Chris White Tech Reporter
September 05, 2019 12:45 AM ET
- CNN’s seven-hour climate town hall allowed ten of the top Democratic presidential candidates to flesh out their positions on climate change, with two of the front-runners expressing support for the Green New Deal.
- Mayor Peter Buttigieg suggested the Democrat’s fight against climate change could be more challenging than even World War II.
- Sen. Bernie Sanders offered a one-word reply when CNN asked him if he would reinstate bans on certain kinds of light bulbs.
The Democratic Party’s top presidential candidates took turns at CNN’s climate town hall Wednesday hashing out their positions on everything from banning plastic straws to eliminating fossil fuel production.
Businessman Andrew Yang, Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey and Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont all plan to plow trillions of dollars into climate change mitigation. Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts meanwhile has staked much of her campaign on holding oil companies responsible for man-made global warming.
Wednesday’s town hall allowed ten of the top performing candidates to voice their positions on climate change and environmentalism. Here are seven of the most significant moments that happened during the event. (RELATED: Sen. Booker Reveals $3 Trillion Climate Plan)
1: Biden Applauds The Green New Deal
“I think the Green New Deal deserves an enormous amount of credit,” former Vice President Joe Biden told CNN’s Anderson Cooper before listing off what he considers to be the problems with the much-criticized idea to stop global warming.
He noted that “85 percent of the problem” (climate change) is coming from the rest of the world.
2. Harris Says She Would Ding The Filibuster To Implement The GND
“If [Republicans] fail to act, as president of the United States, I am prepared to get rid of the filibuster to pass a Green New Deal,” Sen. Kamala Harris of California said to audience applause.
Harris said Republicans should “look in the mirror and ask themselves why they failed to act,” calling the fight for the GND one “against powerful interests.” Democrats would need to win Senate control along with the presidency to have any hope of ending the longstanding tradition.
3. Yang Won’t Talk About Electric Cars
Yang skirted questions about whether every American will need to drive electric cars in the future. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer asked Yang why he would promise federal funds for “potentially risky” and experimental means of energy production.
“We’re here together because we can. This is a crisis. In a crisis, all solutions have to be on the table. If you were attacking on one side, you should be researching various alternatives on the other side. That to me is just responsible management and responsible leadership,” Yang explained.
4. Sanders’ One Word Answer To A Question About Light Bulbs
“The Trump administration announced plans to overturn requirements on energy-saving lightbulbs. … Would you reinstate those requirements?” CNN’s Cooper asked Sanders, who has described himself as a self-avowed democratic socialist.
The Vermont senator answered with one word: “Duh.” Sanders’ comment came several hours after the Trump administration announced new rules Wednesday rolling back requirements for energy-saving light bulbs.
WATCH:
Anderson Cooper: “The Trump administration announced plans to overturn requirements on energy-saving lightbulbs. … Would you reinstate those requirements?”
Sen. Bernie Sanders: “Duh!” #ClimateTownHall
Anderson Cooper: "The Trump administration announced plans to overturn requirements on energy-saving lightbulbs. … Would you reinstate those requirements?"
Sen. Bernie Sanders: "Duh!" #ClimateTownHall https://t.co/uahYYnCcGW pic.twitter.com/yIzLPvocCZ
— CNN (@CNN) September 5, 2019
— CNN (@CNN) September 5, 2019
5. O’Rourke Wants To Bring The U.S. Back Into The Paris Climate Accord
Former Rep. Beto O’Rourke promised that he would re-enter the Paris agreement on “day-one” of his presidency. The Texas Democrat announced his climate plan in April, which will cost $5 trillion over 10 years to build out renewable energy and infrastructure, among a host of other pet projects.
6. Klobuchar Says No To New Coal Power Plants
“I wouldn’t allow for building of new coal plants.” Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar said in answer to a question about ending fossil fuel use and her hope to get to “carbon neutral by 2050.”
