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Herbert
July 28, 2019 6:16 pm

Science from Hollywood.
Seriously, why do mainstream scientists stay silent when youngsters are carrying placards “ The Last Generation”and “ Twelve years Left etc.”
Why do they not correct the “ prophetess in short pants”, Greta Thunberg?

Greg
Reply to  Herbert
July 28, 2019 11:58 pm

I don’t see youngsters or a “prophetess in short pants”, I see an aging Hollywood star. Maybe you are commenting on the wrong thread.

If you listen to what he said instead of posting a totally irrelevant, kneejerk response you may do better.

He does have a valid point about the destruction of nature and it being more important what crapping on about vehicule CO2 emissions. He does have a point about money could be better spent preserving nature than installing wind turbines and attempting CCS.

It is foolish to reject someone without at least listening to what they say. That is the biggest problem with the climate non-debate.

Hugs
Reply to  Greg
July 29, 2019 1:35 am

“valid point about the destruction of nature”

Come on. We’ve been listening to this same banal point all our lives.

He’s got money, so he should just shut his elite mouth.

Reply to  Greg
July 29, 2019 1:47 am

He talks too slow. It is painful.
And he speaks about the end of the world as if it is a looming probability, while footage of a dry lake bed habitat is rolled as if this is somehow something that people have caused.
This is propaganda, that is why.
He would have support from people who are climate skeptics if he did not preface his comments about real problems by paying lip service to global warming doomsday propaganda.
So why should anyone who is a rational realist pay any attention?
Mixing in a valid point with bogus ones makes it impossible to be taken seriously by serious people.

Robert W Turner
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 29, 2019 7:40 am

I watch most Youtube videos at 1.25 or 1.5 times speed.

Goldrider
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 29, 2019 9:05 am

“So why should anyone who is a rational realist pay any attention?”

We don’t. We make up our minds on the basis of actual, verifiable, reproducible evidence. We don’t for a minute waste our time on the ignorant, paid-for bloviations of washed-up actors, warbling scantily-clad “influencers,” psych and journalism profs, or any other unqualified persons. Their arguments are 100% emotional and hysterical given that empirical evidence is nonexistent for any of their claims. Goes for Prince Charles, too. This has become a doomsday cult.

Reply to  Greg
July 29, 2019 2:20 am

Greg

This is a guy who, by all accounts, owns ten aeroplanes, including at least one private jet.

According to him, he loves flying so much he spends more time doing that than driving a car.

I don’t think he’s sincere about anything, do you?

GregB
Reply to  HotScot
July 29, 2019 3:54 am

“Ford, 72, has a long range jet, a Citation Sovereign, a turboprop aircraft capable of operating on unimproved airstrips; and a de Havilland DHC-2 Beaver single engine bush plane.

He also has a 1929 Waco Taperwing open-top biplane, an Aviat Husky, which is a two-seat fabric-covered bush plane, and a Bell 407 helicopter.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2981991/I-fly-coast-cheeseburger-Harrison-Ford-s-passion-flying-seen-amass-huge-collection-vintage-modern-aircraft.html

TG McCoy
Reply to  GregB
July 29, 2019 9:06 am

When he starts collecting Conestogas and clipper ships-I’ll get back to you..

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  GregB
July 29, 2019 2:37 pm

GregB
And he is now 77. I wonder if he has bought any more rich-man’s toys in the last 5 years?

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Greg
July 29, 2019 3:46 am

i hear him, and yes stopping the ruination of the mangroves for harbour and massive logging where the woods not even used..would be smart
but its being tied into the warmist agenda utterly
and thats the problem
theres real pollution issues etc
but co2 isnt pollution
and while its all being tied in one fat bundle any one who doesnt want UN/EU dictatorship is smart to push back, regardless.
and maybe Harrison could do some talking to the people who keep undermining the sth american nations to keep them off balance and poor?
hello usa.

GregB
Reply to  Greg
July 29, 2019 3:52 am

“If you listen to what he said instead of posting a totally irrelevant, kneejerk response you may do better.”

30 seconds is enough, thank you, of this gullible old fool taken in by a popular narrative and overcome by magical thinking – and dreadful, melodramatic background music.

