Extinction Rebellion isn’t about the Climate. It’s about Heteronormativity

One of the founders of XR let’s it all hang out on this old Medium article.

First his credentials.

I’ve been with Extinction Rebellion (XR) from the start. I was one of the 15 people in April 2018 who came together and made the collective decision to try to create the conditions that would initiate a rebellion. I was a coordinator of one of the original five working groups, and I’ve been organising with XR day-and-night since then (frugally living off my savings so I don’t have to work, having quit an industry that paid me £1000/week). And I’ve been in RisingUp (the organisation from which XR has emerged) since the first RisingUp action in November 2016. I’m a RisingUp Holding Group member, and a member of the XR Guardianship Team.

And for the sake of transparency: that previous paragraph is all about me ‘pulling rank’ — I’m trying to convince you to listen to what I have to say…

And then he tells us the real problem.

And I’m here to say that XR isn’t about the climate. You see, the climate’s breakdown is a symptom of a toxic system of that has infected the ways we relate to each other as humans and to all life. This was exacerbated when European ‘civilisation’ was spread around the globe through cruelty and violence (especially) over the last 600 years of colonialism, although the roots of the infections go much further back.

And lays it out in detail.

Euro-Americans violently imposed and taught dangerous delusions that they used to justify the exploitation and reinforced our dominance, while silencing worldviews that differed or challenged them. The UK’s hand in this was enormous, as can be seen by the size of the former British empire, and the dominance of the English language around the world. There is stark evidence that everyday racial bias continues in Britain, now, today. It’s worth naming some of these constructed delusions that have been coded into societies and institutions around the world:

  • The delusion of white-supremacy centres whiteness and the experience of white people, constructing and perpetuating the myth that white people and their lives are somehow inherently better and more valuable than people of colour.
  • The delusion of patriarchy centres the male experience, and excludes/hinders female assigned people from public life (reducing them to a possession or object for ownership or consumption). Patriarchy teaches dominating and competitive behaviours, and emphasises the idea that the world is a place of scarcity, separation and powerlessness.
  • The delusions of Eurocentrism include the notion that Europeans know what is best for the world.
  • The delusions of hetero-sexism/heteronormativity propagate the idea that heterosexuality is ‘normal’ and that other expressions of sexuality are deviant.
  • The delusions of class hierarchy uphold the theory that the rich elite are better/smarter/nobler than the rest of us, and make therefore better decisions.

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Rob Robertson
October 20, 2019 2:13 am

Revolutionary! (sigh)

David
Reply to  Rob Robertson
October 20, 2019 5:33 am

Hey, normal sex isn’t normal according to that genius. Of course they had to put the word Revolution into the name. Otherwise they wouldn’t know what to do.

Scissor
Reply to  David
October 20, 2019 7:08 am

Why are things in the UK becoming so crazy? For example, police are investigating, i.e. spending actual resources, whether it is a hate crime for a transgender male to be turned down for a porn role.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/uk-police-investigate-transgender-being-turned-down-porn-role-hate-crime

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Scissor
October 20, 2019 7:49 am

“transgender male”

Now I’m confused. Do you mean someone acting like a male? Or someone who has undergone surgery from female to male? If the latter, you mean transsexual, not transgender. Gender is behavior, not physical attributes.

Curious George
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
October 20, 2019 8:22 am

Gender is a synonym for an erotic part of a soul.

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
October 20, 2019 8:45 am

The best menomic for these things is the word “transgender” means “not”. A transgender male is not a male. Ergo, she is a female.

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
October 20, 2019 8:47 am

George: gender is a feature of grammar, not biology nor “souls”, if you believe in such things.

Scissor
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
October 20, 2019 9:36 am

Is a male dressed like a woman having sex with a male, male behavior or female behavior?

Read the article for details about parts and such.

Marty
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
October 20, 2019 10:07 am

I think a transgender is a guy who thinks he is a girl and who likes to wear dresses. Of course a guy thinking he is really a girl doesn’t actually really magically make him a girl. Even spading him doesn’t actually turn him into a real girl. My dog thinks he is a person. But he still has four legs, a tail, and barks at squirrels.

MarkW
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
October 20, 2019 5:14 pm

If I self identify as a woman, can I shower with the girls?

Crispin in Waterloo but really in Beijing
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
October 21, 2019 5:55 am

Walter Sobchak

“The best menomic for these things is the word “transgender” means “not”.

“Trans” means “on the other side of”.

Transylvania, for example. Transkei.

Why on earth they chose to use that as a prefix for “gender” escapes me. Maybe someone can explain it. To me it sounds pejorative as in other side of normal, other side of whatever. It provokes questions.

Why did the chicken cross the road?

Well, why does the chicken’s motive have to be question at all? It is none of our business. Maybe the chicken has just been “reassigned” to the other side of the road after submitting the requisite paperwork.

John Endicott
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
October 21, 2019 7:02 am

Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the idiot’s house
Knock knock. Who’s there? The chicken

Rod Evans
Reply to  Scissor
October 20, 2019 8:19 am

Genuinely laughing out loud at that PC driven lunacy.

taz1999
Reply to  Rod Evans
October 20, 2019 11:35 am

You can’t make this stuff up…. Well alright then, apparently you can make this stuff up.

