The “Bern” Vows to Prosecute Oil & Gas Industry: Laws? We Don’t Need No Stinkin’ Laws!

Guest “it’s time to go full-Chevron on these greenhadists”!

BERNIE SANDERS WANTS TO PROSECUTE OIL AND NATURAL GAS COMPANIES, BUT DOESN’T KNOW WHAT LAWS THEY VIOLATED
AUGUST 27, 2019 | WILLIAM ALLISON

2020 Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders is out with yet another climate proposal, this time to prosecute fossil fuel executives for causing climate change.

[…]

The attack continues on his campaign website:

“Bernie promises to go further than any other presidential candidate in history to end the fossil fuel industry’s greed, including by making the industry pay for its pollution and prosecuting it for the damage it has caused.”

The problem? Sanders didn’t explain what laws these companies have broken. Spoiler alert: Providing affordable, reliable energy isn’t a crime anywhere, least of all in the United States.

But because Sanders personally doesn’t like what these companies do, he believes they should be taken to court.

[…]

Energy in Depth

What other nations on Earth prosecute people before identifying the laws that were broken?

“Bernie Sander’s ‘Economic Bill Of Rights’ Is A Near Duplicate Of Stalin’s 1936 Soviet Constitution” Washington Standard
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David Guy-Johnson
August 31, 2019 2:06 pm

He and all his ilk are truly bad people and perhaps a little insane.

Admin
Reply to  David Guy-Johnson
August 31, 2019 2:22 pm

I think they know what they are doing, I doubt Stalin ever went hungry.

Severian
Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 31, 2019 4:06 pm

Wonder how Bernie means to keep his gas guzzling Audi R8 supercar running with no petroleum based fuels? Then again, as you say, Stalin never missed any meals, neither did Pol Pot or Mao.

The frightening thing is there are a lot of people out there nodding their heads at this and thinking, COOL! You Go Bernie, we support you!

WR2
Reply to  Severian
September 1, 2019 12:39 am

Do you have a link to this? The only ones I find are saying it was a Bernie lookalike driving an R8…doesn’t mean it’s not true, just could be the true believers providing cover. Maybe a FOIA request for vehicles registered to him would be an interesting find. I’m guessing they don’t all run on pixie dust and unicorn farts.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Severian
September 1, 2019 11:23 am

The Socialist Politburo motto: “Prosperity for me but not for thee. Go over their and get in the back of the line.”

Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 31, 2019 8:37 pm

The real threat is totalitarianism, and it is very serious – the voting demographic is getting younger and naïve youth find socialism very attractive.

Remember that Obama was elected President and Hillary only lost by a slim margin – Hillary would have been the end of democracy and prosperity for America.

The history of socialist dictatorships is well-known – destroy the economy and retain power by force. That is the future of our countries if the socialists succeed in their covert schemes – the climate scam is just a false front for their true objectives.

This is no wild theory – leftist dictatorships have now grown to control over half the people of the world. They promise gullible imbeciles lots of free stuff, get elected, and then hold on to power – the end of democracy.

The socialist leadership are brutal psychopaths, who seize onto any notion that will disrupt peaceful society, create poverty and chaos and thus give them total control. Their followers are imbeciles who follow anything that sounds good – this describes about the lower third of human intellect – people who are far too stupid to vote – but they do.

Socialists (aka Progressives aka Marxists) can only be described as insane – they will repeat the horrors of the 20th Century, with over 200 million innocent lives destroyed by the likes of Stalin, Hitler and Mao, and lesser psychos like Pol Pot and the Tin Pot leftist dictators in sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America – most recently Mugabe in Zimbabwe and Chávez and successors in Venezuela.

In fact, radical green socialists have already destroyed almost as many lives as their 20th Century counterparts. This green carnage is described in my essay “Hypothesis: Radical Greens are the Great Killers of Our Age”. A large percentage of those killed by the radical greens have been children under five years of age.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/04/14/hypothesis-radical-greens-are-the-great-killers-of-our-age/

Radical greens are a reboot of the old Marxists, the “useful-idiot” fellow-travellers in the West who used to support the failed Soviet Union – they seem to think it will all go better this time – it won’t.

The leftists say that the millions killed by socialists Stalin, Hitler and Mao in the 20th Century were an aberration – but that notion is false – the murder of millions of innocents is the central feature of socialism – 200 million dead innocents cannot be wrong.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/20/what-the-green-new-deal-is-really-about-and-its-not-the-climate/#comment-2749625

“Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy.” – Mao Tse-Tung

Mao killed about 80 million of his own people, the mainland Chinese. How were they the enemy?

Stalin killed about 50 million Russians, Ukrainians, and others – also his own people.

National Socialist Hitler killed another 50 million, but some of them actually were his enemies.

What the left does not seem to understand is this:
WHEN POWER IS SO TIGHTLY CONCENTRATED, IT ALWAYS ENDS UP IN THE HANDS OF A VICIOUS PSYCHOPATH AND HIS SYCOPHANTS.

And no, this time it will NOT be different.
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Alan Chapprll
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 1, 2019 1:34 am

When a country has a large population the law of averages says that you have a ( X ) % of idiots, BUT !!! something has gone very, very, very, wrong when one runs for President !

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Alan Chapprll
September 1, 2019 4:21 am

Here, …… I fixed it fer ya.

