yesterday he is planning on switching from the Democrat Party to the Republican Party because he disagrees with the way the Democrats are handling this impeachment.

The Founders of the United States warned against political impeachments where one political party impeaches a president of another political party. An impeachment must be bi-partisan or else it divides the nation, perhaps to the point of no return.

The Democrats in the House are doing this not because they have any evidence of guilt on Trump’s part but because they have 19 more votes than the Republicans and so can impose their political will on the House of Representatives.

I predict this abuse of their political power will come back to bite them. The American people see what you are doing, and they don’t like it. Even Democrats are starting to speak out publicly against what the House Democrats are doing. One guy told Bernie Sanders yesterday that he voted for Sanders in 2016, but because of this impeachment fiasco he was voting Republican next time. He told this right to Bernie’s face. The speaker was angry.

The Democrats are sowing the wind and are going to reap the whirlwind, with their partisan, political efforts to undermine our form of government..

Reply to  Doug
December 15, 2019 3:32 pm

You are correct, Obama should be criminally prosecuted for his personal failure to support Ukraine as per treaty between US and Ukraine. Obama blocked financial, medical, food and military aid to Ukraine WHILE they were under direct military assault from Russia. Glad you figured all that out. There is also a treaty between Ukraine and US which requires cooperation on investigation of criminal activity by American’s doing business with Ukraine based businesses. That one ratified during the Clinton Admin.. Should he be prosecuted, too?

Reply to  2hotel9
December 15, 2019 10:50 pm

This is OT from the original thread, but related to the current part of the discussion.

If one reads this, and watches the videos then there is a possibility that your world view will get changed.

OAN seems to be on the ball more often than all the MSM combined these days.

ps: I bet the bank in Latvia is Den Danske Bank which is already embroiled in a massive scandal over this sort of activity

Reply to  DrDweeb
December 16, 2019 6:17 am

Thanks, I will be passing Threadreader along to lots of friends. I have been following the Eastern Europe/Russia/US corruption shenanigans for a long time, going back to the women/child sex trafficking investigations in the mid 1990s. Got the tie-in going to Burisma, Gazprom and UN when a friend working in Czech Republic told me about it. His knowledge goes back to Saddam and UN’s Oil for Food scam, much of that fiasco was channeled through former Soviet republics/Eastern European countries while many of the trafficked women and children were from and moved through same. Yep, quite the nest of corruption and plenty of US citizens involved in it.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Doug
December 16, 2019 11:22 am

In an ideal world, what Clinton did should have been between him and his wife and he just should have told his critics, “No comment.” However, consider that the man who sat next to the Red Telephone was so embarrassed by his actions that he was willing to lie under oath. That made him susceptible to black mail. While we aren’t aware of any consequences, that should have raised the question of the “constitutional role of our officials” to show up on your radar.

To be accurate, Trump did not actually block the transfer of funds, he delayed it. The funds were delivered within the statutory time limits.

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
December 16, 2019 4:09 pm

Actually Democrats on 3 separate Congressional Committees delayed the aid, Trump Admin went along with them, until they didn’t. That is when the current ugliness commenced, Russia,Russia,Russia having failed spectacularly.

Greg Cavanagh
December 14, 2019 12:34 am

Trump has as much right and privilege as the rest of us, to “tell it like it is”. Everyone who has a brain can see that Greta has zero skill, zero knowledge, and zero credentials. She is NOT a protected species just because she is young. If you want to cook in the kitchen, then deal with the heat or get the * out.

Why would anybody give Greta the benefit of the doubt? What does she know about atmospheric science or politics?

Ed Zuiderwijk
December 14, 2019 12:35 am

“We will make sure we put world leaders against the wall” (if they do not tackle global warming).

How’s that for incitment to violence?

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
December 14, 2019 2:03 am

How did she get to italy?

How is this vile woman (she is 16 so not a child) aloud to use such words and have such presence in the media

John Tillman
Reply to  Sunny
December 14, 2019 3:03 am

She turns 17 on January 3.

Drinking and voting age in Sweden is 18. But you have to be 20 to buy beverages of over 3.5% alcohol in a state liquor store.

Driving age is 16 but licensing is 18. Age of consent is 15.

Military service obligation is 16 to 17, with draft eligibility at 18. Both sexes are subject to conscription but few are called up.

So, as in American states, she’s in the legal transition zone from minority to maturity.

Reply to  John Tillman
December 14, 2019 3:47 am

None of that matters. You can raise a child even if you are 10 years old when you give birth. THEREFORE, YOU ARE AN ADULT.

Reply to  Sunny
December 14, 2019 3:45 am

Got to Italy most likely on a train or bus.

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
December 14, 2019 2:38 am

Ah Turin, Back in the day Il Duce compared the place to an Olive, black on the outside, but red inside 🙂

Interesting though that this picture of childhood innocence now advocates (presumably) extrajudicial executions. Could be a basis for a Hollywood horror film ? Yellow raincoated child evokes sympathy but then kills those who have slighted her.