Greg
Reply to  Rod Evans
October 20, 2019 3:41 pm

Heterosexual behavior is not “normal” ? LOL. Ask Darwin about that one. 1.2 billion years of sexual reproduction later some a-hole thinks it is not “normal”.

The only bullet point they need is :

The delusions of Progressivism include the notion that Progessives know what is best for the world.

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Scissor
October 20, 2019 10:47 am

Marty: “Even spading him”
spade: verb
gerund or present participle: spading
def: dig in (ground) with a spade.
I think you meant:
spay: verb
gerund or present participle: spaying
to sterilize (a female) by removing her ovaries.

However, a transgender woman (see my comment above) is not a woman, does not have ovaries, and cannot be spayed. The analogous form of neutering for a man is castration. A transgender man is not a man, has ovaries, and may be spayed.

Greg
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
October 20, 2019 3:31 pm

Don’t try and be clever, he clearly meant hitting him the nuts with a spade.

MarkW
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
October 21, 2019 9:28 am

Must be a British expression.

anorak2
Reply to  David
October 20, 2019 3:17 pm

In any case, Britain isn’t really that heteronormative.

Reply to  David
October 20, 2019 6:16 pm

A decade or so ago a Rutgers University Prof in Women’s Studies claimed that ALL intercourse was “rape”…. except between her and her husband because he was a “male lesbian”.
iIsay NUTS! (or, he didn’t have any … or … I wear the nuts in … or … I’m allergic to nuts! … or … why don’t we have any children? …or … “I thought I married a fairy! Why can’t he wave his wand?)

Newminster
Reply to  Rob Robertson
October 20, 2019 7:54 am

Try ******* NUTTER ALERT!!! *******

John McClure
Reply to  Newminster
October 20, 2019 9:12 am

Source: https://windowsontheworld.net/video_type/globalist-fake-revolution/
Excerpts:

GLOBALIST FAKE REVOLUTION – EXTINCTION REBELLION EXPOSED
Updated information on the founders of Extinction Rebellion and their links to global corporates and the agenda behind this controlled opposition cult.

In response to requests for information about the cult one activist was threatened by agents of ER known as Foxtrot Echo and Foxtrot Tango along with others in the cult. The founder of ER Gail Bradbrook requested to be taken off the e mail list and did not apologise for the threats made against a member of the public. E mails available on request.

To date 29/11/18 ER has raised £87.003 (3.30pm). We know the Campaign Owner on the crowd funding website is Rising Up, and the ‘Funds managed by Rising Up!’, and we know the holding company for Rising Up, is Compassionate:Rebellion Ltd.

The current directors for Compassionate:Revolution are Dr Gail Marie Bradbrook, and George William Blackmore Barda. Dr Gail Bradbrook is also company Secretary. The Company has two shareholders, Gail Bradbrook and George Bard.

We know Roger Hallam (aka Julian Roger Hallam) is a founder of Extinction Rebellion, along with Gail Bradbrook (Director Compassionate:Rebellion Ltd). The reluctance of the core to reveal their identities has for me been disturbing, and all the more strange, given that their names have appeared in a Times article (17/11/2018), ‘White collar eco-warriors to spread chaos’, https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/white-collar-eco-warriors-to-spread-chaos-swl273xdh.

The names revealed by the Times are: Gail Bradbrook, Ronan McNern, Roger Hallam, Stuart Basden, and Simon Bramwell

We know that Extinction Rebellion was the ‘brain child’ of Rising Up, a group based in Stroud, …

John McClure
Reply to  John McClure
October 20, 2019 10:44 am

“Something is rotten in the state of Denmark” — follow the money.

The Windows on the World article points out, contributions to ER are largely anonymous. Was ER setup to fail for the purpose of laundering contributions? Seems unlikely as their financial statements would be reviewed by a governmental agency yet how could that agency track the source of the donations.

If it turns out to be true, it clearly proves Greens are useful for something.

John McClure
Reply to  John McClure
October 20, 2019 12:31 pm

Digging deeper:

Source: https://risingup.org.uk/about-us
Note: this site is “out of date and not currently being updated … See rebellion(.)earth
Excerpt:
Rising Up is linked to Compassionate Revolution which was birthed in the Occupy movement.

Source: https://www.compassionate-revolution.net/
Excerpt:
We’re currently in the process of moving our pledging system to a new home on Rising Up. Come back very soon….

Source : extinction (.) Rebellion is rebellion (.) earth
Excerpt:
Extinction Rebellion is an international movement that uses non-violent civil disobedience in an attempt to halt mass extinction and minimise the risk of social collapse.

Gloucestershire’s Extinction Rebellion ‘godmother’ Gail Bradbrook hits back at suggestions the founders are making money from the cause
Read the 13 questions and answers raised in the media about Extinction Rebellion finances this weekend

Source: https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/gloucestershires-extinction-rebellion-godmother-gail-3423635

Excerpt:
According to The Mail on Sunday hundreds of thousands of pounds are being collected from sympathisers across the world such as the rock band Radiohead which gave £250,000 and billionaire Sir Christopher Hohn who donated £50,000.

