Climate Scientist: Far Left British Politician Jeremy Corbyn will Save the World

Jeremy Corbyn, brother of famous British skeptic Piers Corbyn, public domain image, source Wikimedia.

According to climate scientist Simon Lewis, Professor of Global Change Science at the University of Leeds, a victory for the mainstream green Marxist British leader Jeremy Corbyn on 12th December this year will lead to the USA embracing the Green New Deal.

I’m a climate change scientist – and I’m campaigning for Labour this election

December 4, 2019 5.06am AEDT

The 2019 UK general election matters because the climate emergency means that the next decade is critical for the future of humanity. Only a Labour government can really turn things around, not just in the UK, but globally. This may sound exaggerated, but it’s true. Let me explain.

A serious plan

Finally, after 30-plus years of scientists explaining the problem, a major political party of a major economy has a serious plan for part one of the process. After wrangling between grassroots activists and trade unions, the Labour Manifestopledges that the “substantial majority” of UK emissions will be eliminated by 2030. This isn’t bluster, as there is serious investment planned across electricity production (more wind and solar), buildings (retrofitting all UK houses to high efficiency standards), transport (investment in buses, only electric cars sales from 2030), and heavy industry (research and development into hydrogen and carbon capture technology), to name a few sectors.

Crucially, this would be driven by those who control the finances of the country. A new Sustainable Investment Board would bring together the chancellor, business secretary and Bank of England governor to oversee and co-ordinate these major investments. A National Investment Bank with £250 billion allocated for decarbonising the economy provides serious funds. And climate and environmental impacts will be included in the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasts, so that the cost of not acting will be factored into every government decision.

Finally, geopolitics matters. The world is gripped by right-wing populists who are often hostile to tackling climate change. Brazil’s Jair Bolsonaro abandoned hosting this years’ UN climate talks, while Donald Trump plans to pull out of the Paris Agreement. Fearful inward-looking nationalism means that the internationalism necessary to tackle climate change is being eroded.

The antidote to the rising right-wing populism that Brexit and Boris Johnson are part of, is a Labour government with a Green Industrial Revolution at its heart. And just as Brexit spurred the Trump campaign, a win for Labour would increase the chances of the Democrats in the US reaching office and pursuing a similar Green New Deal. The tide would be turning towards deploying the tools of the state to reshape the economy to seriously tackle climate change.

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You would think the American War of Independence was a hint that the USA no longer looks to Britain for leadership. But clearly at least some members of the British establishment never received the memo.

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December 5, 2019 10:10 pm

It appears that Simon Lewis is also dilaudid. New word meaning of the day, meaning these climate extortionists are not operating in reality. H/T to Bryan A…

Reply to  Earthling2
December 6, 2019 3:31 am

Prof. Lewis has a pretty sloppy profile page (link in article above).

Redundant verbiage, poor punctuation, rambling prose… not the sort of standard one would expect from a professor.

Writing Observer
Reply to  Kurt in Switzerland
December 6, 2019 5:08 am

I would note that Lysenko was also a professor. Not being fluent in Russian (outside of a few profanities), I am unqualified to comment on his writing skills.

Bryan A
Reply to  Writing Observer
December 6, 2019 10:24 am

Labour Manifesto???
Didn’t most Kaczynski type Loons have “Manifestos”?

Reply to  Kurt in Switzerland
December 6, 2019 5:31 am

He proudly asserts that he is a “climate change scientist,” and climate-change science is today’s equivalent of patent snake-oil elixirs of the late 1800s. They are pitched to cure everything, cost a lot, damage your health and property, cure nothing, and the salesman is long gone when one realizes that he has been hornswoggled.

Reply to  Nik
December 6, 2019 5:53 am

Yeah but most of the patent snake-oil elixirs were spiked with opium and/or cocaine.
Happy customers kept buying more for the high.
Today they just use socialist free sh*t programs as the happy juice.
Works great until the money runs out…

Reply to  yirgach
December 6, 2019 11:26 am

“Happy customers kept buying more for the high.”

To be fair, there we no analgesics back then and surgery and things like tooth extractions done without anesthetics and, no doubt, made them very appealing. Not to mention the dearth of medical treatments for many ailments that are easily cured or mitigated today.
We often fail to remember how very lucky we are to be living in this day and age.

Reply to  Kurt in Switzerland
December 6, 2019 5:45 pm

Simon Lewis

Professor of Global Change Science at University of Leeds and, UCL


Simon Lewis

Professor of Global Change Science at University of Leeds and, UCL

Disclosure statement

Simon Lewis has received funding from Natural Environment Research Council, the Royal Society, the European Union, the Leverhulme Trust, the Centre for International Forestry, National Parks Agency of Gabon, Microsoft Research, the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation and the David and Lucile Packard Foundation. He is not a member of the Labour Party but has volunteered as a canvasser at this election.

What in the world is a Global Change Scientist? Give me your dollars and I’ll let you keep the change?
Education, along with Journalism, is dead.

Reply to  Earthling2
December 6, 2019 4:00 am

nonw word needed.
“deluded” – as in delusional. re: the Left

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
December 6, 2019 6:50 am

“It appears that Simon Lewis is also dilaudid. New word meaning of the day, meaning these climate extortionists are not operating in reality.”

Did your spell checker do that? Or was it intentional?

Dilaudid is an opioid pain medication. its chemical name is hydromorphone, and as you might guess it is a direct derivative of morphine. It is so strong that its use in the US is severely restricted.

Are you saying that Lewis is high, i.e. doped out?

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
December 6, 2019 8:09 am

Climate science is like a real powerful opioid drug. It causes foggy delusional ‘vision’. What the faithful think when they see in CO2 see as a pollutant is the result of academic and political pushers of misinformation causing a mass psychosis that normal people become infected with.

Either CO2 is the control knob for the long term climate or it isn’t. My bet is that this has been deliberately turned into a mass delusion that has now overrun the world. Now it is an addiction and out of control globally, like a bad dose of fentanyl and it is going to kill a lot of people if these climate pushers get their way. Future generations will look back to this era and wonder how this fraud was perpetuated on a gullible people for so long.

Reply to  Earthling2
December 6, 2019 7:40 am

I’m a climate change scientist – and I’m campaigning for Labour this election – Corbyn

IF he’s a scientist, why is he involving himself in politics??? (Cash, people. Cash.)

Michael V
Reply to  Sara
December 6, 2019 4:43 pm

Two phrases in the article speak to the real intent of the climate alarmists: “the internationalism necessary to tackle climate change” and “the tools of the state to reshape the economy.” It’s all about establishing a one-world, socialist government.

Reply to  Earthling2
December 6, 2019 7:44 am

“According to climate scientist Simon Lewis, Professor of Global Change Science at the University of Leeds, a victory for the mainstream green Marxist British leader Jeremy Corbyn on 12th December this year will lead to the USA embracing the Green New Deal.”

[Name of deluded academic]: “Well I was there jerking off to a picture of [name of Victoria’s Secret model] when I realized that she really does love me!”

December 5, 2019 10:38 pm

It is all part of the socialist plan to turn the UK into a Venezuela.

Andy in Epsom
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
December 6, 2019 12:16 am

That plan is well advanced. We are now struggling to get any true news in the UK. No mention of the latest riots in France. no mention of people standing in the UK election being forced of the roads in deliberate car crashes by labour (communist) party supporters. It is just like having the brown shirts from the thirties walking around the UK.

Old England
Reply to  Andy in Epsom
December 6, 2019 1:01 am

Andy in Epsom
Labour activists have been spreading the lie to young people that the 70s union strikes, blackouts, rubbish piled in streets and bodies let un-buried Didn’t Happen, and this is Fake News using photo-shopped pictures.

It was a young Labour supporter in Oxford who argued with me that this never happened – insisting it was just Fake News !.

Reply to  Old England
December 6, 2019 3:31 am

That’s too funny. I saw the pictures and the TV footage at the time. And yet Photoshop wasn’t actually released until 1988!

Reply to  ThinkingScientist
December 6, 2019 8:43 am

ThinkingScientist, are you claiming that no one ever modified a photograph prior to publishing it …… until 1988?

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  ThinkingScientist
December 6, 2019 2:23 pm

**ThinkingScientist, are you claiming that no one ever modified a photograph prior to publishing it …… until 1988?**

Read again. “Photoshop wasn’t actually released until 1988”
Other ways may have been.