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
December 14, 2019 4:13 am

As Xi would say we will park a tank on your young naive heads, lets see who gets to do it first.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
December 14, 2019 5:12 am

““We will make sure we put world leaders against the wall” (if they do not tackle global warming”

I want to see them try to put Trump up against the wall. That ought to be interesting and instructive.

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
December 14, 2019 7:49 am

Look at how they are dressed and yet you can see that they are freezing cold by the red noses and cheeks. You know that they will get inside and take hot showers and baths as soon as they can and enjoy the warmth and shelter that fossil fuels provide.

Joel O'Bryan
December 14, 2019 12:38 am

First things first.
My hearty congratulations to Boris Johnson and the Torys for their blown out win over J Corbyn and the Labour.

It was just recently we had an article here at WUWT about how the globalists were supposedlyback in ascendance.
“Climate Scientist: Far Left British Politician Jeremy Corbyn will Save the World”
Eric Worrall / 1 week ago December 5, 2019

“And just as Brexit spurred the Trump campaign, a win for Labour would increase the chances of the Democrats in the US reaching office and pursuing a similar Green New Deal. The tide would be turning towards deploying the tools of the state to reshape the economy to seriously tackle climate change.


That should tell the Climate Change bcarnival barkes and snake oil sellers The People are not fooled by the Left’s push to enslave the middle class and drive energy poverty on us. Just so that the elites and Lord over us in some return to a feudal society era, and fly around the world to their Aspen or Davos ski chalets and to thier Mediterranean mega-yachts in their private jets.

Ands the US Democrats are now scared. Scared shitless. Really.
But like a wounded, bleeding animal, all they know how to do is lash out in emotion and fury.
Let them.

Show us what you really are US Democrats. Scumbags. All of you.

Rod Evans
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
December 14, 2019 1:11 am

This covers it for most realists after the election night here in the UK.
quote ““went to bed and slept the sleep of the saved” that night.
The Maxists totalitarians promoted by the EU, were roundly defeated.
History does repeat.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
December 14, 2019 2:47 am

Social Democracy in the Western world has effectively lost its raison d’etre. It was useful long ago as a countervailing force to the sort of extreme capitalism that existed in the earlier days of industrial progress. It really had achieved all its aims by the 60’s here in the UK, but quickly moved on to require a countervailing force itself.

Unable to adapt to the modern world, and trapped by its roots, it now only appeals to middle class beta types, and moochers of every stripe.

Reply to  Fanakapan
December 14, 2019 2:37 pm

The extreme capitalism that has you so scared never existed.
What did exist was a combination of mercantalism and crony socialism.

The advances that most socialists claim for socialism were actually caused by capitalism.
It wasn’t socialism that improved the lot of the poor, it was capitalism that increased the productivity of workers which caused their incomes to rise.
It wasn’t socialism that got kids out of the work force, it was capitalism.
It wasn’t socialism that shortened the work week, it was capitalism.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
December 14, 2019 4:33 am

If you want a real laugh have a look at COP25 it has gone into overtime

The funniest statement that some countries and left are holding onto that there will be some sort of regulated compensation for developing countries for damage as a result of climate change. So we compete for trade almost to the brink of war and then countries are just going to give away that advantage. Even if some fool politician was so inclined they simply would be booted out of office because the politicians simply reflect the public view.

The left and socialist may sit around dreaming of the perfect world where we all sit around a fire and sing kombiah but 90% of most nations are in a competition to get ahead both with there fellow countrymen and most definitely any other foreigner.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  LdB
December 14, 2019 9:20 am

“Gone into overtime” is about all that I have been able to find from the MSM on the internet. It started with a bang and appears to be ending with a whimper.

December 14, 2019 1:41 am

“Is this really all they’ve got?”

Is this really all you’ve got? Base click bait? I guess it is You must almost peed yourself at the prospect of combining Trump and Thunberg in the same Litebart re-hash.

Reply to  Loydo
December 14, 2019 2:10 am


Really? Don’t you think that using a utterly useless child in a impeachment case is sad and desperate?

So far the citizens of the usa and uk have shown that the whining and pathetic constant lies of the greens fall on deaf ears. The citizens need food, water, heat, and the comforts of modern times, Not the repetitive bullshit of the u.n and greta 😐 ” we are all going to die” while greta travels all over the western world in fossil fuel powered transport, and the u.n flies first class and has a “diplomats bar” in their head office 😐 All the while, we must buy nothing and become amish 😐

Reply to  Sunny
December 14, 2019 3:11 am

The Amish are Christians and the left want’s nothing to do with that.

Reply to  Sunny
December 14, 2019 4:10 am

the Melbourne Herald online today ran an item(paywalled) saying the people of Victoria are wanting the councils to concern themselves with roads maintenance issues and garbage and NOT on climate and global nuke protests etc
cheered me up;-)
of course the premier wont listen;-( too many green scams on the go to pay attention
but his next election run should be the last

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 14, 2019 3:08 am

Sooner than that…

Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 14, 2019 3:19 am

I Certainly hope so eric

Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 14, 2019 4:18 am

In five years or less, it will be ‘Who?’ when someone uses her name. She is no longer young and cute, no matter how her parental units try to hide it.