BUT !!! something has gone very, very, very, wrong when one 22 of them runs for President in the same election cycle!

Loydo
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 1, 2019 1:47 am

“This is no wild theory.”

The fact you need to announce that is a bit of a give away. I am far more concerned about wild-eyed, self-righteous zealots than Bernie Sanders.

Reply to  Loydo
September 1, 2019 2:22 am

Loydo – the history of socialist psychopaths like Hitler, Stalin and Mao is they come after their acolytes first. That means you.

Graemethecat
Reply to  Loydo
September 1, 2019 3:35 am

Care to point out what Allan Macrae has said which is false?

Loydo
Reply to  Loydo
September 1, 2019 3:42 am

Not even wrong. But echo-chambers’ll do that to ya.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Loydo
September 1, 2019 4:28 am

Loydo – September 1, 2019 at 1:47 am

I am far more concerned about wild-eyed, self-righteous zealots than Bernie Sanders.

So, Loydo, ……. those female POTUS candidates scares the BEJESUS out of you, do they.

Well now, I just hafta agree with you on that one.

MarkW
Reply to  Loydo
September 1, 2019 8:19 am

“I am far more concerned about wild-eyed, self-righteous zealots”

Loydo’s talking about itself.

MarkW
Reply to  Loydo
September 1, 2019 8:20 am

Typical Loydo, when asked to put up, it changes the subject.

ironargonaut
Reply to  Loydo
September 1, 2019 11:30 am

Floyd’s afraid of CAGW proponents like wild eyed self rightous zealot Al Gore. I am surprised he admits this.

John
Reply to  Loydo
September 2, 2019 5:05 pm

“wild-eyed, self-righteous zealots”? That seems to describe Bernie Sanders pretty accurately.

old white guy
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 1, 2019 5:07 am

Those who support socialism/communism think that they will get something for nothing and never have to work. They ignore the historical fact that they will become actual slaves to government and just barely be able to avoid starvation, while working all their miserable lives in support of their masters. As has been said forever, there is no cure for stupid.

joe
Reply to  David Guy-Johnson
August 31, 2019 3:39 pm

I don’t mind Bernie going after the oil company execs, but only AFTER, they convict all current and past, US Congress members, Senators, and Presidents on the same charges.

Curious George
Reply to  David Guy-Johnson
August 31, 2019 4:07 pm

He really is a socialist.

LdB
Reply to  Curious George
September 1, 2019 8:51 pm

He is an idiot dressed up as a politician who really wants to start a civil war.

commieBob
Reply to  David Guy-Johnson
August 31, 2019 4:11 pm

You’re wrong. They’re not a little insane. They are a lot insane. 🙂

The left wing mind loves abstraction. That makes it very easy to become unmoored from reality in a manner that mimics one form of schizophrenia.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  commieBob
September 1, 2019 4:43 am

Some people, especially the lefties, just can’t “mentally adjust” to their newly acquired “money and/or power” and thus they become neurotically driven by “hook or by crook” to acquire more and more of the same.

It doesn’t matter how much they acquire, ……. it is still not enough.

Aka: Bernie, Hillary n’ Bill and the Obamas.

IC Weiner
Reply to  commieBob
September 1, 2019 5:00 pm

That sounds like an apt description of Donald Drumpf. Fox is even Fake news to him now…it doesn’t jive with his reality.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  David Guy-Johnson
August 31, 2019 6:24 pm

David,

“a little” ??????

More like either Full Retard or criminally psychotic.

old white guy
Reply to  David Guy-Johnson
September 1, 2019 5:03 am

Bernie and all his fellow communists are suicidal. They never seem to grasp the fact that they will also die because of their policies.

Sam Pyeatte
Reply to  David Guy-Johnson
September 2, 2019 6:20 pm

Sanders is a certifiable idiot who is slowly going senile, displaying evil intent by wanting to punish everyone who refuses to kiss his…ring.

Mark Broderick
August 31, 2019 2:13 pm

Nice one David..,,

rbabcock
August 31, 2019 2:36 pm

Bernie is a sideshow. Not sure why he gets the attention he gets.

SMC
Reply to  rbabcock
August 31, 2019 3:16 pm

Because, unfortunately, Bernie is not a sideshow. There are a lot of people that support him.

MarkW
Reply to  rbabcock
August 31, 2019 3:54 pm

If he didn’t exist, we’d have to invent him.

He nakedly expresses what we suspect all of them are thinking.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  MarkW
August 31, 2019 5:01 pm

Let’s just say “The stupid, it Berns.

Schitzree
Reply to  Pop Piasa
September 1, 2019 12:18 am

Damn, I want that on a T-shirt now.

~¿~

Jimmy Haigh
August 31, 2019 2:44 pm

These hypocritical bastards really make me puke every time I see them in a car or a plane. Or a mega million yacht made from carbon fibre.

Sara
August 31, 2019 2:50 pm

Oh, well, if he’s endorsed by that fat b*st*rd Maduro, he is definitely NOT on my list of people who will get my vote.

It appears that he thinks there doesn’t have to be an actual law if he wants to say the oil companies broke it. Is that the correct interpretation of his addlepated twitterpating?