Reply to  ThinkingScientist
December 7, 2019 7:45 am

Gerald Machnee, you best read again,

I read it again and it still read …… “using photo-shopped pictures” …. with a small “p” and a “hyphen”.

Old England stated …. “this is Fake News using photo-shopped pictures”, ….. a process that has been performed in photography shops since the early days of the profession.

Gerald, ….. when you stated “Photoshop”, …. with a capital “P” and no “hyphen”, …… you were referencing a “trademark” PC computer program, ….. not a process.

And the PC software program was “named” after the process it would be used to perform.

Andy Mansell
Reply to  Old England
December 6, 2019 8:17 am

Unreal, isn’t it? My son’s history teacher, (who looks about 12), ‘taught’ my son that all these issues- the winter of discontent- were caused by Mrs Thatcher who was a cruel and divisive leader that caused mass poverty and hunger! I went to the school to complain, only to be told that I was wrong and that their text books were factual! I pointed out that I was working at the time and was bloody terrified of flying pickets, (mobs of union bully boys driving to places they didn’t even work at to ‘persuade’ everyone to strike), but was told curtly that I must have my dates wrong. I tried pointing out the facts of the defaults, vote of no confidence in the Labour government, etc. but to no avail. Quite scary if you dwell on it for too long. Sadly there is no one remotely of the stature of Mrs T to turn to this time…..

Reply to  Andy Mansell
December 6, 2019 9:26 am

Leftards are teaching their hateful lies to our children. Don’t let them!

Reply to  Andy Mansell
December 6, 2019 10:01 am

I believe it was Orwell how said that those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past, control the future.

old white guy
Reply to  Andy in Epsom
December 6, 2019 5:08 am

The only thing guys like Corbin will do is destroy freedom and cause the death of millions. History can be your guide to the likes of Corbin.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  old white guy
December 6, 2019 8:35 am

Yeah, but what about Corbyn?

Reply to  old white guy
December 6, 2019 11:38 am

There is a delusion peculiar to the Left. I don’t know if people become socialists and then become delusional or are delusional and become Leftists but it is a trait that has persisted for a very long time.

“During the 1930s, some of the leading intellectuals in America condemned our economic system and pointed to the centrally planned Soviet economy as a model — all this at a time when literally millions of people were starving to death in the Soviet Union, from a famine in a country with some of the richest farmland in Europe and historically a large exporter of food”. 

Is there a cure? It doesn’t seem so.

Reply to  KcTaz
December 6, 2019 1:34 pm

This seems to be a recurring pattern.
After the communists took over China, starvation killed millions.
After the communists took over Zimbabwe, the breadbasket of Africa started to suffer from starvation.

William Astley
Reply to  KcTaz
December 6, 2019 3:12 pm

“There is a delusion peculiar to the Left.”

The Left follow delusions. They follow what they believe to be are real causes.

The problem is the Left have removed logic and reason from everything that get involved with.

They become dangerous child-like in their beliefs, post child Justin Trudeau.

Canada’s carbon tax is not going to change world CO2 emissions and Canada has a large trade deficit which requires selling hydrocarbons to balance. Canada large trade deficit is in tourism, Canadian like to go to warm places in the winter.

Trudeau has a never ending list of things which the government must spend money on and is at the same time is enacting policies that are reducing the Canadian economy by 1% of GDP and increasing.

They think of themselves as warriors, for a good cause. Warriors do not need to be thinkers.

The problem is the Left and their Warriors on the path of chaos.

Reply to  KcTaz
December 6, 2019 4:40 pm

Sorry, I should have attributed the quote I posted above. It was Thomas Sowell.

Reply to  KcTaz
December 6, 2019 4:46 pm

William Astley
Proof of what you say is in today’s news. How Leftists and AGWers, if there’s a difference, think there will be any money left to take from the people to pay for all their grandiose notions and stuff their bank accounts when they get done, is beyond me. Then again, the Left is not noted for Logic.

266,000 New American Jobs Created in November Alone What recession? Trump’s economy is booming, unemployment hits lowest level in 50 years

Under Trudeau, Canada Loses 71,000 Jobs, Worst Since Financial Crisis-

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  Andy in Epsom
December 6, 2019 5:47 am

It is just like having the brown shirts from the thirties walking around the UK.

Actually, Sir Oswald Mosley’s British Union of Fascists wore black shirts, just like their left-wing fascist brothers in Italy. So once fascists did roam the sceptered isle. Red/brown/black they are all the same ilk. I always joke that the difference between Soviet Communists and German Nazis is the latter had better uniforms. (see John Cook)

Reply to  Andy in Epsom
December 6, 2019 8:15 am

Really? so I’ve imagined multiple TV and radio reports on French protests and riots? The BBC covered a particularly lurid riot in Nantes, as well as Paris.

Reply to  griff
December 6, 2019 6:20 pm

I don’t watch the BBC. We have many that are just like them like CNN and MSNBC and The NY Times so, I have no need to go across the pond for news.
I have not seen a thing on the French Protests in ages and I watch the news very closely. Perhaps you could share some links to actual broadcasts with pictures about them lately from the BBC or other prominent outlets in the UK or US?

Rich Davis
Reply to  KcTaz
December 7, 2019 3:08 am


Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Andy in Epsom
December 6, 2019 9:19 am

There hasn’t been much coverage of the Yellow Vest riots in the American press either. I occasionally see something, confirming that the issues haven’t been resolved, but it is largely being ignored in favor of Social Justice Warrior protests, Antifa ‘non-atrocities,’ mass murders occurring in gun-free zones, and what clairvoyant Democrats claim was said during The Phone Call.

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
December 8, 2019 3:26 am

and what clairvoyant Democrats claim was said during The Phone Call.

luved it. 🙂

December 5, 2019 10:42 pm

Oh, great!

Eliminate CO2 and plants quit growing our food! Earth starves!

Adopt the Green New Deal (which is just the core) and the ancillary impact kicks in, which is estimated to cost $200 Trillion over 10 years and eliminate 75,000,000 jobs in the US!

And at this point, the techonology for the Green New Deal hasn’t even been invented yet, but we’re supposed to proceed immediately anyway!!

All this makes ZERO sense, has a HUGE downside, and can only be described as the world’s longest, most expensive SUICIDE note ever written!

But then, the Democrats are trying to impeach President Trump using the same approach, which shows they’re at least consistent!!


December 5, 2019 10:55 pm

Corbyn wants to be the lead lemming.

Reply to  Toto
December 6, 2019 2:30 am

You know lemmings don’t really kill themselves that is a misconception thanks to Disney which pushed them off a cliff for a film …. yes lots of lemmings were harmed in the filming of the movie ” White Wilderness”.

Reply to  LdB
December 6, 2019 4:09 am

I thought that was Attenborough and the walruses.

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  Roger
December 6, 2019 5:48 am

Sounds like a cartoon idea for Josh. 🙂

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  LdB
December 6, 2019 9:24 am

Yes, but it makes a convenient meme that brings up vivid mental images of mindless creatures rushing to their demise. Although, perhaps American Bison might be a better example of how the intelligent Indians stampeded the herds over Buffalo Jumps.

Kevin kilty
Reply to  Toto
December 6, 2019 5:50 am

A lead lemming should sink like a stone.

Kevin Lohse
December 5, 2019 11:02 pm

Let’s face it. Ever since the 12 colonies declared their independence because the rightful King of the Americas suggested that the colonies should contribute towards their defence, the US has been on the downward path, leading inexorably to Trump. The Donald pitching up in Europe and telling the EU to contribute more to their defence is pure Karma. :)).
More seriously, Jeremy makes Bernie look positively mainstream politically and the Labour party has serious issues with institutionalised antisemitism which preclude it from taking power in the UK. Both main parties are besotted by the climate scam, the difference being that the Conservatives are slightly more financially aware of the implications of the loonier projects. Brother Piers has the brains of the family, Jeremy in your terms barely graduating from High School. Jeremy has spent his political career supporting any and every cause inimical to the British national interest, so it goes without saying that the US is his personal Great Satan. He has a noisy following, as liberals with a cause will be, but there are plenty of Brits who still value the rapprochement between Britain and the US. Don’t believe everything you see in the MSM.