Peter Plail
Reply to  Sara
December 14, 2019 4:38 am

In five years or less it will be “What climate emergency? Put some more coal on the fire”

Reply to  Peter Plail
December 14, 2019 7:22 am

Next year. Stockpiling coal.

Reply to  Sara
December 14, 2019 8:38 am

12 years, surely? (Correction: 11.7)

Patrick MJD
Reply to  DrDweeb
December 14, 2019 6:28 pm

8.5 she said…she won’t get to drive a car for long because I am sure she will want a driver’s license.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 14, 2019 7:12 am

Greta’s future is so bright she’s gonna have to wear shades. Imagine the acclaim in progressive circles for the film “Greta’s Baby” (cf. “Rosemary’s Baby”) in which, as an underage child, she has sex with a pedophile ego-activist and gives birth to Satan’s spawn.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  icisil
December 14, 2019 9:16 am

You have issues.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
December 14, 2019 12:22 pm

I do have issues with progressives’ perversity. What I described is perfectly normal for their deconstructive worldview. Pedophilia? No problem. Satanism? No problem.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
December 14, 2019 1:09 pm

In retrospect, I should have worked bestiality into the plot as well. One of the new norms for the new left.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  icisil
December 15, 2019 4:03 pm

How about cutting it back a notch? It has been said that one is judged by the company that they keep. You aren’t doing the rest of us any favors. In other words, keep your kinky thoughts to yourself.

steve case
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 14, 2019 8:25 am

Comic relief?

I doubt that. A few years ago I thought Global Warming would crash, burn and be forgotten. It hasn’t. Dr. Peter Gleik didn’t fade. The polar bear issue has faded but only for good reason, and they don’t care anyway, Gleik does care however, so he gets a pass.

We live in depressing times. Or interesting times as some sages say. It’s going to get worse, a lot worse, before the majority of the world’s population becomes, to use the new lingo, woke. By that time vast resources will have been squandered on this insanity (religion).

Our grandchildren will be treated to wind farms rusting away across the landscape and learn in school that Republicans and big oil are responsible for the blight.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  steve case
December 15, 2019 4:16 am

“he polar bear issue has faded but only for good reason”

I saw an ad on tv last night from the WWF pushing the polar bear scare: ice melting, climate change, and then they ask for $8 a month to adopt a polar bear. The video was of a mother polar bear and her two cubs, who looked perfectly normal to me, but the ad said they were in dire straights.

Reply to  Loydo
December 14, 2019 3:09 am

No answer to the question asked. Typical. The answer is YES, that is all they’ve got! All they’ve got is their hate! This socialist democrat attempt to negate the election is DOA, just like the one before that!
Rep. Jim Jordan sums it up well.
The guy has had multiple packs of deep state, press, democrat, and never Trumper Chiwawas nipping at his ankles since he became the Republican nominee. There has been no let up. I’m frankly amazed he has gotten as much done as he has.

As I write this President Trump has had more of his judicial nominees confirmed than any president ever has in their first term with the exception of George Washington. There is a real possibility that the SCOTUS will only have 2 leftist justices left on it by the end of this presidents 2nd term. Thus the traditional path of the left of using their hacks in black to legislate from the bench what they could never get through congress or past a presidential veto is being dismantled and will most likely stay that way for decades to come.

The current administration is ending the trade imbalances that have been sucking the life blood out of the US economy for decades.

The total corruption of the FBI leadership has been exposed with more to come.

Labor lost bigly in Britain setting the stage for Brexit in some form to occur. What the form will be remains to be seen but what is clear is that our POTUS has their back. He has promised retaliatory tariffs on the EU if they try to make the conditions for Britain to leave too severe and is going to use trade with Britain as a weapon against the EU. So far it appears that the Torries are still consuming climate change cool aide in mass quantities but that could change too. BTW the initial reaction to the election results in Britain were exactly the same as they were here when Trump won. Protests becoming riots. The left never respects election results.

China, phase 1 deal to become a reality. Of course anyone with two functioning brain cells knows that China will cheat and that Team Trump will know it and punish them and a cycle of tariffs on and tariffs off will result. There will never be a full trade deal completed with China in the form that the press and Wall Street wants simply because the Chinese will never comply with all the provisions no matter what they sign or say and Trump and his team won’t let them get away with cheating.

The last time the US unemployment numbers were this good there was a military draft. And never have the numbers been so good for blacks or Hispanics.

For all these reasons and many more the left hates this man viscerally.

Reply to  Loydo
December 14, 2019 4:16 am

Loydo, sometimes you say very stupid things. This is only one of those times.

Thunberg is a puppet. She’s also a slob. Everyone here knows that except YOU, you sap. Even Trump knows that. When is that going to sink in?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Sara
December 14, 2019 9:24 am


Reply to  Clyde Spencer
December 14, 2019 11:38 am

I was being generous, Clyde. 🙂 I think he frequently posts his comments just to get attention. Besides, I did address him as “you sap”.

