Angry, Whiny, Self-Righteous High-school Dropout Picked as Time Magazine’s Person of the Year

Climate Crusader Greta Thunberg’s Halo – source Twitter

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

I guess this was inevitable.

2019 PERSON OF THE YEAR GRETA THUNBERG

BY CHARLOTTE ALTER, SUYIN HAYNES AND JUSTIN WORLANDPHOTOGRAPHS BY EVGENIA ARBUGAEVA FOR TIME

Greta Thunberg sits in silence in the cabin of the boat that will take her across the Atlantic Ocean. Inside, there’s a cow skull hanging on the wall, a faded globe, a child’s yellow raincoat. Outside, it’s a tempest: rain pelts the boat, ice coats the decks, and the sea batters the vessel that will take this slight girl, her father and a few companions from Virginia to Portugal. For a moment, it’s as if Thunberg were the eye of a hurricane, a pool of resolve at the center of swirling chaos. In here, she speaks quietly. Out there, the entire natural world seems to amplify her small voice, screaming along with her.

“We can’t just continue living as if there was no tomorrow, because there is a tomorrow,” she says, tugging on the sleeve of her blue sweatshirt. “That is all we are saying.”

Thunberg is 16 but looks 12. She usually wears her light brown hair pulled into two braids, parted in the middle. She has Asperger’s syndrome, which means she doesn’t operate on the same emotional register as many of the people she meets. She dislikes crowds; ignores small talk; and speaks in direct, uncomplicated sentences. She cannot be flattered or distracted. She is not impressed by other people’s celebrity, nor does she seem to have interest in her own growing fame. But these very qualities have helped make her a global sensation. Where others smile to cut the tension, Thunberg is withering. Where others speak the language of hope, Thunberg repeats the unassailable science: Oceans will rise. Cities will flood. Millions of people will suffer.

I want you to panic,” she told the annual convention of CEOs and world leaders at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, in January. “I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. And then I want you to act.

Read more: https://time.com/person-of-the-year-2019-greta-thunberg/

She’s been lied to so much, she probably really does feel that fear.

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308 thoughts on “Angry, Whiny, Self-Righteous High-school Dropout Picked as Time Magazine’s Person of the Year

  1. This comment is not directed at any person in particular. It is a generalization:

    What does a true-blue believer in the climate crisis get on an IQ test?
    Drool.

    Regards,
    Bob

    • In Greta’s case, it’s spittle because she doesn’t know how to STFU.

      One of the most important Life lessons for any teenager is to learn is when to shut up and listen. Without that, the outcome is a person like AOC. AOC is embarrassingly ignorant on just about any academic subject one could name, yet doesn’t know how to shut up and actually learn something. Because she failed to learn that life skill as teen.

      Basically acquiring critical thinking skills comes from learning. Lots of learning.
      And you can’t learn if you can’t STFU.
      When all Greta does is run her mouth, regurgitating what she has been told by manipulating adults without thought, then it is nothing but emotions flowing from her thoughts. And that will not serve her well into adulthood.

      • In the military we had several expressions related to learning and knowledge:

        W.A.I.T. (Why Am I Talking).

        and

        Never give up an opportunity to STFU

        • “and the sea batters the vessel that will take this slight girl, her father and a few companions from Virginia to Portugal”

          where did her “father” come from ???….and how did he get there

        • A few more sayings — non-military:

          The first step to wisdom is silence
          — the second is listening.
          .
          Wise men think without talking;
          fools talk without thinking.
          .
          A wise man has something to say;
          a fool has to say something.
          .
          The truth of a matter,
          is not determined by
          how many people believe it.

          Smart, is when you believe
          only half of what you hear
          — brilliant, is when you know
          which half to believe.

          • Advice (too late, I’m afraid) for Greta:
            “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.”
            — unknown (variously misattributed to Abraham Lincoln or Mark Twain)

          • I like to add to Woody Allen’s comment that 85% of success is showing up, that there’s another 10% for paying attention.

          • I was surprised when I found myself agreeing with the first two statements Greta made at the U.N.

            “I shouldn’t even be here!”
            “I should be in school!”

            Advise to Greta: Listen to yourself.
            With love, R.G.

      • Joel: If she’s a good little progressive and the progressives continue to rule the world, it will serve her well. It will not serve her well when the inevitable collapse comes and she becomes a subject to the overlords she helped usher in. Dictators will not tolerate such mouthiness. Greta, AOC and many others will be the first to go when their communist “utopia” is brought to full force. If Greta is worried about planetary destruction, no future and a great extinction, maybe the mouthy child should check the mirror for one of the biggest and loudest cheerleaders for that outcome.

        • Right on. All progressives think they are the ones who will be fine when the revolution comes, but most will be the first to be purged. Their biggest blind spot is to history.

      • “AOC is embarrassingly ignorant on just about any academic subject one could name”

        Yes. She is truly clueless.

          • Well, on this subject, there have been comparisons made to the attractiveness of Donkey in the Shreck movies . . . just saying . . .

      • We shouldn’t really be talking about Greta Thunberg the person.

        Has anyone in this thread ever had a conversation with her? I bet not. She’s tightly controlled by her handlers on social media. It’s obvious she doesn’t write her own social media posts. She’ll never respond to a post disagreeing with her. Yet the rabble who follow her probably will.

        The real issue should be
        — who are these adults so thick that they follower her?
        — how should smart people respond to fake grassroots politics?

        Fake grassroots politics define the green movement. An entire political movement dedicated to stopping something which isn’t happening.

    • I would bet dollars to doughnuts that if we gave all of the skeptics and all the true believers* an IQ test and tests that measure how much actual knowledge a person is in possession of, we would see a very stark contrast.
      They are not as smart and they know less.

      *The ones in it for fame or money do not count.

      • Please do not confuse nor merge IQ and Knowledge. They are very different from each other in unique ways.

        An individual can be book smart(knowledge) and have very limited understanding of the applications of that knowledge. It is an individual’s IQ that relates facts and knowledge into new ideas.

        • And having a high IQ doesn’t always mean the person has any common sense either….IQ, book knowledge and common sense often do not go hand in hand!
          For example, Marilyn Von Savant, who is (or was at one time) the world record holder for highest IQ, believes in CAGW. And Stephen Hawking believed in it too…

      • Luckily for you, IQ tests do not measure “how much actual knowledge a person is in possession of.”

    • Bob,

      I know some very intelligent people who fully believe in the CAGW scam. They are not at all stupid, and a few are very well informed too, actually having read the IPCC actual reports, unlike most.

      I don’t understand why, however.

      • Yes, deciding those holding opinions different from your own are doing so because they are stupid and ignorant is a pretty ignorant and stupid position. Neither is it likely to convince anyone your are right.

        Thunberg is 16 but looks 12.

        Interestingly, the Time cover image ( which you don’t show here ) has here hair untied, staring mystically into the wind on a rocky coast ( rising sea level message ? ) . Are here handlers trying to get away from the juvenile Hansel and Gretal imagery?

      • “I know some very intelligent people who fully believe in the CAGW scam. They are not at all stupid, and a few are very well informed too, actually having read the IPCC actual reports, unlike most.

        I don’t understand why, however.”

        I think that’s the “$64,000.00” question: How can an otherwise intelligent person be so wrong?

        I don’t understand why, either. Things that seem obvious to me are not obvious to others even though some of those others are very smart people.

        It’s like the political Left and the Right and their completely opposite views of Trump.

        One side is right and one side is wrong on both climate change and Trump. I haven’t seen anthing that says my position is wrong, whereas, I have seen many things that say those of opposite views are wrong.

        I think propaganda and groupthink are just some aspects of life that are very hard to sift through for some people and it doesn’t matter how intelligent you are, you can be fooled into taking the wrong side of an argument.

        And then there are the deliberate liars. But that’s a whole other subject. Their motivations are much easier to figure out.

        • In a word “belief”. You can present all the facts you want but once someone chooses to “believe” nothing will get them to change. The fact that belief is not allowed in the scientific method (and consensus) yet is very prominent in their wording shows that they are not basing their position on science.

          When you hear questions and statements like “Do you believe in climate change?” and the infamous “You are just a denier” it clearly shows. My favorite replies are “What does believing have to do with science?” and “What is the opposite of denier? A believer. What does believing have to do with science?”.

          I point out that the scientific method is predictions, predictions and more predictions. If you say “falsifiable” or “repeatable” you lose a lot of them but they get the above. Then ask them “What predictions have been correct that got you to hold the position you currently do?”.

          • “In a word “belief”.

            Most CAWG True Believers couldn’t tell you what a climate proxy is, but they could tell you their birth sign, colour of aura, the best chiropractor in the ‘hood and the best price for homeopathic medicine.

            In my local FB group (good for restaurant reviews, etc.), the Usual Suspects are all over commenting on the “climate emergency” threads…then also on the “Reiki for Pets” thread.

            And, unfortunately, they vote (and too many of them are teachers…)

        • Not well read, but well indoctrinated. If they were well read they would be skeptics.

          There is a reason it is called “parroting”, it doesn’t require high intelligence.

      • Everyone is stup-id, just on different subjects. Me too, yesterday at a restaurant:

        My wife’s female relative, who I just met, spent five minutes talking about “bags”. To me a “bag” is something you get at a supermarket to hold groceries. And she talked about going to a store in Paris looking for a “Berkin Bag”.

        I never heard of Berkin , so I assumed Berkin was the name of a Paris clothing store. And she must have wanted a canvas tote bag with the store’s (Berkin) name on it. I thought maybe she could not get one because customers had to make a significant purchase to get a free tote bag.