Reply to  Kevin Lohse
December 6, 2019 12:26 am

Jeremy has spent his political life as a backbencher voting against his own party. He hasn’t a clue about running anything or about leading anything. He was originally put into the leadership election as a token leftie and the other Labour MPs were horrified when he won. Some of them have since quit the party. The chances of a Labour government under his leadership actually accomplishing anything are remote but the risks of a massive screw-up are high. I do not class myself as right wing but I am old enough to remember the last time we had left-wing Labour governments back in the 70s. Carbon dioxide emissions may well reduce when our factories are working a three-day week.
And yes, if that lot comes up with a successful plan on global warming the US will rush to follow. Both things are equally likely.

Old England
Reply to  Susan
December 6, 2019 12:56 am

It gets worse than that Susan, I was at an event in Oxford last Sunday where I was told categorically by a young Labour activist that the 70s strikes, blackouts, rubbish piled in the streets and bodies left un-buried etc because of union action Didn’t Happen.

According to her it is all Fake News spread by the Conservatives using photo-shopped pictures.

It looks like the extreme left are promoting that mantra – despite the miles of archive TV footage, newspaper archives and more. BUT the horrifying thing is that some young people seem to be believing this.

John Tillman
Reply to  Old England
December 6, 2019 3:36 am

I guess they don’t believe their parents or grandparents either.

John Tillman
Reply to  Old England
December 6, 2019 3:57 am

Sadly, it appears that each generation needs to be inoculated by experience against the virus of socialism anew. It’s siren call seduces the innocent, young and naive, ignorant of history and economics.

Reply to  Old England
December 6, 2019 10:03 am

No doubt that archival footage is either being modified or disposed of in order to fit the new narrative.
I thought “1984” was supposed to be a warning, not a how to manual.

Reply to  Kevin Lohse
December 6, 2019 3:00 am

Kevin Lohse,
If you are an honest student of history, the point of contention the Colonies had with Great Britain was “taxation without representation”, which point was made perfectly clear in the Boston Tea Party where Patriots demonstrated they were NOT going to pay the exhorbitant tax the crown had placed on that and practically all other imported goods.

The colonies didn’t get much protection from Great Britain! Indeed, Great Britain was our biggest oppressor, and it appears Great Britain and the rest of Europe still haven’t learned their lesson!

Their comeuppance will be forthcoming soon, however!

M Courtney
Reply to  RockyRoad
December 6, 2019 5:20 am

The colonies didn’t get much protection from Great Britain! Indeed, Great Britain was our biggest oppressor,

The Redcoats were there to protect British citizens from the aggressors. The victims needing protection were the British citizens known as the Iroquois.
It was the British citizens known as the colonists who were the aggressors.
And subsequently, without the “oppression” of the British Army the aggressors ethnically cleansed the continent.
Hardly a tale of liberty and equality.
For further reading, look up “slavery”.

Robert Brewer
Reply to  M Courtney
December 6, 2019 7:49 am

That is a rather dishonest and insulting rewrite of history.

Great Britain wasn’t acting to “protect” the Iroquois. It was acting to restrain the colonists and keep them “manageable” as their administrative resources were stretched and they were experiencing difficulties handling the colonies. Also they were tired of the constant warfare in the new world and did not wish another war with French settlers and Natives living west of the Appalachian mountain range. Which they felt would be kicked up if English colonists pushed westward.

Americans did not ethnically cleanse anyone. Upwards of 90% of the “Native” population that resides in what is now the US died from disease unintentionally transmitted from Europeans to the Natives. And yes, there were incidents where infection was intentionally caused, it was not widespread and it wasn’t government policy or sanctioned by the government of the citizens at large.

Read Guns, Germs and Steel for more info on that. You may not like Americans but it is beyond insulting to accuse us of such a heinous crime that we did not commit.

As an interesting side note, the first documented case involving intentionally infecting Natives (germ warfare) was the British army infecting natives at the siege of Fort Pitt. It was also believed the British engaged in germ warfare against American colonists during the War of independence and the war of 1812 both when the US invaded Canada and again when the British invaded Virginia. So perhaps you shouldn’t be so quick to throw stones at us?

Also, it is estimated that the average European American has approximately .2% Native DNA. There are approximately 197 million “white non latino” Americans today. If you were to separate the native DNA you would have approximately 39.5 million natives. Which is more then double the number of even the high estimates of the native population before European colonization And doesn’t include the current “native” population of approximately 600k. We didn’t ethically cleanse anyone, we assimilated the majority of the survivors.

TLDR: There is more “Native” DNA now then before. If that was even attempted ethnic cleansing, it was a very poor job.

Try reading the journals of Lewis and Clark or the even the Pilgrims. They all describe evidence of habitation, however the land itself was empty and the villages abandoned. The villagers either entirely wiped out by disease or survivors would unfortunately flee to friendly villages and take the disease with them.

Additionally, the US government made attempts to protect the Native tribes from disease. This effort was frustrated by a lack of trust by the Native tribes living within the US.

And as to the grievances the colonists had, well look to our bill of rights. The majority of them are a result of the British crown violating or withdrawing the rights that all Englishmen held under common law. The British restricted our right to free speech and assembly and they forced us to quarter their soldiers that they used to oppress us. They would arrest citizens and toss them in jail without any “due process”. Furthermore, the Battle of Lexington (which sparked the war itself), was the British Army marching on Lexington to seize the “arms” and munitions of the Colonists so that they couldn’t resist the Crown.

Slavery was brought to the US by Great Britain and other European powers. And it wasn’t just Africans, forced servitude “indentured service” was forced on many the British government viewed as “undesirable”.

In fact, the first black slaves brought to the American colonies were “indentured servants”. It was a British court that later ruled blacks could be held in perpetuity (ie kept as slaves) when the “owner” of one of the indentured servants sued to have his “property” returned to him after the terms of the contract expired and the black man went to work on someone else’s land.

Even while failing to outlaw slavery at the outset the US banned the importation of new slaves a mere 20 years after our constitution was ratified. It is a black eye on our country, but the European powers are not innocent. Moreover, the US is hardly alone in being a victim of slavery. In fact, the US only imported a small percent of the total number of slaves brought to the new world. Of the 10.7 million slaves brought to the Americas only 388k were brought to North America. If anyone should be asked to pay reparations, apologize or be publicly castigated over the issue it should be the European powers and the trading companies that brought it to the Americas and the Islamic countries that were enslaving Non-Islamic Africans (and still are today).

Reply to  Robert Brewer
December 6, 2019 7:20 pm

I can’t find my link to this, (a full glass of water onto a laptop keyboard, this time, even defeated Apple from recovery of data) but the Brit’s and the US stopped the trans-
Atlantic trade of African slaves around the 1830s. What motivated them? This.
Jefferson Versus the Muslim Pirates
America’s first confrontation with the Islamic world helped forge a new nation’s character.
Christopher Hitchens
Many British and American seamen were taken into slavery by the Muslim pirates and the lucky ones who were saved came home and told their stories, horrifying our nations and gave a strong impetus to the anti-slavery, Abolition Movement. England managed to end it without a Civil War but their interests in slavery were not as great as in America.
It was Portugal and Spain, primarily, who continued running slaves to the New World until the Brits and Americans stopped them with warships.
The Left will never teach that.
I find the silence of the vocal Left regarding the Human
Trafficking and Slave trade with open air markets in Libya and Muslims buying slaves today, even though it has finally been outlawed in most of them, the authorities turn a blind eye to it.
Perhaps, like with so many things, it’s much easier to complain and condemn those long dead and a past that cannot be changed than to actually change the same evils going on today. To me, seeing an evil today and not doing all you can to combat it while complaining about people from the past who lived in a much different world for not changing their’s, is worse than what the people whom they are complaining about.

Reply to  M Courtney
December 6, 2019 10:04 am

Speaking of socialists re-writing history.
As to slavery, it was the British who brought the slaves to the Americas.

Reply to  M Courtney
December 6, 2019 2:30 pm

“Mercantilism” – look it up.

Smart Rock
Reply to  RockyRoad
December 6, 2019 9:13 am

And you still can’t get a decent cup of tea in America

John Tillman
Reply to  Kevin Lohse
December 6, 2019 3:39 am

Thirteen colonies backed independence, but, granted, some of them were tiny.

