Guest “never go full retard” by David Middleton
Robert Downey Jr. got an Oscar nomination for inventing this phrase…
And Jeffrey Sachs clearly went there in this CNN article…
Trump’s failure to fight climate change is a crime against humanity
By Jeffrey Sachs
Updated 12:33 PM ET, Mon August 19, 2019(CNN) President Donald Trump, Florida Gov. Rick Scott, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, and others who oppose action to address human-induced climate change should be held accountable for climate crimes against humanity. They are the authors and agents of systematic policies that deny basic human rights to their own citizens and people around the world, including the rights to life, health, and property. These politicians have blood on their hands, and the death toll continues to rise.
Trump remains in willful denial of the thousands of deaths caused by his government’s inept, under-funded, and under-motivated response to Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico in 2017.
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Two independent, detailed epidemiological studies, using different methodologies — one led by researchers at Harvard University and the other by researchers at George Washington University— have estimated that thousands died in the aftermath of Maria.
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The first job of government is to protect the public. Real protection requires climate action on several fronts: educating the public about the growing dire risks of human-induced climate change; enacting legislation and regulations to ensure that families and businesses are kept out of harm’s way, for example by stopping construction in flood plains, and investing in sustainable infrastructure to counteract rising sea levels; anticipating the rising frequency of high-intensity climate-related disasters through science-based preparedness following through on properly scaled disaster-response during and after storm events; and most importantly for the future, spearheading the rapid transition to zero-carbon energy to prevent much greater calamities in the years ahead.
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Recent scientific studies underscore the dire emergency ahead. Professor James Hansen, one of the world’s leading climatologists, has demonstrated that the Earth’s climate has moved above the temperature range that supported the entire 10,000 years of civilization. The risks of catastrophic sea level rise are upon us.
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Darth Vader: “This is CNN.”
So… President Trump is responsible for hurricanes? And for the thousands of deaths caused by academic epidemiological models? The President of the United States does not have the constitutional power to prevent the government of Puerto Rico from being incompetent. Maybe you should try reading the United States Constitution.
What’s that? You want to babble about climate change some more?
James Hansen, one of the world’s leading climatologists, has demonstrated that the Earth’s climate has moved above the temperature range that supported the entire 10,000 years of civilization.
I generated these plots a year ago. Things haven’t changed much since June 2018.
Hansen’s epic fail is even more epic using the more climate-relevant 5-yr averages…
Of course Hansen’s estimated Altithermal (Holocene Climatic Optimum) and Eemian are about 0.5 °C too low.
Here’s what the “the temperature range that supported the entire 10,000 years of civilization” looks like at a common resolution:
The red arrow, at 3,000 years BP, is approximately the end of the Holocene Climatic Optimum and the beginning of Neoglaciation.
This was the reality before Warmunism:
If the climate models are accurate (they aren’t), the warming that supposedly moved Earth’s temperature above the range “that supported the entire 10,000 years of civilization”, has barely lifted it above “The Ice Age Cometh”…
The risks of catastrophic sea level rise are upon us
The key features of Jevrejeva et al, 2014 (J14) are a falling sea level near the end of Holocene neoglaciation phase and then a steady, secular rise of about 1.9 mm/yr since 1860 as the Earth warmed up from the Little Ice Age.
The steady rise from the Little Ice Age is punctuated by a multi-decadal quasi-periodic fluctuation (a cycle to a geologist)…
If someone only looked at the data from the early 1990’s onward, they might be tempted to declare an acceleration in sea level rise. I don’t give a rat’s @$$ what Church & White wrote.
J14 is definitely an improvement relative to Jevrejeva et al., 2008 (J08); which failed to capture the falling sea level of the neoglaciation phase. However, we can use J08 to evaluate the risks of catastrophic sea level rise being upon us. If we apply an exponential function to J08 and extrapolate it to the end of this century, we get nearly 1 meter of sea level rise over the next 80 years.
However, this would require sea level rise to accelerate to over 20 mm/yr, about twice the rate of the Holocene Transgression.
Now that Marine Ice Cliff Instability has fallen flat on its face and given the total irrelevance of Meltwater Pulse 1a, there’s nothing short of an asteroid impact on the Antarctic Ice Sheet or massive volcanic eruption from below the ice sheet that could trigger this sort of sea level rise.
Besides, Jeffy… if the risks of catastrophic sea level rise were upon us, I seriously doubt that your favorite president would have bought a $15 million beachfront mansion.
Note
I initially starred out the “r” word for two reasons:
- In the unlikely event that Dr. Sachs reads this, he might pull a Bill McKibben.
- I didn’t want to hear any pompous preaching about the inappropriateness of the word in a WUWT post. It isn’t unprecedented.