        Meaning I was totally clueless on the “bag” subject … just like the woman was on the subject of climate change, in an earlier conversation with me. I had asked her to send some “global warming”
        from California to Michigan, where it was very cold. I also told her the world was NOT going to end in 12 years — but it was obvious she doubted me — so I continued by saying there were only eight years left, and she was happy again. She’s from California, or course.

    • Hi Bob, here is the problem; Medical Researchers no longer utilize the term “Asperger Syndrome” as functional MRI studies show the brain wave movement into sectors of the brain disrupted where reality checks should register as a high-functioning Autism. Greta may actually have a high IQ, but getting it focused into a reality-checked, coherent, rational, balanced thought may be difficult for her, and the feedback she is getting confirm her importance instead of getting treatment for her condition. For instance, both Greta and Al Gore slammed BREXIT at the COP25 event, and what in the heck does either know about this, however, it may show where their interests are, ie, World Government.

      • “For instance, both Greta and Al Gore slammed BREXIT at the COP25 event, and what in the heck does either know about this, however, it may show where their interests are, ie, World Government.”

        Yes, it sounds like both are pushing a socialist agenda at COP25.

        I’m not going to criticize Greta. I consider her to be an abused child whose head has been filled with leftwing garbage which has scared her to death for real, and she is reacting to this fear. If we really thought the world was going to end in 10 or 12 years, we would be screaming at people, too. So people should take it easy on Greta. She is being used by some very stupid and, in some cases, some very unscrupulous people.

        • Most notably her parents.

          My child has anxiety (clinically diagnosed). She has been to therapy (individual and group) and I saw the kids in that group. Without being mean some are very, very messed up. That is unfortunate and I don’t post that to cast aspersions, it is merely an observation.

          Were I to have seen one of those parents of the children in that group doing something actively to worsen their child’s anxiety it is quite likely that the first time I saw it I would have pulled them aside and suggested aggressively that I would not tolerate a second instance. Had I witnessed a second instance I would have caused said adult significant anxiety of the physical variety.

          Greta is a high functioning child on the spectrum. This is not a secret. She clearly has anxiety issues which are very, very real to her. Rather than try to address these rationally, her parents and handlers are functionally and quite literally abusing her. This in my mind is pretty classic Munchausen-by-proxy abuse and the world is lapping it up. That makes me tremendously sad.

          Why are the parents/handlers doing this? All the usual reasons: fame, fortune, exposure, agenda. The child is nothing more than a tool to achieve a variety of goals. So very sad.

          • As soon as she has outlived her usefulness, she will disappear. A poster at another blog pointed to Cindy Sheehan and Sandra Fluke as examples.

            I feel bad for Greta since she has issues and is being exploited abusively. I’m not sure how she’ll react when she sees the light.

          • Yes, it is tragic that people, especially Cindy Sheehan who lost a son, are exploited for political purposes.

            I would add the kids from Parkland who were in the spotlight for their 15 seconds as well.

    • The replies to my comment above answered a question for me. The question: Should I spend the time to prepare a post in which I update for the climate crisis and extinction rebellion a bunch of old politically incorrect jokes? The answer was obviously no. Even if they are qualified (that it had nothing to do with Greta) as I had in that comment.

      • The answer was obviously no.

        Maybe your sample size is too small.

        I vote yes on the politically incorrect joke post.

    • The TIME (amazed they are still in business) magazine award prompted me to award the 2019 Honest Global Warming Chart Blog Buffoon of the Year to Greta “Thunderberg” this morning. … AOC was runner-up.
      https://elonionbloggle.blogspot.com/2019/12/climate-buffoon-of-year-2019-greta.html

      Mr. Tisdale, there is a real climate crisis, and we skeptics should not forget that fact: The real climate crisis is the gross overreaction, and spending, in response to an imaginary “coming” climate crisis … that is always coming, since the late 1950s (Roger Revelle), but never shows up.

      Hint: A new Tisdale article ALWAYS improves the quality of this website !

    • Not sure whether to be proud or ashamed but I heard the headline on the radio and immediately thought Greta. My runner up would have been AOC.

    • I have written this comment twice before on WUWT posts on Greta:

      “I completely agree that her being made a symbol of our eminent demise is ridiculous and terrible.

      However, it is my understanding that as a younger child she was diagnosed with Asperger’s disease (currently lumped in with the all inclusive “autism spectrum disorder” [ASD] by our brilliant and wonderfully effective mental health community ) that is characterized by being intelligent, but overly obsessive, compulsive and lacking in abilities to interact socially. Once these people get something in their heads, it tends to stay there obsessively.
      If this is true, then she is to be pitied as a tool of the warmists and they and her artist parents should be charged with child abuse.”

      I stand by this comment as even more information about the “dark” money from organizations that exploited this unfortunate handicapped teenager for their “save the earth” cause comes out. When the end justifies the means, the end always gets corrupted.

      • I worked with an obsessive compulsive, a lovely guy and really quite bright. But there certain jobs he could not be allowed to do – being in the airline industry, it was, at the time, necessary to complete a weight and balance ( or trim) sheet to present to the captain prior to take off.
        If we allowed this guy to do it, the aircraft would have been delayed for hours while checked and double-checked the figures! In fact, he even laughed at himself after the time other staff caught him checking the carbon copy of the daily cash reconciliation after he had totalled it on the top sheet. Now that’s obsessive!

    • Have some sympathy folks, she is the chosen one after all, and you know this will end badly for her in some way.

      In the end, the left always eats their own.

  2. Shamelessly stolen from the web, regarding Scoldilocks being named TIME Magazine Person Of The Year:

    “Name a better representative of 2019 than a petulant child screaming ineffectually about politics beyond their understanding or control.”

    w.

    • Great quotation.

      I’ve said before that a temperamental adolescent with OCD who has been brainwashed from birth is a perfect figurehead for a movement with collective OCD.

    • Willis Eschenbach … 10:24 pm
      Scoldilocks

      Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

      First chuckle of the day.

    • No. Hypocrisy is the one thing I will not accuse her of.

      What I would like to see is everyone, and I mean everyone, who has permitted, encouraged, profited from this charade prosecuted for child abuse. They know what they are doing and they know just how immoral it is.

      • She is 16. She either is a hypocrite or a poster child for doublethink. She is called a child, but she’s not a child. At 16, in spite of the medical community’s infantization of humans and claiming they are not adults till they are 30, human beings are fully formed by 16. It is society that keeps them children, not nature. Stop cutting the brat slack because “she’s a child”. I agree she is a used and abused child, but society can’t stop that without massive loss of freedom. Do you really want your government raising your child, because that’s what you are asking for. I don’t like what Greta’s parents did to her, but if we use the government to stop it, we can use the government to stop “deniers” from teaching their kids about real science, we have to go with drag queen story hour, kindergarteners get taught “self-pleasuring”, etc. I will not give the government that much unfettered power just to “save Greta”. Maybe someone should have cared BEFORE the schools were taken over by crazy people. It’s far to late now. A revolution would be required and I do not see that happening.

        • Granted that people aged 16 can and do function as adults, and girls mature sooner than boys. For that matter, kids as young as six are capable in extremis of surviving on their own. But human skulls don’t knit until age 25 and brains don’t achieve maturity until about 35.

          The Framers of the Constitution were wise.

          • Not too many adults eat Tide pods, for instance.

            And most of those who survive adolescence learn to slow down when driving, at least when sober.

          • John: You’re going with the medicalization aspect. Before we knew all this useless “science”, we looked at behavior and social norms. As noted by others, in the past 16 year olds were considered mostly adult. The biology is not what determined that—society did. They taught children to grow up fast. They didn’t live in Mom’s basement till they were forty. We have infantilized humans and treated them like complete losers. THAT is the immoral act. (Consider that 25 year olds stay on their parents insurance besides living in the basement and refusing to grow up. As time goes by, I predict “science” will declare immaturity exists until 60, and 80 year olds will be working and trying to hold together the “child” society.)

          • The Marine Corps used to prefer 17 year old non high school graduates, as more maleable and ready to storm defended beaches.

            Modern war is such that more maturity and education are now considered preferable. And the mission has changed from amphibious landings to urban combat.

            Sociology matters, but IMO biology still rules.

          • Well, Sheri, it’s been said that boys don’t grow up, they just get bigger and their toys more expensive.

        • She will be 17 on January 3 and I’ll wish her a happy birthday and hope that someday she’ll grow and be able to deal with her disappointment at being used which she eventually will realize.

          Nevertheless, she is experiencing accolades and experiences of which most people can only dream. Monetarily at least, she has no basis to claim a stolen childhood. I hope that she will be able to spend some time in the Congo, Inner Mongolia, perhaps Xinjiang. She could become a force for good at some point.

          • …to a man in his 20s who was widowed by childbirth…whose father is the oldest man in the village at 50.

          • True, but still not necessarily fully mature mentally.

            OTOH, even 16 year-old males were entrusted with responsibilities in the Middle Ages and antiquity. In 1403, as Prince of Wales, ~16 year-old Henry V led a major group of men in battle at Shrewsbury, where he took an arrow in the face. Alexander’s first victory was at age 18.

          • Miyamoto Musashi, the sword saint of Japan, and Sitting Bull, of Custer’s Last Stand fame, both killed their first opponent in battle at the age of 14.

          • John, many times maturity comes after responsibility.
            A life without responsibilities is a life in which one never grows up.

          • True that maturity depends upon responsibility, but there are also biological changes in brain with age.

            Mathematicians and physicists often do their best work in their 20s, but that doesn’t mean that the same people should be making decisions affecting millions of people.