James McCown
Reply to  Kevin Lohse
December 6, 2019 5:52 am

Kevin, the ‘rightful King’ provided very little ‘defence’ of the colonies. During the 7 year war, the French encouraged the Indians to attack the Ulstermen and Germans who had settled on the frontiers of Pennsylvania and Virginia. The Germans retreated but the Ulstermen fought back like the devil himself, often taking the war to the Indians’ villages. Not the first time, nor the last time that people have been forced to take matters into their own hands.

Reply to  James McCown
December 6, 2019 5:21 pm

I love the term “rightful King”, or as I call all current existing royalty, the progeny of the last murderers. Every “Royal” family murdered their way to the top. And the lucky families did the murdering just before the people forced them to become figureheads.

On the same note, the NATIVEs in the new world were just the last wave of occupiers to enter America before the Europeans did. The previous waves were continuously pushed out by the newest Asians to come to North America. Those newer migrations were also “invaders”. That is why American “natives” got laws put in place to “respect” human remains so that DNA tests COULD NOT be done on new discoveries of OLD remains, which could, and most certainly would, prove the above hypothesis and end the claims of OUR LAND.

To the victors go the spoils, except for the US after WWII. We not only freed the world, we continue to spend exorbitant amounts to maintain such freedom. It is long past time for the rest of the world to repay US. The entire US Debt is the result of the expense of and compounded interest on the cost of WWII. Without that debt, the US would Really be a wealthy country. I say Trump send out the bills to all involved.

BTW: Great bunch of royalty Britain has now. Are you ready to throw off the yoke? We all can see now that Clinton was royalty in the US re his and Andrew’s Epstein episodes. Birds of a feather.

Reply to  Kevin Lohse
December 6, 2019 11:47 am

Kevin, thank you for the insight. I don’t think many Americans of a sane nature think the UK is crazy enough to elect Corbin.
Personally, I get the feeling Corbin has never forgiven America or the UK for defeating the Nazis. They do seem to have had his ideal governing style to include his opinions about the Jewish people.

December 5, 2019 11:12 pm

Climate scientists may be some kind of scientist perhaps corrupted by activism but “climate change scientists” are pure activists who need the word “scientist” to sell their activism.

John F. Hultquist
December 5, 2019 11:13 pm

Being a “climate change scientist” should drive a person bonkers.
(Unless real climates and actual changes are studied)
The standard climate change scientists that we have gotten to know and love
haven’t managed to get anything correct in 40 years. That must be hard
on the ego. I think Simon Lewis shows symptoms.
Family and friends should see that he gets help.

December 5, 2019 11:16 pm

Mr Corbyn is a charming, erudite, well educated, intelligent, if a little eccentric, man.
His younger brother, however, is a total tool.

David Guy-Johnson
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
December 5, 2019 11:54 pm

That gave me a big laugh. The policies he espouses prove that he is not intelligent. He is also not in the least bit charming. He is ratty and ill mannered unless he’s getting his way. He is stuck in the mindset of an out and out stalinist circa 1970 and has been on the wrong side of history ever since. His brother definitely has a monopoly on whatever brains the family possesses.

Jay Willis
Reply to  David Guy-Johnson
December 6, 2019 7:56 am

David….”has been on the wrong side of history ever since”

Depends which side you are on I guess: Apartheid, Chile, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq again, Syria, dialogue with Sinn Fein, the miners, tuition fees, etc., etc. I know which side I’d like my politicians to be on, against military adventures in poor countries that are absolutely no possible threat to me and mine and into dialogue and peace. Anyhow, each to his or her own.

But it is interesting for the point of view of WUWT. Because I do disagree with him on climate change, and I guess it is a compromise one has to make in politics. Rather like Trump, with whom I think I agree on climate, although he is inconsistent and imprecise, but with whom I entirely disagree on practically every other issue.

It just goes to show that one should not expect somebody who agrees with you on one issue to agree with you on all others. I would like readers of WUWT to know that many people who would broadly class themselves as left wing or natural democrat hold just as rational opions about climate as anyone else (Freeman Dyson being a great example).

Andy Mansell
Reply to  Jay Willis
December 6, 2019 8:24 am

Please explain the Apartheid comment?

jim hogg
Reply to  Andy Mansell
December 7, 2019 4:28 am

From the context it looks like he agreed with Jeremy Corbyn’s anti Apartheid position. Corbyn was arrested in 1984 for protesting against Apartheid in S Africa. Only the rabid right in the UK were supportive of the Apartheid regime, though Thatcher argued against sanctions, and wasn’t too impressed with Mandela – who remained on the US terrorist watch list until 2008, much to Condoleezza Rice’s embarrassment apparently.

By the way, the mainstream media in the UK is dominated by the right and its support for Boris Johnson and the tory party is clear (esp in their relentless ongoing efforts to smear Corbyn), despite what you might have read or deduced from prior comments. Nor has there been any serious attempt to rewrite the history of the 70s. Over-reach by the unions is widely accepted, and this was against the values, wishes and efforts of the 4 leftish wing governments under Wilson and Callaghan from 64-70 and 74-79, all of which struggled in vain to keep the unions in check (as did the tories under Heath – despite union leaders of the time claiming that Heath was easier to deal with than Wilson). When Thatcher came to power in ’79 she was prepared to take the unions on, but popular sympathy for them was already on the wane, and this (reflective of changing attitudes) as much as more restrictive laws slowly but surely helped bring an end to union dominance.

And Jay is quite right about assumptions that lump the left with AGW supporters. As I’ve made clear on here often, my politics are libertarian left but I’m sceptical of the AGW case, and, of most of the arguments against it too, admittedly, on grounds of logic and evidence. We don’t know enough to be making strong claims about the future of our climate. It’s much too complex, with probably significant unknown unknowns yet to be discovered. Until we can be certain about the limits of natural variation (and how would we discover those?) we can’t be certain about the AGW case and arguments against it.

Reply to  Andy Mansell
December 7, 2019 12:48 pm

Mainstream media in UK is dominated by the right? Say What?

Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
December 6, 2019 12:00 am

You may need to explain that one – hopefully not. Good comment though.

Reply to  Redge
December 6, 2019 1:49 am

“Mr Corbyn is a charming, erudite, well educated, intelligent, if a little eccentric, man.
His younger brother, however, is a total tool.”

Let me explain that one…

Piers Richard Corbyn (born 10 March 1947) is an English weather forecaster who owns forecasting website WeatherAction.
He is the elder brother of Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn (born 26 May, 1949)

Chaswarnertoo – DONT insult tools, tools are useful !

Gerry, England
Reply to  saveenergy
December 6, 2019 6:10 am

He is an astro-physicist having studied at Imperial College, London along with Brian May of Queen.

Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
December 6, 2019 1:02 am

Corbyn Junior is a shouty, look-at-me student politician who is mentally marooned in the 1970’s.

shortus cynicus
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
December 6, 2019 1:30 am

Since when are wannabe muss murderes charming? Are nazis, who killed less then comunists, also charming?

Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
December 6, 2019 6:07 am

yeah Piers is a nice chap
I sorta figure Jeremy isnt a real brother but an elevn swapsie

Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
December 6, 2019 7:16 am

Judging by some of the responses, I guess you should have explained

Rod Evans
December 5, 2019 11:31 pm

Just to bring a note of balance to things re Jeremy Corbyn the leader of the British Labour Party.
Jeremy Corbyn is an idiot. He is a self proclaimed Marxist and is as uneducated as it is possible to be in the present age. He could not even achieve a school certificate and never went to college has no qualifications and has never held down a paying job, other than as a union representative then an elected public representative in a safe (rotten borough) labour constituency, in his life
He thought inviting the IRA leaders to come and have tea in his Westminster HoC office was a great idea, just days after they had bomber a British Cabinet minister for Northern Ireland Airey Neave MP, in the Palace of Westminster’s car park. Jeremy then went on to befriend some of the most notoriously terrorist terrorists, even laying a wreath on the tomb of the Hamas (Black September) murderers, who killed Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympics. He was even filmed praying with the Islamic group at that wreath laying occasion! He thinks Venezuela is a well run socialist country and refuses to condemn the actions of the government there. He is one week away from losing a general election here in the UK and will be fired from his role as Leader of the Labour Party shortly after that.
Even the Labour Party can’t stand the Maxist Corbyn, but all efforts to sack him have so far failed.
With that as the background re Jeremy Corbyn, it would be unwise to pay too much attention to what he says, no rational person ever does.

