UN Climate Rant: “political will seems to be fading”

António Guterres
UN Secretary General António Guterres. By DFID – UK Department for International Development – https://www.flickr.com/photos/dfid/30720847110/, CC BY-SA 2.0, Link

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

According to Al Jazeera, in a speech in New Zealand the UN Secretary General scolded the entire world for not doing enough about climate change.

UN chief: Climate change ‘running faster than we are’

Countries failing to live up to commitments under the 2016 Paris agreement to keep global temperature rise at bay.

UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said the political will to fight climate change has faded at the same time as it is getting worse for those feeling its effects.

Guterres made the comments after arriving in New Zealand on Sunday where addressed the media alongside Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern in Auckland. Guterres plans to spend three days there as part of a trip to the South Pacific to highlight climate change’s global threat.

“Climate change is running faster than what we are … The last four years have been the hottest registered,” Guterres said.

Countries are not living up to their commitments under the 2016 Paris Agreement to keep the global temperature rise to below two degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels, he said.

We are not on track to achieve the objectives defined in the Paris Agreement, and the paradox is that as things are getting worse on the ground, political will seems to be fading,” he added.

Read more: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/05/chief-climate-change-running-faster-190512164354212.html

No doubt UN Secretary General Guterres used an ecologically friendly means to travel to New Zealand to deliver his speech.

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Robert of Texas
May 12, 2019 8:18 pm

Yep, it’s worse than we thought. “Send more money, we’ll make up more stuff!”

Maybe, just maybe, people are catching on that U.N. driven catastrophic AGW is a SCAM. Built on top of lots and lots of bad science. Try telling the truth next time – oh wait…we are talking politics here, never mind.

Greg
Reply to  Robert of Texas
May 12, 2019 9:25 pm

We are not on track to achieve the objectives defined in the Paris Agreement

No, the main objective of setting up a $100bn Green Slush Fund to finance a new world government seems to proving difficult to fulfill. Good to see General Guterres is on the job.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Greg
May 12, 2019 9:52 pm

No one knows if the Paris Accords’ goal of not exceeding 2C above LIA temperatures is on track or not. The metric they use in predicting future temperatures is CO2 in UN IPCC climate models. Since the models run hot, China, India, Africa, etc. could burn up all the coal in the world and we still might not exceed the magical 2C. Since the 2C is a made up number anyway (by some economist, no less), who cares if it is exceeded or not?

Martin A
Reply to  Dave Fair
May 12, 2019 10:37 pm

Dave Fair. +++

Newminster
Reply to  Dave Fair
May 13, 2019 12:56 am

Actually the 2° was made up by Schellnburger when he was boss man at Potsdam. See here … https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/climate-catastrophe-a-superstorm-for-global-warming-research-a-686697-8.html. Scroll down to ‘Clearly a Political Goal‘.

The idea was to give the politicians a nice easily remembered figure — like 5-a-day or 21 units a week, etc. Something their little minds could keep hold of!

JR
Reply to  Newminster
May 13, 2019 5:52 am

Newminster

My favorite part: “We climatologists can only describe possible futures,” Storch points out. “It’s also possible that things will be completely different.”

Hellllloooooooo Precautionary Principle.

MarkW
Reply to  Newminster
May 13, 2019 6:26 am

It was then dropped to 1.5C when it started to look like the world wouldn’t warm up by 2C.

Greg
Reply to  Newminster
May 13, 2019 6:39 am

Interesting, I’d read that it was Phil Jones et al and they had decided that since there had already been about 1 degree rise without any dramatic changes, it would probably be safe to assume another degree would be OK. Beyond that we really don’t know. ( NB not the world falls apart at 2 deg. ).

I suppose everyone wants their claim to be the author of such globally recognised myths.

john harmsworth
Reply to  Newminster
May 13, 2019 9:53 am

Fits nicely into a command economy. Brainless, like saying we will produce 100,000 tractors. Regardless of demand or quality or other detriments to the economy and living standards. It’s measurable! That’s what matters!

GregB
Reply to  Dave Fair
May 14, 2019 8:56 am

2 degrees from what base? The term ‘pre-industrial levels’ is so vague as to be meaningless. The idea of claiming to measure the global average temperature to 0.1 degrees from a set of unknown starting points is ridiculous. How many pre-industrial levels are there? Who picks the one from which 2 degrees is measured? What is that actual number?

Sam
Reply to  Greg
May 12, 2019 10:14 pm

At the same speech he also said this:

“First, shift taxes from salaries to carbon.”

So if we ever needed proof of the real objective, here it is.

Goldrider
Reply to  Robert of Texas
May 13, 2019 9:09 am

Still waiting to “feel the effects.” It’s 41 degrees here today and may snow in Portland, ME tonight. Please, send some of that “warming” my way, we could use it!

William Astley
Reply to  Robert of Texas
May 13, 2019 10:07 am

What is going to get more votes? What is going to increase GDP?

The idiots do not understand spending is limited by GDP. GDP increases more money to spend. Do stupid things that shut down the economy, less money to spend.

More money for health care, schools, roads, job training, student loans, and so on or forced spending of billions of dollars per year for green scams.

Cost benefit analysis for green scams assuming there is no CAGW? Zero.

There is no real progress or end point in spending the billions of dollars on green stuff. The EU are advocating spending 25% of their budge on the ‘green’ stuff.

Dave Fair
May 12, 2019 8:25 pm

“UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said the political will to fight climate change has faded at the same time as it is getting worse for those feeling its effects.”

What, exactly, are those worsening effects of climate change? Who, exactly, is feeling the worsening effects of climate change? A little bit of warming out of the Little Ice Age does not make a worsening climate. No climate metric has worsened to the detriment of man.