        • I started full-time work, one week after my 16th birthday (as a junior clerk) and worked with responsible adults who allowed me to develop and mature. I was given responsibility, but with benign supervision. Keeping kids at school and giving them meaningless degrees in various “Humanities” subjects doesn’t prepare them for the real world. Once I matured, I was able to choose study streams suited to my career. Which led to 14 years of part-time studies in Marketing and Business Economics.

          The best work resume I ever received was from a guy who had joined the Navy at 15 and recently been de-mobbed. Couldn’t wait to work, did whatever was required and didn’t understand why other staff queried reasonable directions. He was smart, presentable and enthusiastic and, when I retired, was my recommended replacement as Regional Manager.

    • I can see now why a young male would be tempted to be an activist – no,no stop talking, love. You’re spoiling everything.

    • Hypocrite implies that you know what the right thing is and choose to hide that in order to get some other goal. Or, espousing one idea but doing something else for your self( Algore, still doing it).

      I don’t think Ms. Greta understands enough about what is going on to be a hypocrite. Her parents, adult friends, and others certainly do and coach her performances for their own ends. It’s one of the most abusive forms of behavior possible.

    • Every person, excepting One, that has ever existed is a hypocrite and a liar; we are imbued by sin at birth. That is why all mankind needs a savior – Jesus.
      We don’t need saving from socialist scams like AGW/CAGW, we need saving from our innate sin.

  3. Greta will be seventeen this january but she looks like an eleven year old, so she can avoid critical questions about the collapsing ecosystems and the dying people.

        • To whom? About as offensive as using a child to spread alarmist propaganda? Syndrome implies genetic issues.

          • About as offensive as using a child to spread alarmist propaganda?

            I agree, Patrick, Greta is being used. I think initially by her parents and now by people with a vested interest in continuing this farce.

            Two wrongs, however, do not make a right.

            Attacking somebody because they have a mental illness is reprehensible and simply stoops to the same level as the warmanistas.

            In my book Chaswarnertoos comment was offensive. We can disagree on this, but I still find it offensive to attack anybody for these reasons.

            I have no problem with people saying she’s a sock puppet whos scripted talks come directly from her mothers’ arse.

            BTW, Greta does not show the signs of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome as far as I can see.

          • “I have no problem with people saying she’s a sock puppet whos scripted talks come directly from her mothers’ arse.”

            That may not be offensive but it is nothing but a false, unsupported smear.

          • Syndrome implies genetic issues.

            That is not what syndrome means. Syndrome is a collection of symptoms. This is often used to identify a condition for which the pathogen has not been identified. A disease requires a known pathogen.

            since alcohol is clearly identified as the cause here, I’m not sure why it is called a syndrome. Probably some attempt at being politically correct and not overtly accusing a mother of giving her child brain damage through drug abuse.

          • “Loydo December 12, 2019 at 1:16 am”

            Maybe not her mother, but certainly her German “guide”. Smear that!

          • “Greg December 12, 2019 at 1:39 am”

            Apart from those inherited, which most are, ie, genetic. Trust me I know what I am talking about, tinnitus, psoriasis and haemochromatosis.

          • ‘That may not be offensive but it is nothing but a false, unsupported smear’

            Gosh – isn’t that the progressive MO? All day every day?

          • Notice how Loydo just declares that opinions that differ from his are unsupported.
            Self awareness was never one of her strong points.

          • In my unprofessional opinion, Greta does indeed display many of the physical and mental symptoms of FAS, starting with stunted growth.

            Both of her parents are tall. Her mom is 6’0″. Greta is tiny.

        • It’s about as offensive as the children around the world in shear panic that the world will die before they”ll be 20-25 years old. They’r seeing doctors of different types to help them with anxiety and depression and suicide because of their doomed world, THAT’S WHY!

        • I am offended that you have forced your offence into my FAS musing safe zone.

          How Dare You!

          Jokes said, Time Person of the Year does display strong evidence of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. This is a real condition but one we may never prove, partly because Autism is now considered a Super Power that is to be embraced right up until till the time it is needed as a shield, but mainly because to get Fetal Alcohol you need to have someone who is a ‘Bad Mother’, and no one is going to openly confess to that.

          Still, if you like to believe that the most privileged girl in the world is a innocent and fragile victim that has been cruelly deal a hand of crud in the card game of life then knock yourself out.

          Personally I fear she is a manifestation of evil and means every single word she utters in her quest to reform the world in her personal image, but hey, I could be wrong. Maybe she is just a poorly educated special needs puppet.

          Also, How Dare You!

          Or something 🙂

          • A comédienne from a non-English country, playing the part of a very old lady, when asked about Greta Thunberg responded “is she that climate mongoloid”?

            It made me laugh, because the whole concept of Greta Thunberg is in an of itself an hilarious parody.

            “Name a better representative of 2019 than a petulant child screaming ineffectually about politics beyond their understanding or control.”

          • She’s suffering from demonic possession, in which case her handlers are the demons.

            Hope there was no explosive green vomit on the boats.

        • According to the link you gave:

          Beata was chosen as the face for the marketing campaign for a series of books titled “Handbook for Superheroes” written by author Elias Våhlund that focus on the subject of bullying. The series has been translated to 17 languages and has sent Beata on an international marketing tour.

          I assume she’s travelling internationally only on transport powered by unicorn farts.

        • I guess that their mom didn’t learn from Greta’s conditions in time to stop drinking heavily while pregnant with Beata.

          Maybe Greta was still too young for her physical and mental disorders to become obvious.

    • My 12 year old daughter sees right through it! Refreshing given so much climate propaganda spouted in climate change indoctrination camps, sorry, I mean schools, here in Australia.

  4. Kermit is bemused whilst Brains and Lady Penelopy are completely befuddled .
    How can this be ? please explain .
    Oh , you have to be a person , i c said the blind man .

  5. Funny how she traveled across the usa and some parts of canada, and didn’t post a single picture or story of any “climate” suffering people 😐 None from Europe either, I wonder where the climate problem is? Africa? India? Surely not russia or china?

    Time magazine, its the same magazine that gave Hitler person of the year as well… Seem Time magazine will put any piece of #&it on the front cover!

    • You all seem to miss the point of Person of the Year. It is not a moralistic or political correctness award about like a Nobel “Peace” Prize.

      what A.H achieved was colossal, so much so that we are still talking about it today. That is not a moral judgement, simply a statement of fact. It’s hard to see him not being “Person of the Year” at some point in history. Though I’m sure they were still calling it “Man of the Year” back then.

      • Yes, Greg, you are probably right, though we are dealing with people incapable of learning or telling the truth with Time magazine. However, the appropriate designation would have been “Most in the News” person for the year. Their title implies adulation and approval. I really question the idea that Time was not a lover of Hitler, Hussein, and the other communist mass murders. Time is basically a communist publication that has approved of said form of government for decades. Also, most in the news generally are the dictators, the human haters and the violent. Remember, violence sells. Along with androgynous teenagers.

    • To be fair, she has a carbon-based foot, hand, etc. We all do. Some larger, some smaller, some petite. And toes and fingers, too. We need to decarbonize our population. A planned population.

  6. Greta was the moment the Global Warming movement ‘jumped the shark’.
    She is a great asset to the Skeptic cause…leave her alone.

  7. The empathetic appeal is strong with this one.

    That said, diversity (e.g. racism, sexism, genderism) and exclusion. White privilege? Female sex? Feminine gender? Time, really?

    How did she pass the social justice acid test? Hypocrisy, no. Bigotry, writ large.

    Buy carbon credits. Share… shift liability. Be green, go Green for green.

  8. The Time article excerpt said: ‘Where others speak the language of hope, Thunberg repeats the unassailable science: Oceans will rise. Cities will flood. Millions of people will suffer.’
    Only two errors in that sentence: ‘unassailable’ and ‘science’. Huh! I stopped reading Time about 30 years ago because of tripe like that. I wonder how much further its circulation has fallen since then.

        • There has to be a joke here about people reading Time in waiting rooms and ending up with no circulation, but I can’t quite put it together.

          Or maybe the only people who read Time already have no circulation.

      • I quit reading Time Magazine when they announced in an editorial that they would no longer present both sides of the argument for and against gun control. All future articles would only support the position for gun control. There seems to be a pattern with Time.

  9. If there were a true, scientific basis for her concern I would celebrate her efforts. However, there is not. Those who let this child grow up in an atmosphere of inept lies and terror, and then used her for their own hellish political ends, are guilty of the worst child abuse. Her countenance will be printed on a the cover of a once powerful magazine to stand as a symbol to their everlasting shame.

    • When she is asked a few simple questions, without a prepared script to read from, she has literally nothing to say.
      Not even talking points.
      She is a little actress, nothing more.

      • Just curious, but how do you know? Has anyone ever asked her what could be called a substantive question?

      • And a bad actress at that. She can only function in her own carefully prepared dramatic setting. I feel very sorry for Greta. The world will move on and leave her behind, but she will stay locked in her fears and her anger. How will she be, ten years from now? Will she have matured, or will she be the same tragic prisoner of her illusions? She will soon turn 17, but looks like a ten year old, and talks like a younger child. Kid stars sometimes don’t cope well with growing out of their childhood sweetness on the screen. Greta is anything but sweet on stage, but the situation is the same. The story won’t fit her anymore. Like a confused kitten, that doesn’t understand why it can’t get under the lounge chair as it grows bigger, Greta will lose whatever excuse one may want to grant her, courtesy of young age. A stale, worn-out, impotent rage just won’t make the headlines anymore. Maybe there won’t be sailing boats available for her either.

  10. “We can’t just continue living as if there was no tomorrow, because there is a tomorrow,”

    And for all intents and purposes, there always will be.