December 5, 2019 11:58 pm

Makes me wonder is Piers appears to be supporting his brother to be PM when their policies on Climate Change are the exact opposite to each other?

December 6, 2019 12:03 am

Without wanting to Big Up Labour or Corbyn, does anybody think that Johnson and his Clown Show would be any better ?

Reply to  Fanakapan
December 6, 2019 12:16 am

I think we have a whole bunch of self-serving clowns wanting to be MP’s in the UK, none of them worthy of my vote.

Gone are the days when we had the likes of Churchill and Thatcher leading us as a nation, never to return I fear.

Reply to  Redge
December 6, 2019 3:32 pm

You could add Clem, Ernie, and Aneurin to the list ?

The business of painting Labour as raging Commies does seem reminiscent of what the Tories were trying in 45. Then as now the Conservatives were a party that was worn out and needed a spell in opposition to reinvigorate. The dangers of what Labour then was proposing were, as now, pumped up to preposterous levels, but proved to be fairly sensible, and quite a spur to a system that was flagging.

Clearly, and if viewed through only the lens of CC, then Labour seem rather more keen than the Tories, but it remains the case that after decades of climate doom being waved around, no politician at this point can proclaim it guff. Even seeming to be soft on the issue could well be detrimental to any seeking election. So it may be that all of the political utterances on the issue at this time should be taken with a pinch of salt ?

Russ Wood
Reply to  Redge
December 8, 2019 6:11 am

In many cases, I believe one can still vote for the “Monster Raving Loony” party – although how one can tell the difference, I dunno!

David Guy-Johnson
Reply to  Fanakapan
December 6, 2019 12:16 am

I know many that do. Many are traditionally Labour voters as well. At least Johnson is a patriot. The fingernail of one of his front bench team, contains more economic good sense than the entirety of Corbyn’s would be cabinet.

M Courtney
Reply to  David Guy-Johnson
December 6, 2019 5:25 am

At least Johnson is a patriot.

But for which country?
Remember the papers on Russian interference in UK politics are being suppressed at his command. They clearly are incriminating for somebody and that somebody obviously isn’t Corbyn.

And when he was Foreign Secretary (before being sacked for dishonesty) Johnson had restricted access to intelligence because he was deemed a security risk.

Reply to  M Courtney
December 6, 2019 6:11 am

oh FFS! really?
the russian crapola is waaay booring and utter rubbish and Pelosi again dribbling on about it as well is a hoot.
Putin doesnt have to do anything but sit back and watch the ownside ruination both in UK and usa

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ozspeaksup
December 6, 2019 8:10 am

Yes, Puting doesn’t have to try to destroy the US and UK from within. He can count on our home-grown socialists to do that job for him.

The Democrats say the Russians want to divide the people of the United States. But it’s the Democrats who are dividing the United States and they are doing a much better job of it than Putin could ever hope to do.

Radical Democrats/Socialists = Domestic Enemies

M Courtney
Reply to  David Guy-Johnson
December 6, 2019 5:31 am

For further reading on why the FBI is concerned about Boris see this link:

Reply to  M Courtney
December 6, 2019 5:02 pm

M Courtney,

That article seems pretty thin gruel for proving Boris is a Russian agent or, whatever. The strongest case may be the alleged connection with Misfud but he works for the FBI and US Intelligence and is their agent, unless, of course, he’s a double agent. We have no reason to believe he is as he did the US Gov’s, specifically, the FBI’s bidding for them.
I suggest you not trust whatever the FBI, US Intel or British Intel says. I suspect if Johnson was hiding anything, it would be the Brit’s part in their attempts to interfere in the 2016 US election by digging up fake dirt on Trump and the attempted coup after Trump won.

Martin A
Reply to  Fanakapan
December 6, 2019 12:22 am

Boris Johnson did not do a bad job as Mayor of London from 2008 – 2012 and was re-elected serving another four years.

Ken Irwin
December 6, 2019 12:14 am

I just love the doublespeak of these politicians – the use of the word “investment” when all they mean is “spend” and “taxation”.
All the current crop of British politicians seem to have access to a money tree and seem to think that promising the electoral cannon fodder more and more profligate spending is a way to earn votes.
Unfortunately this may work..

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.”

― Alexander Fraser Tytler

Kone Wone
December 6, 2019 12:16 am

Another example of Nicholas Nassim Taleb’s IYI syndrome (Intellectual Yet Idiot)

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Kone Wone
December 6, 2019 8:15 am

There seem to be a large number of IYI’s. I don’t know what percentage of the population they might represent. I guess we’ll know a lot more about that after the next US presidential election in November of 2020.

Yeah, a lot of people that should know better, somehow don’t know better. I think this is the biggest puzzle of them all. A puzzle with a lot of pieces.

December 6, 2019 12:29 am

“climate change science” is an oxymoron since “climate change” is nothing but a propaganda expression used to embrace anything and its opposite provided it can be interpreted as being bad.

Therefore, “climate change scientist” equals “crook”.

December 6, 2019 12:53 am

Trust me. Jeremy Corbyn is not and never has been a member of the ‘British Establishment’. He would be mortified to hear himself described in that way. Keep it up.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 6, 2019 5:09 am

Where he got 2 Es ( fail ) at A level while his brother got a First in astrophysics at Imperial.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
December 6, 2019 2:13 pm

‘E’ is not a fail at ‘A Level’, it’s the lowest pass.

A fail is an ‘O’ which is the equivalent of an ‘O Level’ pass, or an ‘F’ which is a complete fail.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 6, 2019 11:15 am


“You would think the American War of Independence was a hint that the USA no longer looks to Britain for leadership. But clearly at least some members of the British establishment never received the memo.”

This is simply Priceless! Thank you.

Donald Boughton
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 6, 2019 12:25 pm

His parents wasted their money spending it on private schools for Jeremy Corbyn.

December 6, 2019 12:59 am

In the UK, in the name of either reversing Brexit and remaining in the EU, or as here in the name of saving the planet from global warming, commenters and some of the media are ready to endorse Corbyn.

Corbyn, McDonnell and Milne together have an economic agenda bordering on madness.

For example, they would make Internet provision a state monopoly, first by taking over the largest network supplier, British Telecom at a price to be determined by Parliament, and then giving every household in the country fibre to the home totally free of charge. Also nationalizing the railways, and then dropping commuter fares by one-third.

In all this would result in the state takeover of about 4% of the UK economy in the first term, and its only the tip of the iceberg. There would also be a huge program of investment in so far unspecified infrastructure, particularly in the north and various other large giveaways.

This would be accompanied by the legislation of a four day wee. And in addition, all restraints in union strike action would be removed.

But this is probably the least alarming thing about the prospects of a Corbyn government. The real worry is the intimate relations they have had with terrorists of all persuasions, including the IRA and just about every Islamist terrorist group or apologizer there is. The Labour Party under Corbyn has become anti-semitic through and through. Read the brief filed with the Equalities Commission by Jewish Labour Movement. It reveals meetings in which Jewish members were subjected to the vilest kind of name calling. Look at the record of Corbyn and McDonnell’s dealings with the IRA.

Hint, they opposed the peace agreement.

Look at who Corbyn acted for as a keynote speaker at a Gala Dinner in June of this year. The Islam channel, which has endorsed marital rape and broadcast anti-semitic hate, and in consequence both censored and fined by Ofcom.

All this is the tip of the iceberg. The Corbyn/Milne/McDonnell/Murray agenda is domestically the recreation of East Germany in Britain. And in foreign affairs it is the elimination of the state of Israel, an objective driven by their obsessive anti-semitism, and links to any left-fascist regime they can find that is anti-American and anti-British.

Don’t worry about their climate views, don’t worry about their economic policies. Worry about serious attempts to abolish democracy, introduce a Party dictatorship and a police state.

This is not the Labour Party any more. This is Militant and Socialist Worker combined, in charge of what used to be the Labour Party. With the rest of the former Labour Party going along with it, because Party loyalty and hatred of the Tories is a dogma even among them, and they don’t realize that after the Jews, their turn is going to come next.

This is Britain, and the year is 1933.