WATCH:
“I wouldn’t allow for building of new coal plants.” – Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar on ending fossil fuel use and her hope to get to “carbon neutral by 2050.” #ClimateTownHall
"I wouldn't allow for building of new coal plants." – Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar on ending fossil fuel use and her hope to get to "carbon neutral by 2050." #ClimateTownHall https://t.co/L0oMqeJkll pic.twitter.com/ztycMSuxVo
— CNN (@CNN) September 5, 2019
— CNN (@CNN) September 5, 2019
7. Buttigieg Likens Climate Fight To WWII
“This is the hardest thing we will have done — certainly in my lifetime. This is on par with winning World War II. Perhaps, even more challenging than that,” Mayor Peter Bugiegieg told CNN’s Chris Cuomo.
WATCH:
Pete Buttigieg: Combatting climate could be “more challenging than” winning World War II #ClimateTownHall
Pete Buttigieg: Combatting climate could be "more challenging than" winning World War II #ClimateTownHall https://t.co/Eb6GJlDCDU pic.twitter.com/U4Y9yM5EaU
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) September 5, 2019
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) September 5, 2019
Wow, must be the largest gathering of intellectual black holes ‘talking’…
//TJ
“I wouldn’t allow for building of new coal plants.”
But then nobody is building new coal plants in the USA
Nor are they likely to in the future: coal plants are still closing across the USA
Two in PA are being built right now, three which were idled have been brought back on line. You lose, yet again.
Like his claims about arctic sea ice, being wrong won’t stop him from continuing to make the same claims.
griff is fully convinced that any trend that he likes, will never change.
Coal plants are closing because at present natural gas is cheap. That won’t last forever. The mere fact that coal plants are closing is going to make the price of natural gas more expensive.
Having missed the seven hour Democrat rant on climate change. I have to rely solely on reports from those who had to suffer the numbing experience. From those reports (CNN mostly) It is clear, honesty no longer features in the skill set of Democrat Presidential candidates.
It would have been acceptable, if they were just guilty of ignorance. That is a condition we all start out with in life. Some of us, manage to reduce our innate ignorance as life goes along, maybe Democrats are less fortunate? The real issue here is, these Democrat candidates must know, what they are saying about man made global warming/climate change is both wrong and physically impossible. But no matter. They prefer to adopt the posture of a virtue signaller, rather than being factual and honest, purely for electoral advantage purposes. They want to reduce understanding, and they want to block the honest truth.
The other feature of the gathering that stands out, is they have all been told to say the same thing, but just add a little personalisation. Joe Biden clearly went a bit far with that. The overall policy instruction was clear. Make sure you tell people it is a crisis, no make that a global crisis! I guess it is easier to justify increasing taxes to solve a crisis….and of course a global crisis allows for global taxes.
“Town hall” meetings are OPEN TO THE PUBLIC…
When you hand pick each individual audience member, that is NOT a “town hall” meeting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_hall_meeting
“Town hall meetings, also referred to as town halls or town hall forums, are a way for local and national politicians to meet with their constituents, either to hear from them on topics of interest or to discuss specific upcoming legislation or regulation.”
I guess CNN was too chicken to hear what people might actually want…
““Town hall” meetings are OPEN TO THE PUBLIC…
When you hand pick each individual audience member, that is NOT a “town hall” meeting.”
That would be more properly described as a propaganda session. No skeptic thoughts allowed or tolerated.
One side of the story only.
Jerusalem
TEXT Hubert Parry
And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England’s mountains green?
And has the holy Lamb of God
Old England’s pleasent pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among those dark satanic mills?
Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear: o clouds unfold!