  11. You’re a bit late Greta, you should have been here in the 16th century when climate-change was actually a problem.

  12. It seems like a really, really long time Greta has been 16. And time is going by so quick for me now, it seems like it is almost Christmas again. I bet AOC is still only 29, right? Why does time go so slow for some things, and then for other things, it is like it is almost all over? That is what some of the young kids are telling me (with a wink), that I am just an old guy who will be dead soon and then it is their turn to run the place.

  13. No Time (magazine) could be a good thing (channeling a great classic by the Guess Who)
    “No time for a summer friend
    No time for the love you send
    Seasons change and so did I
    You need not wonder why
    You need not wonder why
    There’s no time left for you
    No time left for you”
    (3rd verse)

  14. The irony…should be:

    Angry, Whiny, Self-Righteous, Old, White Guys pile their hate on the Time Magazine’s Person of the Year

    You guys, yes your nearly all guys are soooo out of touch with the science. The science clearly shows abrupt anthropogenic heating.

    But here is the much, much deeper irony: your side has won; the science is clear yet CO2 concentration still climbs exponentially. The delayers, the deniers, the shills, the doubt-mongers, the fossil-fuel lobby, the reptiles of Murdoch and the paid-off politicians have succeeded. Succeeded where the tobacco lobby failed. Greta Thunberg and every young person she has inspired have every right to be pissed.

    • Cool your heels, Loydo. Climate alarmism is no where near as well scientifically supported as the tobacco medical science was. Remember, there’s multiple components to this:

      1) Is the climate warming?
      2) If yes, then is the warming being driven primarily by human-released greenhouse gas emissions?
      3) Will the warming be catastrophic?

      #3 is among the most weakly supported in terms of claiming “yes.” That human-caused climate change will cause catastrophic climate change is not a scientific theory. It is at best a scientific hypothesis.

        • The side effects of the proposed cure, windmills and solar panels, are much worse than the supposed ailment.

          • And if it’s an extra 0.2 – 0.5 from BoM recording stations, it would have been felt for just a couple of seconds each time.
            Oh the humanity!

          • And a reminder that one of the first notices into statistical “warming” was that Siberian winters were getting less cold (i.e., nighttime temps weren’t as cold).

          • What are the hottest-to-coldest season-location-date extreme temperature differences on the Earth, excluding the poles and deserts? . . . something like:
            — 215 F (102 C) for North America
            — 147 F (64 C) for South America
            — 191 F (88 C) for Europe
            — 219 F (104 C) for Asia
            — 142 F (61 C) for Africa
            — 132 F (56 C) for Australia
            — 197 F (92 C) for Antarctica
            (source for above: https://www.space.com/17816-earth-temperature.html )

            So, we humans need to worry about, let alone fear, adapting to a 0.5, or even 3 C, “permanent” upward global temperature shift . . . if it ever comes to pass???

        • Good god!

          Loydo has it ever dawned on you that Greta hasn’t said anything original, she is repeating the same doomsday baloney that have been uttered for many years now. She is repeating the long known propaganda babble of a doomed world over a tabletop pile of unverified climate models.

          You would be happy wearing a straitjacket because you would feel the hugging all day long.

    • The irony Loydo, is that none of those conspiracy theories have any merit, yet the end result is just as you say. CO2 keeps going up. Why?

      Because Loydo, the adults in the room understand that discontinuing fossil fuel use would be precisely the catastrophe that Greta screams about. Billions would die of starvation alone. Without sanitation and clean water, billions more from disease. As for the environment, it would be hooped. Sewage in the water ways, forests cut down by people trying not to freeze to death, animals hunted to extinction by starving masses… A world without fossil fuels is sparsely populated by people living short brutish lives, busy trying to bury their dead and stay among the living.

      Be careful what you wish for Loydo.

    • Well, here we go again Loydo, from a graph that you, yourself posted – no abrupt anthropogenic heating, not much heating at all even, with much of it being before fossil fuels. You have a chronic brain malfunction that needs to be treated Loydo. How can you not see that?

      https://apis.mail.aol.com/ws/v3/mailboxes/@.id==VjN-oV5CbBm02CAL16XrU6ubC_OosL-qgCQaO-MAXRwyzzvoJ8XrwN5iMx_bokw976w1/messages/@.id==AE-n1IN4XmtkXS9HFAm4SPULzBA/content/parts/@.id==2.2/thumbnail?appId=aolwebmail&downloadWhenThumbnailFails=true&pid=2.2

      Greta’s children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren (if she has any) may be blessed with close to another degree of warming, although I wouldn’t call that one.

    • The science Loy-doh can produce none of.

      Just use the words, Loy,

      you don’t need to know what they mean. 😉

        • Why exactly do you believe that we face dangerous man-made global warming, Loydo?
          Please put forward some data or quote from something that you’ve read that convinces you – and no links, set out your views in your own words.
          You say ‘Angry, Whiny, Self-Righteous, Old, White Guys pile their hate on the Time Magazine’s Person of the Year. You guys, yes your nearly all guys are soooo out of touch with the science. The science clearly shows abrupt anthropogenic heating.’
          Your prejudice and rudeness is remarkable. Don’t forget that many of the people who disagree with the CAGW narrative have many years of professional experience in scientific and technical matters.

          • I’m not an old white guy yet, but I’m on my way, unless I decide to be a black woman or take advantage of the newly discovered gender fluidity.

            My conversion from AGW believer to skeptic began when George W Bush began promoting it. I began looking into it and became aware of how poor its scientific basis is. I actually supported Al Gore for president. I should be thankful for my independence.

            I’m presently working for a government institute that is engaged in environmental research, including climate research and atmospheric chemistry. I have a Ph.D. in chemistry and work on instruments for relevant measurements.

            The science is driven by money (grants) and politics, mostly progressive communist, socialist types. The wind will change. In the meantime, real science is suppressed.

        • “Loydo December 12, 2019 at 2:58 am

          What would you consider proof?”

          Actual heating evidence and not just adjusted anomalies, y’know, real data. Oooops, I know, that’s not allowed when discussing climate.

        • “What would you consider proof?”

          How about showing a connection between human-caused CO2 and the Earth’s weather. How about giving us a number on how much warmth CO2 adds to the Earth’s atmosphere. The implied connection is: More warmth equals more severe weather.

          What do you consider proof?

          • She’s just kicking the can down the road. Anything to change the subject away from her inability to actually support her religious convictions.

        • At a minimum, you would need to show that warming is either faster than any time in the past and that warming is greater than any time in the past.

          Currently both conditions are negative for this world.

      • No need to prove it. Just say the word ‘science’ and the accompanying statement is automatically true. It’s a variant of the game ‘Simon says’.

    • “Time Magazine’s Person of the Year”

      Is she, or just nominated for that title?

      When all the fame and attention is gone, and the media asks “Greta who?”, will you be around to cushion the inevitable crash? Nah, I didn’t think so. I have said before, Greta is being manipulated by her PARENTS and her “handler”, she is not prepared for what she is experiencing now and she is not prepared when that experience stops.

    • Loydo December 12, 2019 at 12:47 am

      The science clearly shows abrupt anthropogenic heating.

      Real science shows a cooling Earth for the last ~85 million years. Deep oceans (and thus the surface) cooled some 10-15 degrees during that time. So let’s start noticing something unusual when the deep oceans have warmed at least 10 degrees above their current temperatures.

      Interested to hear how a little CO2 in our cold atmosphere can warm the deep oceans.

    • “Loydo December 12, 2019 at 12:47 am

      The irony…should be:

      But here is the much, much deeper irony: your side has won; the science is clear yet CO2 concentration still climbs exponentially.”

      I don’t think you know the meaning of the word.

    • They need to be pissed at those who scrambled their minds with post-modern deconstructive nihilism, psychotropic drugs and narcissistic popular culture, i.e. the left.

      And they need to be thankful to those who have given them a life of safety, comfort and ease that no other people in the history of mankind have ever known. Made possible by fossil fuels, of course.

    • If the science has won, why did she spend at elast 13.5 Tonnes of CO2e emissions to do her trip? 9 tonnes embodied in the Malizia, 2 tonnes to drive 10,000 miles across USA and Canada, and 2 tonnes on diesel burn as they ploughed through headwinds as they approached the coast of Portugal.

      Add in crew flights and the trip is 20T+.

    • The science shows that there has been warming since 1850.
      The science does not show that there is anything unusual about either the rate or amount of warming.
      The science most certainly does not show that the warming is anthropogenic (sic).

      The world’s average temperature is still substantially below the average for the last 10,000 years.

      The tiny bit of warming that CO2 might be responsible is entirely beneficial.
      The enhanced plant activity caused by enhanced CO2 is almost entirely beneficial.

    • **You guys, yes your nearly all guys are soooo out of touch with the science. The science clearly shows abrupt anthropogenic heating.**
      Bull. No science shows AGW. All hearsay. You just proved it again by NOT being able to quote any proof.

    • The science clearly shows abrupt anthropogenic heating.

      Really? LOL

      Great!

      1- List all climate forcings, order them from most to least effectual, and then quantify them all.

      2- Please provide even one peer reviewed paper that refutes natural variability as the cause of recent, or any, global climate changes.

      There is nothing unusual or unprecedented about our climate, or how we got here. For 4,500,000,000 years climates have always changed, naturally. This means there has been a set precedent, and the burden of proof falls on natural climate change and science deniers like yourself.

      • Without actually knowing what the natural forcers are, we can’t rule them out. (Ask any climatologist what caused the Medieval Warm Period or the Little Ice Age.)
        Add to that the fact that we still haven’t warmed back up to the average of the last 10000 years and the Null hypothesis is confirmed.

      • Seems another “progressive” gets caught projecting bias.