The article claims that Gail Bradbrook, the godmother of the movement from Stroud, requested payments of £600 a month and co-founder Roger Hallam asked for £300 a week.


This is obviously a scam. I can’t believe Radiohead and Hohm are so shortsighted.

I’m amazed the UK has any difficulty dealing with this nonsense!

Roger Knights
Reply to  Rob Robertson
October 20, 2019 12:31 pm

Say, could future donors be liable?

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Rob Robertson
October 20, 2019 6:29 pm

Revolting!

Hivemind
Reply to  Rob Robertson
October 20, 2019 10:51 pm

I read his original article & what he says is best done in private, with a dirty magazine. What a “Pajero”, if you know what that word means in South America.

Ed Zuiderwijk
October 20, 2019 2:17 am

Isn’t Greta the exponent of his ‘Eurocentrism’.

The comments are interesting. Many agree with the simple observation that the writer of such ignorant nonsense is just stark raving mad. Which begs the question what employer would pay 1000 a week to such a disturbed mind. I’d like to know. A sane person should be able to make fortune there.

Dodgy Geezer
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
October 20, 2019 2:31 am

Maybe they pay you FOR being mad?

If that employer is the sort of person who really wanted that employee, I suspect that you would fail at teh first interview…

Susan
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
October 20, 2019 6:23 am

We don’t know how he came to leave his paid employment – it is possible to guess that he was shown the door.

October 20, 2019 2:20 am

Of course, CO2 is a vehicle for social change.A change to some new world where these middle class failures can feel some kind of victory over their peers who did take part in the ‘evil system’ and made a lot of money out of it.

It is all about envy.

The working class couldn’t give a stuff. They dont have any delusions of grandeur that infect the middle class.

Dodgy Geezer
Reply to  Matthew Sykes
October 20, 2019 2:52 am

“…Of course, CO2 is a vehicle for social change…”

Let’s hear it for Argon! Over 20 times as common as CO2, and no one talks about it at all…. 🙁

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
October 20, 2019 4:11 am

Argon is so…enLIGHTening!

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Patrick MJD
October 20, 2019 4:37 am

Only when energised with electricity generated by burning … oh .. oops.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
October 20, 2019 6:20 am

My point.

Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
October 20, 2019 1:20 pm

Typical right-winger.
Cheering on the Nobles.

Anna Keppa
Reply to  M Courtney
October 20, 2019 9:11 pm

Matthew Sykes: Oh, so all the scientific advances in the world were made only by Nobles?
SNORT.

Newton? Einstein? Bohr? Semmelweis? Curie, McClintock, Burbank, Eli Whitney? Edison, Steinmetz, Ford, the Wright Brothers George Eastman, ….etc….etc….

In which countries were those folks born upper class?

Can you explain why the modern middle class leads lives healthier, with more comforts and longer than ROYALTY ever did,anywhere at any time in history, ?

M Courtney: Typical bat-shite crazy proglodyte: can’t begin to cobble together anything remotely resembling an “argument”.

SMC
Reply to  Anna Keppa
October 20, 2019 9:36 pm

Anna, have ever heard of noble gases? Argon is a noble gas.

Reply to  Anna Keppa
October 21, 2019 12:28 am

I never claimed such a thing Anna.

Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
October 23, 2019 10:12 am

Dodgy says:
Let’s hear it for Argon!

Problem is, with all the encouragement, Argon will just refuse to react. 😉

Dodgy Geezer
October 20, 2019 2:25 am

“…..The delusions of class hierarchy uphold the theory that the rich elite are better/smarter/nobler than the rest of us, and make therefore better decisions……”

I think that in the UK the appalling mess they are making of Brexit has cured most people of belief in that one…

Ron Long
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
October 20, 2019 3:38 am

Wow! You’re on a roll today, Dodgy! However, smarter does have a positive correlation with richer and making better decisions, and not smart at all the inverse. Who walked on the moon? Try to spin the answer.

Sparko
Reply to  Ron Long
October 20, 2019 6:34 am

Yawn, Pretty much all those that designed and built the moon landing equipment came from humble backgrounds. The politicians only made the money available.
The elites always conspire to uphold the status quo, if it was left to them we would still have feudalism.

Ron Long
Reply to  Sparko
October 20, 2019 11:38 am

Sparko, the comment was about smarter and walking on the moon, not humble backgrounds.

Sparko
Reply to  Ron Long
October 20, 2019 12:30 pm

I know, however I also know that trying to browbeat people with eggspurts is also common.
I also know that some of the brightest people can’t cope with the madness of the world,and thus retreat from it and end up poor.

Ron Long
Reply to  Ron Long
October 20, 2019 1:54 pm

So, Sparko, eggspurts is slang for expert, and trying to browbeat people with eggspurts is a poor substitute for reading scientific studies regarding the topic, actually understanding the studies, and offering an actual counter argument, which it appears you are wont to do, but somehow cannot rise to the occasion.