Editor
Reply to  Dave Fair
May 13, 2019 12:33 am

What, exactly, are those worsening effects of climate change?“.
People are getting more and more alarming news every day on their TV and in their newspapers and via their social media. There’s absolutely no doubt – it’s getting worse.
If the politicians did what they were told and sent the money that has been demanded, then it might buy them more cheerful news.
In some societies, that’s called blackmail.

Climate is actually at a tipping point right now. There is a serious risk that the “global temperature” could start to fall again before there has been enough “climate action” to explain it. You see, the plan has always been to be able to say, when the temperature inevitably starts falling again, that “they” are the ones that saved the world.

Bryan A
Reply to  Dave Fair
May 13, 2019 12:36 am

Well obviously…anyone who has been involved in a Flood has experienced the worsening effects…
Well obviously…anyone who has been involved in a Hurricane has experienced the worsening effects…
Well obviously…anyone who has been involved in a drought has experienced the worsening effects…
Well obviously…anyone who has been involved in colder than average temps has experienced the worsening effects…
Well obviously…anyone who has been involved in warmer than average temps has experienced the worsening effects…
Well obviously…anyone who has been involved in the democratic party has experienced the worsening effects…
Well obviously…anyone who has been involved in climate hysteria has experienced the worsening effects…

Petit_Barde
Reply to  Dave Fair
May 13, 2019 2:11 am

“Who, exactly, is feeling the worsening effects of climate change?”

For example, Greta Thunberg, who can see CO2, is more and more blinded by it.

F1nn
Reply to  Petit_Barde
May 13, 2019 4:25 am

Yes, Greta of course, sad story. But he said -those-. Anyone?

Larry Hamlin
May 12, 2019 8:53 pm

Hopefully this is the start of good riddance to the politically contrived idiocy of the U.N. climate alarmism propaganda campaign.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Larry Hamlin
May 12, 2019 9:08 pm

No, Larry. The UN IPCC has already put us on notice that the upcoming CMIP6 climate models to be used in AR6 will run hotter than the CMIP5 models.

Additionally, reading the tea leaves, I believe AR6 will abandon the past IPCC acknowledgment that no climate metric has worsened over at least the past 100 years. SR15 is a good indication that the IPCC will throw caution to the winds in a last-ditch effort to get worldwide socialism instituted through climate laws. The spate of junk science publications over the past few years will bolster their claims in AR6.

Loydo
Reply to  Dave Fair
May 12, 2019 11:12 pm

“IPCC will throw caution to the winds in a last-ditch effort to get worldwide socialism instituted…”

I know this is supposed to be a far-right political blog but that’s a bit alarmist isn’t it?

Bryan A
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 12:41 am

Anyone with half a brain realizes climate change is real, human induced, and will bring catastrophes and destroy the Earth in 12 years.
Anyone with a whole brain realizes the warming since the nadir of the LIA has been beneficial regardless of how much or how little effect man’s meager contribution to ambient CO2 levels actually is

Loydo
Reply to  Bryan A
May 13, 2019 1:13 am

“how much or how little effect man’s meager contribution to ambient CO2 levels actually is”

What, you haven’t even checked?

MarkW
Reply to  Bryan A
May 13, 2019 6:29 am

You can tell that Loydo hasn’t received his pay check recently, he’s just mailing it in now.

Bryan A
Reply to  Bryan A
May 13, 2019 2:05 pm

In-significant Lloyd, In-significant

Gwan
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 1:02 am

Loydo
How do you define “a far right political blog”
The majority of bloggers here could be of any political persuasion but 95 percent have enough common sense to see through the propaganda that the IPCC spews out .
It really is quite simple if the advocates for reducing fossil fuel use were genuine they would be pushing to replace coal and gas power generation with nuclear .
Why don’t they ?
If the countries of the world try to achieve these reductions demanded by the UN widespread economic turmoil will erupt and millions will be forced into poverty throughout the developed world ( which is probably their aim )
Why don’t they?
Because they want to end capitalism and socialize the world because they think they know best .
Global warming and climate change has always been pushed with that ulterior motive.

PeterGB
Reply to  Gwan
May 13, 2019 3:26 am

You are so right, Gwan. Were this a “a far right political blog” I wouldn’t be here. My political persuasion remains unchanged after 45 years. Individual freedom and rights, to own and transact property, within a fair and humane justice system. Everything government does it does badly, wastefully and inefficiently and the more power it has the more corrupt its participants become. Therefore small is best, reduce the state to the minimum size required to fulfil its basic duties to its citizens. The UN, EU and other such are just attempts to foist the world socialist order on an unwitting populace.

If that makes me “far right” I guess the previous comment might be correct, from what I have read in the relatively short time I have been on WUWT the majority here have similar views. But the only reason for that is that during my lifetime, due to the success of the Long March through the Institutions, the Overton Window has moved so far to the left that perfectly reasonable people are now referred to as xenophobic, knuckle-dragging, reactionary extreme right populists (a word which BBC newsreaders ALWAYS precede with some sort of defamatory term of statement). Populism is just democracy in glorious action, get over it.
/rant

MarkW
Reply to  Gwan
May 13, 2019 6:29 am

We don’t ban anti-socialist comments. That makes this a far-right blog.

HotScot
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 1:06 am

Loydo

It seems you don’t know enough to even read the ‘About’ on this blog.

It’s a scientific blog and nothing to do with politics. There are people on here from across the political spectrum with one thing in common, an interest in science.

Clearly, you and UN Secretary General Guterres haven’t a clue what science is.

R Shearer
Reply to  HotScot
May 13, 2019 5:31 am

Politics are overarching to all aspects of the debate from supporting the science in the first place to what to do about it thereafter. Science matters of course, but it is the impact of politics that crushes us, lifts us up or leaves us alone.

Politically, I think many of us who visit this site would rather be left alone.

sunderlandsteve
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 2:20 am

The fact that you think this blog is A) far right, and B) political speaks volumes for how far left your own views must be!