        Reminds me of the lines from the movie “The Matrix”:

        Trinity: My name’s Trinity.
        Neo: *The* Trinity? Who cracked the IRS d-base?
        Trinity: That was a long time ago.
        Neo: Jesus…
        Trinity: What?
        Neo: I just thought… you were a guy.
        Trinity: Most guys do.

        • Yeah, it’s amazing how the “tolerant left” tend to be the most intolerant SOBs you’ll ever meet.

          • Not to mention how many self-professed “male feminists” turn out to be, shall we say, less than gallant.

      • Not exactly news that skeptics seem to be less angry and anxious than CAWG True Believers.

        We are certainly happier and more optimistic.

    • ‘Greta Thunberg and every young person she has inspired have every right to be pissed.’

      Considering the demands this arrogant little POS is making I’d say WE are the ones with the right to be pissed.

      There’s never been a generation that’s been in more dire need of five-across-the-eyes.

  15. Peter Sinclair at Climate Denial Crock of the week

    You may have heard, Greta (which my spell check keeps correcting to “Great”) Thunberg is Time’s Person of the Year. Unexpectedly, I found out that I had been honored as well, in a small way

    An innumerate teenager gets labelled the face of science and he is blessed to be followed by her on twitter. What’s going on here?

    Greta Keeps Drivin’ em Wild

    Ah. That explains it. Science is infuriating any one who is critical of your views.

  16. I will say that it is wrong for the critics of her to claim that her Asperger’s means she has a mental problem and thus should not be listened to. As an Aspie myself, I can say that it can be a disability in certain ways (social interactions), but most certainly not when it comes to things like technical subjects. That is where Aspies shine. So for someone like her, it actually would be a strength. Rather, she should be criticized for at best having what seems to be a grossly oversimplified understanding of this issue and at worst just being flat wrong.

    I do genuinely wonder though just what is her actual level of knowledge on this subject. Some might say, “She is only sixteen, so it has to be an amateurish understanding…” well not necessarily. That depends. There are plenty of sixteen year-olds that can hack computers and have a fairly sophisticated understanding of things like computer programming, computers, electronics, car mechanics, etc…being sixteen means a lack of life experience, not being stupid technically. And with an Asperger person, this is especially the case, as arcane technical subjects are where Aspies are strong. For example, one of the founders of Facebook, Sean Parker, at sixteen, would hack into multiple systems, point out the holes in the security to the system administrator, and then exit and cover his tracks. He had a plan to hack all the major address types (.com, .net, etc…). He got caught when his dad caught him on the computer when he wasn’t supposed to be and pulled the plug, so he left a trail. Then the F.B.I. came and arrested him.

    So she might well have a very in-depth understanding of climate change as a subject. What makes me say she seems to have an oversimplified understanding of the issue overall is that she doesn’t seem to have any concept of just ***HOW*** we can go about trying to address the issue. For example, she talks about limiting carbon emissions and criticizing the emissions targets, and HOW DARE YOU do all this carbon damage, and all of that. But yet, how does she propose we do this? You can’t just shift industrial economies to solar and wind power and electric cars (and who knows what for ships and jumbo jets). She doesn’t seem to have any understanding about any of that. For example Germany has tried very hard to do just what she wants, and ran up against the hard limits, and still has among the highest energy prices in the industrialized world.

    The only way to do what she demands would be for a tyranny to be implemented and a SEVERE reduction in global standard of living, to the point that you’d likely hurt people more by trying to limit carbon emissions then by the possible damage said carbon emissions (may) cause. She seems not to understand any of this however.

    • Kyle
      “So she might well have a very in-depth understanding of climate change as a subject.”
      There is a difference between someone being able to hack computers at 16 years old and being able to understand the science of the greenhouse effect due to CO2. The latter requires not just knowledge of chenmistry , physics, spectroscopy , but also all the many factors that influence meteorology and climate generally . Not to mention having read papers or books on the history of climate and the many natural changes in temperature , precipitation , CO2 levels, solar insolation etc over millions of years.
      As many readers here have no doubt found, unless you have put in years of study – which basically means reading a whole library of papers and /or experimental work, then you can have plenty of opinions on climate change but no real authority.
      I started off with the supposed advantage of a PhD in near infra red spectroscopy and a lifetime spent in either the lab or library , but I find that I would need another lifetime to get up to the standard where I could argue with confidence against, say. a Nick Stokes. Yet you think that someone who eschews formal study and with no degrees in science has an in-depth understanding of the subject of climate change.
      Difficult to believe.

      • I didn’t say that I think she has an in-depth understanding of the subject, I said that she **could** at her age. To learn to truly be a hacker requires a lot of reading and study. So I would not put it into impossible for a sixteen year-old girl with Asperger’s who is passionate about climate to formally learn the math, physics, and chemistry (or at least a good bit of it) and do a lot of reading of books and maybe even papers. No she likely wouldn’t have the level of knowledge of a professional who studies the subject and has for many years, but she very much could have a lot more knowledge than the average person and be capable of discussing most of the big issues about climate, and addressing people who say the climate changing is not a threat, or who say that the climate isn’t changing, etc…

        Put it this way, a sixteen year-old hacker probably won’t have the knowledge of a hacker who has been at it for decades and done a very extensive amount of reading. study, and practicing, but they still will know a lot more than the average person. Where you would say, “Okay, this person is no amateur on this subject.”

        But Greta doesn’t come across that way, where you’d say, “Okay, clearly this girl has an above-average level of understanding about climate change and policies to deal with it. She is no amateur in her understanding.” Which I personally find a bit odd for an Aspie who is passionate about the subject.

        Asperger’s in children is nicknamed “Little Professor Syndrome.”

        • Little professor syndrome ” yes I have seen this with children particularly maths, BUT there is a difference between Greta and other little professors, they demonstrate their capabilities were as Greta does not ,she has only demonstrated a belief. A scripted belief, she has been seen to shoo off questions , she has only ever given speeches with no questions and answers directed at her, she has been filmed deffering questions to other members of a speakers panel. She has never demonstrated any understanding of climate science and she has had many opportunities to do so, I do not believe she has little professor syndrome or any other special capability. She does however have a remarkable set of invisible strings.

    • However, Greta Thunberg not only has Asperger’s syndrome but also a history of anxiety, eating disorders and selective mutism. The latter she alludes to in her latest speech at COP25, where it was only 18 months ago that she would chose when and where to talk.
      Asperger’s syndrome appears to manifest itself differently in females than it does in males, and there appears to be a link between how it manifests depending on the menstrual cycle in adolescents.
      I’ll find references and post them here.

    • “how does she propose we do this?”

      Isn’t it enough that she clarifies the problem, you want her to solve it too?

      • She can read, clearly, from a script. That’s about it! So clarifying the “problem” does not even enter her thoughts, she’s not thinking, she’s reading. Like all good actors.

      • “The problem” is an imaginary, fabricated one. Surely she can fabricate a “solution” to the “problem” as well? Or perhaps she lacks the imagination? She imagines she can “see” CO2, so that seems unlikely.

      • She isn’t ‘clarifying’ any problem – she’s perpetrating a fraud and pushing an incredibly destructive and totalitarian agenda.

        But as a ‘Angry, Whiny, Self-Righteous’ she’s a perfect symbol for your movement.

      • If she wants to be taken seriously on the issue, and if she is as smart as they make her out to be, then yes. She ought to be fully aware that if you are going to truly address climate change, that there are major economic and technological issues involved, that it isn’t simply due to a bunch of old meanies who refuse to get with the program. And as such, use her voice to advocate for solutions she sees as beginning steps and workable.

        I remember being 16, and while I was naive in many ways, I was plenty smart enough to recognize that the world, and the various subjects in it, are complicated. I knew for example that there are reasons why we have not yet colonized Mars. She on the other hand is like a kid paranoid about Earth getting smacked by an asteroid, saying, “HOW DARE YOU!” for not having colonized the Solar System.

    • You’re right, Aspergers is not a mental illness, it’s considered a developmental disorder.

      However, she’s also suffered from OCD, anxiety attacks, eating disorders and selective mutism. The reason she’s so tiny is because she starved herself almost to the point of death.

      I don’t know if she’s still only eating rice and rice cake sandwiches, but if so she may never undergo puberty.

      • I don’t know if she’s small because of starvation. Maybe, but there are plenty of people who look extremely young at sixteen. When I was sixteen, nobody believed me that I was that age. At 33, I got taken for 19.

    • “He got caught when his dad caught him on the computer when he wasn’t supposed to be and pulled the plug, so he left a trail. Then the F.B.I. came and arrested him.”

      Ouch!! The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry. 🙂

  17. Remember also, Time’s “Person of the Year” doesn’t mean someone they approve of the most, just who has been the most influential (as they see it).

    • Who has been influenced by Greta?
      She’s been busy preaching to the choir. The rest of us ignore here most of the time.

      • Note I put into parenthesis “as they see it.” I didn’t say she has been influential, I said that Time’s “Person of the Year” is about who THEY see as influential.

  18. I have just asked The Times to run s letter asking for a debate between scientists believing in a climate crisis and those who don’t. All participants to be Nobel prize winners ( and I don’t mean Peace Prize ). Will they print it ?
    Re this thread, what is St Greta’s line on the billion or more without electricity? Haven’t heard.

    • Coeur
      I will be surprised if they print it. They long ago abandoned any pretense of being objective and balanced.

  19. If there is still anyone out there who believes the climate hoax is anything other than a political cause, read this:
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/climate-groupies-cheer-as-gasbag-man-bear-pig-al-gore-as-he-slams-stupidest-brexit-decision-at-madrid-climate-conference/
    Here is the pertinent part:

    Activists at the COP25 climate conference in Madrid, Spain burst into cheers and applause Tuesday when former U.S. Vice President Al Gore said Brexit is “perhaps the stupidest decision” a country could have made.