Jimmy Haigh
August 31, 2019 2:52 pm

All users of fossil fuels should be prosecuted if they believe that their use harms the environment.

shrnfr
Reply to  Jimmy Haigh
August 31, 2019 3:26 pm

Does that include people who drive on asphalt roads or drive on concrete roads where the cement was made using coal? Inquiring minds want to know.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  shrnfr
August 31, 2019 5:24 pm

I think his point is that it includes comrade Sanders.

Sara
Reply to  Jimmy Haigh
September 1, 2019 8:32 am

Gee whiz, Jimmy, I don’t know if that works for me. Natural gas keeps my little house cozy and warm and cooks my food, heats my water, and keeps my kitty contented. I don’t think there’s any harm in that, do you?

SMC
August 31, 2019 2:52 pm

Bernie Sanders is a communist. What more needs to be said?

Earthling2
Reply to  SMC
August 31, 2019 5:28 pm

Where is Senator Joseph McCarthy when you need him…Bernie Sanders is a total self admitted Socialist if not a card carrying Communist which he is proud to yell that at the top of his lungs. Although I hope he gets the nomination because I know Americans will not vote heavily for a socialist/communist.

It looks like the Demo’s have a weak ticket for 2020, which should make for a cake walk for Trump. But it is time for President Trump to turn on full professional mode and really show he is a transformational President, one that only comes along once in a generation or two. Ronald Reagan was the last transformational president that planted a lot of seeds for the future course of the world.

DMacKenzie
August 31, 2019 3:01 pm

He also wants to prosecute Amazon for his wife’s Credit card bill, the firewood delivery guy for the smoke in his backyard, and car manufacturers for his speeding and parking tickets.

davidq
August 31, 2019 3:02 pm

OH! That image. The memories.
I started humming the Soviet national anthem, then scurried around to find my five year plan and started calling everyone comrade.

Nik
August 31, 2019 3:04 pm

Bernie and all the lefties fail to remember that they, too, USE those evil fossil fuels, to heat their homes, generate electricity to light and cool their homes, to fuel their cars and planes, etc. No one forced them to use those fuels. Therefore, they are equally culpable of whatever made-up crimes Bernie can think of, for having willingly and knowingly enjoyed the benefits of using those evil, dangerous fuels.

joe
Reply to  Nik
August 31, 2019 4:40 pm

I’m waiting for Bernie to start flying by solar powered dirigibles.

Kevin kilty
Reply to  joe
August 31, 2019 5:34 pm

The helium would have come from a gas well in Wyoming, or if he uses hydrogen it would come from reforming natural gas.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Nik
September 1, 2019 4:54 am

Bernie and all the other lefties are no different than all the tele-evangelists Preachers ya see and/or hear on TV and radio …….. whose bottom-line message is ……. “send me your money” and I will save you from the evils of hell fire and damnation.

rubberduck
August 31, 2019 3:09 pm

I like how Trump makes his opponents go insane. The problem is that the Republicans have no successor to Trump, so one of these insane people is likely to be elected president in 2024.

Robert W. Turner
Reply to  rubberduck
August 31, 2019 4:24 pm

Cruz in a landslide 2024.

RobM
Reply to  Robert W. Turner
August 31, 2019 8:52 pm

Not natural born. Constitutionally ineligible.

TEWS_Pilot
Reply to  RobM
September 1, 2019 6:17 am

Q: Is Sen. Ted Cruz, who was born in Canada, eligible to be the U.S. president?
A: Most likely. The legal consensus is that Cruz qualifies because he was born to a U.S. citizen living abroad, making him a U.S. citizen at birth.

TEWS_Pilot
Reply to  David Middleton
September 1, 2019 6:53 am

In contrast, on the Hawaiian “birth certificate” that the Obama campaign put on their website, Barack Obama’s father’s RACE is listed as AFRICAN. There is no such “race” as AFRICAN. Africa is a CONTINENT, comprised of many NATIONS, comprised of many RACES. Blacks at the time of Obama’s birth were listed as “NEGRO” or in some cases, “NEGROID”.

Can anyone explain why Barack Obama’s father’s RACEwas listed as AFRICAN? His mother was listed as “Caucasian,” as it should be. What color is an “AFRICAN?”

Ben of Houston
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
September 1, 2019 11:44 pm

TEWS, there isn’t a legal consensus. This is a clear and unquestionable definition. He was child of a citizen and a legal resident. His citizen mother had lived in America for her entire childhood. Therefore, he is a birthright citizen.

Obama, on the other hand, was the son of a citizen mother and a foreign father. This required his citizen parent to reside in America for 18 years. However, his mother was sixteen at his birth. Therefore, he had to be born in America to qualify.

That being said, TEWS, I would guess that that was how Hawaii labeled it at the time. If it was wrong, then the official records of the Hawaiian government are wrong. Also, as the copy provided was a recent version provided from their records (presumably the original was lost), it is possible that their archives were censored, replacing “Negro” with a “African”. If there was such a colossal mishap, you’d think it would come to the attention of everyone involved. After all, if they were faking it, you’d think that they would create a convincing document.

TEWS_Pilot
Reply to  Ben of Houston
September 2, 2019 12:02 am

Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Arizona officially examined the Barack Obama Hawaiian certificate with a team of forensics experts and proved beyond any doubt that the published “Certificate of Live Birth” was a forgery. He made his findings public. Even the place of Obama’s birth and the name of the actual hospital changed a couple of times, and one place that was claimed didn’t even exist at the time of his birth. For his effort, the Deep State destroyed Joe Arpaio. It is moot by now, but there is enough doubt about Barack Obama’s actual place of birth and true citizenship to need an asterisk on his presidency.