Ron Long
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 3:26 am

Loydo, don’t let this ruin your day, but AOC, your self-avowed socialist, just stated that the “we have 12 years left to fix climate change” comment was just a figure of speech. This is not a political blog, but it is amazing how the issue of CAGW is itself political and not scientific.

Reply to  Ron Long
May 13, 2019 11:46 pm

….. “just a figure of speech…” ????

What would you describe that as if Trump backed out of an earlier statement like that??
Her handlers must have accidentally let her go off-script for the first comment.

See my link…

MarkW
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 6:28 am

I love it how the acolytes define anything to the right of socialism as being “far-right”.

Regardless, unlike you, we take your leaders at their words. They have stated over and over again that over throwing capitalism has always been their goal.

Joel Snider
Reply to  MarkW
May 13, 2019 9:57 am

Yeah, I’m personally amazed at how I became ‘far-right’ – basically after Obama jerked the Left into Stalin-ville.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 9:32 am

I know hyper-left Progressives hacks try to portray this a ‘far-right political blog’, and they show up here all the time and prove it.

He even uses the Alinsky-method of trying to turn it around with his ‘alarmist’ remark.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 9:55 am

Loydo, have you read any of the reports/documents produced by the UN IPCC? Without fail they advocate socialist remedies for any and all of their supposed climate catastrophes.

And, if you think I’m far right, that would surprise my family.

Bryan A
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 2:23 pm

WUWT is only a “Far Right Blog” when viewed by someone who is so far left they can see it over their Left Shoulder

David
Reply to  Bryan A
May 14, 2019 11:22 am

Maybe he has two left shoulders? That way he can’t be right-wing to protect himself from our evil tyranny of letting him think for himself?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Larry Hamlin
May 12, 2019 9:29 pm

Not at all. He deliberately chose NZ because of the recent announcements by Adern to, effectively, destroy their economy. Peter Jackson won’t be making any more films there. What happens in Australia this w/e is also important for the sc@m to advance.

LdB
Reply to  Patrick MJD
May 12, 2019 11:38 pm

Nothing will change in Australia, the senate will be as fractured and broken as it is now and you won’t be able to get anything thru it that is too extreme.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  LdB
May 13, 2019 12:43 am

We will find out soon enough. I will get a few beers in and a large bag of popcorn and have a night in…nah, on second thoughts I have had enough of it already, got better things to do.

BoyfromTottenham
Reply to  Larry Hamlin
May 12, 2019 11:35 pm

Nah, they will just pivot to another noble cause. With global domination in their sights, there will be no shortage of causes and no lack of useful idiots to help, unless the sane ones start punishing the loonies.

LdB
Reply to  BoyfromTottenham
May 13, 2019 12:10 am

As long as there is a buck for the politicians to get there snout in they are interested in anything.

There is plenty of green and renewable money in brown paper bags kicking around but the poor pacific island nations are still trying to work out how to get some of it.

Reply to  Larry Hamlin
May 13, 2019 4:27 am

Larry H, it will only be the start of good riddance to the politically contrived idiocy of the U.N. climate alarmism propaganda campaign when the US, aka POTUS Trump, cuts off all US funding of the UN and starts charging them “rent” for use of the UN Headquarters’ building.

May 12, 2019 9:09 pm

UN Secretary General António Guterres is already in his canoe and paddling furiously toward New Zealand ,Aotearoa, the Land of the Long White Cloud.

Walter Sobchak
May 12, 2019 9:10 pm

Clearly the only environmentally sound method of inter-continental travel is by sailing vessels made out of sustainable organic materials, e.g. wood and canvas.

In the days of the Clipper Ships, Cutty Sark made the voyage from Plymouth to Sydney (~13,750 miles) in 72 days, although 100 days was more typical. Just imagine how much less damage UN officials could do if they did all of their travel by sailing.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Eric Worrall
May 12, 2019 9:54 pm

When becalmed, the crew could eat them.

James Schrumpf
Reply to  Dave Fair
May 13, 2019 12:07 pm

With a gamey leg!?

Newminster
Reply to  Eric Worrall
May 13, 2019 12:58 am

Perhaps that explains the Marie Celeste!

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Newminster
May 13, 2019 8:22 am

No, they were probbly gobbled by sea monsters. Or space aliens may have spirited them away.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
May 13, 2019 6:50 am

Just make sure they don’t have internet access during the trip.

Gary R
May 12, 2019 9:19 pm

Im too scared to turn on the TV News as it will be our main story tonight. Our NZ government and media will be just lapping it all up. I imagine they will also run some completely BS story about AGW. Point the finger and tell us how evil we all are. Oh lord please give us some decent news tonight please please please.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Gary R
May 13, 2019 3:56 pm

There won’t be. It will all be about Cindy and Macron and their socialist plans. Then back here to continue her destruction of our beloved country. I hang my head in shame when I admit I believed Winnie’s lies and voted for him. But never again!

Kenji
May 12, 2019 9:44 pm

The last four years have been the hottest registered

When my own personal experience on the planet doesn’t MATCH or resemble anything even close to the … *ahem* … official “scientific* record, then I become rather skeptical of the “science”. Don’t blame me … blame the propagandists disguised as “scientists”.

Loydo
Reply to  Kenji
May 12, 2019 10:54 pm

“When my own personal experience” doesn’t match the data, the data is wrong.

Uh huh. Thats how science should be done.

LdB
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 12:14 am

Wait there was science somewhere in Climate Science?

The science at the end is just because it’s a social/political science discipline start by looking at the qualifications of those claiming to be Climate Scientists.

Ken Irwin
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 12:31 am

Agreed – but it should at the very least give rise to doubt – that should push you towards checking out the “science” in a scientific manner.
That’s how I became a skeptic and ended up here.

Loydo
Reply to  Ken Irwin
May 13, 2019 1:46 am

Thats fair enough Ken, but skeptical of what? Any research you’d like to cite, the recent years are abruptly warmer.