    The whole Brexit, Trump, climate thing (and every other cause of the New Left) is about them against us, and the more ridiculous the climate scare claims they make and the more absurd the icons they choose as the standard-bearers for their ’cause’, the more they (the self-proclaimed elites) get off on the self-gratification they get from rubbing our (we deplorables) faces in it. It’s not about ideology; it is purely about psychology.

  20. “Angry, Whiny, Self-Righteous High-school Dropout Picked as Time Magazine’s Person of the Year”

    Fairly typical CV, for this award.

  21. If she eventually gets married, I will feel bad for the poor guy. He will be hen pecked to the point of driving him insane.

  22. James Delingpole at Breitbart: From Hitler and Stalin to Greta Thunberg — Time Loves to Celebrate Totalitarian Icons

    “Adolf Hitler 1938
    Joseph Stalin 1939
    Joseph Stalin (again) 1942
    Ayatollah Khomeini 1979
    Greta Thunberg 2019

    Yes, you’ve got to hand it to what’s left of Time magazine: it hasn’t lost its unerring ability to put its finger on the pulse of the zeitgeist, invariably managing to name a Person of the Year who sums up perfectly the madness of the age.”

    According to Wiki (I think it is safe to use Wiki in this instance) “Time Person of the Year (called Man of the Year or Woman of the Year until 1999) is an annual issue of the United States news magazine Time that features and profiles a person, a group, an idea, or an object that “for better or for worse… has done the most to influence the events of the year”.”

    It’s good that Greta Thunberg has been named Time Person of the Year for 2019 so that in the future we can look back on the madness of the age.

  23. They should name something after her, like a prison, or a form of capital punishment, a natural laxative…I don’t know…a disease of the brain or some such.

    • Many girls have an invisible imaginary friend that only they can “see”

      Greta has invisible CO2 that only she can “See”

    • … which reminded me of the late, great Rik Mayall in the brilliant “Drop Dead Fred”. Rik is sorely missed. Time to download The New Statesman to improve my mood!

  24. Greta,Greta,Greta you are too young to understand what is happening to you or how you are being used to influence the young and the old around the world .
    Please enjoy the moment while it lasts but be prepared for the inevitable come down .
    Please also do not feel personably responsible for lack of affordable power to millions of people because governments world wide have not ‘dared’ to invest in fossil fueled energy at your say so .
    Happy holidays

  25. Looking at previous recipients of this award she’s in interesting company. Charles Lindbergh, Gandhi, Wallis Simpson, Hitler, Stalin (twice), FDR (3 times), George Marshall(twice), Eisenhower (twice), JFK, LBJ, Khrushchev, Nixon(twice), King Faisal, Deng Xiaoping, Khomeini, Andropov, Putin the list of runners up is equally interesting.

    Perhaps it’s best to wait and see rather than throw awards about before the dust settles

    • Since the list began in 1927, the only US presidents not to have made it have been Republicans Coolidge, Hoover and Ford.

  26. Here’s something no one is addressing: Greta’s a “thing” right now. But her parents are middle-aged adults and at some point, they’ll be dead and gone. They are her enablers, and if anyone thinks there is no cash involved in this exploitation of a naive teen, you aren’t paying attention.

    Who is going to be her and her sister’s caretaker after the parents are gone? The real world has a way of evening things out, you know. That includes climate changing on a recurring basis. Has anyone explained this to Greta, brought up the history -the very LONG history – of climate changes on this planet? No? Oh, well…..

  27. What an autocrat, telling us all to feel what she feels.

    She is frightened because she has been brainwashed, not because she has truly evaluated history.

    Aspergers folks are fearful when lacking understanding/competence but become calm when understanding/mastery emerges.

    She needs to really study climate science instead of believing ehst she reads and is told by charlatans.

    Right now, she is the leader of a cult based on unquestioning ignorance.

    Nothing to admire in that…..

  28. Increased (near total) hiding of Greta Thunberg criticism on search engines!

    I just used two hours searching on DuckDuckGo and Yandex for critical headlines in the English or Swedish language with preference to “.se” sites: “site:.se dropout greta thunberg”. I added the word “dropout” to get any negative statement at all, which made WUWT pop up on seventh page in the search.
    Out of hundreds of entries, only a five or so entries were somewhat negative to Greta.

    A month ago, I did a similar search for about 30 min.
    Out of about hundred entries, I found about 10 entries being negative to Greta and some serious critical, with comment from Swedes for about 90% being very angry with Greta and particular her parents and the media.

    I cannot be certain, but my impression is that the search engines areeffectively filtering out _all_ publications that are not either positive or neutral to the teen.

    Pravda’s former so famous censorship dwarfs compared to Associated Press, governments and search engines of today.

    Some utopian thoughts
    ===================

    Suggestion A:
    Divide every country and every state into two regions with each their government. One region for rational industrial progress and the other region for the frightened Green salon communists.

    Suggestion B (with example from the past):
    Give constitutional mandate in parliament to represent minority population.
    When the border between Germany and Denmark was moved peacefully. The border was moved 1864 in favor of Germany and the Danish minded population in the region was admitted a representative and deligation in the Danish parliament. You can attend Danish schools, etc. in the now German region of South Slesvig. The Danish community is today only about 50,000 people though. This may be an almost unique solution, maybe repeatable 🙂

  29. “We can’t just continue living as if there was no tomorrow, because there is a tomorrow”

    Chauncey Gardner, we’ve found your daughter!

  30. What a perfect choice that is. No one sums up the level of climate ignorance better than our Greta.
    She is the obvious person to grace Time Magazine person of the year. Who knows next year they might have someone who understands the subject they are championing.

    • Yep she’s the quintessential climate changer alright.
      Whadda we want? Climate change! When do we wannit? Now!

  31. I would like to honor all those high school students who are studying math, earth science, biology, chemistry and physics who have chosen to think for themselves. These are the ones who will really learn something, and I hope they have the courage to challenge the baseless claims of climate doom.

  32. “Outside, it’s a tempest: rain pelts the boat, ice coats the decks, and the sea batters the vessel that will take this slight girl, her father and a few companions from Virginia to Portugal.”

    Ice coats the decks…

    Ice.

    Self awareness is strong with this writer.

    Also I hope we all realise that Time Magazine have just publicly grouped Greta with Literally Hitler. Nice.

  33. Person of the year? She doesn’t even have a personality, that little puppet. Her strings are being pulled by somebody else.

    A rundown of the Thunberg familiy’s mental state:
    https://notrickszone.com/2019/10/26/german-portrait-of-the-thunberg-ernman-family-acutely-dysfunctional-an-infinitely-sad-family-history/

    “The predicted climate catastrophe gives Malena Ernman and her family the opportunity to put their own fate and also their responsibility for their own well-being at the bottom of the list. The earth is sick, the Thunbergs are sick.”

  34. When someone asked me what I thought of her, I truthfully said: “I’ll treat her like I treat most teenagers: I’ll ignore them until she becomes too obnoxious, then I’ll ask her to pipe down and let the grown-ups talk”.

    BTW, our local talk radio drip just announced that if we don’t like all the attention she’s getting, it means we’re on the wrong side of history.

    Can’t wait to fill out my (final) listener’s card…

  35. Greta is Poe’s law in action: Poe’s law is an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author’s intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied.

    • Actually, she’s more a good example of over-indulgence masquerading as parenting, with a good dose of Stage Parent Syndrome (and perhaps Munchhausen Syndrome by Proxy – something of which I know in intimate detail after having to fight my insane ex-wife through a child access war.

  36. For the longest period of time the west had one “Reality Manufacturing Machine” with the satellite geniuses of the day informing the greater mass of the nature of the Universe. Intellectual banter allowed for the stiff competition of intelligence that prevailed against that ever changing paradigm.

    Although that paradigm shifted slowly, in comparison in the beginnings. As the century progressed new tools and an ever expanding landscape of media. New theories moved the masses to and fro…even in the inconsequential ways. Coffee is good for us, now it is not, tommorrow it will better for us.”

    In recent times that “Reality Manufacturing Machine” (RMM) has had rather stiff competition for the minds of the masses from the likes of China and in the purposeful and determinant “Active Measures Program” of the New Soviet Union. Smaller nations also obtain RMM”s and indulge in their fakery as a competitive edge.

    Now you may laugh, but there ‘is’ a well established and well financed fifth column in the west where we preside and fight this cyber war. They have for the most part been occupied with things like gay rights or some such right of a mediocre minority. But after the war is won, they are left with a sizable amount of power and a momentum that is enabled by their budgets. An an inclination to not just make things equal for themselves and the society at large, but better than equal.

    Owing to that, is the multiple of smaller RMM’s that have taken to producing Internet pages of fakery and inculcate with that enormous publishing and broadcasting power their rather stressed and hyperfocused populations.

    So one might find a intellect in a field far removed from climate sanity; an amateur ornithologist who sees declining populations of birds as a signal that climate is changing, and is verified by a deluge of bullshit — that mankind is having an great effect on the little birdies. When in fact, a cooling climate with more corrupted food sources, an electronic spider webs of EMF noise and industrial pollutants are a few of the real culprits. It is amazing how much of affect hummingbird feeders are having on hummingbird decline. Bird feeders in general are dangerous as they teach ever expanding populations of birdies to live off the dole and not try and scratch out a living like their much more adapted ancestors.