Have a nice Christmas, and stay warm and dry.

Reply to  Sara
December 14, 2019 8:43 pm

Puppet, slob, stupid, sap; arm-waving, insults and ad hom attacks. How Christian.
Merry Christmas to you too.

Reply to  Loydo
December 14, 2019 4:18 am

COP25 is unravelling at the seams and all she can do is blame the politicians. Those politicians are representing their voters as they demanded and if you have an issue Greta it is with us. Sorry we don’t really care what you and 10% of the leftist socialists think and we will do whatever we like because that is how a democracy works.

Reply to  Loydo
December 14, 2019 5:23 am

“combining Trump and Thunberg”

The combo. Excellent choice, sir. Your meal will be ready in a moment.

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Patrick MJD
Reply to  Loydo
December 14, 2019 5:39 am

“Loydo December 14, 2019 at 1:41 am”

You can’t see how she is being manipulated?

Reply to  Loydo
December 14, 2019 7:24 am

Hi loydo. What will it take to red pill you and get you to deal with facts and reality?

Robert W. Turner
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
December 14, 2019 9:04 am

The courage to let go of their lifelong beliefs that whatever the progressives do is right and whatever conservatives do is wrong, regardless of any facts or logic. It takes a fully developed adult brain to admit that you were wrong for years of your life, and since these simpleton types are in arrested development, that will likely never happen.

Notice how children seem to be getting their way more often and society is shifting evermore towards catering to children’s wants instead of their needs? That’s not because children are literally in charge, it’s because so many adults literally have childlike minds.

Robert W. Turner
Reply to  Loydo
December 14, 2019 8:58 am

Losing has become a way of life for some.

Reply to  Loydo
December 14, 2019 10:33 am

LoydoI have no ides which country you live in and I do not care .
Your whining is getting monotonous and if you took any notice of world news you would see that the socialist party in the UK ,Labour has just been given a hiding by the voters .
The politicians always think that they know better and when a state run referendum asks their government to leave the EU that is what the government should do ,including the opposition parties .
No political party can disregard what the majority of the voters want, and this is a lesson that has been learnt the hard way.
The Democrats are heading down the same path .
Trump was elected and the Democrats have been trying to impeach him for three years because he won.
The voters will turn on the Democrats the same as they have turned on Labour in the UK.
This is my prediction .

Reply to  Loydo
December 14, 2019 10:41 am

I see that Loydo’s unbeaten run of being clueless is intact, he doesn’t seem to realize Greta has offered nothing new under the sun, just the usual doomsday babble, that has been heard for decades now.

You seem to have little regard for evidence as you avoid them as does Greta, who never goes beyond Modeling fantasies in her low brow messages. Why not aim higher for enlightenment, then you will feel better and not be conned so easily next time.

Reply to  Loydo
December 14, 2019 2:38 pm

It really is sad how Loydo has completely given up on trying to make sense.

Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2019 5:35 pm

A quote from “Tropical Thunder” comes to mind ! 😉

Reply to  Loydo
December 14, 2019 3:14 pm

She’s talking to people like you Loydo. What have you done to get CO2 out of the atmosphere besides the square root of f-all. You, and the other people she’s talking to, think that your virtue signaling is good enough (posting tripe on WUWT, for example). When she says “How dare you”, it’s you she’s saying it to.

Patrick MJD
December 14, 2019 3:07 am

Thunberg “scowl” alert…how dare he!!!

Patrick MJD
December 14, 2019 3:10 am

How 16 year old needs so much “security” to be in the right place at the right time with the right face is just…unprecedented.

December 14, 2019 3:52 am

Greta actually had the most mature response to this, out of all the so-called adults out there:
She simply changed her Twitter profile to something along the lines of “working on anger issues and chilling out with friends watching a movie”, thus simply using Trump’s statement to describe herself. Sometimes I think she’d be fine if her toxic parents were separated from her and she had a normal set of parents not glory-seeking and prostituting their offspring to that end.

(Sweden is known for allowing and indulging children, to the logical end of ending up a violent, unlivable place. No spanking, no discipline. Wild animal children. Finland will now follow, as women are running it 100%.)

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Sheri
December 14, 2019 5:37 am

BINGO! Oh, I mean “WOKE”!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Sheri
December 14, 2019 5:38 am

“Sweden is known for allowing and indulging children, to the logical end of ending up a violent, unlivable place.”

I don’t think indulging children is the cause of violence in Sweden. It has something to do with them allowing those from a violent culture to enter their country.

Reply to  Sheri
December 14, 2019 6:51 am

I love how when Trump tweets, she changes her twitter profile to comply with his recommendations. I think she secretly loves him and yearns for a real man in her life.

Reply to  icisil
December 14, 2019 7:45 am

It wasn’t until she laid her eyes on him that realized what her life was missing.