F1nn
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 2:57 am

The reason for abruptly warmer years is in tortured past. Everything looks like very pure science.

When “science” cut very warm period away, everything is warmer. Every second is abruptly warmer. “Science” is making this planet warmer, because “science” is a political tool. UN is the operator and bottomless wallet to pay for “good” news.

There´s a big difference between science and “science”. I prefer science and it´s message, we are living in cooling world.

Think.

MarkW
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 6:40 am

Except the recent years aren’t abruptly warmer. There has been an extremely mild and well within the range of normal warming that started abit over 150 years ago, long before CO2 levels started rising.

Back in 2016 there was a brief spike, now fading that was caused by a large El Nino. Other than that spike, there has been no warming at all for more than 20 years.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 10:13 am

Have you heard of the recent Super El Nino, Loydo?

DonM
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 12:41 pm

Please define what you mean by “abruptly warmer”.

I am open to honest persuasion … persuade me.

(I am skeptical of advocates of significant change, whose reasoning includes terminology that is suspect, undefined & emotionally charged.)

Bryan A
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 2:12 pm

The other reason for “Abruptly Warmer” is in the simple fact that the near term is measured by satellites and better tech and reported in High Resolution measurements of hourly to daily while the vaunted past is measured in Proxy Data with resolutions of multiple decades to centuries and thereby incapable of resolving any short term spikes with any reasonable acuity.

Loydo
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 4:30 pm

DonM May 13, 2019 at 12:41 pm
Please define what you mean by “abruptly warmer”

Geologically abrupt.
0.2C per decade is rare. In the last 100,000 years only the Bølling-Allerød heating period and the steep climb out of the Younger Dryas are comparable (although these even more abrupt periods of warming were Northern Hemisphere only phenomenon). Globally, the abrupt warming of about 8C from glaciation to interglacial took about 2000 years – 5 times slower rate than the last 100 years.

Loads of interesting stuf here:
http://www.dandebat.dk/eng-klima5.htm

Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 5:28 pm

This afternoon is abruptly warmer than this morning (by 12 C).

mike the morlock
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 12:52 am

Loydo May 12, 2019 at 10:54 pm

Okay lets see we have had four years of early or late frosts and snow storms, reductions of berry fruit and grape harvest because of this. Thats your “data”
Growers in Europe are using oil fired pots to try and save your grape vines buds and fruit starts.
That is your data. Pay attention to what is actually happening in the world.
Do you know how much wine product has dropped each of the last four year from the previous year?
There is your data, not computer programs there half of the input temperatures are the figment of the imagination because there are no measuring devices for much of the planet’s surface.
So no thats not “data”.

And don’t continue carrying on, as you know so little. because you choose to.

michael

Loydo
Reply to  mike the morlock
May 13, 2019 1:24 am

Thats not “your data”, that’s just more anecdotal arm-waving. “Carry on”, lol.

F1nn
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 3:02 am

They are precise anecdotes to cooling world. Which are your anecdotes? Forged data perhaps?

Think.

Giles Bointon
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 5:22 am

The planet has seen a significant cooling in the last 3 years from the last El Niño. I think it is 0.5 degrees. That is science.
Most people on WUWT are happy to acknowledge that the earth is however, overall getting warmer mostly for natural reasons. If that is accepted then it’s very reasonable to expect new highs from time to time.
With the solar minimum and the insignificant temp rises in the last 20 years we could have reached a cusp or turning point. We are not sure and the climate models are not the way to find out.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 5:33 am

get off your bum and go okk at the EU weather, now and last couple of yrs with crops n harvest runined by cold frosts and snow, even aus this yr had late start to summer with nights too cold for seedling to grow until january bu which time it was too late to produce and ripen crops, and a few days over 35c for the majority isnt a heat wave its normal.
drought areas different but drought lasting up to 10yrs are normal too

mike the morlock
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 9:50 am

Loydo May 13, 2019 at 1:24 am

Thats not “your data”, that’s just more anecdotal arm-waving. “Carry on”, lol.

It is your data like it or not. It is also current events.

By the way it has been snowing in both hemispheres last week.
Keep lol Oh and remember which warmest said nature bats last?

I wish I could LOL but there are to many farmers here in the U.S. and Europe facing Bankruptcy .
Yeah and that also is “your” data.

michael

Bryan A
Reply to  Loydo
May 14, 2019 8:30 am

Sorry Loydo but you seem to be the dismissive one doing all the arm waving

Schitzree
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 9:41 am

“When my own personal experience” doesn’t match the data, the data is wrong.

Uh huh. Thats how science should be done.

Loydo, “my own personal experience” IS data. And if my data contradicts your data, then we have an issue.

Now, what you were trying to insinuate was that someone’s ‘personal experience’ is only a cherry picked from the larger sample. An that does have some validity. The problem is, as others have pointed out, that it ISN’T just one person’s ‘experience. It is the experience of many, in many locations.

Compare that to your ‘DATA’. The Temperature graphs produced by your so called ‘Climate Scientists’ need to be adjusted every couple years to continue to show warming. And even then, the majority of it is all in places we can hardly measure, like the Arctic Ocean.

Of course, all this is really immaterial. What the public is seeing is colder weather, later Springs, earlier Autumns, and brutal winters. After Decades of ‘Children won’t remember what snow is.’ And predictions of a world boiling alive, it’s too late to start claiming you actually ment ‘More Extreme Weather, especially blizzards’.

The Climate Faithful might buy that bull, because they will believe ANYTHING at this point that helps prop up their delusional worldview. But the rest of the public is starting to see just how crazy this all is.

The Scam is ending.

~¿~

MarkW
Reply to  Kenji
May 13, 2019 6:33 am

While the last 4 years might have been amongst the hottest. (1998 and much of the 30’s were still hotter), it’s also been cooling for the last 3 years.
I see he forgot to mention that part.