Can anyone tell me what RACE — not NATIONALITY (which also doesn’t make sense) — is an “African?”

MarkW
Reply to  RobM
September 1, 2019 8:22 am

He was a citizen at birth due to his mother being a citizen, therefore he is eligible.

peterh
Reply to  Robert W. Turner
August 31, 2019 9:47 pm

That would be one of the better outcomes possible.

jtom
Reply to  rubberduck
August 31, 2019 4:26 pm

Ivanka for President, 2024. It would be deliciously enjoyable to see her break the ‘glass ceiling’ that Hillary could not.

Dan Cody
Reply to  jtom
August 31, 2019 4:43 pm

Mark Rubio for prez. 2024.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  rubberduck
August 31, 2019 4:37 pm

Trumplicans believe that President Trump, like any good CEO, is already working his succession plan in the background. He has 5 years, and this stuff usually gets ‘obvious’ about 2 years out. Will be another part of his eternal legacy.
And it isn’t Pence. Since nothing President Trump does is traditional or Uniparty Republican. Pence is a terrific two term VP for him. That is all.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Rud Istvan
August 31, 2019 9:47 pm

Pence is terrific Impeachment-Removal barrier for Democrats.

Remove Trump –> President Pence x 2 terms + Trump’s remainder.

The Dumbocrats can’t see that their allowing Bill Clinton to remain as President in 1998 after his bald-faced Monica lies to the American public meant a huge distaste for Democrats in enough voters to elect (barely) Bush Jr. Had they done the honorable thing, Gore would’ve been the incumbent running against Bush in 2000 and Gore probably would’ve won easily.

Democrats can never bring themselves to do the honorable thing in any circumstance if it defies their immediate need for political power.

TEWS_Pilot
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 31, 2019 10:15 pm

“The Scorpion and the Frog ~ also told as the Scorpion and the Turtle>/b> ~ Democrats ~ also known as Dumbocrats ~ are scorpions and will be forever.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
September 1, 2019 7:18 am

Joel O’Bryan – August 31, 2019 at 9:47 pm

Pence is terrific Impeachment-Removal barrier for Democrats.
Remove Trump –> President Pence x 2 terms + Trump’s remainder.

VP Pence is doing exactly what a VPOTUS is expected to do, …… support the POTUS but don’t “upstage” him.

I hafta assume that you musta been thinking about Biden when you claimed a “terrific Impeachment-Removal barrier”.

By hook or by crook, …… or by dastardly, devious, dishonest acts, ….. the Democrat Party is intent on winning the next General Election.

Already they are “instilling” the fear that all “voting machines” can be hacked, …… even though they are just as safe as ATMs..

ironargonaut
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
September 1, 2019 11:42 am

Remember after Florida they were the ones who demanded them. In fact they wanted only one system per state at least. What’s easier to manipulate thousands of different county systems or 52 state or 1 federal system? They assumed any manipulation would be done by them.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
September 2, 2019 3:52 am

There are literally MILLIONS of ATMs that are in use, ….. every day n’ night of every week, ….. and they are not being “hacked” by criminals or political operatives ……. and neither are or have there ever been any electronic voting machines “hacked” by anyone.

And neither have there ever been any of the MILLIONS of electronic Lottery (PowerBall) machines ever been “hacked”.

Dems can “steal” elections iffen “paper ballots” of one form or another are used, …… but not when electronic voting machines are used.

People with guns can “hack” the users of ATMs, …… but not the users of electronic voting machines.

TEWS_Pilot
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
September 2, 2019 12:39 pm

Nobody has to hack them, they just have to have crooks running the voting and the count as in Broward County Florida and maybe a couple of other counties as was exposed during the 2016 “recount.” I won’t rehash it, but the massive fraud is still available if someone wants to review the reports that were published. I believe there were some firings and possibly some charges filed. Other similar fraud occurred in a few swing states as well.

August 31, 2019 3:10 pm

I want to prosecute all manufacturers for providing easy access to food that enabled aunt Suzie to get massively obese, diabetic and died of coronary heart disease before her time. [“Aunt Suzie” here is a fictional character representing all people who die from gluttonous indulgence in easily accessible foods].

Nabisco knew.
Ritz knew.
Sprouts, Wallmart, Aldi, etc. all knew.

At what point will America’s political system require candidates to NOT be this stupid?

Ron Long
August 31, 2019 3:18 pm

Where does this end? What if one of this collection of Socialists (they all sound like commie wannabees) wins a Presidential election? If not 2020 then the next one? Here’s the scary part: millions of supposedly registered and legitimate US voters are voting for them! This isn’t the Party of Kennedy anymore, that’s for sure. What am I supposed to do…I swore to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic, and when you leave active service they don’t ask you to take it back. What a mess.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Ron Long
August 31, 2019 5:28 pm

Perhaps Trump has shown the way to the presidency and this may thin out the RINOS and reform Republicans, backing them away from the gradual drift to the left. Trump , with his bombast, has made “outrageousness” a little more commonplace and accessible to ones who may follow (maybe Donald Jr. or Ted Cruz).