Chris Wright
Reply to  michel
December 6, 2019 3:00 am

Very well said. Although Johnson is not perfect – sadly he’s been spouting the usual climate change nonsense – he’s several million times better than Corbyn.

Ironically Corbyn is actually a euro sceptic – it’s rumoured he voted Leave. But he removed all the anti-EU material from his website before the 2017 election. He keeps his anti-EU opinions to himself, presumably in an attempt to maintain unity in his party.
Corbyn as the prime minister of the UK really would be a catastrophe.

Russ Wood
Reply to  michel
December 8, 2019 6:15 am

“legislation of a four day wee”? Now, I’m on Lasix (TM) to control my blood pressure, but even with such a diuretic, I don’t think that it would be possible country-wide.

Matthew Sykes
December 6, 2019 1:00 am

Oh, you mean the ‘English Civil War part II’. 🙂

Kelvin Vaughan
December 6, 2019 1:12 am

Climate Change is making Christmas longer each year. It only used to be 3 days, now its a month and a half. We must stop this as we are reaching a tipping point where by 2030 Christmas will last all year.
Merry Christmas everyone.

Reply to  Kelvin Vaughan
December 6, 2019 6:11 am

I’ve noticed that too.

Stephen Richards
December 6, 2019 1:12 am

Global Change Science ? WTF is that ?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Stephen Richards
December 6, 2019 9:34 am

The meaning depends on where one puts a hyphen.

Flight Level
December 6, 2019 1:24 am

“Professor of Global Change Science” ???

Global Change Science ? Professor ? Huh ? Are cristal balls, tarot cards and pendulums involved in the process ?

That’s definitively gone too far in HarryPoterLand.

Reply to  Flight Level
December 6, 2019 10:00 am

More like entrails, bone rattles and zombie dust like any other, practicing, witchdoctor.

Flight Level
Reply to  Max
December 6, 2019 3:43 pm

Oh yes, they sure promote a very deteriorated definition of science. How sad.

Rod Evans
December 6, 2019 1:29 am

Has anyone asked the member of the Corbyn family who has the brains, i.e. Piers Corbyn, what he thinks of his mad brother’s intention to destroy the economy while achieving absolutely zero effect on climate change?
The good news is Jeremy Corbyn is unlikely to be leader of the Labour Party after next Thursday.

Reply to  Rod Evans
December 6, 2019 1:48 am

Like most people, you are missing the point. The threat to the economy is trivial and unimportant compared to the threat to democracy itself.

Yes, they will tank the economy. But you will not have time to worry about that when you are confronted with a serious attempt to convert Britain into a police state on the lines of East Germany, complete with state monopoly of Internet provision, a secret police and government by decree.

The first thing a Corbyn administration will do is to seek the passage of enabling legislation, and having got that through, with the collusion of the moderate old Labour MPs, they will simply rule by decree. Their model of what to achieve is East Germany. The way there was shown by the end of Weimar in 1933.

john cooknell
December 6, 2019 1:31 am

I am voting Monster Raving Looney Party, and so are the rest of you!

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  john cooknell
December 6, 2019 2:20 pm

Here in Oz we have the sex party. I always give them a preference vote. Then they have the weed party (forgotten the actual name) who want to legalise weed.

I’m campaigning for a new ‘rock n roll’ party. They can then all join up and form the ‘Sex, Drugs & Rock n Roll’ coalition. Now there’s a party I’d vote for!

December 6, 2019 1:36 am

JEREMY CORBYN launched astonishing ( I’m greener than you ) pledge on Wednesday when he announced his party would plant two billion trees by 2040 –
– the equivalent of 200 trees a minute, every minute … between now & 2040
If they are planted every 2m it would cover an area greater than Somerset & Cornwall combined !

Reply to  saveenergy
December 6, 2019 10:10 am

Will there be any room left for people after they finish planting 2 billion trees?

At least we can be sure the trees will vote as their told.

Coeur de Lion
December 6, 2019 1:39 am

As a ‘climate scientist’ he hasn’t done his sums regarding ‘wind and solar’ nor ‘home insulation’. The level of delusion is remarkable.

Peter Jennings
December 6, 2019 1:46 am

Let’s hope, for those of us in the UK, that Jeremy listens to his brother who is better clued up than anyone on the subject of climate change.

I would urge anyone with access to Jeremy to start calling his attention to what real scientists are trying to expose, before their careers are ruined by career social signalers.
Let’s hope Jeremy’s current stance is because he is aware that all the young folk, and quite a few older folk who should know better, are brainwashed into believing the misinfo to such an extent that he would be committing political suicide to oppose it now.
Here’s hoping.

December 6, 2019 1:55 am

Corbyn strikes me as someone who wants to hurt others, but is afraid to for fear of someone hurting him – an armchair terrorist.

December 6, 2019 2:10 am

a person who is studying or has expert knowledge of one or more of the natural or physical sciences.
That is not very well defined criteria is it? “Is studying”?
No wonder credibility of real science is eroding.

Dodgy Geezer
December 6, 2019 2:15 am

Most of the comments above are pointless.

These quotes from politicians bear no relationship to what they would do if they got into power. They are just saying these things to encourage different groups of supporters to vote for them.

If a politician (of any party) arrives at a town with a big car plant he will extol the virtues of road transport. The next day he will be telling a railway-manufacturing conference that the future of transport is rail. His speech-writers will be busy re-jigging the words of his first speech to apply to air transport for the next whistle-stop, and by the end of the week he will be talking about how he will improve sea freight at the nearest port….

I suspect that much of the press reaction has been factored in, and is an intentional part of the message. So, to encourage Greens to vote for you, you say a controversial Green thing to a journalist who will write a piece attacking it. That attack will reach a lot of your supporters, who will be convinced that you are really Green, since the press are smearing you for it….

Jim C
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
December 6, 2019 3:47 am

Yes, they’ll say anything to get into power. It’s amazing to watch. But you can see why they do it: the bulk of the population seem to fall for it every time.

I take the anti-Semitism accusations with a very large pinch of salt. But Corbyn & Co. are definitely Marxists, and would love to nationalise much of British industry.

Have they weighed the expense of rolling out fiber to every home against the increase in productivity that having faster online connections would enable? I doubt it. They seem unable to grasp the difference between spending and investment.

The same applies to their “investment” in green energy, of course.

Andy Mansell
Reply to  Jim C
December 6, 2019 8:37 am

‘I take the anti-Semitism accusations with a very large pinch of salt. ‘
You need to listen to Maureen Lipman amongst other Jewish, ex-Labour members.

Reply to  Andy Mansell
December 7, 2019 8:35 am

Several former Labour MPs – some, but not all, Jewish – have left the UK Labour Party over the anti-Semitic actions and words of, it appears, many near the top of the Party. John Mann, Joan Ryan and Luciana Berger, included.


Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
December 6, 2019 5:57 am

They say those things to entice people to vote for them, because those are the things the voters want.

The danger is not that a specific politician may do a ‘green’ absurdity, but that a great many voters support that absurdity. Sooner or later, the voters will ultimately elect someone who will carry through with at least some of the promises. Labour nationalized the utilities before Thatcher. If they do that again, an all-out pursuit of the Green policies would devastate the country’s electrical grid.

In the 1950s and 60s, no major party candidate in the US would espouse socialism. It would be a career killer. Today, not only is it acceptable to voters, it is fashionably ‘woke’. Sanders and Warren aren’t the danger; it’s the fact that they have so many supporters.

December 6, 2019 2:21 am

No scientist there. reducing something that is not the cause cannot provide a solution. It will, however, bankrupt the country. Happy days.

December 6, 2019 2:22 am

Jeremy Corbyn – Far Left!? Good grief… if that’s what you think, then your political spectrum is seriously in need of recalibration! This from a country that sees the Democrats as Communists! If Corbyn is Far Left, that would make Trump a Far Right White Supremacist misogynistic cretin… oh wait, he actually is!

BTW… it’s the Tories that have tanked the economy – that’s already been done, and when they get in again, it’ll get even worse. Perhaps you haven’t noticed, or figured out that thanks to the Tories, the UK now has the worst form of capitalism imaginable. I used to think the people here were literate, learned, intelligent, thoughtful, moderate and civilised. Just goes to show how wrong you can be.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Adrian Mann
December 6, 2019 2:54 am

Sounds like you didn’t experience the Labour years before Thatcher. Do you remember 1979?