Martin Hovland
May 12, 2019 9:53 pm

So, his plan is now to visit the states that will be under water in few years, in the middle of the Pacific ocean. Places where the tectonics makes one side of the island sink (Tonga, Tuvalu and Fiji) and one side rises. The sinking part is due to sealevel rise…..! This is how they continue the storytelling, which is now scientifically based ….! This is their narration. The terrain has to agree with their maps (e.g., their silly projections).

Dave Fair
Reply to  Martin Hovland
May 12, 2019 9:56 pm

Maybe, like Guam, they will tip over and we will be rid of them.

john harmsworth
Reply to  Martin Hovland
May 13, 2019 10:03 am

Apparently the Chinese didn’t get the memo about rising sea level. Those dopes are building islands that will obviously be inundated any day now. I guess their scientists aren’t as smart as ours. Either that or ours are completely out of their minds!

May 12, 2019 9:56 pm

and the paradox is that as things are getting worse on the ground

Maybe Senor Guterres should change his air conditioning technician 😉

Cheers

Roger

Martin Hovland
May 12, 2019 9:57 pm

Guterres is now going to visit Tuvalu, Tonga and Fiji, to show how the galloping sea level rise will influence these poor states. It is a well known fact to many that parts of these island states sink due to tectonic montions, which to the IPCC means rising sea level….The storytelling continues.

papertiger
May 12, 2019 9:58 pm

Reminds me of Starship Troopers when Doogie Howser mind probes the smart bug.

[Doogie Howser psychically probes the captured U.N. official]

Doogie: They’re afraid. They’re afraid!

rah
May 12, 2019 9:58 pm

The more they whimper and whine the better I like it. The big push has failed and they’re starting to see the writing on the wall.

Greg Cavanagh
May 12, 2019 9:58 pm

It looks like Guterres could do with a few meals less himself.

And what’s the point in making such an announcement in New Zealand? The smallest nation that contributes insignificant amounts to world CO2. What could they possibly do that makes the slightest difference to anything?

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
May 13, 2019 12:22 am

Why New Zealand?

Maybe because it is rapidly becoming a police state under the rule of Jacinda, Tyrant of Wellington.

While the MSM are all gleefully going Squee about how compassionate she is, they are ignoring how she has been using recent events to remove base freedoms in her country. A notable point of comparison between her and other parts of the world can be seen in the recent pointless and barbaric religious killings in both NZ and SL.

SL made a point of naming and shaming the bombers so that everyone will know their names and remember them for the murderers they are. To the Sri Lankans these people have disgraced their family, nation and religion and must be identified as the scum they are.

Compare to New Zealand where the Tyrant of Wellington spoke in parliament to declare the shooter a non person who shall never be named, and who’s writings and other publications must never be available to the public. Exactly why is open to question. A more accusing type might consider the killer’s self claim to be an Eco-Fascist and might suggest that the views of this person – brutal murder obviously not withstanding – cut very close to a few too many of the policies of the existing government.

Violence in the name of religion is barbaric and it is a long and compassionless argument before it can even remotely be justified, but the oppression of knowledge and restrictions on the free transfer of information does not bode well for a healthy and free nation.

Observe New Zealand with caution.

MarkW
Reply to  Craig from Oz
May 13, 2019 6:44 am

It’s easy to be compassionate when you are spending other people money. (And have police powers sufficient to seize as much money as you need.)

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Craig from Oz
May 13, 2019 11:29 am

We thought Helen Clarke was bad. Adern takes the biscuit!

Mike Low
Reply to  Patrick MJD
May 13, 2019 4:07 pm

More idly fish and chips – Cindy’s only experience in business!

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Mike Low
May 13, 2019 4:17 pm

I really must read my comments before posting. More LIKELY …… But then, idly is not inappropriate for our dear leader Cindy Ardern!

SAMURAI
May 12, 2019 10:03 pm

The CAGW Hoax is tanking…

There hasn’t been discernible global warming trend in 20 years, and ALL the CAGW doom and gloom wild predictions have been proven to be hilariously devoid from reality: global warming trends, ocean pH, extreme weather incidence/frequency trends, CH4 projections, Sea Level Rise, Antarctic Land Ice Melt, Arctic Ice Extents, falling crop yields, etc.,

The reason “the political will to fight Climate Change has faded”, is because the empirical evidence show the CAGW hypothesis has crashed and burned…

CAGW advocates have been relegated to lying, obfuscating, and fiddling with raw data to keep this farce alive, which will eventually lead to an epic blowback against Leftist politicians once the huge disparity between reality and their lies is exposed…

Taxpayers around the world are simply refusing to waste $100’s trillions of their hard-earned money on a nefarious Hoax..

CAGW is dead…

Loydo
Reply to  SAMURAI
May 12, 2019 11:17 pm

What “empirical evidence” are you referring to?

F1nn
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 4:34 am

Measured evidence are empirical. Models are science fiction.

You should know. Or are you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcnsao7Y0gk ?

bullfrex
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 6:04 am

Loydo…..ALL of it.

MarkW
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 6:45 am

He listed it, starting in the second paragraph. Perhaps you should actually read what people write.

Joel Snider
Reply to  MarkW
May 13, 2019 11:14 am

That’s not a troll’s job.

Bryan A
Reply to  Joel Snider
May 13, 2019 2:21 pm

Loydo
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Loydo
Reply to  MarkW
May 13, 2019 3:42 pm

That was arm-waving. This is empirical data: average decadal temperature increase from a range of datasets in degrees Celsius.

AIRS: +0.24 (from the 2019 Susskind et al. study)
GISTEMP: +0.22
ECMWF: +0.20
RSS LT: +0.20
Cowtan & Way: +0.19
UAH LT: +0.18
HadCRUT4: +0.17

Posted here a few days ago.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/05/11/does-nasas-latest-study-confirm-global-warming/

It empirically shows abrupt global warming.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Loydo
May 13, 2019 5:30 pm

Short period, ending on a Super El Nino. Then the best they could get is 2C/Century, plus or minus. Wow! Abrupt increases?