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Jeff Alberts
Reply to  icisil
December 14, 2019 9:21 am

You really need to stop the sexual innuendo, sometimes not veiled at all. You’re not doing skeptics any favors.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
December 14, 2019 12:15 pm

No, not sexual in this case. Paternal. I guess I have to spell it out for people like you.

December 14, 2019 4:20 am

I despise people who manipulate children, especially impaired children like this one, into doing things that get cash out of them. What happens when the cameras go away and stay away and people say “Who?”?

Reply to  Sara
December 14, 2019 4:56 am

Greta’s scorn will be focused towards Mommy and Daddy like it was before they found out she was a valuable tool.

Peter Plail
December 14, 2019 4:34 am

Do they really think that is an insult? It sounds like the friendly advice most grown ups would give a petulant child. It is the sort of advice her parents should have given her years ago before letting her bunk off school.

Flight Level
December 14, 2019 4:48 am

Got to think of these, MadMax like movies, WaterWorld and so.

There’s always a deranged unclear borderline psychotic character played by a kid. Sort of implicit motivational superhero, unofficial copilot of the main absurdly positive hero.

Is there a pattern ?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Flight Level
December 14, 2019 9:23 am

That’s a stretch. There wasn’t such in Mad Max. nor in Waterworld.

Reply to  Flight Level
December 14, 2019 12:08 pm

I want to see someone photoshop Greta’s head onto the guy in this scene

December 14, 2019 5:16 am

It is very unlikely that anything we say here will be carried to Trump by his handlers… [does he actually listen to anyone?]
Regardless of your opinion of the man, it was suicidal to attack a person who is a Saint to many. We all wish the President of the United States to be successful, even accepting some policies we disagree with.

But… This was stupid! He destroys anything good he does or could do with his mouth and tweets. How could a mature human behave so childishly?

Tell the Big Golden Child to watch his mouth!

George Daddis
Reply to  Enginer01
December 14, 2019 6:48 am

How the heck is what DJT said an “attack”.
He correctly, with good nature, suggested the child dial back her rage and start enjoying life like other 16 year old.

The only people he may have turned off are those who already hate him. The rest appreciate that he said out loud what everyone else was thinking.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  George Daddis
December 15, 2019 4:29 am

“he [Trump] said out loud what everyone else was thinking.”

Trump does that a lot. The more, the better, as far as I’m concerned. 🙂

Reply to  Enginer01
December 14, 2019 7:16 am

What’s stupid is to allow the left to control the framing. Ignore their framing and demolish their images.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  icisil
December 15, 2019 4:38 am

“What’s stupid is to allow the left to control the framing.”

Republican congresscritters and Fox News Channel are prone to do that. The Left still controls the narrative and Republicans and Fox News bow to it.

If one were smart, they would distrust the narrative of the Left automatically. The truth is not in the Left. When you let them set the narrative, they are setting a false narrative. Repubicans and Fox News should not indulge the Left and their false narrative. False narratives should be debunked not embraced.

Reply to  Enginer01
December 14, 2019 11:05 am

Disagree. You scold him for NOT playing by THEIR rules – if he did so, they would have killed him LONG ago.

December 14, 2019 5:17 am

I think the gang at NOX has hit the nail on the head with a Friday Funny.
Trump is gone, cold, stone GONE.
He returned a VHS tape to a video rental store in 1991 – and did not rewind the tape.
If that is not an impeachable offence, what is?

Gerald Marquardt
Reply to  toorightmate
December 14, 2019 6:54 am

Stop exhaling CO2!!

Tom Abbott
December 14, 2019 5:51 am

From the article: “Is this really all they’ve got? Is the Democrat impeachment case so pathetic that they think citing President Trump insulting Greta will help boost support for their efforts?”

Yes, this *is* all they have. The House Democrats are abusing their political power. The Founding Fathers warned against political impeachments where one party impeaches the president of the opposition party, and that’s exactly the situation we find ourselves in today, thanks to the deranged Democrats.

This is a political assasination attempt on the part of the Democrats that is failing miserably, but in the process is harming the United States significantly. It’s a travesty of justice. It’s a Kangaroo Court. And it’s obvious to eveyone but the delusional radical Democrats.

The People will have the final say in this situation and I don’t think the People are going to be kind to the Democrats. The Democrats think they represent the majority of Americans, They are going to find out differently in November of 2020.

And as far as insults go, Trump’s comments about Greta were more in the vein of giving her some good advice than insulting her. Greta *would* benefit by “chilling”. And it *was* ridiculous for Time to put Greta on their cover. How about the Hong Kong democracy protestors? They don’t rate a mention? It’s all political which makes it all ridiculous.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 15, 2019 10:36 pm

After saying before the election that Trump was authoritarian, a dictator, a fascist (with many people saying he was literally as dangerous as Adolf H.), the anti Trump twitter brigade obsesses over… his taxes? Because nothing says “concern about authoritarian tendencies” better than willing to determine if a man abused the tax deduction mentioned in form XA4B3 that he couldn’t use because the sum was in line 43B9 and not 42B8.