Sparko
Reply to  Ron Long
October 21, 2019 1:27 am

Sociology and psychology is 99% junk science, no matter how prettily they are worded

Cube
Reply to  Sparko
October 20, 2019 4:14 pm

“If it was up to them we would still have….” That is what they are trying to reinstate

BCBill
Reply to  Ron Long
October 20, 2019 8:47 am

The correlation between income and intelligence is pretty weak and the effect small (https://www.gwern.net › iqPDF) The size of the effects for occupation and education increase over income in that order. The variables are all linked and higher education could easily account for the small income effect. Of course, the biggest effect of high i.q. is reduced severe accident with higher i.q. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4170759/). One might expect that this effect will decrease as the Safety Nazis increase their ability to protect everybody from everything .

Russ Wood
Reply to  Ron Long
October 20, 2019 9:27 am

On smarter: Harry Oppenheimer, who used to run Anglo American (a company that at one time owned a large chunk of South Africa) once was asked “How come you are so successful at running Anglo?” He replied “By making good decisions”. The interviewer then asked “How can you make all of these good decisions?”, and Oppenheimer answered “By first making BAD decisions”.
So, basically, if you fail to learn from your bad decisions, you’ll never get anywhere! (As a retired software engineer, I reckon that I learned more from failed tests than from successful ones) .

rah
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
October 20, 2019 7:17 am

Brexit and the failure to implement it have resulted from the symptoms of that very thing. An arrogant “elite” first failing to pay attention to the people, putting their own power and enrichment over the good of their nation and peoples, and then striving to thwart the change once the masses expressed their will for it in the largest referendum in the history of the UK.

Trump’s election resulted from the same and of course the resistance of the elites to the will of the people also continues here. Both are evidence of the ability of the masses to recognize the dangers of hegemony and the power of a democratic system to react to thwart it. In both cases it remains to be seen if it will take extensive violence for the masses to enforce their will. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afMofYie4Lc&feature=youtu.be

jo blo
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
October 20, 2019 10:39 am

Being smarter than me does not mean they are on my side. Quite the opposite, apparently

Dodgy Geezer
October 20, 2019 2:28 am

“…and excludes/hinders female assigned people from public life….”

‘Female-assigned’ people?

I wonder who did the assigning…?

SMC
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
October 20, 2019 3:48 am

“I wonder who did the assigning…?”

The Man of course. As part of the patriarchal supremacy, men choose the sex of the baby. We preselect which of our little swimmers will fertilize the ovum in order to provide the greatest burden on and oppression of women. /sarc

JEHILL
Reply to  SMC
October 20, 2019 5:20 am

Do not forget that heterosexuality is a bad thing. I mean it only leads to the evolution and procreation of the species.

Ron Long
Reply to  JEHILL
October 20, 2019 6:23 am

Stay back, everyone. SMC and JEHILL are about to be punished and the results might be messy.

SMC
Reply to  Ron Long
October 20, 2019 8:07 am

Now Ron,
T’aint no woman gonna hurt me. I’m just a red blooded, deplorable ‘Murican Man. I loves my guns, pickup (even though I don’t own one), dog and my woman barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. I wears the pants in my family (the ones she lays out for me).

/sarc for the humor impaired

Reply to  JEHILL
October 20, 2019 12:44 pm

Exactly! Without heterosexuality, extinction is exactly what you will get.

Richard
Reply to  SMC
October 25, 2019 10:36 pm

Saw a documentary oh ovum fertilization that showed multiple spermatozoa valiantly trying to get past the barricades, and the ovum creating an entrance for the selected applicant. Female decision.

October 20, 2019 2:29 am

“I was one of the 15 people in April 2018 who came together and made the collective decision to try to create the conditions that would initiate a rebellion. ”

I’m not sure it’s even about heteronormativity. I suspect it’s about kids who can’t bully their own peers without getting their bollocks gift-wrapped and mailed back to them so they go looking for a casus belli to bully adults, who they figure are too prefrontal to fight back (as a rule). This guy’s a rebel in search of a cause celebre, who’ll pay lip service to climate or extinction or trans-fat rights or whatever the angriness du jour is. Any ideology at all, as long as it makes 75% of passengers on the Clapham omnibus enemies of the yoof, will do just as well.

Lest we forget SkepticalScience’s treehouse files…

“And this isn’t about science or personal careers and reputations any more. This is a fight for survival. Our civilisations survival. .. We need our own anonymous (or not so anonymous) donors, our own think tanks…. Our Monckton’s … Our assassins.

“Anyone got Bill Gates’ private number, Warren Buffett, Richard Branson? Our ‘side’ has got to get professional, ASAP. We don’t need to blog. We need to network. Every single blog, organisation, movement is like a platoon in an army. ..This has a lot of similarities to the Vietnam War….And the skeptics are the Viet Cong… Not fighting like ‘Gentlemen’ at all. And the mainstream guys like Gleick don’t know how to deal with this. Queensberry Rules rather than biting and gouging.