Dave Fair
Reply to  SAMURAI
May 13, 2019 10:02 am

The recent progressive meme is species extinction due to CO2. Anything to grab the gullible.

Dave Fair
Reply to  SAMURAI
May 13, 2019 10:03 am

Also, with progressives it is winning the battle of the moment that is paramount. They know the MSM will never go back and reveal prior lies.

Art
May 12, 2019 10:03 pm

“Guterres made the comments after arriving in New Zealand… ”

By air. Spewing CO2 all the way. All that destructive gas released into the air to wreak havoc on our climate, just to say something he could have said by phone, or teleconferencing.

Ya think maybe they’re just following your example, Antonio?

Hugs
Reply to  Art
May 12, 2019 11:56 pm

No doubt UN Secretary General Guterres used an ecologically friendly means to travel to New Zealand to deliver his speech.

As a comment to that – he didn’t obviously, because his political will to avoid flying is fading.

There are two sets of rules; one for plebs, one for high UN officials. He thinks high officials continue flying to exotic places, but plebs are taxed so they don’t. I’d say there’s no climate panic at hand as long as UN people fly to NZ to give a speech.

John V. Wright
May 12, 2019 10:19 pm

And after Tuvalu he will be moving on to berate China. Oh, er…hang on….

Marco
May 12, 2019 10:20 pm

New Zealand definitely is a beautiful country a.o. because there is hardly any industry, natural sounds and glaciers and a lot of vulcanic activity. How on earth can a country with these fantastic natural conditions “fulfill its obligations” to a Paris climate dreamworld?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Marco
May 13, 2019 5:53 am

It closes.

Herbert
May 12, 2019 10:24 pm

One of the obligations under the Paris Agreement is to contribute to the UN Green Fund.
When last I looked, those climate warriors in New Zealand had made a contribution of a paltry $50 million.
It looks like one of the countries not doing their bit is New Zealand.
Australia had kicked in some $297 million until the current PM,Scott Morrison, came under fire in the press and stated there would be no more contributions by Australia.
An election will be held this coming Saturday and if a Labor government is installed in Australia no doubt the colleagues of Mr. Guterres will be around with their begging bowl.
Incidentally, is the Green Fund still viable?
In May last year there was turmoil at their meeting and the Australian Chairman resigned.The cupboard is bare since President Trump cancelled some $2 billion promised by President Obama.

LdB
Reply to  Herbert
May 12, 2019 11:48 pm

Not sure where you are getting $50M from the status as at Jan 2019 stated $3M
https://www.greenclimate.fund/documents/20182/24868/Status_of_Pledges.pdf/eef538d3-2987-4659-8c7c-5566ed6afd19

Australia pledge $200M and has contributes $187

The biggest defaulters are USA and the UK.
USA pledge $3B and has paid $1B but Trump is refusing to pay balance and USA is exiting if he gets his way.
UK pledged $1.2B but still owe $500M obviously Griff hasn’t paid up yet.

PeterGB
Reply to  LdB
May 13, 2019 3:53 am

Nice chart, LdB, but I am not reading the columns as you are ($US equiv??), the UK has apparently dispersed £720m, the amount pledged.

Why the **** is the UK contributing $1.2bn, the third largest amount in the world, when our emissions are less than 1% of the total and decreasing very rapidly. The greenloons need ejecting promptly. We’ve got people living on the streets, literacy and numeracy in school leavers is less than their grandparents and there are thousands of needless deaths yearly in the “care” of the NHS. And these idiots “in charge” think we’ve got money to spend on this lunacy.

LdB
Reply to  PeterGB
May 13, 2019 8:45 am

Yeah sorry I stand corrected you are right I thought they had converted it all to USD, missed the asterix

So UK has paid up it’s pledge of $1.2B USD or £720m

Nicholas McGinley
May 12, 2019 10:44 pm

OT, but I was just reading a story on Breitbart about AOC.
She is now claiming she was only joking about the world ending in 12 years, and anyone who believed her is a stupid idiot.
This is where we are now, in bizarre land.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/12/ocasio-cortez-climate-change-destroy-earth-12-years-claim-not-literal/

LdB
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
May 13, 2019 12:05 am

She only exists to make blondes look smart.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  LdB
May 13, 2019 1:27 am

At least she knows how to mix a cocktail.

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  Patrick MJD
May 13, 2019 3:35 am

Has anyone confirmed that yet?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
May 13, 2019 5:41 am

She is qualified, apparently.

icisil
Reply to  LdB
May 13, 2019 5:23 am

“History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.”

From MAO to LMAO
https://twitter.com/ThePeoplesCube/status/1127721997230837760

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Eric Worrall
May 13, 2019 6:53 am

Yes, AOCs unfamiliarity with a garbage disposal was puzzling. She should probably have googled it before making a fool of herself over it in an interview.

AOC has no clue.

HotScot
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
May 13, 2019 1:25 am

Our UK Prime Minister Theresa May repeated 32 times that, relative to Brexit “No Deal [with the EU] is better than a Bad Deal. She also repeated 108 times that we would be leaving the EU on the 29th March 2019.

When both those promises were violated she told us all she was talking in ‘the abstract’.

Are we therefore to now assume that everything every politician tells us is an ‘abstract’ concept?

Like we didn’t know that already?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  HotScot
May 13, 2019 5:44 am

We call that in Australia BULLSHeeT

F1nn
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
May 13, 2019 4:18 am

She´s like Finnish politician: “I didn´t say that, and if I did, I didn´t mean it.” That´s how stupid idiots (politicians) talk. She was only describing herself.

john harmsworth
Reply to  F1nn
May 13, 2019 10:12 am

We’re the idiots! Every few years we believe a new set of promises that involve ideas that are good for us individually and bad for the country. We deserve what we get. We need to limit the power of elected officials to implement policies they didn’t campaign on-for starters.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
May 13, 2019 10:06 am

“My words only mean what I mean them to mean.” See my previous comments about progressives wanting to only win the current battle.