But, there really isn’t a more appropriate word.
References
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Brock, J.C., M. Palaseanu-Lovejoy, C.W. Wright, & A. Nayegandhi. (2008). “Patch-reef morphology as a proxy for Holocene sea-level variability, Northern Florida Keys, USA”. Coral Reefs. 27. 555-568. 10.1007/s00338-008-0370-y.
Grosjean, Martin, Suter, Peter, Trachsel, Mathias & Wanner, Heinz. (2007). “Ice‐borne prehistoric finds in the Swiss Alps reflect Holocene glacier fluctuations”. Journal of Quaternary Science. 22. 203 – 207. 10.1002/jqs.1111.
Hansen, J., I. Fung, A. Lacis, D. Rind, S. Lebedeff, R. Ruedy, G. Russell, and P. Stone, 1988: Global climate changes as forecast by Goddard Institute for Space Studies three-dimensional model.J. Geophys. Res., 93, 9341-9364, doi:10.1029/JD093iD08p09341
Jevrejeva, S., J. C. Moore, A. Grinsted, and P. L. Woodworth (2008). n “Recent global sea level acceleration started over 200 years ago?”. Geophys. Res. Lett., 35, L08715, doi:10.1029/2008GL033611.:
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The ice age is coming, the sun’s zooming in
The ice age is coming, the sun’s zooming in
— The Clash “London Calling,” released in 1979
Engines stop running, the wheat is growing thin
A nuclear era, but I have no fear
’Cause London is drowning, and I live by the river
‘The first job of government is to protect the public.’ sez Sachs.
The first imperative of Government is to promote the General Welfare, not the private losses of Wall Street firms with bailouts. Glass-Steagall bank seperation codifies that constitutional clause and will be re-instated. The Sachs of this world can keep their losses. Let them go green – no federal protection on bankrupcy.
‘The first job of government is to protect the public.’ sez Sachs.
The first imperative of Government is to promote the General Welfare, not the private losses of Wall Street firms with bailouts. Glass-Steagall bank seperation codifies that constitutional clause and will be re-instated. The Sachs of this world can eat their losses – let them go green – no federal protection on bankrupcy.
“The risks of catastrophic sea level rise are upon us.”
I’d love to know what catastrophic sea level rise is. Is civilization going to drown because our children’s, children’s, children cant choose to live a bit further back from it? Or plant their crops further back in a warmer wetter world?
Is it catastrophic that some coastal structures might be lost in the far distant future by human lifetime standards? Like almost every structure ever built has been lost over the millennia.
I think the best irony missed by all the alarmists is that tree ring proxies imply greater growth in a warmer world. And that’s supposed to be an indication of a worse world.
Pompous or not (not in this case), I still don’t care for the “r” word being used.
I can’t stand snowflakism, and I use profanities more than I probably should. I just don’t like comparing a disability (that these innocent people never asked for) to willful ignorance and deception.
Those who are truly “retarded” are worthy of our respect and care, unlike the climate change cabal.
That is true… Maybe I should have titled the post “Jeffrey Sachs Willfully Goes Full Retard…”
You know, I was really nice about this. You can disagree and do whatever you want with the site, but being so dismissive of a legitimate and well delivered argument is out of character WUWT. In fact, the whole thing resembles of the behavior of extremist leftist sites. I don’t know about everybody else, but I’d like to choose a higher road than the people we’re fighting (and winning) against.
I’d like to keep referring people to the site. If you want people like me to continue doing so, I suggest you at least re-think the way you handled this.
Moving on.
renbutler,
We do not need controlled speech. The term “Retard” has not been used for mentally challenged people in many years. It is used in mechanical processes and is used as an insult to supposedly smart people when they act stupid. It is not used to describe a disability, anymore. You need to chill and let the English language be used.
Why should anyone care whether concern trolls, like you mr. butler, want to continue coming to this site or not? If you want to take your concern trolling elsewhere, please do so.
I object to your use of the word “snowflakism”. Real snowflakes, the kind that melt, are beautiful and each one-of-a-kind, and they add beauty to our world, plus are awesome to ski on and are deserving of our respect and care, unlike those who get upset at the drop of a hat.
Some used to see the face of God in catastrophic weather events. Now they see the fingerprints of climate change. Pity those of us who do not see. We are the deplorables.
Meh. Already been done. Dave Roberts of Grist Mag. in 2006 proposed “Nuremberg-style trials” for “climate deniers”. Of course, now they are cereal. Super-cereal.