“..So, either Mother Nature deigns to give the world a terrifying wake up call. Or people like us have to build the greatest guerilla force in human history. Now. Because time is up…Someone needs to convene a council of war of the major environmental movements, blogs, institutes etc. In a smoke filled room (OK, an incense filled room) we need a conspiracy to save humanity.”

David
Reply to  Brad Keyes
October 20, 2019 6:00 am

So they haven’t heard of the UN, where their kind come from.

Reply to  Brad Keyes
October 20, 2019 7:43 am

Do they make gift wrapping that small?

Reply to  AuricTech
October 20, 2019 8:39 am

Small?? Whatchoo talkin bout? These guys are full of bollocks. Some of them are 60% bollock, 40% ape. If they fell out of their treehouse and broke their bollocks, the resulting bollock-slick could be seen from the ISS. Local birdlife would be covered in bollocks for years.

Cube
Reply to  Brad Keyes
October 20, 2019 4:20 pm

perhaps I missed your point? Gates, Buffet, Branson et. al. are the ones who seek tomreinstate feudalism with themselves at the top. Money and power.

tonyb
Editor
October 20, 2019 2:29 am

That our society has evolved so that in this post industrial age we are the healthiest, wealthiest, happiest longest lived societies in the history of the world seems to have escaped their attention. Naturally those who have not yet benefited from societies great leap forward over the last 300 years will want to have their share of this prosperity.

why would anyone want to push us back to the brutal, cold short lived and unhealthy lives of our forefathers? Truly XR is a death cult.

cerescokid
Reply to  tonyb
October 20, 2019 5:01 am

I watched a documentary last night on Teddy Roosevelt’s expedition into the Amazon basin in 1913. They encountered tribes, some of whom roamed completely naked.

It occurred to me, given the choice, there is an inherent hierarchy of how humans would like to live. Clothed over nakedness. Having a roof rather than sleeping under the stars. Having a full stomach versus starvation. Having a diet of things rather than each other. Having good teeth over none. Living pain free over living in agony. Being able to go to sleep at night and without wondering if you will be speared during the night.

Over thousands of years man has aspired to have a little civility in their lives. Who cares how we got there.

All of these nut cases coming out of the woodwork are so reminiscent of the 1960s. The only thing missing are the madras shirts, white bell bottoms and Canoe aftershave.

commieBob
Reply to  tonyb
October 20, 2019 5:03 am

Exactly. With regard to colonialism Thomas Sowell makes the following observation:

(Wales, colonized by England) is not entrepreneurial, but rather has created an educated class that “has a vested interest in promoting intergroup resentment and strife, using the symbols of identity and of historic oppression to gain current political ends, even at the expense of creating a climate unfavorable to either indigenous or foreign entrepreneurship.” Conquests and Cultures.

Sowell compares Wales with Scotland, which, because of its existing culture, became the light of the world during the Scottish Enlightenment.

Colonialism very often was a net good for the colonized societies.

The identity politics pushed by XR and the SJWs are guaranteed to set societies back and increase human misery. They are a cancer on society.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  tonyb
October 20, 2019 5:03 am

“That our society has evolved so that in this post industrial age we are the healthiest, wealthiest, happiest longest lived societies in the history of the world seems to have escaped their attention.”

I don’t think they teach that in school anymore.

JEHILL
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 20, 2019 5:30 am

Would it not be a benefit to everyone if these folks found themselves deep in a Jungle to live in “harmony” with nature?

Richard
Reply to  JEHILL
October 20, 2019 7:22 am

Remove the moral constraints that civil society has imposed and it’s Lord of the Flies time. The power vacuum in the wake of dismantled democracy will not be filled with peace, harmony and Kumbiya. It will be raw and brutal. It will be Hell on earth.

MarkW
Reply to  tonyb
October 20, 2019 7:07 am

Evidence doesn’t work with these people. They are convinced that prior to the sin of agriculture, people were happier, healthier, and lived longer lives. Oh yea, they never fought either.

October 20, 2019 2:33 am

No matter how the leftists frame the alleged problem, their solution is always the same – a brutal socialist dictatorship with them in charge. They rule like kings, and everyone else lives like peasants.

” The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.”
– H. L. Mencken, American journalist, 1880-1956

THE LIBERALS’ COVERT GREEN PLAN FOR CANADA – POVERTY AND DICTATORSHIP
by Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng., October 16, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/10/01/the-liberals-covert-green-plan-for-canada-poverty-and-dictatorship/
[excerpt]

A highly credible gentleman wrote me as follows, concerning his recent conversation with an Ottawa insider.

The insider, he said, had been working on an advisory group to the Trudeau government, which was formed to develop policies for the period 20 to 40 years out. The group had concluded that the present economic model was flawed and had to be replaced. “Unregulated consumerism was unsustainable and people would have to learn to make do with less. The government would have to have more control over people to enforce their austerity and the wealth of developed nations would have to be redistributed to help undeveloped nations.”

The insider’s words reflect the motives of climate activists who are using the climate “emergency” as a false front for their covert ideological ambitions. What they are pursuing is an economic revolution to a socialist command economy, slipped in through the back door.