Wiliam Haas
May 12, 2019 11:13 pm

There is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate. There is plenty of scientific rationale to support the idea that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. So reducing CO2 emissions will have no effect on climate.

BoyfromTottenham
Reply to  Wiliam Haas
May 13, 2019 1:16 am

No evidence that CO2 affects climate. So what do the warmists do – fiddle the WMO temperature data to create warming, than blame it on CO2. There – fixed! Scumbags.

Moderately Cross of East Anglia
May 13, 2019 12:18 am

I thought some of the islands on Peron’s world tour were supposed to have vanished under sea level rise some years ago?

Maybe they are being kept afloat by UN and alarmist hot air?

Robber
May 13, 2019 12:24 am

Oh yes, it’s getting SO HOT!! What is the average global temperature after 1 degree C of warming since the little ice age? About 16 degrees C. Yet another 0.5-1.0 degrees of warming is supposed to be catastrophic? For blind believers, I implore you to lead by example – stop using fossil fuels immediately, turn off the lights and go to bed. Ahh, wonderful.

May 13, 2019 12:31 am

Sadly CC is far from dead. Here in Australia as the election day, this
Saturday approaches, it CC is a hot button issue, with both parties talking
about what they will do to save the Planet. The only difference is that the
Liberals ( Conservative) party is going by its commitment from the original
Kyoto, whereas Labour is all for the tougher Paris target. as per the
percentage of emissions.

Mind you I doubt if the Labour leader Bill Shorten really believes in this
nonsense, but as with all of them, he goes along with it.

MJE VK5ELL

HotScot
Reply to  Michael
May 13, 2019 1:28 am

Michael

It’s a means of extracting more tax from people. What politician wouldn’t be attracted by that, I mean, it’s the only solution to everything.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  HotScot
May 13, 2019 2:15 am

As a former UK resident, I am sure you and I both know how elections get a bit crazy in the UK. Australia takes it to a whole other level, several levels actually, of stupid crazy! Really! When I say Australian politics is a farce that could not be written by John Cleese and Connie Boothe I am being kind.

badEnglish
Reply to  Michael
May 25, 2019 5:09 pm

Well, now you get to find out! Having similar thoughts up here in Vancouver with regard to Andrew Scheer. We are waiting with bated breath for his pre-campaign Climate policy statement.

Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)
May 13, 2019 12:44 am

After 20 years monitoring climate, I can say that there’s not the slightest indication of any problems.

But the climate cult isn’t based on evidence. However, I’m pretty sure that the vast majority of people over 30 know themselves that despite what the tin pot academics tell us in shrieking voices, that they’ve seen absolutely no changes in the climate. So, I can understand why the gullible, scientifically illiterate and easily misled politicians & media can’t understand why they’re amongst the few people left who still buy into the global warming scam.

May 13, 2019 1:16 am

“…commitments under the 2016 Paris agreement …”

Not 2016.
The Paris Agreement at COP21 was in 2015. It was adopted by consensus on 12 December 2015.

And there’s that word again: consensus.

May 13, 2019 1:25 am

If you click on the AlJezeera link above it takes you to an AJ articel written in 2016 about the 2015 agreement.
Here:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/11/paris-climate-agreement-matters-161103164915776.html

In that November 4, 2016 Al Jezeera article, the reporter/writer states:

“Most of the world’s largest emitters of greenhouse gases, including India, China, the United States and the European Union, have ratified the agreement.”

“But because Washington has already ratified it and it comes into force before the November 8 election…”

That’s Fake news of course. It was never ratified in the US Senate. It was only agreed to by the Worst US President-Ever.

Steve Borodin
May 13, 2019 1:33 am

To quote his colleague: “This has nothing to do with climate.” Dumb or corrupt?

Sara
Reply to  Steve Borodin
May 13, 2019 3:45 am

Yes.

F1nn
Reply to  Steve Borodin
May 13, 2019 4:39 am

With and, both.

DocSiders
May 13, 2019 4:55 am

I’ll quit fighting warmists and join them if:
* They can show data that weather events are statistically getting more severe/frequent.
* Describe how the warming from 1910 to 1940 was natural and an identical warming from 1970 to 2000 was primarily from CO2.
* Explain the lack of tropical mid troposphere warming THAT IS THE SIGNATURE OF the HYDROLOGICAL AMPLIFICATION OF CO2 warming
* Make one prediction that comes true.
* Explain the pause without searching frantically for data for 15 years to find new but still unsubstantiated satellite data (which, by the way still shows no mid troposphere warming).
* Explain how CO2 creates the stepwise temperature jumps THAT ALSO OCCURRED BEFORE CO2 forcing was high enough.

mr bliss
May 13, 2019 5:01 am

“Climate change is running faster than what we are” – more likely the political rhetoric is running much, much faster than the scientific evidence demonstrates

R Shearer
Reply to  mr bliss
May 13, 2019 5:37 am

More Red Queen BS. Leftists learn something trivial and then they see it everywhere they look.

michael hart
May 13, 2019 5:09 am

“Countries are not living up to their commitments under the 2016 Paris Agreement to keep the global temperature rise to below two degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels, he said.

Well, he doesn’t really know that, does he? All he knows is that they aren’t taking the political actions he wants.

Be that as it may, he also knows, when he is being honest (which is probably not as often as it should be), that any political will was originally just born of hopes and promises of large amounts of free cash for those voting for yet another UN boondoggle. It is his job to always campaign for more money and more power. Both more and sooner. That is all.

Linda Goodman
Reply to  michael hart
May 13, 2019 6:18 am

They lost their major funding thanks to President Trump, who deserves full credit for derailing this eco-fascist nightmare. And we desperately need election reform ASAP.