The Democrat Party, too, will shift to right just to survive or it will be out of the picture for a generation or more. Collapse of the Marxbrothers Global Plan and Global Warming will speed this up. The shift from left to right will be accomplished by new blood, not transformation of the corrupted dinosaurs.

If I were counseling a prospective Democrat contender, It would be a no brainer. Step away from the flock of socialist clowns and battle with Trump in support of the policies that Trump failed to accomplish. Get on with the wall, jump into the breach with infrastructural projects, clear out the global warming clones and other deep staters.

I see no sign of such intelligence yet among the trainload of D contenders. Trump has given them the tools but no takers. My prediction, Trump will win this one with a majority.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Gary Pearse
September 1, 2019 7:30 am

My prediction, Trump will win this one with a majority.

“YUP”, and the “stuck-pig squeal” of the Democrats and Socialist liberal “troughfeeders” will be the LOUDEST “shot ever heard round the world”.

Michael 2
August 31, 2019 3:29 pm

The problem, as I see it, is that “torts” are not criminal; they are civil. In other words, I can sue for a tort, but I cannot imprison or cause you to be imprisoned. To sue for tort, actual harm must (usually) be demonstrated, and then demonstrated how exactly you caused it. That’s two very large uncertainties right there to overcome.

There’s no doubt that if the next president is a Democrat some of that virtue signaling will turn into law, regulation and/or executive orders.

commieBob
Reply to  Michael 2
August 31, 2019 4:49 pm

Well, there’s the constitution and there’s the fact that President Trump has stacked every court he can. link Some folks think his influence will last a generation, by which time we’ll be worried about global cooling again.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  commieBob
September 1, 2019 7:40 am

“Well, there’s the constitution”

Obama et el paid no attention to the COTUS ….. unless it supported his actions.

One can not “fundamentally change America”, …… while at the same time faithfully obeying the COTUS.

ScienceABC123
August 31, 2019 3:34 pm

More evidence the left views “prosecution” as a political tool.

mario lento
August 31, 2019 3:37 pm

The whole attack on oil but the left reminds me of watching lemmings jump off a cliff. That they can’t see it is one of the stunning explanations of why they cannot be reasoned with. They do not need another correcting re-education camp, they need to swallow the red pill.

Paul
August 31, 2019 4:03 pm

Is Bernie going to give up oil n gas? Is he going to give up his lifestyle and live like they did in the middle ages?
If not then shut up Bernie!

rwisrael
August 31, 2019 4:04 pm

If Bernie were gay, he would be the Red Queen, from Alice. Off with their heads. Some democrat.

Dan Cody
August 31, 2019 4:05 pm

Does this mean ‘THE BERN’ is going to stop taking planes and driving cars in protest of fossil fuels? HA! The inconvenient truth for such a socialist hypocrite! Maybe he should be put in a home in the dead of winter without home heating fuel and see what it feels like.

Gordon Dressler
August 31, 2019 4:11 pm

Careful now . . . it’s only one very tiny next step to call for prosecuting (i.e., back taxing) all those who purchased the products made by the oil & gas industry. After all, those people were—and currently are—the “enablers” for said industry.

LdB
Reply to  Gordon Dressler
September 1, 2019 8:56 pm

That is the problem with a prosecution every person in the country is complicit except probably the Amish.

August 31, 2019 4:16 pm

Does Bernie use a bicycle 100 %. Of course not.

MJE VK5ELL

SocietalNorm
Reply to  Michael
September 2, 2019 3:22 pm

Can’t make a bicycle without coal or petroleum substances.
Don’t see many bicycles around made entirely of wood from old-growth forests.

Robert W. Turner
August 31, 2019 4:22 pm

We have a dictator running for president with about 1/6th of the nation’s support.

RHS
August 31, 2019 4:23 pm

GOOD! I hope he and his supporters try hard, damn hard. To prove damages, they’ll have to.prove science. Especially since none of them buy the discussion point about natural variability.
Force them to prove it in court. This is one time the lawyers deserve to make make for having a fool for a client.

Tom Abbott
August 31, 2019 4:27 pm

Someone should tell Bernie that others have sued the oil companies in the past and their lawsuits didn’t turn out very well. They lost.

Bernie, the problem is you have no proof that CO2 is doing what you claim it is doing. Judges need proof when they decide cases. If you decide to pursue such an action, you will find out just how little evidence you have available to you.

Imo, none of the Demcrats have a chance of winning the election, and that includes Bernie. I think it is going to be an overwhelming win for Trump.

Proof of CAGW, Bernie. You don’t have any proof. You don’t need proof for stump speeches, but you do need proof in court. We will never see this scenario play out, because Bernie won’t be elected.

I want to see one of these Democrats seriously propose to take away our gasoline. That will be the end of their political career.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 1, 2019 7:50 am

Someone should tell Bernie that others have sued the oil companies in the past and their lawsuits didn’t turn out very well.

Bernie isn’t going to sue anyone, today, tomorrow or next year.

Bernie just wants the “votes” of those liberal wackos that want him to sue the fossil fuel providers.

August 31, 2019 4:31 pm

Maybe the oil corps will be regretting all that money they never sent sceptics.
… and let’s be honest … all the greenmail they paid out.

commieBob
August 31, 2019 4:36 pm

We are living in an Earthly Paradise thanks to fossil fuels. Steven Pinker points out that globally, almost every metric of human well being is improving.