Herbert
Reply to  Greg
July 29, 2019 3:57 am

Greg,
I have seen and heard the video and Harrison’s fervent plea for nature and species etc.
No one is advocating the destruction of nature or species.
Yes, we need nature but seriously, “ Kick this Monster’s Ass !”
It is his complete lack of balance and his belief that the greatest problem facing mankind is climate change when that is false.
As Bjorn Lomborg, Nigel Lawson and others have so cogently said, poverty, malnutrition and disease are far more pressing problems for the developing countries.
It is also false to maintain the mantra that poor people will suffer most from global warming.
They will suffer most from the policies being inflicted on them in the name of saving the planet.
Thus my criticism of climate scientists, who stand silently by when Greta Thunberg promotes nonsense, and issues they ought know are dubious become accepted as fact by youngsters.

xenomoly
Reply to  Herbert
July 29, 2019 6:51 am

Pointing out that their schtick is propaganda threatens to undermine the whole house of cards on which the claims of catastrophe are built.

Karabar
July 28, 2019 6:16 pm

Why is it that morons gravitate to Pedowood?

MarkG
Reply to  Karabar
July 28, 2019 9:30 pm

It’s the easiest way for a moron to become a millionaire.

Fortunately, the last actors will soon be entirely replaced with CGI and this will no longer be an option.

Al Black
July 28, 2019 6:35 pm

Harrison Ford is a great actor: he almost made me believe that Global Warming was a problem for a moment there. Of course returning carbon to the carbon cycle is causing regrowth of forests and grasslands where there was once desert, there is evidence that Californian forest fires are caused more by poor forest management than by climate change, and that there has been no statistically significant rise in the number of, or intensity of Hurricanes on the East Coast either, but it makes a great story and he sells it well to those who know no better. One point he does make, that I agree with is that People need Nature. More needs to be done to preserve forests and wetlands from human agriculture and settlement. Unfortunately the false Climate Emergency hysteria is drawing attention and funds away from real, valid conservation efforts. That is the tragedy of this whole Climate Armagedon Fake News. So much effort fighting harmless CO2 that could have been channelled in solving real World problems.

John the Econ
Reply to  Al Black
July 28, 2019 9:01 pm

How many airplanes does he own?

Jones
Reply to  John the Econ
July 29, 2019 2:23 am

He also has a large family to taxi around so get off the poor guys back won’t you ???. Tsk!……

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7190227/amp/Harrison-Ford-boards-family-friends-18M-private-jet.html

Geo
Reply to  Jones
July 29, 2019 9:44 am

I see he also belongs to the David Letterman “Lets look crazy” cult.
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John the Econ
Reply to  Jones
July 30, 2019 11:08 am

Looks like he feels compelled to compete with Leo Di Caprio for the conspicuous consumption climate hypocrisy award.

Carbon Bigfoot
Reply to  John the Econ
July 31, 2019 4:34 am

I thought he lost his FAA certification for flying into the wrong runway–is he suffering from dementia?

Reply to  Al Black
July 29, 2019 1:53 am

Exactly Al.
Global warming hysteria, and the diversion of all available money and study towards a fake problem with no solution (as it is impossible to solve a non-existent problem), is a tragedy and a travesty.
Money is spent in enormous sums on endlessly repetitious and nonsensical ranting and raving.
There is no point is doing any study when the outcome is predetermined.
There are large scale and highly solvable problems that could easily and readily be addressed with a fraction of the resources being allocated towards climate crisis hysteria.

hiskorr
Reply to  Al Black
July 29, 2019 7:38 am

“People need Nature” is the most ridiculous statement in this whole comment string. People are a part of “Nature”. Nature is the most beautiful/terrible thing in existence. It is the difference between stasis and change. Floods, droughts, tornados, volcanos, earthquakes, meteors are a part of “Nature”, as are rain forests and rainbows, bees and bacteria, deserts and clouds. “Nature” has exterminated more life forms, flooded more land and dried up more lakes than puny man can conceive of. Our efforts to “protect” or “restore” “Nature” are of a kind with our intent to control “climate”. Nature will out. Time to watch Carlin again. At best, we can continue in our efforts to exist as a part of nature, maximizing its benefits to us as a species, and minimizing its threats.

ThomasJ
July 28, 2019 6:51 pm

O boy, what a moron ^10 !

July 28, 2019 6:56 pm

The real Extinction is your way of life under Sharia Law. Islam is a greater danger to Mankind than any Climate Change Protocol. You are dead either way but sooner by the Religion of Death. You may not be able to prevent either one. Europe is already gone, and only the First and Second Amendments in America can give us any hope. Put your Rebellion energy into planting greenery. Plants love CO2.