Reply to  Adrian Mann
December 6, 2019 3:00 am

You know how stupid the average person is;

Remember that 50% are stupider than that !!

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  saveenergy
December 6, 2019 9:40 am

At least 50% of voting adults when you take into account traumatic head injuries from sports activities and motorcycle crashes, brain cells killed from chronic overdoses of alcohol and recreational drugs, and dementia in the elderly.

Reply to  Adrian Mann
December 6, 2019 4:07 am

Who would you consider to be to the left of Corbyn, and on what basis?

On any measure, foreign policy, defence, role of the state, fiscal policy, taxation…. he and his associates are well to the left of any regime that has ever come close to office in Europe. Well to the left of any previous Labour Party leader.

He is well to left of Attlee, for instance. Well to the left of Michael Foot.

How much further left can you get? I guess there is always the Mao of the Great Leap Forward, or perhaps Pol Pot. Give him a few months, and he may get there.

Reply to  Adrian Mann
December 6, 2019 6:18 am

You must be very young. Here is a clue: which countries, and what leaders, past and present, favored nationalism of industries, like Corbyn?
And only a very poorly educated person would believe Trump is a white supremacist. I think your mistake is in thinking you are literate, learned, intelligent, moderate, and civilized. You have proven yourself otherwise.

Andy Mansell
Reply to  Adrian Mann
December 6, 2019 8:41 am

If JC isn’t far left, then what would you class him as? Are you seriously suggesting that he would be a better choice to run the economy? That’s before we get onto things like Diane Abbott….

Reply to  Adrian Mann
December 6, 2019 10:18 am

It really fascinates me how those on the far left actually believe that they are middle of the road politically.
I guess it comes from refusing to associate with anyone to the right of them, therefore leading them to believe that they are the mainstream.

Trump is only far right compared to communism, there is nothing white supremacist about him, and while he’s crude, claiming misogynist can’t be supported either. This is just another example of the left declaring that anyone who dares to oppose them is evil, then just applying all the evil labels that they can think of to that person.

The worst form of capitalism is what you in Britain suffer from, it’s capitalism that is being controlled by the government. Of course that isn’t capitalism, it’s socialism. But then most leftists declare that anything that isn’t pure communism is some form of capitalism.

December 6, 2019 2:27 am

Corbyn will save the world?

What a load of tosh!

December 6, 2019 2:33 am

Bring it on. If the British people are so stupid as to vote for this then they deserve what they get – and they will get much: massive rises in electricity prices; a run on the pound as productivity dives and public debt sky rocket; imported inflation as the result of the previous; brown outs, black outs leading to further drops in productivity; transport dysfunction as people can’t get to work after either ICE cars banned or there’s insufficient power to charge their Nissan Leafs.

But the good news is, after that economic apocalypse, extinction rebellion won’t be welcome anywhere in the country, and climate change will just be a toxic label for austerity economics on steroids. And Labour will cease to exist as a serious political party.

Patrick MJD
December 6, 2019 2:50 am

He wants to nationalise everything (I sort of agree with utilities because privatised utilities don’t have a great track record for users unless you are a major “shareholder”), INCLUDING the NATIONAL health service. Part funding of this boondoggle policy, he intends to raid the savings of retirees.

I have a feeling the Tories will be in power before the end of the year.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
December 6, 2019 6:30 am

Just what do you think the result would be if Corbyn nationalised electrical production, with a strong Green influence in his government? The best business would be selling candles.

There is another option for utes: co-operatives. My electrical utility is a co-operative, and every customer is a voting member. We pay about $0.11 per KWh (it’s tiered, based on usage), and we give ourselves refunds every December if fuel costs come in under what was projected. We have one of the lowest rates in the nation, and highest level of customer satisfaction. Better still, the government’s public service commission leaves us alone.

BTW, power is produced via hydro, NG, and coal. They pay lip service to renewables, but do the minimum.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  jtom
December 6, 2019 6:08 pm

I am thinking more water utilities, traditional power utilities are dead in favour of renewables. This was all kicked off and set in stone in the UK in 2008, and there is, apparently, no going back.

Utilities like Thames Water (TW) for instance was sold off to MacQuarie Bank (Australian) in 2006, forced TW to borrow billions of pounds in 2007/2010 which benefited no-one but the Bank and it’s “investors”, stripped TW of all saleable assets leaving TW customers with a massive bill. There are many examples of this in the UK (And Australia) where a public asset, paid for in full by taxes, is sold to private “investors” ultimately failing their customers and raising costs.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
December 6, 2019 10:22 am

Privately owned utilities have to get permission from the government in order to sneeze.
The reason why privately owned utilities don’t do well is that politicians can use them as scape goats for everything that goes wrong.
Do you think the utilities in California would have been sued over last years wild fires had they been government owned? Of course not.
Do you believe they would have done a better job of maintaining their equipment? Of course not.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  MarkW
December 6, 2019 5:57 pm

Funny. You haven’t seen how utilities are “run” in the UK or Australia.

Patrick MJD
December 6, 2019 2:53 am

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BSc with First Class Honours in Ecology, University of Leeds.
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Phillips, O.L., Baker, T., Malhi, Y., Lewis, S.L. Ecological changes in old-growth neotropical forests, at the October 2003 BIOMERGE Adapative Synthesis II workshop, Missouri Botanical Garden, St. Louis, Missouri, U.S.A. [Presented by Phillips]
Lewis, S.L., Phillips, O.P., Malhi, Y. & 27 others. Impacts of global change on tropical forest dynamics, at the September 2003 British Ecological Society annual meeting, University of Manchester, U.K. [Presented by Lewis]
Lewis, S.L., Phillips, O.P., Malhi, Y. & 27 others. Impacts of global change on tropical forest dynamics, at the July 2003 Association for Tropical Biology & Conservation international meeting, University of Aberdeen, Scotland. [Presented by Lewis]
Lewis, S.L., Phillips, O., and Malhi, Y. August 2002. The What’s driving global changes in tropical forests?: a framework for testing causal mechanisms, hypotheses, and some initial results. Association for Tropical Biology, STRI, Panama: Tropical Forests, Past, Present, Future. [Presented by Lewis]”

So this is what passes as climate science qualifications these days?

Victor Ian Hanby
Reply to  Patrick MJD
December 6, 2019 6:19 am

Back in the day, after your CV had been (hopefully) approved by external assessors, you were asked to suggest a title to accompany your elevation to the professoriate. This was expected to reflect your field of eminence and the title would be approved by a sub-committee and signed off by the VC. However, the sub-committee might not be of a congruent background with the applicant, and some odd titles could get through.

I recall ‘Professor of structural engineering’ for someone whose entire research output was in construction management and ‘Professor of low-carbon society’ (?) So titles can be chosen to give a spin and sometimes it works.

Alan Haile
December 6, 2019 4:00 am

Another famous Englishman called Eric Morcambe had a catchphrase which fits my opinion of Simon Lewis, it was, ‘This boy’s a fool’.

Trying to Play Nice
December 6, 2019 4:21 am

The Brits are still under the delusion that the UK is a world power and the leader of a great empire. After all they won two world wars, didn’t they (never mind Dunkirk and the loss of France in 40 days)? The world media may think that President Trump will be impeached and removed from office in a few weeks, but he most likely will be President for 5 more years. Americans do not look to the English for advice and counsel.

Fred Streeter
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
December 6, 2019 11:48 am

“The Brits are still under the delusion that the UK is a world power and the leader of a great empire.”

Of course we bloody don’t!
You are confusing us with the French.

December 6, 2019 4:46 am

Too bad for the author he isn’t going to win, but good for the rest of us.

Dodgy Geezer
December 6, 2019 5:14 am

“….(never mind Dunkirk and the loss of France in 40 days)….”.

I wonder why you seem to be blaming the UK for that, when you might expect the French to have had something to do with it…?

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
December 6, 2019 10:15 am

I see you are of the opinion that the French are actually good for something, militarily. That’s cute. 😀

Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
December 7, 2019 2:21 am

I see you are of the opinion that the French are actually good for something, militarily. That’s cute.

They did win the War of American Independence. 😉

Reply to  RobH
December 7, 2019 9:11 am

They also have a National flag [The Tricolore] which is the only one in the world required to be made with Velcro – so allowing the rapid removal of the red and blue bits whenever Germans are seen approaching Paris.