[Grist Magazine’s staff writer David Roberts called for the Nuremberg-style trials for the “bastards” who were members of what he termed the global warming “denial industry.” Roberts wrote in the online publication on September 19, 2006, “When we’ve finally gotten serious about global warming, when the impacts are really hitting us and we’re in a full worldwide scramble to minimize the damage, we should have war crimes trials for these bastards — some sort of climate Nuremberg.” (http://gristmill.grist.org/print/2006/9/19/11408%5D
If someone can indulge in full retard mode speeches and get paid for it, then he’s vastly outnumbered by full retard listeners.
That’s precisely why climate hysteria is so hard to abate. It’s fueled by the only infinite achievable quantity, human stupidity.
Stupid needs stupid and you can’t fix stupid.
However at some point in time populations fight for survival. Which in climate wars might happen sooner than expected.
Stupid is more like a river that can be harnessed by some for money and power or sailed on by the really lightweights carrying advertising signs for smaller gains. There’s probably a good Mark Twain line that could be modified to capture the image of the mighty river of stupid.
From the article: “Two independent, detailed epidemiological studies, using different methodologies — one led by researchers at Harvard University and the other by researchers at George Washington University— have estimated that thousands died in the aftermath of Maria.”
Let’s see the autopsy reports and the death certificates.
The number of actual reported deaths due to Hurricane Maria was about 51, if I recall correctly.
Alarmists and anti-Trumpers using statistics to claim Trump is responsible for 3,000 deaths in Puerto Rico is the heighth of dishonesty. Which is to be expected from the Alarmists and the anti-Trumpers. They are totally dishonest. Never take what one of them says at face value. Dig a little deeper and you will probably find a completely different story, as in this situation.
Sachs is one of Jefferey Epstein’s cronies from his 10 year tenure at both the CFR and TlC.
Memberships which the press has studiously avoided mentioning for over 15 years even though it has always been public record.
He is in Epstein’s little black book.
https://archive.org/details/ProminentMembersOfTheCouncilOnForeignRelationsasOfJune30201364
“The first job of government is to protect the public.” It would be difficult to answer, but a critical question is how much government “de facto protection” is efficient and how much contributes to the welfare/pork barrel type state? Comparisons between FEMA, church, private entities, state and local government hurricane actions might be valuable, not that it would change much.
David
Your criticism of an economist getting into the climate promotion business is appropriate.
A few years ago, one of my addresses to the Committee for Monetary Research and Education covered climate and central banking. 13 minutes long.
The Fed is going to host a convention about climate, so it is getting into the promotion.
And by the way, that rock pick shows little wear.
After a good day in the field a geologist will say–“We broke a lot of rock today.”
If anyone has made a career of “full retard”, it’s Jeffrey Sachs.
Jeffrey Sachs is a very bright guy but perhaps a bit short in common sense. He was, after all, the one who thought it was possible to banish poverty with an algorithm.
“The first job of government is to protect the public. Real protection requires climate action on several fronts: educating the public about the growing dire risks of human-induced climate change;”
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It will that soon not be easy to refute the story of “terrible climate change”.
Anyone who fails a task today, or with a project can blame the “already onset of climate change”.
This will only end when everyone hearing that smiles tired because he has already heard this excuse 1x too often.
Sachs is responsible for the misery he inflicted upon poor African communities with his disastrous “aid” programs. How many died as a result? We’ll never know. The man has thrown so many stones he’s surrounded by glass shards. He’s truly despicable.
The bigger the mouth, the smaller the brain. When porkrind Rockers chaw their magic mushrooms, their Sorry Serenades of tinkle-and-bang redound like dishrags clogging drains.
I love the rock hammer for scale for the sea level curve.
That economist Jeffrey Sachs presided over the miserably failed US prescriptions for transitioning the post-Soviet economy into the free market should provide a warning about his insights into other complex issues. Like many intellectual carpetbaggers, he relies upon attention-grabbing polemic rather than demonstrated competence.
This growing season is so much cooler and shorter where I live I won’t get the peach crop I got last year! When somebody finally gets serious about global cooling, let me know! I believe my peach trees are a better indicator of what’s happening with the climate than all the supercomputer runs in the world!
Use of “full retard”:
The image I get is riding my 1942 BSA wm20. Retard the spark a little (using the handle bar lever) to start, then move to full advance to ride.
To stop go full retard, then operate valve lifter.
So full retard means to slow the engine, no progress and almost stop.
Most apposite to the discussion. ( I too would rather not have “retard” used as a word to describe fellow citizens born with some brain functions less functional than mine)
Which is exactly what the Green New Deal would do to our economy… It would actually be works. It wouldn’t be “almost stop”. It would be full stop.
And this shows the degree to which climate change has become a religion to these people. And citing James Hansen? That guy has made multiple wrong claims about what the climate will be.