Bring me my chariots of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight;
Nor will my sword ever sheath
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England’s green and pleasant land.
source: Musixmatch
Songwriter: E. Elgar / Sir Hubert Parry
Songtext von Jerusalem © Word Music LLC, S.I.A.E. Direzione Generale, Crml Limited, Carlin Recorded Music Library Ltd., Music Sales Corp. O/B/o Leadchoice Ltd., Warner Bros Music A Div Of Warner Bros Inc., COPYRIGHT CONTROL (NON-HFA), MECHANICAL COPYRIGHT PROTECTION SOCIETY LTD, SONY/ATV SOUNDS LLC OBO STONEBRIDGE MUSIC, G. SCHIRMER, INC. O/B/O NOVELLO & COMPANY LTD., UNIVERSAL-POLYGRAM INT’L OBO UNIVERSAL CLASSICS AND JAZZ, G. SCHIRMER, INC. OBO J. CURWEN & SONS LTD., J. CURWEN & SONS, LTD. (G. SCHIRMER SOLE SELLING AGT), SONY/ATV TUNES LLC OBO JEFF COHEN MUSIC PUBLISHING, BUG MUSIC LTD. OBO DUNE MUSIC PUBLISHING
Parry? No.
William Blake!
And THIS is William Blake:
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-huawei&sxsrf=ACYBGNRYb1i58Zpv7EPLd_K-wu7sEgTU2g%3A1567874314006&ei=Ct1zXb0F56muBMLntNgH&q=william+blake+Jerusalem+poetry&oq=william+blake+Jerusalem+poetry&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.
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The difference is –
Blake = poetry, Perry = lyrics.
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Learn to differentiate, Anonymous in Alabama!
“Banning Plastic Straws”
For a moment, I thought it was “Burning Plastic Straws”. Well, it would provide some energy when the wind isn’t blowing.
It is great to see the Dems continuing the Climate Retardification™ of the Dimocrat Party. Never interrupt the enemy when they are making a mistake. They aren’t just the enemy of Republicans either. They are the enemy of democracy and of the US itself, and thus, traitors.
more bullshit in that room than on a cattle drive!
I’m glad I don’t have a TV to watch. I’d have cracked a rib or sprained something if I’d watched that gathering of the Smarmiest Clowns Ever.
At least they are not shy about what they say and how they want to destroy a stable, thriving economy. We have to know about them and all the crap they want to pull, so that we can vote them OUT.
This has nearly become the equivalent of a massive boil that itches and gets bigger and drives you nuts. It’s nice to know that these people don’t live in the Real World.
Funny how people who are incapable of running a small convenience store think they can be President.
For a minute there, I thought it said “Climate Clown Hall”.
Only Booker displayed some intelligence – he claimed the need for nuclear power and even gave an abbreviated reference to the next generation of nuclear technology – molten salt small moduler reactors that are inherently cheap, safe and have a minimal environmental footprint and can load follow , eliminating most of the need for peak level generators. At a levelized cost of production at 4 cents per kWhr, these reactors are going to replace all of the renewable crap and the U’S. could achieve zero carbon generation emissions and also power an entire fleet of electric cars for less than a $trillion dollars. Russia, India and China are scrambling to deploy this new nuclear technology. If the U.S. continues sinking money into solar/wind. we will not be competitive in manufacturing, which is what happened to Germany when they went hog wild for solar/wind.
My favorite of the night was Bernie proclaiming his support for mass, forced abortions in 3rd world countries. Please, PLEASE keep talking, let the entire world know exactly what you are thinking!
While Bernie might not know it, most of the world’s most populous countries have fertility rates below replacement, ie ~2.1 children per woman. Of 191 states on the list linked below, 88 are under replacement and many near it. The only continent on which every country is above replacement is Africa, often far exceeding that rate.
Many non-African states with high fertility rates are Muslim majority or have large Islamic minorities, as in the Christian-majority Phillipines or Hindu-majority India, whose overall rate isn’t very high. Other Muslim states are below replacement.
No wonder Bernie remains less popular among black than white Democrat voters. He wants to abort African and Muslim babies.
Niger tops the list at 7.153 children per woman. Forty-one countries on the continent top 3.00. The African country with the fertility rate closest to replacement, at 2.147, is Tunisia, Muslim but more Westernized than most.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/total-fertility-rate/
The highest non-African countries are Christian East Timor and Muslim Afghanistan, at #28.