December 14, 2019 7:11 am

While she was in the US DJT should have filed a complaint with a state level Child Protective Services office and had her taken into protective custody. Political leftists are the ones destroying her life and she needs protection before they push her into suicide for their sick, anti-human religion.

Steve Oregon
December 14, 2019 7:37 am

Democrats clearly think casting everything as offensive and outrageous will boost support for all of their notions and efforts.
But perhaps we are witnessing Peak Outrage?
I doubt it.
More likely it will worsen by magnitudes for years to come.
It’s like they are using horizontal pondering and thought fracturing to pump up an endless supply.

Andy Pattullo
December 14, 2019 8:00 am

“gretafied”: a state of inmate smugness and self satisfaction that comes from joining a cult and suspending all rational thought. Not to be confused with “beatified” which refers to being the leader of a cult.

Reply to  Andy Pattullo
December 14, 2019 9:08 am

Speaking of “peak outrage”, that clown who thought Guam was going to capsize just basically waanted to impeach POTUS for being too tall … you can’t make this stuff up.

December 14, 2019 8:20 am

Any political candidate who would use the word, “attack”, to make a case about wrongdoing, is a flat-out hypocrite. Why do I say this? ANSWER: Three words — negative campaign ads. Talk about attack!

As if this sort of “attacking” isn’t standard operating procedure, long accepted, long tolerated by many many people. Come on, this is so pathetic! — to use an instance of somebody’s doing what is always done, as if nobody ever does it.

… same with the supposed criminal phone conversation at the heart of the impeachment crap.

I think we should institute a new procedure called “retro-impeachment” and carry it out on the former president. Maybe a new procedure called “faux impeachment” for people like Hillary, which probably would qualify as “retro-faux-impeachment”. Well, I keep thinking of other variations, for which I have not figured out a good name.

For instance, what do we call impeaching a person trying to run for president who exhibits all the signs of being stupid? Help me out here.

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
December 14, 2019 11:45 am

“…what do we call impeaching a person trying to run for president who exhibits all the signs of being stupid?”

Uhhmmmm…. that would be impeaching Bernie Sanders. I don’t think “A” the Occasionally-Conscious will be willing to wait until she’s 35, either, so you could put her in that category, too.

December 14, 2019 9:08 am

Clausewitz said that “War is the continuation of Politics by other means”

In modern warfare it is a War Crime to use women and children as “human shields”

Therefore I hold that the Climate Extremists are committing such a crime against Thunberg by using her as a human shield to suppress thoughtful and lawful opposition to their political objectives. She is a minor at 16 years old and has diminished legal capacity, and well as emotional and intellectual capacity to truly consent to what she is being “groomed” for.

Bill Taylor
December 14, 2019 9:46 am

in agreeing to hear 3 cases yesterday the supreme court confirmed the second article of impeachment is pure BS, they SC ruled indeed a president CAN deny access to private communications to congress.

December 14, 2019 11:28 am

As has been said, the liberal media regularly puts forth “challenged” people that they figure can’t be criticized. Trump properly “trumped” them on it. No one is above criticism, especially when their preaching is purposely put on prime-time display in the fake-media.

December 14, 2019 11:41 am

It is sad, or perhaps funny, to see the Democrat Party implode. It is almost an embarrassment that from 300+ million people, the best they can do is come up with a few brain dead Socialist/Marxist’s. And Bloomberg will just set them all off, and they will be fighting like cats and dogs. It is going to be entertaining to watch the Democrats further descend into political irrelevancy. This is Trump’s election to lose. I hope he throws his professional switch on soon, and changes the channel on them talking about high crimes and misdemeanours. He needs to start talking about making some great deals that we need to make to make the world a better, safer and more prosperous place. The better off everyone is, and the busier everyone else is making money, the less time anyone wants to think about fighting. But the world has to play by the same rules, and we need someone to enforce this which Trump is doing.

There is so many other problems to solve, of which climate change is the least of all the problems. Building infrastructure to aid and protect civilization from inclement weather is always the prudent thing to do. Why are the Democrats blocking this administration from major infrastructure improvements? Some of which will ensure we withstand the worst the weather will throw at us, which these alarmist Democrats now try and claim is man made climate change but is just normal every day inclement weather we have always had. And destroy our economy and democratic order in ushering in this corrupt form of global Marxism, by blaming all this climate change on the the miracle molecule of life, CO2.

This is all like water off a duck anyway with Trump, so he should avoid falling into their trap responding to the bizarre impeachment filed by some anonymous 3rd hand account that a lot of people are now seeing just as sour grapes by disgruntled losers. Time to put your best foot forward President Trump, change the channel and throw the switch and become the professional you that are capable of being, and show the world why we need you at the helm for another 4 years. Let’s make some deals!

December 14, 2019 12:26 pm

Unbelievable, look at these words from the mouth of St Greta “… Greta Thunberg tells cheering crowd ‘we will make sure we put world leaders against the wall’ if they do not tackle global warming as she attends climate protest in Turin, …”. …

Reply to  goldminor
December 14, 2019 11:20 pm

As a reminder what happens when ignorant, idealistic and dangerously motivated children/youths are let loose.