JEHILL
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
October 20, 2019 5:36 am

” wealth of developed nations would have to be redistributed to help undeveloped nations.”

There would be no wealth in this model to help any one; only corrupted power structures to oppress.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
October 20, 2019 6:39 am

I wish someone could have asked, “Would it not be better to help undeveloped nations develop, and create their own wealth?”

I suspect the answer would reveal who the true racists are.

Otis Donkey
October 20, 2019 2:35 am

That’s hilarious.

He thinks ‘civilization’ is barbaric?

Wait til we see what anarchy and full bore tribalism looks like.

The Depraved and MOST Deplorable Vlad the Impaler
Reply to  Otis Donkey
October 21, 2019 5:48 am

“Lord of the Flies”

Emory
October 20, 2019 2:37 am

These folks make for a great case study of how certain individuals within a species missed some key pieces of evolutionary processes.

Perry
October 20, 2019 2:41 am

XR should take heed of the words of Tokugawa Ieyasu, because they are abusing the patience of their fellow
citizens. There is no freedom without responsibility & abusing freedom has consequences.

“Life is like unto a long journey with a heavy burden. Let thy step be slow & steady, that thou stumble not. Persuade thyself that imperfection & inconvenience are the lot of natural mortals & there will be no room for discontent, neither for despair. When ambitious desires arise in thy heart, recall the days of extremity thou hast passed through. Forbearance is the root of all quietness & assurance forever. Look upon the wrath of thy enemy. If thou only knowest what it is to conquer & knowest not what it is to be defeated; woe unto thee, it will fare ill with thee. Find fault with thyself rather than with others.”

“The strong manly ones in life are those who understand the meaning of the word patience. Patience means restraining one’s inclinations. There are seven emotions: joy, anger, anxiety, adoration, grief, fear & hate & if a man does not give way to these, he can be called patient. I am not as strong as I might be, but I have long known & practiced patience. And if my descendants wish to be as I am, they must study patience.”

Tokugawa Ieyasu was Shōgun from 1603 -1605 & retired shōgun (Ōgosho) from 1605-1616. He was cruel, relentless & merciless in the elimination of all his enemies. The Tokugawa clans dominated Japan until the Meiji Restoration in 1868.

BillP
October 20, 2019 2:50 am

“The delusions of Eurocentrism include the notion that Europeans know what is best for the world.”

The extinction rebellion is a classic example of this, only Europeans, including ones who have emigrated, are supporting it.

Reply to  BillP
October 20, 2019 4:00 am

And XR idiots clearly know what is best for the World …

kwinterkorn
October 20, 2019 2:58 am

And now….he shows that HIS Eurocentrism trumps all others:

1. Unlike the evidence that tribalism, racism, xenophobia, otherism, etc are universal in the current human world and throughout human history, he says claims that Eurocentric racism and patriarchalism are the worst ever.

2. Therefore, he, who describes how down with the movement he is in nauseating detail, in fighting these greatest ever evils, is among the most morally superior people on Earth. There is no way a Chinese person or an African could be as morally superior as he is, because European evil is so much worse than their evils.

3. So, he must argue, to be consistent, that Eurocentric political movements and preaching are part of the evil.

4. Too bad for consistency of logic, he therefore ought to be arguing that XR, which is notably white and European, is morally unacceptable for preaching to the people of the world how they must live.
5. Eurocentrism! Hah! Nothing has been more Eurocentric than the CAGW movement. How so very moral they are!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  kwinterkorn
October 20, 2019 5:11 am

“4. Too bad for consistency of logic, he therefore ought to be arguing that XR, which is notably white and European, is morally unacceptable for preaching to the people of the world how they must live.”

The thing about it is XR is not preaching to the world, they are preaching to the Western democracies. The rest of the world is paying them no mind and is apparently not concerned about CO2 because they are building coal-fired powerplants as fast as they can. Only the Western Democracie’s politicians are stupid enough to bankrupt their nations over science fiction like human-caused global warming.

Russ Wood
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 20, 2019 9:34 am

Actually, some science fiction like Peter Hamilton’s or David Brin’s can be pretty POSITIVE about Global Warming. Orange groves in Cambridgeshire, for example!

Doc Chuck
Reply to  kwinterkorn
October 20, 2019 8:07 pm

Well, perhaps the Marxism underlying that whole climate catastrophe movement is at least as ‘toxically Eurocentric’ in its outlook. Ask a Cambodian about what principles Pol Pot had adopted from half a world away no doubt for some eventual revolutionary largesse upon the extinction of their own home grown resistant intellectuals.

Carl Friis-Hansen
October 20, 2019 3:06 am

The delusions of hetero-sexism/heteronormativity propagate the idea that heterosexuality is ‘normal’ and that other expressions of sexuality are deviant.

Women’s liberation in “white man’s world” has been rather successful compared to almost everywhere else. Are Muslim woman that more liberated?