Bernie Sanders and his ilk are the enemies of humanity and should be prosecuted as such.

jtom
August 31, 2019 4:41 pm

Do any of them ever think this through? What will happen if they criminalize oil execs? Who would take the job? No one would take the responsibility to run the companies, regardless of job title; the companies would shut down. Now how would Bernie travel from one of his houses to the next without petrol or jet fuel? And how many candles would it take to light those homes?

Well, of course he has no intention on doing any such thing. He is just playing to the stupidity of his followers (and gross stupidty is a requirement for being a follower). Unfortunately, the tens of millions in fly-over America are not stupid.

The only place Ole Bernie is going is home.

John Bell
August 31, 2019 4:48 pm

Bernie likes his sports cars.

Ross
August 31, 2019 5:05 pm

Reminds me of the old Soviet joke: Stalin is found alive and living in Siberia. They beg him to come back and save the country. After some persuasion he agrees, but adds, “This time, no more Mr. Nice Guy.”

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Ross
August 31, 2019 6:23 pm

“This time, no more Mr. Nice Guy.”

Now that’s funny! 🙂

n.n
August 31, 2019 5:24 pm

Planned Petroleum (PP). Sure, why not.

n.n
August 31, 2019 5:29 pm

You don’t need a law or justice. It’s an appeal to empathy. Social justice demands it. The established Pro-Choice quasi-religious/moral philosophy, selective, opportunistic, unprincipled, rationalizes it. Let us bray to mortal gods, that they may sequester unworthy carbon-based life, and redistribute the Green blight upon the land and water.

peterh
Reply to  n.n
August 31, 2019 10:03 pm

They fail to realize how much the LAW protects them from those they criticize.

n.n
August 31, 2019 5:34 pm

The organic black blob vs the anthropogenic green blight.

Glyphosate
There is rapid elimination, no biotransformation, and minimal tissue retention of glyphosate in various species, including mammals, birds, and fish.

Another warlock trial (e.g. trial by press and lawyer)? Unless they pay the social indulgence and pledge their allegiance, the black blob’s days are numbered. Oh, and sequester a carbon-based human life for good measure.

accordionsrule
August 31, 2019 5:35 pm

This would make a great disaster movie plot. An unstable president arrests the executives of all the oil companies, the industry collapses, unpaid workers walk off their jobs. Coal, oil and gas stop flowing. The country plunges into darkness and trucking, railroad and air traffic grinds to a halt. Chaos ensues. Citizens of large cities walk into the countryside in a futile search for food for their families, others turn to violence. Meanwhile the President and his henchmen live comfortable lives in their bunkers.
How else could this possibly play out?

Michael C. Roberts
Reply to  accordionsrule
September 1, 2019 9:43 pm

Well, if anything like post-revolutionary USSR, political enemies are the first to be arrested, are ‘interrogated’ (read: tortured) to obtain a ‘confession’, then prosecuted in a (kangaroo) court-of-law, that is in fact creating law precedent as it prosecutes. This is how the socialists can/have/will again prosecute (persecute?) persons based on currently non-existent laws. The map was laid out from th early 1918’s through the mid 1930’s. Sentences of a minimum ten years (a ‘tenner’), up to death by firing squad were the norm then; as ardent as the left is today in regards to speaking of killing us based, scientific lot…what is there to stop them today? In the best case outcome, a string of work camps for those who escape death after trial, established to provide cheap labor to support the new government’s five-year plans.
Then come those that merely have spoken ill of the established government, following the above pattern. And all associated with every ‘subversive organization’s they may been affiliated with…and their families/associates/acquaintances as well. To trial with them all!
Then come the ‘wreckers’…..those in positions of decision-making and infrastructure management. As the five-year plans fail, the new government comes to find those whose decisions have ‘wrecked the plan’…and off to trial they go, as above.
Yes, this is the socialist way forward that the voting populace of America is ignorant of. Should they succeed in gaining a foothold in America, it will not proceed well..at first. Just remember the words of Japanse Fleet Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto:

“You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.”

Even if Yamamoto never said this, it is no less of a fact. If an election does go to the communists/Democratic Socialists, the populace would have a very short time for this quote to bear fruit (please note, this statement is not meant to advocate violence, unless required by extreme circumstances as the creators of the Constitution of the USA intended).

Regards,

MCR

Serge Wright
August 31, 2019 5:37 pm

Has Bernie has considered the consequences of his idea ?

If such a proposal did become law it would put an abrupt end to a large percentage of global fossil fuel production and cause a global depression much larger than the 1930 experience. The only difference being this depression would have no means of economic recovery. Most likley it would result in a rapid 10% population reduction in the USA alone, meaning Bernie would be remembered in the pages of history for sanctioning the deaths of more people than any other any tyrant leader in the world’s history.

peterh
Reply to  Serge Wright
August 31, 2019 10:09 pm

And this is why NONE of the current crop of democrats must EVER be allowed to occupy the White House. They ALL endorse similarly ruinous plans, and unconstitutional means to carry them out if need be.

Reply to  Serge Wright
September 1, 2019 11:58 am

Serge,
“If such a proposal did become law it would put an abrupt end to a large percentage of global fossil fuel production and cause a global depression much larger than the 1930 experience.”
Indeed.
That is – in someone else’s words – a feature, not a bug.