Power Grab
December 14, 2019 1:22 pm

Greta is an actress:

Her grandfather is also an actor:

Wait–there’s more:

OK. Check this out:

Leo DiCaprio played Arnie Grape in “What’s Eating Gilbert Grape?” in 1993. When I first saw that movie, I thought they had found an actor who really was marginally handicapped, because his portrayal was so convincing. But no, he was just an outstanding young actor!

So there is precedent.

Let’s see how it’s done (roping someone into the life of an actor):

Another one comes to mind:

I’m not convinced Greta is on the spectrum. But her facial features do match those of a person with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

Gary Seven
December 14, 2019 2:00 pm

Greta Thunberg has been created as a Grammaton Cleric (see movie Equilibrium for meaning) who was contracted to assassinate anyone’s character that is out of sorts with the Club of Rome set. She is a child shield that weak and cowardly people use to hide behind. She is the spiked dog collar that the Marxist progenitors of nihilism wear to ward off objective pushback against their lockstep groupthink. She is the spokestroll of dystopia. This marks the desperate attempt that they will try to coerce the world’s billions into downsizing their dreams and hopes and aspirations into a matchbox of pure minimalist depression. How crudely sad they all must be.

December 14, 2019 8:51 pm

“Senator Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) let the cat out of the bag in a hearing on Thursday, expressing outrage that President Trump would ridicule Time Magazine choosing Greta Thunberg as person of the year.”

A classic red herring strawman distraction while flinging ad hominems. Total logical fallacies.

David Cage
December 14, 2019 10:24 pm

Trumps is being hounded for fighting back against the all powerful climate change is man made lobby. Renewable energy is not just a financial scam it is a political one to replace even the poor standard of democracy with a pure and unadulterated kleptocracy.

It doesn't add up...
December 15, 2019 2:20 pm

The way I follow the Trump impeachment story is via the betting markets. Whilst the odds of him completing his term (now mainly reflecting the possibility of sudden ill health or assassination), being nominated for the Republican ticket, and being the winner next year continue to drift marginally in his favour I know there is no real chance of impeachment. Only a sharp change in the betting would have me reading up the details, thus saving a lot of grief and wasted effort.

December 23, 2019 10:44 am

Dumbest post ever on WUWT.

1) Irrelevant to climate, science, earth, sense, reason, sobriety, sanity… what else?

2) Greta is a shrill, unattractive, misguided euro-nanny twerp. But stirring her into the disgrace of our disgraceful President being allowed to continue disgracing his office isn’t even funny enough to be a humor post.

Anyone with morals, a brain, and the ability to intake factual information and process it objectively knows exactly why DJT is being impeached. And anyone who can add patriotism into the preceding list should be ashamed at the craven cowards who will soon officially allow him to continue debasing the ideals this country was founded on.

I usually like Worrall’s (on-topic) posts. Have I not been paying close enough attention?

TIP: If you get your news and information from a single source and/or never listen to the “other side” of any topic, you are not informed or qualified to seriously debate any topic. You are an ideologue (or sheep, your choice).

Happy Festivus!

Reply to  takebackthegreen
December 24, 2019 8:59 am

And here is a tip for you, don’t like something don’t read it and toddle along with your self-hate and misery. The Donald will not be impeached because Nannee Pelosi will never send the articles to the Senate because they will, correctly, throw them in the toilet. The Donald will be reelected in a landslide like nothing ever seen in American history and you will cry&wail till he leaves office, triumphantly, at the end of that term. The Federal Government is getting the enema it has needed for decades, the Federal Judiciary is already being rebuilt to America standards and there is nothing you leftists can do about it.

Merry Christmas! #4more

Reply to  2hotel9
December 24, 2019 10:51 pm

I’d rather read something and gain knowledge than ignore everything that doesn’t echo my exact current worldview. I have self confidence. I don’t need to live in a pack of yes men. I’d rather go find somebody who doesn’t agree with a thing I say, but can talk about it like an adult and maybe convince me of something. I’m not right about everything. I’ve been wrong many times. See? The world doesn’t end. And this: I don’t think you are evil because you went bananas in a comment thread. Still spinning…

Sorry you’re so angry about whatever you are angry about. As an American who cares about the country in the same way our Founders did, I can’t back someone who invites the exact betrayal that Madison and Hamilton and co. were most concerned about. As citizens, our power is expressed in one way only. There was nothing more important to the Founders than free and fair elections. Nothing.

If you don’t care that POTUS tried to cheat in an election, that’s your right. And when the next Democrat President also attempts to rob you of your only chance to be heard, guess what? I am a patriot and sane person. So I will demand that Democrat be removed from office too.

I don’t know you and I don’t care about you. I do care about your right to vote for whoever you want and have that vote count.