Richard
Reply to  Stanny1
July 28, 2019 8:30 pm

Little off topic there, sonny, but hey, if you are obsessed with something, ignore the fact this is a science blog, and head off on your favourite tangent. We can then choose to either ignore or ridicule you. It’s a free country (sort of).

John from EU
Reply to  Richard
July 28, 2019 9:28 pm

Stanny1 has a point, but it is not the right place to discus that here.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  John from EU
July 29, 2019 4:08 am

Stanny1’s posted comment was not only appropriate and justified, but was a critically important response to an actual, factual emergency situations (forced encroachment of Islamic/Sharia Law that will destroy the democratic Rule of Law) …….. as compared to a highly improbable CAGW disaster occurring 200/300 years in the future.

Islamic conquest is a serious problem today, ……. increasing atmospheric CO2 and Global Warming will not be a problem tomorrow, next year or 50 years from now.

MarkW
Reply to  Richard
July 29, 2019 7:02 am

This is a science blog but we end up discussing pretty much whatever the readers are interested in.

David Guy-Johnson
Reply to  Stanny1
July 28, 2019 9:36 pm

Stanny, I’m sure you’re a nice man really, but posts like that tend to make the rest of think that you are a complete and utter idiot.

July 28, 2019 6:56 pm

Houston, we’ve had a problem; and it’s in Hollywood. We’re working on it but got any ideas?

Fanakapan
July 28, 2019 7:00 pm

Another guy with the exit ramp in sight and who would like to have influence from beyond the grave ? Or a seriously concerned and decent man? You decide as Mr Randi used to say 🙂

Geoff Sherrington
July 28, 2019 7:06 pm

Why do such science-ignorant people, these actors, think that they have any part to play in this?
It is fraudulent misrepresentation by Ford. It would also be misrepresentation if he started into medical advice rather than science advice. Only the disciplines differ. Should be punishable by law. Geoff S

Rob_Dawg
July 28, 2019 7:07 pm

Here’s a slide show of Harrison Ford’s fleets of vehicles:

https://successstory.com/people/photos/auto/harrison-ford

Reply to  Rob_Dawg
July 29, 2019 1:56 am

Well, to be fair, only one of his massive fleet of aircraft is a jet, so…

Don Andersen
July 28, 2019 7:07 pm

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Michael H Anderson
July 28, 2019 7:08 pm

I used to like Harrison Ford. Now I see him for what he is: a classic Hollywood narcissist, assuaging his guilt over his spectacular wealth by abetting the work of terrorists – just like in “State of Fear,” the very book that uber-hypocrite Albert Gore sneered at.

FOAD, Harry. Hope you still enjoy flying your private jet, dirtball.

n.n
July 28, 2019 7:12 pm

A celebrity endorsement of Planned Carbon? What ever happened to the end is Nye?

iain russell
Reply to  n.n
July 28, 2019 8:17 pm

Double plus good!

Travis T. Jones
July 28, 2019 7:21 pm

For once I must concur with the Terminator …

Schwarzenegger to CNN’s Axelrod: Environmentalists doing a terrible job selling climate change concerns

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/414752-schwarzenegger-to-cnns-axelrod-environmentalists-doing-a-terrible-job-selling

More left turns than a Daytona 500.

markl
July 28, 2019 7:22 pm

Just another useful idiot. And they are good at finding useful idiots with name recognition although Hollywood is like shooting ducks in a barrel.

July 28, 2019 7:37 pm

That not Harrison Ford … It’s Gandalf.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Thomas
July 31, 2019 6:43 am

Gandalf would never say anything that stupid.

Michael H Anderson
July 28, 2019 7:40 pm

This will probably get deleted on Youtube, so here we go:

By golly, Deckard really IS a replicant!

Thank you, and please don’t forget the tip jar. Hope Harry still enjoys piloting his private jet and other 9 aircraft. Guess *saving the planet* staves off some of the guilt. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7190227/amp/Harrison-Ford-boards-family-friends-18M-private-jet.html

Len Werner
July 28, 2019 7:43 pm

I enjoyed Harrison Ford’s acting; being a pilot and aircraft owner, and one who has spent a LOT of time as a passenger in northern Canada in a DeHavilland Beaver I envied Ford’s ability to own one of his own–until I saw him land one on a taxi-way at John Wayne Airport and nearly hit an airliner. He recognized himself as a ‘schmuck’ at the time.