    It seems people crave one answer, one cause for the failing/succeeding globe. The inmates are definitely running the asylum. And as the saying goes, ” There is is no fool like an old educated fool.” They are are so easy to fool.

    Too many idiots have gained enormous media power, and that is the real problem. The trouble is it might take greater censorship for it to be solved. Mass censorship — and who is willing to exercise that STFU initiative. And who would agree with that, there is a lot truth to the STFU componant of this seemingly unsolvable.

    If you don’t believe me, check out the subscribers to any idiot fake news show on YouTube, or child broadcaster living on an diet of fruit loops with a few hundred thousand viewers that are hyperfocused and drooling for the next.

    Billiee Eilish, born 2001, a new upstart with an occulted message to her fans about climate and the oil paradigm has a avalanche of fan growth since her release to the world in 2015. With a deluge of endorsements and Apple support, her latest and greatest has more than 25 million hits in less than six days. Another Aspergian to note — how can anyone with common sense and the truth compete with that little RMM.

    A five year old girl with a cellphone will end the world.

    For the longest period of time the west had one “Reality Manufacturing Machine” with the satellite geniuses of the day informing the greater mass of the nature of the Universe. Intellectual banter allowed for the stiff competition of intelligence that prevailed against that ever changing paradigm.

    Although that paradigm shifted slowly, in comparison in the beginnings. As the century progressed new tools and an ever expanding landscape of media. New theories moved the masses to and fro…even in the inconsequential ways. Coffee is good for us, now it is not, tommorrow it will better for us.”

    In recent times that “Reality Manufacturing Machine” (RMM) has had rather stiff competition for the minds of the masses from the likes of China and in the purposeful and determinant “Active Measures Program” of the New Soviet Union. Smaller nations also obtain RMM”s and indulge in their fakery as a competitive edge.

    Now you may laugh, but there ‘is’ a well established and well financed fifth column in the west where we preside and fight this cyber war. They have for the most part been occupied with things like gay rights or some such right of a mediocre minority. But after the war is won, they are left with a sizable amount of power and a momentum that is enabled by their budgets. An an inclination to not just make things equal for themselves and the society at large, but better than equal.

    Owing to that, is the multiple of smaller RMM’s that have taken to producing Internet pages of fakery and inculcate with that enormous publishing and broadcasting power their rather stressed and hyperfocused populations.

    So one might find a intellect in a field far removed from climate sanity; an amateur ornithologist who sees declining populations of birds as a signal that climate is changing, and is verified by a deluge of bullshit — that mankind is having an great effect on the little birdies. When in fact, a cooling climate with more corrupted food sources, an electronic spider webs of EMF noise and industrial pollutants are a few of the real culprits. It is amazing how much of affect hummingbird feeders are having on hummingbird decline. Bird feeders in general are dangerous as they teach ever expanding populations of birdies to live off the dole and not try and scratch out a living like their much more adapted ancestors.

    It seems people crave one answer, one cause for the failing/succeeding globe. The inmates are definitely running the asylum. And as the saying goes, ” There is is no fool like an old educated fool.” They are are so easy to fool.

    Too many idiots have gained enormous media power, and that is the real problem. The trouble is it might take greater censorship for it to be solved. Mass censorship — and who is willing to exercise that STFU initiative. And who would agree with that, there is a lot truth to the STFU componant of this seemingly unsolvable.

    If you don’t believe me, check out the subscribers to any idiot fake news show on YouTube, or child broadcaster living on an diet of fruit loops with a few hundred thousand viewers that are hyperfocused and drooling for the next.

    Billiee Eilish, born 2001, a new upstart with an occulted message to her fans about climate and the oil paradigm has a avalanche of fan growth since her release to the world in 2015. With a deluge of endorsements and Apple support, her latest and greatest has more than 25 million hits in less than six days. Another Aspergian to note — how can anyone with common sense and the truth compete with that little RMM.

    A five year old girl with a cellphone will end the world.

    For the longest period of time the west had one “Reality Manufacturing Machine” with the satellite geniuses of the day informing the greater mass of the nature of the Universe. Intellectual banter allowed for the stiff competition of intelligence that prevailed against that ever changing paradigm.

    Although that paradigm shifted slowly, in comparison in the beginnings. As the century progressed new tools and an ever expanding landscape of media. New theories moved the masses to and fro…even in the inconsequential ways. Coffee is good for us, now it is not, tommorrow it will better for us.”

    In recent times that “Reality Manufacturing Machine” (RMM) has had rather stiff competition for the minds of the masses from the likes of China and in the purposeful and determinant “Active Measures Program” of the New Soviet Union. Smaller nations also obtain RMM”s and indulge in their fakery as a competitive edge.

    Now you may laugh, but there ‘is’ a well established and well financed fifth column in the west where we preside and fight this cyber war. They have for the most part been occupied with things like gay rights or some such right of a mediocre minority. But after the war is won, they are left with a sizable amount of power and a momentum that is enabled by their budgets. An an inclination to not just make things equal for themselves and the society at large, but better than equal.

    Owing to that, is the multiple of smaller RMM’s that have taken to producing Internet pages of fakery and inculcate with that enormous publishing and broadcasting power their rather stressed and hyperfocused populations.

    So one might find a intellect in a field far removed from climate sanity; an amateur ornithologist who sees declining populations of birds as a signal that climate is changing, and is verified by a deluge of bullshit — that mankind is having an great effect on the little birdies. When in fact, a cooling climate with more corrupted food sources, an electronic spider webs of EMF noise and industrial pollutants are a few of the real culprits. It is amazing how much of affect hummingbird feeders are having on hummingbird decline. Bird feeders in general are dangerous as they teach ever expanding populations of birdies to live off the dole and not try and scratch out a living like their much more adapted ancestors.

    It seems people crave one answer, one cause for the failing/succeeding globe. The inmates are definitely running the asylum. And as the saying goes, ” There is is no fool like an old educated fool.” They are are so easy to fool.

    Too many idiots have gained enormous media power, and that is the real problem. The trouble is it might take greater censorship for it to be solved. Mass censorship — and who is willing to exercise that STFU initiative. And who would agree with that, there is a lot truth to the STFU componant of this seemingly unsolvable.

    If you don’t believe me, check out the subscribers to any idiot fake news show on YouTube, or child broadcaster living on an diet of fruit loops with a few hundred thousand viewers that are hyperfocused and drooling for the next.

    Billiee Eilish, born 2001, a new upstart with an occulted message to her fans about climate and the oil paradigm has a avalanche of fan growth since her release to the world in 2015. With a deluge of endorsements and Apple support, her latest and greatest has more than 25 million hits in less than six days. Another Aspergian to note — how can anyone with common sense and the truth compete with that little RMM.

    A five year old girl with a cellphone will end the world.

    For the longest period of time the west had one “Reality Manufacturing Machine” with the satellite geniuses of the day informing the greater mass of the nature of the Universe. Intellectual banter allowed for the stiff competition of intelligence that prevailed against that ever changing paradigm.

    Although that paradigm shifted slowly, in comparison in the beginnings. As the century progressed new tools and an ever expanding landscape of media. New theories moved the masses to and fro…even in the inconsequential ways. Coffee is good for us, now it is not, tommorrow it will better for us.”

    In recent times that “Reality Manufacturing Machine” (RMM) has had rather stiff competition for the minds of the masses from the likes of China and in the purposeful and determinant “Active Measures Program” of the New Soviet Union. Smaller nations also obtain RMM”s and indulge in their fakery as a competitive edge.

    Now you may laugh, but there ‘is’ a well established and well financed fifth column in the west where we preside and fight this cyber war. They have for the most part been occupied with things like gay rights or some such right of a mediocre minority. But after the war is won, they are left with a sizable amount of power and a momentum that is enabled by their budgets. An an inclination to not just make things equal for themselves and the society at large, but better than equal.

    Owing to that, is the multiple of smaller RMM’s that have taken to producing Internet pages of fakery and inculcate with that enormous publishing and broadcasting power their rather stressed and hyperfocused populations.

    So one might find a intellect in a field far removed from climate sanity; an amateur ornithologist who sees declining populations of birds as a signal that climate is changing, and is verified by a deluge of bullshit — that mankind is having an great effect on the little birdies. When in fact, a cooling climate with more corrupted food sources, an electronic spider webs of EMF noise and industrial pollutants are a few of the real culprits. It is amazing how much of affect hummingbird feeders are having on hummingbird decline. Bird feeders in general are dangerous as they teach ever expanding populations of birdies to live off the dole and not try and scratch out a living like their much more adapted ancestors.

    It seems people crave one answer, one cause for the failing/succeeding globe. The inmates are definitely running the asylum. And as the saying goes, ” There is is no fool like an old educated fool.” They are are so easy to fool.

    Too many idiots have gained enormous media power, and that is the real problem. The trouble is it might take greater censorship for it to be solved. Mass censorship — and who is willing to exercise that STFU initiative. And who would agree with that, there is a lot truth to the STFU componant of this seemingly unsolvable.

    If you don’t believe me, check out the subscribers to any idiot fake news show on YouTube, or child broadcaster living on an diet of fruit loops with a few hundred thousand viewers that are hyperfocused and drooling for the next.

    Billiee Eilish, born 2001, a new upstart with an occulted message to her fans about climate and the oil paradigm has a avalanche of fan growth since her release to the world in 2015. With a deluge of endorsements and Apple support, her latest and greatest has more than 25 million hits in less than six days. Another Aspergian to note — how can anyone with common sense and the truth compete with that little RMM.

    A five year old girl with a cellphone will end the world.

    • On the other hand, who exactly has she influenced?
      Not you.
      Not me.
      The people she preaches to are already hard core believers.