The developed world and much of the developing world are below replacement. Here’s how fertility rates break down for the largest 14 countries, ie those with over 100 million people:
1. China 1.635
2. India 2.303
3. USA 1.886
4. Indonesia 2.32
5. Pakistan 3.377
6. Brazil 1.705
7. Nigeria 5.417
8. Bangladesh 2.067
9. Russia 1.751
10. Mexico 2.136
11. Japan 1.478
12. Ethiopia 4.025
13. Philippines 2.882
14. Egypt 3.155
These countries contain about 60% of Earth’s people.
Much of Europe and developed Asia are going out of the baby business. Here are the least fertile ten countries:
181 Macau 1.347
182 Cyprus 1.337
183 Hong Kong 1.326
184 South Korea 1.323
185 Greece 1.302
186 Poland 1.29
187 Singapore 1.26
188 Portugal 1.241
189 Moldova 1.23
190 Taiwan 1.218
Educating girls and empowering women help, but demographic transition requires increasing infant survival rates, so that parents don’t need seven kids to ensure that two will reach maturity to care for them. Thus the solution to economically and environmentally unsustainable population growth is to improve people’s lives, which requires fossil fuels and products made from and with hydrocarbons.
Education of Muslim girls in India:
https://www.telegraphindia.com/opinion/drop-in-fertility-rate-among-indian-muslims-and-the-impact-of-girls-education/cid/1691530
This “debate” (there wasn’t any debate) is somewhat like a redo of “A Clockwork Orange”:
https://youtu.be/ZvK9PEcqiLo
Harris believes that the president has the power to get rid of the fillibuster?????
Nothing presidential in that lot nor anything journalistic in CNN.
So much trash to take out, where to start?
Biden is correct when he says that 85% of the problem is the rest of the world. But even if the USA eliminated all its CO2 emissions, it wouldn’t make much difference, because energy-consuming industries would simply move to China and India (for cheaper energy), taking good jobs with them.
Even if Harris did eliminate the filibuster (with a Democrat Senate majority) it wouldn’t get the Green New Deal passed. Obama tried to pass a CO2 cap-and-trade bill in 2010 when Democrats had 60 Senators, but enough coal-state Democrats voted against it that it didn’t even get 50 votes in the Senate. In today’s Senate, Manchin (D-WV), Casey (D-PA), Brown (D-OH), Warner (D-VA) and Tester (D-MT) would most likely vote against the Green New Deal, as well as all the Republicans.
Sanders’ “Duh” pretty much sums up his answer to many questions, insulting the intelligence of his audience. Light bulbs only use a small fraction of the electricity consumed by the average home, with air conditioning, electric stoves, and clothes dryers using the lion’s share. Relaxing the requirements on light bulbs won’t increase consumption very much, because the new LED bulbs available in most areas of the country produce more light for less energy consumption (and also last longer) than the old incandescent (Thomas Edison) bulbs, so consumers tend to prefer them. Let the free market decide!
Robert Francis O’Rourke wants to re-enter the Paris accord, which imposed strict requirements on North America and Europe, and no restrictions on the largest CO2 emitters, China and India. Besides, the USA has reduced its CO2 emissions more than any other nation, largely due to replacing electricity from coal-fired plants by natural-gas-fired plants (which emit about half the CO2 per megawatt as coal-fired plants). This is due to the increased natural gas production from fracking, which the Democrats want to restrict. Duh?
Amy Klobuchar’s wanting to ban coal-fired power plants won’t go over well in states that have many of them, and trying to get rid of all fossil-fuels (including natural gas and oil) would leave a huge energy gap, to be filled by what? Even if vehicles with gasoline or Diesel engines were replaced by electric vehicles, where does the electricity come from to charge them? Electric vehicles do not reduce CO2 emissions, they just move them from the vehicle to the nearest power plant, unless it’s a nuclear reactor. Good luck trying to recharge your electric car at night using solar panels!