Craig
May 13, 2019 5:13 am

Fading political will or regression toward the mean?

Davis
Reply to  Craig
May 13, 2019 6:36 am

Politicians lose their will when the voters do, politicians will do anything for votes if the tide turns.

bonbon
May 13, 2019 6:01 am

The NZ Vegan Society just called for a Climate State of Emergency, following Ireland, or Guterres?
I’d watch the Pacific Rim of Fire!

Linda Goodman
May 13, 2019 6:09 am

Imho Donald J. Trump deserves full credit for derailing this eco-fascist nightmare. So the demonrats intend to steal the WH in 2020 under media cover and we need election reform ASAP – federalized with Voter ID, paper ballots and vetted counters. Nothing less!

Linda Goodman
May 13, 2019 6:13 am

President Trump has derailed this eco-fascist nightmare – no doubt the #1 cause of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Davis
May 13, 2019 6:34 am

The UN should stick to their original job, keeping people from killing each other.
All the rest is none of their business.

MarkW
Reply to  Davis
May 13, 2019 7:17 am

Heck, they couldn’t even manage their original job.

DocSiders
May 13, 2019 6:47 am

Stupidity pointing out “4 of the last 10 years are the hottest….”.

Duh…temperatures have been rising for 100+ of the last 150-180 years…COMING OUT OF A DEVASTATING COLD PERIOD! There were 30-50 years when temperature trends were negative or zero (from cycles and noise). So in roughly 2/3 of the last 150 years you could say… “4 of the last 10 years were the hottest on record”.

Just more propaganda.

Gamecock
May 13, 2019 6:53 am

“UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said the political will to fight hair loss has faded at the same time as it is getting worse for those feeling its effects.”

FIFY

Hair loss has meaning; ‘climate change’ doesn’t. Whenever you see ‘climate change,’ substitute “hair loss.”

‘Fighting climate change’ is equivalent to tilting at windmills.

ResourceGuy
May 13, 2019 7:15 am

Calling all money bags. It’s time to pay in again.

Nick Schroeder
May 13, 2019 7:26 am

For the greenhouse effect to perform as advertised the earth must be surrounded by a cold outer space, perhaps as low as 5 K. That explains how NOAA can claim that the naked earth would become a frozen ice ball at -430 F.

In fact, earth is surrounded by hot outer space, i.e. 394 K, 121 C, 250 F. That’s why the International Space Station includes an ammonia refrigerant cooling system.

The atmosphere does not warm the earth like a greenhouse but cools it like that reflective panel behind a car’s windshield.

No greenhouse effect, no greenhouse gases, no man caused climate change nor global warming.

A thirty-year illusion orchestrated by hustlers behind green velvet curtains.

Take that red pill of honest science and wake to reality.

May 13, 2019 8:31 am

“political will seems to be fading”
Says another pompous, arrogant, know nothing elitist! More UN propaganda!
No it hasn’t been fading …
The last few years of cooling temperatures has shown people an inkling of reality, the colder weather is freezing the political will to do more for it is seen as foolish, if not very stupid.
Electric cars, windfarms, and solar cells are useless under a meter of snow!

Bruce Cobb
May 13, 2019 8:49 am

Everyone complains about the climate, but no one ever does anything about it.

John Bell
May 13, 2019 9:05 am

I love to imagine a big hole in the ground waiting for all these UN tyrants, hypocrites, bureaucrats, parasites, pompous thieves.

May 13, 2019 9:28 am

I don’t understand this part of one of the sentences in the article:

… the political will to fight climate change has faded at the same time as it is getting worse for those feeling its effects.

Exactly who is being referred to by the phrase, “those feeling its effects”?

And if everybody is not feeling its effects, then why? Why is just a select group of “those” feeling its effects? How is it that the world, as a whole, is undergoing this catastrophic climate change brought on by less than a couple degrees, figured for the WHOLE WORLD, and only a select “those” are feeling the effects NOW, at this particular time?

I sense that there is conflation of observations going on here –maybe people experiencing the particular disasters of the day (which are no more intense than usual) are being parasitized as the “those” being referred to.

Charlie Adamson
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
May 13, 2019 10:49 am

Hello Robert,.. My take on this is that your “spider sense” has detected a hidden form of deception and that the BS alarm that you were born with has activated. Many here on this site have very good senses when it comes to someone trying to deceive them or when errors have been made. It is apparent to me that you have that skill too.

Personally I think that you are on to something even bigger. What I have learned to do is see the workings of psychological projection when it shows it’s wares. For example what I see is that Guterres is actually projecting the truth about what HE and his like are feeling, namely that THEY are feeling the effects of having the curtain pulled back on their criminal intentions and corruption.

So to look at this statement in another way,.. these con-artists are feeling the effects of their “tax-washing” and other methods of money laundering beginning to dry up. Once this catches on their criminal scheme becomes visible and that scares the daylights out of them.

PhilJ
May 13, 2019 2:05 pm

I note that none of these UN dignitaries ever fly to Manitoba in February to make speeches about climate change…

Unfortunately, Canadians are such a timid lot, a majority of us seem to be willing to pay more to heat our homes for the supposed purpose of preventing it from getting warmer outside….

Real life chicken little story on full display… To bad the princes are in bed with the foxes…

Johann Wundersamer
May 19, 2019 7:10 am

“No doubt UN Secretary General Guterres uses an ecologically friendly “means to travel to New Zealand to deliver his speech.”
_______________________________________________

what a dilemma – urgent tasks to fulfill, no time for consideration of “ecologically friendly” solutions!

Johann Wundersamer
May 19, 2019 7:12 am

“No doubt UN Secretary General Guterres uses an ecologically friendly “means to travel to New Zealand to deliver his speech.”
_______________________________________________

what a dilemma – urgent tasks to fulfill, no time for consideration of “ecologically friendly” means!

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