  37. Greta Thunderpants is a pawn in a socialist insurrection designed to promote global governance through control of energy. I suspect she is more a victim than active conspirator. Focusing on her is a diversion from the need to reveal the total lack of scientific evidence supporting the alarmist narrative. The fact that alarmists promote her as a credible spokesperson for their cause is a frank admission they have no useful factual evidence to help win a debate on the science. One day in the not too distant future her name will be associated with being duped by fraudsters as in “you’ve got Greta all over your face” or “what’s that awful smell, you must have stepped in some Greta”, or “how could you have fallen for such a steaming pile of Greta”. But the fault won’t be hers, but rather her parents and all the conspirators behinds her who should have known better.

  38. I have no problem with Greta. She is a child and one with Asperger’s too.

    However, I hold her parents and whoever else is pulling her strings in contempt. But most of all I hate the despicable media for portraying Greta as the most insightful and well informed climatologist, economist and politician on the planet. She is not some Deity.

  39. As others have noted, the Person of the Year is not necessarily a laudable achievement. It is given to:

    a person, a group, an idea, or an object that “for better or for worse… has done the most to influence the events of the year.”

    Even on that basis I think this year’s award is flawed. To influence events is to cause them to take a course they would not otherwise take without the words or actions of the influencer. So exactly what events has Greta influenced?

    She’s appeared before people who already believe what she’s saying and gotten them to cheer her for saying it again. She’s convinced a bunch of NGOs who already advocate all the same policies to promote her with other people’s money. She’s convinced a bunch of students to go “on strike” from school (like they wanted to be there anyway).

    In fact, everywhere she goes she is scolding people for not doing the right things or not doing enough of them. If she were having influence, you’d expect to see some people change behavior. She certainly hasn’t gotten anyone else to give up private jets or waterfront mansions.

    I’m not seeing any major influence here.

  40. How will she cope with being a forgotten nobody when she is 24 and not a cute kid they can use to promote their agenda anymore because *gasp* how dare you attack a child? I do feel bad for her because she is being used and doesn’t even know it. She’s spouting what she has been told. I’m angry at the adults using her as a human shield.

  41. I spent 30 years of my life in a communist country in Cental Europe. I still remember well the communist propaganda. It was everywhere. All day long. Lenin, Lenin, Lenin. I recall a joke from that time:

    Whenever I open the radio I hear: Lenin
    Whenever I open the TV I sea: Lenin
    Whenever I open the newspaper I read: Lenin
    One should be afraid of opening a can…

    It came to my mind now in an updated version with … Greta. I am sorry.

    The style of climate propaganda in our media is exactly the same as that of communist brainwashing 30 years ago. However, based on my life experience, I think that climate action in Europe is impossible without EU Ministry of Green Truth and Ministry of Green Peace responsible for green credit system and green militia punishing people with low credits and climate change doubters (the latter together with their families),

  42. I spent 30 years of life in a communist country in Central Europe. I still remember the communist propaganda. It was everywhere. All day long. Lenin, Lenin, Lenin. I recall a popular joke from that time:

    Whenever I open the radio I hear: Lenin
    Whenever I open the TV I see: Lenin
    Whenever I open the newpaper I read: Lenin
    One should become aware of opening a can …

    Now it came back to my mind in an updated version with … Greta.

    I am sorry but the recent climate propaganda is exactly the same as that we had here >30 years ago.

  43. When editors realise that they would increase their readership by publishing facts, aggreed by checking by the public.

    But they won’t .

    They are in the pay of someone or stupid.

    I despair.

  44. It is probably obvious to anyone over 25 with half a brain that Greta Thunberg has been manipulated into her screeds by older people using her to advance their agenda, portraying her as a sweet, innocent little victim of Big Oil or Big Coal or some other “evil” big business. But if she is a high school dropout, what solutions does she have for this supposed existential threat to the world? Yes, it is possible to cross the ocean on wind power, using technology available to Columbus in 1492, but could such technology support over 7 billion people today?

    It’s not enough to curse the darkness, does she have enough knowledge to light a lamp?

    Greta is Swedish, and most of Sweden is above 55 degrees north latitude, meaning that days are only about 7 hours long this time of year, with lots of nights well below freezing. Before Greta scolds us about “how dare” anyone burn fossil fuels, let her spend this coming winter in an unheated house in Sweden, without burning any coal, oil, or natural gas. Oh, by the way, don’t burn any wood either, even if her house is surrounded by forest, because burning wood produces more CO2 per unit energy released than coal, oil, or natural gas, and those trees she burns won’t be taking CO2 out of the air next summer!

    Maybe after she spends a winter freezing in 19th-century conditions, will she appreciate why people “dare” to emit a harmless gas (CO2) whose concentration in the air has increased by 0.01% over the last century, it order to stay warm in the winter!

  45. Wasn’t Greta complaining just a few days ago that “they” were desperately trying to silence her?

    And poor Time Magazine, once a publication held in widespread high esteem, now simply trying to stay relevant to the Millennials and subsequent generations that would be their money troughs.

    • “Wasn’t Greta complaining just a few days ago that “they” were desperately trying to silence her?”

      Reminds me of the media during the Good Old Days of mere BDS (not Boycott, Divest, Sanctions, that’s different lunacy, but Bush Derangement Syndrome).

      Two of Bush’s greatest critics, Al Gore and Michael Moore, both millionaires, both media darlings, were given the world stage (one for Nobel prize, the other for Academy Award) to slam him.

      Yet both complained of some sort of creeping, approaching fascism. Or something, but some sort of martyrdom. See: still millionaires, still media darlings, etc.

      As someone has pointed out, she’s supposedly one of the most powerful women on the planet AND a little girl who can’t be criticized.

      • As someone has pointed out, she’s supposedly one of the most powerful women on the planet AND a little girl who can’t be criticized.

        That’s one of the M.O.s of the left they love to trot out “spokespeople” for their agenda that you dare not criticize. Not too surprising, when you know your agenda can’t stand up to scrutiny you look for any way possible to prevent such public scrutiny.

        • Yep.

          I was talking about her and meant to say “she’s just a mascot”, but it came out as “she’s just a muppet”.

          Which, depending on your view, might be a better example, but one would have to be careful in that analogy, for various reasons.

  46. Being selected as Time’s magazine “Person of the Year” has become an honor akin to being as special as the tallest midget at the circus.

  47. Our morning talk show host made a very good point:
    Times “Person of the Year” is supposed to be the most influential person of the year. Yet Greta herself has said a year has gone by and nothing has changed. So how can she be “the most influential” when by her own admission, she’s having zero effect.

  48. I do not blame Greta for the mess we are in.

    The problem is the mantra which is CAGW and a forced solution that will never work for economic and engineering reasons.

    The mantra has become an out of control movement with an agenda and real power.

    The CAGW movement is as dangerous as world depression and completely dysfunctional governments.

    It does not matter what anyone believes. Logic and observations win, reality is different than we think.

    What we are waiting for is the first unexplained drop in global temperatures.

  49. Greta is the result of 10 years of public school brainwashing…

    Students are no longer taught how to think, but rather what to think, and Greta is a tragic example of educational child abuse….

    From one perspective, perhaps it’s appropriate Greta Thunberg should be Time’s Person-of-the Year, because she so accurately optimizes the abandonment of reality, logic and reason which, unfortunately, reflects this time in history..

    (Rescued from spam bin) SUNMOD

    • Thanks, SUNMOD-san.

      Recently I’ve had a number of posts put in the spam bin as it seems some moderators don’t Especially like my conservative take on things…

    • Samurai
      It is my understanding that she has been home schooled, rather than attending public schools.

  50. Greta has (or will) become exceedingly wealthy on the back of all this (large numbers have been bandied around), as will her contemptible handlers. She will never have to work, ever. She will be unlikely to complete any formal education and we can thus expect her ignorance to remain that of an uninformed adolescent.

    Welcome to the Idiocracy

  51. As soon as she has outlived her usefulness, she will disappear. A poster at another blog pointed to Cindy Sheehan and Sandra Fluke as examples.

    I feel bad for Greta since she has issues and is being exploited abusively. I’m not sure how she’ll react when she sees the light.

  52. It’s probably like the fear I feel towards the end of each month, the mortgage is coming due and the SSA check is about gone. If some magnanimous soul would drop $1200 into my PP account “THERESONEBORNEVERYSECOND” each month, I would not have to fear again. Thanks for you consideration

  53. As was said earlier, Greta is known to be on the autism spectrum (Asperger’s?). That does not speak to her intellect but it does speak to her social ability to recognize when she is being exploited. These kids generally have no social skills, trouble reading the motives of other people. Many people just cannot relate. Social skills are considered to be innate, until you run into someone without them. Which reminds me of another truth. Hearing loss is the only disability where people get angry at you because of it. A little understanding when someone can’t hear very well would go a long way.

    She is a minor, this group should probably do the graceful thing and ignore her.

    This does bring up however what I call “living your life for somebody else’s cause”. Our universities make a practice of producing millions of graduates who will go on to do just this. I am a Boomer. A great many of my peers did this. I know of no one who has been happy living their life this way. Sooner or later they realize they forgot to live their own life. Maybe they didn’t get married, or didn’t have kids, or didn’t take that responsible job, or didn’t save for the future, or didn’t study something that would result in paid employment. One day they wake up and realize the world has left them behind and all they have to show for it is at best an inconsequential piece of legislation.

    I feel bad for a teenager who is missing out on her normal teenage years. Unfortunately she may someday as well. Can I cite evidence? Child TV stars. Enough said.

  54. Time Magazine Person of the Year 2019, Greta Thunberg. Time Magazine Man of the Year 1938, Adolph Hitler. Beware the history you associate with.

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