What would Mayor Pete Butt-jig, born during Reagan’s presidency, know about World War II? Then, we fought against two powerful enemies (Germany and Japan) armed with thousands of tanks and planes and other weapons. Now Mayor Pete says it’s harder to fight against a harmless gas (CO2) which constitutes one molecule out of every 2,500 molecules in the air? Actually, the best “solution” is probably to do nothing, since the extra CO2 in the air speeds up plant growth and increases crop yields, and doing nothing is a LOT easier than fighting World War II.
Steve Z, good comments, but I wonder how you had the stomach to even listen to such bovine-excrement. You couldn’t pay me to do it….
I read the transcripts, can not stand to listen to their whinny, hate-filled voices. What sad excuses for human beings.
“This is the hardest thing we will have done — certainly in my lifetime. This is on par with winning World War II. Perhaps, even more challenging than that,” Mayor Peter Bugiegieg told CNN’s Chris Cuomo.
The analogy should be carried forward, noting how many lives will be lost as a result of not having an adequate energy supply … as compared to how many lives were lost during WW2.
(… then force these idiots into actually saying out loud that increased trace CO2 will lead to millions, no billions, of deaths, rather than insinuating it with the meaningless and subjective “existential threat” language.)
And there I thought that Insane Clown Posse was a rap band. Silly me. Cheers –
I didn’t have any time to give them. However, while I was listening to a music station while driving my car, the DJ in between tunes said that he had watched some of it:
“Oh my, its worse than we thought! Those people are completely bat %$#@ur momisugly crazy!”
There is nothing that Democrats do or say anymore that appears even “vaguely” sane.
It leaves me speechless, without words to describe it
Ban plastic straws? Capitalism to the rescue- the pasta straw http://www.pastastraw.com/
What the democrats really need are candidates who believe that improving the national and world economies is a good approach to helping to solve our problems. Many voters may not think kindly of the idea of shafting the economy and putting most voter’s lives at risk.
If they really want to reduce CO2 emissions, than nuclear power is the only rational alternative that can currently meet our energy needs but they are against nuclear power as well. 200 years ago and before. mankind did not make use of fossil fuels but the climate was still changing. The older, fossil fuel free technology will not support the Earth’s current human population so turning back the technology clock will mean that a large part of our current population will not be able to survive. I know that in my neighborhood, if fossil fuels were suddenly banned, most of the population would have to move away or else starve to death. Some of the voters may not be very thrilled with that prospect.
Based on the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, one can conclude that the climate change that we have been experiencing is both small and is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. Despite the hype, there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and there is plenty of scientific rationale that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. This is all a matter of science. So the conclusion is that there is no climate change problem. Destroying the economy in order to reduce CO2 emissions will have very little effect on the over all radiant greenhouse effect caused by so called greenhouse gases and will have no effect on climate. But even if they could somehow stop the earth’s climate from changing, extreme weather events and sea level rise would continue because they are part of the current climate so there is no payoff. We do not even know what the optimum global climate actually is let alone how to achieve it. Committing economic suicide is not going to help anyone and will have no effect on the Earth’s climate..
What does banning plastic straws have to do with climate change?
Dave in Alabama September 6, 2019 at 8:19 am
Parry? No.
William Blake!
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Don’t be silly, Dave in Alabama!
https://www.google.com/search?q=jerusalem+lyrics+hubert+parry&oq=JerusalemTEXT+Hubert+Parry&aqs=chrome.
The CNN rebranding forum solidified that the Democrat Party is dead . The party shown in the 7 hour soft ball game was in fact the coming out event for the Green party USA .
If red eyed Biden gets in it will be as a wooden figurehead with a string attached to his back .
Bernie is a ranting communist who apparently would like to assist the women of Africa abort more babies .
Bernie seems to have a low tolerance for baby noise especially . He just can’t help himself .
Warren hmm a fake Indian claiming to be a capitalist . Well that finishes her .
So who’s floating down river on a great big bag of cash … the guy that has been pulling stings Steyer .
It’s the Green Party folks and they will lie , cheat and do absolutely nothing for the American public
until they get power. Then the real fun begins .