Target global population varies between putative dictators – but it will certainly be south of a billion [and perhaps half that]. Current world population is about 7,700,000,000. [Source – https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/#top20 ]

And many allowed to live will be serfs or concubines for the illuminati [illuminated by a bright red light, I suppose . . .].

Auto

LdB
Reply to  auto
September 1, 2019 8:53 pm

That and about a couple of weeks later all hell breaks out because he engineered it and you would be lucky to not start a civil war.

Pop Piasa
August 31, 2019 5:39 pm

Bernie promises to go further than any other presidential candidate in history to end the fossil fuel industry’s greed benefits to civilization, including by making the industry pay for its reduction of urban pollution over coal furnace usage and prosecuting it for the damage benefit it has caused.”

Joel O'Bryan
August 31, 2019 6:19 pm

Bernie Sanders is the “Gift that Keeps on Giving.”
To Trump, the GOP, to Conservatives.

Even the Dumbocrats despise Bernie, becasue he’s not really a Democrat. He has only joined the Democratic Party during Presidential Primary Campaigns and then resigns afterward he’s defeated.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bernie-sanders-leaves-the-democratic-party/

He only Caucuses with Senate Democrats as an Independent – Socialist. He has never run on the Socialist Party of America ticket because he knows that’s a Loser Ticket …. guaranteed.
But this time around for 2020, if Bernie gets the DNC prez nomination … Trump will wipe him away like Nixon did the socialist in hiding McGovern in 1972.

ResourceGuy
August 31, 2019 6:20 pm

He’s in full book seller rant mode now. He’s aiming for a Martha’s Vineyard estate with this one.

M__ S__
August 31, 2019 6:26 pm

If he doesn’t like them he should stop using them

michael hart
August 31, 2019 6:26 pm

Bernie’s approach to government will be recognized by many:

August 31, 2019 6:39 pm

This is why I don’t believe that the left really cares about the environment. “The Bern” doesn’t care about the future of the rule of law. On every other issue the left chooses the me right now option. It is only on the environment that the left seems to cares about the distant future. I don’t believe them. I think they just talk about the environment to appeal to people of a right wing bent. That is why they don’t care that their leaders are so hypocritical on environmental issues. It’s because they don’t actually care about the environment.

peterh
Reply to  Starman
August 31, 2019 10:15 pm

The democrats become so much easier to understand if you assume that any position they take is purely to advance their power.

August 31, 2019 6:47 pm

This is why I don’t believe that the left really cares about the environment. The ‘Bern’ doesn’t care about the future of the rule of the law why would be care about the future of the environment. He doesn’t. It is why the left can tolerate their leaders flying to environment conferences. They don’t really care about the environment. The environmental issue was adopted by the left as a way to appeal to the right while promoting their other issues.

Peter Fraser
August 31, 2019 8:31 pm

Bernie is living proof that wisdom does not necessarily come with age.

TEWS_Pilot
August 31, 2019 8:51 pm

Bernie gets a rude awakening rebound from REALITY regarding his “Green New Deal.”
Bernie Sanders vs. Speed Bag:
https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1166459973372698627
Speed Bag: 1
Wind Bag: 0

Killer Marmot
August 31, 2019 9:07 pm

If one can prosecute those who knowingly cause damage, and Sanders destroys the oil industry in the U.S., driving up energy prices and plunging the country into recession, could one then prosecute Bernie Sanders?

Ancient Mariner
September 1, 2019 12:19 am

It must be remembered that Hitler’s National Socialist (NAZI) party won in a democratic election by a
large majority. Could the US be stupid enough to repeat the same mistake?

bonbon
Reply to  Ancient Mariner
September 1, 2019 1:58 am

Bought and paid for by Wall Street (Harriman Bro’s Prescott Bush) and Bank of England’s Norman Montague. Versailles debt payments were guaranteed by Hitler’s minister Hjalmar Schacht of the Bank of International Settlements, of labor camp infamy. Leading Keynesian Abba Lerner praised Schacht, publicly regretting it took Hitler to enforce it.
As The Bern is pushing Keynes on steroids, he ought to read the preamble to the first edition, in Germany, of Keynes’ famous tome :

“The theory of aggregate production, which is the point of the following book, nevertheless can be much easier adapted to the conditions of a totalitarian state than the theory of production and distribution of a given production put forth under conditions of free competition and a large degree of laissez-faire. This is one of the reasons that justifies the fact that I call my theory a general theory.”

There you have it in black and white.

WR2
September 1, 2019 12:44 am

If you are going to convict oil companies, then aren’t you going to convict the leftist union workers that profiteered from both the production and burning of those evil fossil fuels? And the society as a whole that benefited from the energy produced, and the increased quality of life? Well I don’t know about you, but I’m not going to sit here and listen to you bad mouth the united states of america! (animal house reference)

bonbon
September 1, 2019 2:19 am

As regards totalitarian states – The Bern is pushing a GND with unlimited printing. This is so-called Modern Monetary Theory, MMT, based on Keynes . As The Bern is pushing Keynes on steroids, he ought to read the preamble to the first edition, in Germany in 1936, of Keynes’ famous tome, General Theory :

“The theory of aggregate production, which is the point of the following book, nevertheless can be much easier adapted to the conditions of a totalitarian state than the theory of production and distribution of a given production put forth under conditions of free competition and a large degree of laissez-faire. This is one of the reasons that justifies the fact that I call my theory a general theory.”