Anyway, waste of effort to criticize complete nonsense.
If the writer in question had been born about 1920, he/she could have joint the uprising forces to establish “The Third Reich”. They too caused havoc all over the place with the promise that they did it for your own best. The governments more less fell for it, the pressure was very high, but after a while, the common people resisted and called them selves freedom fighters. For profit and out of fear, many were still with the Extinction Rebellions, sorry the Third Reich movement until the end of the war.
When I went to school in 50’s and 60’s, we were educated about the 30’s to the 50’s in order to be on guard for a repetition. Sadly, not everybody from neither mine nor the younger generations seems to identify a similar contemporary situation.

Sparko
Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
October 20, 2019 3:37 am

Exactly, Progressives are always the same, they are just social rejects looking for a cult to join.

Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
October 20, 2019 4:09 am

There is indeed a strong link between Nazis and XR (and most of the climate clowns) :
– they are Malthusians and want to create a new global order reflecting their self accounted superiority.

Fanakapan
Reply to  Petit_Barde
October 20, 2019 12:40 pm

Pol Pot rather than the Nazis ?

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
October 21, 2019 7:05 pm

Carl wrote;

“When I went to school in 50’s and 60’s, we were educated about the 30’s to the 50’s in order to be on guard for a repetition.”

Well it’s the same principle now. Millennials were educated about the 50s, the Baby Boom and White Picket Fences, all in order so they can be on guard for a repetition…

October 20, 2019 3:11 am

“The delusions of class hierarchy uphold the theory that the rich elite are better/smarter/nobler than the rest of us, and make therefore better decisions.”
The only people who think that are the ones at the top of that heap.
It is not a “theory”.

fretslider
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
October 20, 2019 3:22 am

the rich elite are better/smarter/nobler than the rest of us

As demonstrated by Mr Ed Miliband when eating a bacon sandwich…

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ed-miliband-bacon-sandwich_n_5bbe27b0e4b01470d0580898

A real man of the people; not.

fretslider
October 20, 2019 3:18 am

Read the whole article here

Thanks, but I’ll pass. I’m only too aware of what these lunatics are about and the methods being used to achieve it – from the godchild down

http://www.theartofannihilation.com/the-manufacturing-of-greta-thunberg-for-consent-the-political-economy-of-the-non-profit-industrial-complex/

neil
October 20, 2019 3:18 am

There is no doubt that the “West” dropped the ball after WW2. The Greco-Roman world has been spreading democracy and self determination around the world for 2500 years, but two internal world wars brought it to a grinding halt, we lost momentum in the middle east and Africa and let them slide back into tribal feudalism. Recent attempts at civilising the middle east have failed because the west isn’t prepared to go the whole distance, it takes at least two generations, 60 years to assimilate a culture. Conquering a region then leaving in 10 years achieves nothing, the colonial powers understood this, that is why Britain was in India for 200 years.

We “The West” need to regroup and continue the good work that has been achieved over the past 2500 years and perhaps in another 2500 years the whole world will be assimilated into a unified democracy.

Reply to  neil
October 20, 2019 9:05 am

Neil,

I observe that the “West” or “Greco-Roman world” (your terminology in both cases) definitely did not “drop the ball ofter WW2,” as you stated. You need to look to the end result of the Cold War (mainly, the breakup of the Soviet Union), Japan’s transition to a parliamentary representative democratic constitutional monarchy, India becoming a sovereign democratic republic, and the more-recent pro-democracy movement in the Middle East, all happening post-WWII, to see that the growth of democracy in the world continues.

The success of democracy over other forms of government is self-evident, but the pace is variable.

Your claim that the spread of democracy came to a “grinding halt” after WWII is simply not supported by facts.

October 20, 2019 3:20 am

Just imagine a world where all his wishes came true! A hideous robotic nightmare world (1984) where everyone is programed or forced to think and act in the ”correct” way.
There’s only one delusional party here. The writer of this article. You cannot remove natural tendencies from the human mind – not for long anyway. The reason the system is the way it is, is due to nature. Good luck trying to change it! I prefer freedom myself.

JEHILL
Reply to  Mike
October 20, 2019 6:15 am

Like I stated above….

Would it not be a benefit to everyone if these folks found themselves deep in a Jungle on their backs to live in “harmony” with nature?

I will updated it:

Would it not be a benefit to everyone if these folks found themselves deep in a Jungle, with nothing but the clothes on their backs, to live in “harmony” with nature?

October 20, 2019 3:24 am

Obviously our dear XR chappie/person, hasn’t heard about the Ottoman Turk’s several attempts to conquer Vienna – and their control of the Middle East, nor of the Soviet Empire, nor of Indonesia’s control over a masses of different island cultures, or of China’s recent conquest of Nepal and ongoing conquest of the Pacific; probably just as well because he/she’ll be speaking Chinese pretty damned soon – if she/he isn’t evaporated by the wicked west’s love affair with wicked CO2 emissions

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
October 20, 2019 8:24 am

Genghis Khan anyone?

Serge Wright
October 20, 2019 3:31 am

Yep, we have this propaganda over and over … It’s always the fault of white people and colonialism / western civilisation.