Reply to  takebackthegreen
December 25, 2019 9:31 am

Really? Multiple investigations clearly show Donald Trump did not do anything to effect the outcome of the election beyond simply winning it. No collusion, no crimes, no ballot stuffing, not a f**king thing other than being the superior candidate. So keep telling yourself lies, keep being bitter and filled with self-hate and loathing. As for the Founding Fathers, they knew that lying scumbags like the Democrat Party would try to subvert America and you are failing due to the structures they put in place. In closing, the climate changes, constantly, humans are not causing it and can not stop it and Donald Trump will be reelected in a tsunami of American citizens rejecting your sick leftist ideology. And there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop us.

Merry Christmas

Reply to  2hotel9
December 25, 2019 5:30 pm

Make a list of everything that would need to happen in order for you to be completely happy.

I hope all of them occur.

Argue with that.


Reply to  takebackthegreen
December 25, 2019 6:11 pm

Ahh, you gonna cry now? Stamp your effeminate little feet. Go scream at the sky, thats all you can do.

MAGA #4more

Reply to  2hotel9
December 25, 2019 6:56 pm

Well, I probably won’t cry RIGHT now. But we’re gonna watch “Bad Santa” in a little while; and when Thurman gives Billy Bob the wooden pickle after he walks in on Billy and Mrs. Santa about to smash, I usually can’t hold back at least a couple sniffles.

Hmmm. Not sure where feet came from? Very common fetish? Also, I think you meant “stomp” not “stamp,” unless you’re thinking of one of those stamps they use on your wrist when you go into a club, but stamped on my feet instead? Effeminate? Man, that would be a lot easier. My job requires me to wear boots for 24 hrs at a time. If you don’t do some maintenance: C-a-l-l-o-u-s-e-s. Who likes that s**t? Maybe if mine were smaller and more womanly, I wouldn’t have to get pedicures as often to keep from cutting up the sheets at night, know what I’m saying?

Okay. Screaming at the sky sounds pretty cool. What time of day do you recommend? I kinda feel like people would be less likely to call the cops where I live if I did it between sunrise and maybe 1100 hours. Afternoon, nighttime… people can get really cranky. I KNOW you understand that. Right?

All I can do? Which one? Cry? Stamp? Scream? I don’t think you really thought that one all the way through. I mean, clearly I can also type, read (a form of) English, find humor in the odd writings of an anonymous person, entertain myself trying to imagine what’s on the other end of this exchange, and bang out a reply while pretending to listen to Aunt B— yack about something. AND I can do it all under 5 minutes.

What else ya’ got for me, 2hotel?

If it’s just that you want the last word, that’s totally cool, too. Just say it. Otherwise, we can keep this going. I never get tired of hushpuppying. You know what hushpuppies are? Doesn’t matter. I can’t swear I’ll always be quick on the reply, depending on my schedule. But I’ll do my best.

PS–It’s xmas. I’m a giver. Let me help you out: So, if you sign your post with “MAGA,” which means “Make America Great Again,” that implies you don’t think–with DJT in charge–America is currently great. That’s probably not the message you’re trying to put out there. You’re welcome.

Reply to  takebackthegreen
December 27, 2019 5:17 am

Ahh, poor little Trump hater has diarrhea of the keyboard. You are losing, America is winning. No matter what lies you vomit onto the intrawebs thingy you can’t change that.

MAGA #4more

Reply to  takebackthegreen
December 27, 2019 7:34 pm

“If you don’t care that POTUS tried to cheat in an election, that’s your right.”

And therein lies your delusion. Like the audience at a conjuror’s show, you are looking in the wrong direction. You have built your position on a lie, a complete lack of substance and subsequently it is also incorrect.

Since it was Christmas and I decided to do a bit of reading, I read the following 5 books, to add to my already extensive reading on the subject.

Ball of Collusion: The Plot to Rig an Election and Destroy a Presidency – Andrew McCarthy
The plot against the President – Lee Smith
Unfreedom of the Press – Mark Levin
How Trump Won: The Inside Story of a Revolution – Joel Pollack & Larry Schweickart
Loserthink – Scott Adams

No-one, having read these very well researched works can reach any other conclusions than that (1) the US Main Stream Media are the unabashed, proud and dangerous propaganda arm of the DNC and all things “progressive”, (2) that the the US Intelligence Community (FBI, CIA, FISC etc.) have some very serious ethical problems in the leadership (and the list of the fired, otherwise departed and “the likely soon to be indicted” is long and growing), (3) Russia’s “meddling” was insignificant, inconsequential and independent of the Trump campaign, and (4) the only thing Donald J Trump is guilty of is being Donald J Trump – warts and all.

The US Media, regurgitated by the European media as well, has lied to the American public on a grand scale and done so at the direct behest of the DNC and the misguided and criminal elements of the intelligence community who together have maintained a continuous supply of “leaks” and disinformation to feed their false narrative.

The entire 2 years of “Russia Collusion” was an elaborate lie without any basis in fact.

I trust all of you had a Merry Christmas
“Be good, do kind, do all you can that’s right and we’ll all be back in 2020”

December 27, 2019 5:18 am

Oh, and for someone claiming to be so upset about something you deem inappropriate on a webpage you can’t help adding to it. What a hypocrite you are, typical leftard.

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