There you have it in black and white. Wrong mug-shot though. Lord John Maynard Keynes’ British efforts to push a Bancor instead of the Dollar after WWII, surfaced just last week again with the SHC (Synthetic Hegenomic Currency) of Bank.of England Carney, outside any elected gov’t.
So here we go again and The Bern I am completely sure has no clue what he is doing.

We need a New Bretton Woods right now to counter this onslaught.

And by the way it took FDR and Stalin to rid the world of that other totalitarian. The bankers did not get their Bancor, and spent billions over decades to take down the last remnants of Bretton Woods. The open move to totalitarian world currency, green liquidity, comes as their utterly bankrupt casino implodes. Situate Greta. Merkel, Bernie, AOC, Soros, Davos, Ursula, in this assault.

TEWS_Pilot
September 1, 2019 8:48 am

Bernie Sanders Promises to Erase Medical Debt
https://thebeardedpatriot.com/bernie-sanders-promises-to-erase-medical-debt/

While he is at it, maybe he can also erase all MORTGAGE debt, all CREDIT CARD debt, all PERSONAL LOAN debt, all CAR LOAN debt, all….

Sanders’s plan would cancel $81 billion in existing past-due medical debt, repeal parts of the 2005 Bankruptcy reform bill and ensure that unpaid medical bills do not impact one’s credit score.

This is not the first time Sanders has promised to erase debt across the board. He also proposed to cancel $1.6 trillion in student debt via the College For All Act, which would cost roughly $2 trillion. That is in addition to his $16 trillion Green New Deal proposal and his plans to implement Medicare for All, which could cost the U.S. anywhere from $32 trillion to $60 trillion over the next decade alone.

Hugs
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
September 1, 2019 11:54 am

Who pays it? Bernie answers: there are those wall-integrated machines, whatsisitsname, ATMs. We just make more ATMs and the problem is solved. Now, it could cause a little bit of inflation and it could he you needed gold or something else internationally traded to buy bread after that, but in principle you could just print money and share it with people in det. Oviously. And they called Trump mad?

‘Bernie promises to go further than any other presidential candidate in history to end the fossil fuel industry’s greed, including by making the industry pay for its pollution and prosecuting it for the damage it has caused. ‘

This has less chances to be implemented than the great southern wall paid by Mexico, and more legal obstacles, but hey, who said Bernie was a nice bright young chap? In fact you can make industry pay for the damages it has caused. Bernie didn’t go into detail what is the damage in his legal theory, so maybe the promise can’t be broken.

Somebody ask him details and sink his ship. But not before we know if he’s gonna beat Biden.

William Haas
September 1, 2019 2:56 pm

Those who believe that the burning of fossil fuels is bad should stop making use of all goods and services that make use of fossil fuels for it is those people that make make use of goods and services that make use of fossil fuels that keep the fossil fuel companies in business. Mr. Sanders is one of these people. He is wearing clothes and eating food that has been transported by truck. He is being transported around by fossil fuel burning forms of transit. He enters buildings and walks on surfaces whose construction involved the use of fossil fuels. Electricity generated by the burning of fossil fuels has been an important part of Mr. Sanders’ political campaigns. Mr. Sanders has himself been doing quite a bit to keep the fossil fuel companies in business.

Michael H Anderson
September 1, 2019 3:43 pm

Will someone please…dammit, I can’t say it, can I? You know: that thing Henry II said about Thomas a Becket.

Gunga Din
September 1, 2019 4:24 pm

Bernie wants to hold “fossil fuel” executives personally responsible?
How about going back and holding the executives of companies that received millions of taxpayer dollars such as Solyndra, that then went bankrupt? There are dozens of others that got cash in the name of “Going Green” (or maybe “Sustainable” is the becoming the new buzz word?) Those political contributor execs walked away leaving the taxpayers holding the bag.
Why not go after them?
I know why.
Bernie doesn’t want to acknowledge or address corruption within his own green wet dream.

Davis
September 2, 2019 5:55 am

Is today’s Dumbocrap party really any different than the one that Republican President Lincoln fought against regarding slavery? They all seem to want to bring us back to the 1800’s.

Amber
September 3, 2019 12:18 pm

Bernie the shaking , yelling human tomato should stop using all those legally available fossil fuels .
Really what is happening is Bernie doesn’t want the job , is unfit for the job and will get passed over …. again
because he has no real chance of being elected . Time better spent sorting out his wife’s legal problems
and huffing and puffing on a commie campus somewhere .

Amber
September 3, 2019 12:23 pm

People like Bernie are so used to huffing and puffing , yelling and gesturing that they forget they are not talking to college kids who have to be there and for the most part figure out what sand box to play in .

Seriously Bernie a communist USA ? Nah but you are entertaining .

Al Millera
September 4, 2019 7:14 am

What’s really disturbing is that there seems to be an entire generation who have completely lost touch with history despite all the ability we have to read up on it. Were they aware of the despotic tyranny of the past would they so readily support such madness? I fear it will take a full descent into green hell before the people wake up, and a full on war to remove the entrenched powers from their greedy seats.

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