If we paraphrase from the movie Life of Brian, aka what did the Romans give us anyway…
– Health Services and modern medicine
– Education, including universities
– Democracy
– Freedom of specch and expression and travel
– Freedom of religion
– Advanced agriculture
– Law and order
– The industrial evolution
– Housing
– Long life expectancy and prosperity
– Air travel
– The automobile, roads and freeways
– Trains
– Shipping
– Mobile phone
– The computer age
– Man on the moon and space exploration
– Electricity
– Safe drinking water
– The age of enlightenment and beyond
– And so on ………

The topic of colonialism is of particular interest right now when considering the plight of the people in Hong Kong. These people surrendered their colonial status with the succession back to China, but are now willing to give their lives to retain the freedom and prosperity that colonialism provided. This is also why refugees seek refuge in a western country, with the preference being former colonial countries such as USA, Australia, and Canada. Despite this reality, the XR idiots want to reject what is proven to be good and embrace the dark side of totalitarian oppression, control and poverty from which people are seeking to escape. The easiest option here is to send them all to North Korea or China and get the governements to welcome them into their supposed divine society where everyone gets punished via their social credit systems for non-compliance by the thought police, or mysteriously vanish for eternity.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Serge Wright
October 20, 2019 10:42 am

Thank you, …… Serge Wright, …… for posting much of what I was thinking.

Andy Mansell
Reply to  Serge Wright
October 22, 2019 8:28 am

Ah, The Life Of Brian- how long before the ‘I want to be a woman because I want to have babies’/’Symbolic of his struggle against reality’ part is censored and declared…well, whatever ‘ist’ fits?

Abolition Man
October 20, 2019 3:31 am

What is it about modern, western schools that leaves their students so completely unable to deal with reality? It would seem that most Progressives are either ignorant or insane or both. Perhaps being taught WHAT to think instead of HOW to think is the cause!
As an aside, can we start demanding that every dictionary and definition website include a picture of AOC under “useful idiot?” Any challenger for her district is going to have more video for campaign ads than they know what to do with; good editing will be paramount!

Carl Friis-Hansen
Reply to  Abolition Man
October 20, 2019 4:43 am

Some people seems to be very protective of AOC’s image, they managed to threaten Mini-AOC away from Internet exposure, although she would undoubtedly have been much more constructive in Congress, than the big AOC.
On that note: How the h..l can so many adore St. Greta and her childish bad behavior, and bullie out the really adorable Mini-AOC?

commieBob
Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
October 20, 2019 5:30 am

Mini-AOC

The SJWs are like a bunch of chimpanzees. They are stupid and will gang up on a victim and rip her to shreds. They are in no way civilized or even fully human.

Mark Broderick
Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
October 20, 2019 6:21 am

“How the h..l can so many adore St. Greta and her childish bad behavior, and bullie out the really adorable Mini-AOC?”

Liberal MSM Fake News brainwashing !

ozspeaksup
October 20, 2019 3:33 am

of course we only have his word about his job n wages priorly
dunno what a teacher earns but thatd be the genre Id place him in
and the heteronormativity?
well ma nature makes the original call, and apart from the rare “mistake? physically,
the wanna be something elses actual numbers are so damned low in any society the amount of voice and media they get is ONLY due to the fact so many are in the bloody Media and spinning it like a top!

I was musing
if we took ALL the warmist climate crud out of the media and peoples minds
theyd actually have to focus on something real
might be a big ask for many I guess
but theres some relly nasty times ahead for many as once again the banksters the markets and a few global hotspots might just upend the comfy lifestyles we enjoy
All of which deserve some attention paid and very few are doing so.
sidelined by warmist claptrap and politicians sideshows
and dipshits like the above getting airtime and 5 mins of fame and followers;-((

mwhite
October 20, 2019 4:04 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfvupdSozvo

“Convoy heading to Edmonton for climate counter protest”

mwhite
October 20, 2019 4:08 am

And the other

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/10/19/extinction-rebellion-backer-chris-hohn-builds-800m-stake-heathrow/

“Extinction Rebellion backer Chris Hohn builds £630m stake in Heathrow”

Sunny
Reply to  mwhite
October 20, 2019 5:02 am

Mwhite

I’m sure he didn’t invest so much money to break up heathrow, he will be responsible for the 630m which the hudge fund investor’s will want back with intrest.

john
October 20, 2019 4:09 am

Speaking of rebellion, Alberta oil patch workers have message for Greta.

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/take-that-greta/

Sunny
Reply to  john
October 20, 2019 4:58 am

john

Good, who does she think she is? First she tells us to give up everything, while she gets paid to lie, then she tells xr to continue with breaking the law 😐 she is speaking in Chile next, how will she get there, also how will his uneducated non working, 16 year old get back to frozen sweden?

john
Reply to  Sunny
October 20, 2019 5:21 am
john
Reply to  Sunny
October 20, 2019 5:31 am

In the year 2065…

https://mobile.twitter.com/Yamaha47868388/status/1185600401950892032/photo/1

Note: This extreme rebellion would qualify to be placed on terrorism and NO FLY LISTS!

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