Well Harrison, you’re as much of a schmuck at this. Stick to acting and keep your mouth shut about things you don’t understand. I’ve landed at busy American airports too, and never on a taxi-way and never endangering an airliner.

You gain my respect only when you exceed my ability.

Alan Robertson
July 28, 2019 7:48 pm

Harrison Ford cares. He really cares.
Are you equally impressed that Harrison Ford cares?

Hugs
Reply to  Alan Robertson
July 29, 2019 5:23 am

He is a professional actor in action so I have difficulties to believe he really cares.

TG
July 28, 2019 7:48 pm

I don’t know maybe fight fire with fire? Find some celebs that don’t buy into the hysteria? Are there no billionaires that could help with a media campaign with information to correct some of the fake news and “chicken little” stories?
I’m not a scientist and reading even the headlines of some of the msm articles make me cringe, especially after having found this website. I’ve been a follower here for a couple three years now and the things discussed here resonate so much better than anywhere else I’ve looked to see what’s going on in our world of climate. I appreciate everyone’s contributions and try to tell as many people as possible about this site if they want to learn about what’s really going on. The attacks on “skeptics” seems to be intensifying, and everyone is buying into it as usual. Seems most of the articles on here are just preaching to the choir. And I don’t mean that to be negative, but for every article put out by the lefties, one needs to be put out to counter it..

xenomoly
Reply to  TG
July 29, 2019 6:56 am

Appeals to fear work more effectively than appeals to logic.

MarkW
Reply to  TG
July 29, 2019 7:04 am

They’d have to be retired.
Coming out against the green mob is a career killer in Hollywood.

Michael H Anderson
Reply to  TG
July 29, 2019 10:28 am

For a celebrity to come out as a “denialist” would be a career death sentence. Good luck with that one.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Michael H Anderson
July 31, 2019 6:45 am

Tim Allen, all the Hillary jokes got his show cancelled.

4 Eyes
July 28, 2019 7:55 pm

Useful idiot

Al Miller
July 28, 2019 7:57 pm

Same comment for Arnold and washed up musicians in general. Yes I enjoyed your entertainment- no I don’t believe you have a clue about CO2. What I find deliciously ironic is when some true believer states that Mr. Happer for instance is not a “climate scientist “. Yeah he’s only a physicist, hardly a match for the likes of Greta, Harrison, Leonardo, Bill Nye, and Al Gore who collectively have lots of charm and little brains rattling around. A perfect Segway to Canada’s warmunist PM, but I digress.

Michael H Anderson
Reply to  Al Miller
July 28, 2019 8:32 pm

Here’s a scary thought: our beloved Justin is still young, and the Goreacle is getting a bit long in the tooth. Might be that when he’s turfed out of Ottawa he’s hoping to take his place at the Reichsministerium für Wetterkontrolle. The thought of the swagger stick across the backs of Denialists and other undesirables must be quite exciting.

Oh noes, did I just conflate Nazis with warmunists? Heaven forbid I should use their own tactics against them! 😉

July 28, 2019 8:07 pm

Entertainers, especially faded stars, get more gigs if they have a “cause” for advertising that they are still around. Their agents recommend this stuff as good public exposure and they can get a couple of hundred grand for showing their faces at virtue-events.
It’s actually kind of bizarre that the public would put any creedence in what these non-technical and non-experts have to say.

July 28, 2019 8:31 pm

Hairy Ford…

Wasn’t he the guy who lined up and landed on the Taxiway of a major airport?
No confusion in his mind, I guess.. And that was years ago. He’s better now.

July 28, 2019 8:57 pm

”I’m just a so so actor. Nothing I do from now on will amount to much. What can I do to make people love me, give me respect and make me feel important? What simplistic, cockamamie story can I come up with to get people cheering and clapping at me?? Hmm……

Clyde Spencer
July 28, 2019 8:58 pm

I believe his heart is in the right place. However, I’m not sure about his head. Why is it that Hollywood entertainers think that they have a special insight on the state of the world and science when their primary demonstrated stills are the ability to memorize a script and deliver it convincingly?

Here is a man who majored in philosophy in college, tried his hand at acting, and had to teach himself carpentry to support his wife and children, before lucking into one of the most successful movie series in history. What does he know about science?

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