Mark Broderick
December 6, 2019 6:09 am

“Climate-human interaction associated with southeast Australian megafauna extinction patterns”

“Chronological analyses have attributed megafaunal extinctions to climate change, humans, or a combination of the two”

So now Humans were causing “climate change” 126,000—12,000 years ago ?


Justin Burch
December 6, 2019 7:34 am

If Corbyn gets in again, I hope the last Jew leaving the country remembers to turn out the lights.

Reply to  Justin Burch
December 6, 2019 8:13 am

If Boris gets in, will you be expressing similar feelings about the last muslim?

Reply to  griff
December 6, 2019 1:41 pm

Not giving the muslims everything they demand is not being anti-muslim.

Tony Wakeling
Reply to  griff
December 6, 2019 3:39 pm


Andy Mansell
December 6, 2019 7:48 am

As an Englishman I can only apologize to the rest of the world for the utter lunacy being shown by most of our politicians. Corbyn, so beloved of the hate filled far-left, is the head of a bunch of dangerous, deluded Marxists and green muppets who would destroy our relationship with the US and indeed any sane, democratic state in favour of ties with a rag-bag assortment of terrorists and socialist states which, apart from the small issue of national security, would destroy our economy in record time. No rational, thinking person could seriously endorse him or his party as it is at the moment. Sadly, all we can do next week is vote for the least green bunch of windbags on offer, which means Boris Johnson for PM. Hardly ideal, but hey-ho. Are their any free-market, anti-green democracies left? If you find one let me know….

Rich Davis
Reply to  Andy Mansell
December 7, 2019 3:23 am

No rational, thinking person could seriously endorse him

Doesn’t Griff support Corbyn though?

Oh, right! Never mind.

Andy Mansell
December 6, 2019 7:51 am

As an Englishman I can only apologize to the rest of the world for the utter lunacy being shown by most of our politicians. Corbyn, so beloved of the hate filled far-left, is the head of a bunch of dangerous, deluded Marxists and green muppets who would destroy our relationship with the US and indeed any sane, democratic state in favour of ties with a rag-bag assortment of terrorists and socialist states which, apart from the small issue of national security, would destroy our economy in record time. No rational, thinking person could seriously endorse him or his party as it is at the moment. Sadly, all we can do next week is vote for the least green bunch of windbags on offer, which means Boris Johnson for PM. Hardly ideal, but hey-ho. Are their any free-market, anti-green democracies left? If you find one let me know……

(Rescued from spam bin) SUNMOD

Kevin Kilty
December 6, 2019 7:54 am

I like elections of this sort — a very clear distinction between parts of the two platforms; both candidates possessing a lot of baggage, but one so odious only an ignorant fool could vote for. The outcome, in terms of result and voter turn-out, is a pretty good measure of how far gone a society is. We might see a similar test in the U.S. next year.

December 6, 2019 7:56 am

Let’s face it, the UK is in need of some hard lessons like the French. Corbyn is the one that can deliver that generation message of pain and suffering to not soon forget.

Reply to  ResourceGuy
December 7, 2019 9:15 am

Corbyn the Democrat:
One Person of whatever gender, sexual leaning, colour, creed (except, oddly, those who value the Torah), or age.
One Vote.
One time.


December 6, 2019 8:04 am

The guy who barely managed to graduate from high school, is claiming to be a scientist?

Fred Streeter
Reply to  MarkW
December 6, 2019 12:00 pm

Piers Corbyn – Scientist.
Jeremy Corbyn – Ninny.


December 6, 2019 8:25 am

“substantial majority” of UK emissions will be eliminated by 2030

Absolutely impossible without a substantial investment in nuclear ebergy.

Reply to  Hans Erren
December 6, 2019 10:24 am

Or a substantial reduction in the size of the UK economy.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  MarkW
December 6, 2019 6:27 pm

Corbyn is already talking about a 4 day working week, 32hrs (Avge.) down from 40.

The last time something like that was proposed was back in the 1970’s, under Conservative Ted Heath (Another one of his gems like the joining the Common Market (CM) in 1973), where a 3 day week was imposed on some businesses (Which started Jan 1st 1974, the very day the UK officially joined the CM) in the face of energy shortages predominantly brought about by coal miners strikes.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
December 7, 2019 9:23 am

The UK joined the Common Market [no ‘EU’ then, we were conned into thinking it was j u s t a free-trade area] on 1st January 1973, at the same time as Eire [Ireland] and Denmark.

And the three-day-week was a power-saving measure, as the Miners had gone on strike, at least partly over wages. Although one official, Arthur Scargill, at least, wanted to overthrow the Government . . . They got that at the first General Election of 1974 [February, IIRC], when Heath had asked the electorate, in effect – “Who Governs the UK?”
“Not YOU, matey” was the electorate’s response.


Tom Abbott
December 6, 2019 8:34 am

From the article: “Finally, geopolitics matters. The world is gripped by right-wing populists who are often hostile to tackling climate change. Brazil’s Jair Bolsonaro abandoned hosting this years’ UN climate talks, while Donald Trump plans to pull out of the Paris Agreement. Fearful inward-looking nationalism means that the internationalism necessary to tackle climate change is being eroded.”

No, nationalists in the US are outward-looking and without fear. Trump is not excluding other nations, he is just putting his nation at the head of the line of priorities.

Putting ones own immediate family first is a good thing, and something everyone does. We help ourselves first, but that doesn’t prevent us from helping others if we are able.

And don’t blame skepticism about the belief in human-caused climate change on nationalism. It’s not nationalism, it’s just common sense, which anyone in any nation can exercise for themselves. There is no evidence for human-caused climate change so it is common sense to be skeptical of such claims.

neil watson
December 6, 2019 10:02 am

Key words are ‘control’ and ‘finances’. It’ll be an earner for the Prof and his cartel.

Dave Miller
December 6, 2019 10:33 am

This insanity is the best argument AGAINST one-World-government.

Solving a non-existent AGW crisis is akin to war over which way to break an egg (J. Swift).

Rich Davis
Reply to  Dave Miller
December 7, 2019 4:16 am

But big-endian vs small-endian was a case where fools fight over two feasible options to achieve a necessary end, with little or no consequence to the choice.

Solving a non-existent AGW crisis is a case where the end is not necessary, most of the choices are not feasible, and the delusion that some kind of action is necessary has huge consequences.

Plus the only way to go is big end.

December 6, 2019 11:20 am

In the most unlikely event that Corbyn wins, if I were Jewish, I’d be looking to move to another country and not just because Corbyn’s policies will bankrupt the UK, drive industry and jobs out of there and leave the people freezing or sweltering in the cold and heat unable to pay their utility bills. No, it’s for a far older problem from which Jews have long-suffered.
I would hope that President Trump, unlike FDR, would provide a safe haven for them in the US.

Greg Cavanagh
December 6, 2019 12:13 pm

They are destroying the word “scientist”, soon it will mean the same as “politician”.

Good going guys.

December 6, 2019 12:42 pm

“Only a Labour government can really turn things around, not just in the UK, but globally. ”
So we will find out on 13th December whether or not the world can be saved. If Jeremy Corbyn does not win enough seats (along with his potential allies) to become the Prime Minister then we know that the world cannot be saved.

Reply to  Alba
December 6, 2019 1:43 pm

If the only way to save the world is by electing Marxists, then the world isn’t worth saving.

December 6, 2019 12:45 pm

Corbyn is neither Marxist nor ‘far left’ but he is exactly what the UK needs.

Reply to  PeterD
December 6, 2019 1:44 pm

If there is even one person to your left, you can’t be a Marxist.

Rich Davis
Reply to  PeterD
December 7, 2019 5:07 am

Ah, like you, Peter, he’s a centrist, since everyone to your right is a far-right extremist.

It would only be reasonable to say that Corbyn is center-right I suppose. What with Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot all (possibly) being to his left. But considering only living mass murderers, where does he stand?

December 6, 2019 1:58 pm

If I had the chance to vote for Corbyn I definitely would. Piers Corbyn , Jeremy’s brother is a very eloquent and well spoken sceptic on climate change. Readers should listen to some of his interviews. The Brits had the right idea but unfortunately it was the wrong Corbyn they put in charge of a political party.

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