No new natural gas hookups in New York’s Westchester County, Con Ed says

Con Ed is sticking to its plans for the moratorium.  The pain of green policies begins to be felt in NY.~ctm

A logo of New York power utility Consolidated Edison Inc is seen in New York July 1, 2012. REUTERS/Eric Thayer

(Reuters) – New York energy company Consolidated Edison Inc said on Friday it still plans to impose a moratorium on new natural gas service in parts of Westchester County after March 15 despite a $250 million plan by the state to reduce energy usage.

“The moratorium will still go into effect after March 15,” Con Edison spokesman Allan Drury said, noting the company needs to stop hooking up new gas customers to avoid compromising gas system reliability because of limited space on existing interstate pipelines into the region.

Westchester County is north of New York City.

New York State has blocked construction of new interstate pipelines for environmental reasons for years as Governor Andrew Cuomo and other state officials want utilities to focus more on renewable power sources and energy efficiency programs, instead of building more gas and other fossil fuel-fired power plants and infrastructure.

Consumers, however, want access to more gas to heat homes and businesses because it is cheaper and cleaner to burn than oil. This winter, U.S. Northeast households, on average, are expected to spend $723 to heat with gas and $1,646 with oil, according to federal estimates.

Drury said Con Edison has received more than 1,300 applications for new gas hookups since notifying the state of the moratorium on Jan. 17, well above the number the company normally receives during a two-month period.

On Thursday, the state announced several steps totaling $250 million to reduce energy consumption and fund alternative energy programs.

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Rob
March 18, 2019 9:56 am

The gas companies should shut the gas off to state government buildings and the homes of corrupt NY officials and politicians, who caused the problem. So others can have gas.

Prjindigo
March 18, 2019 10:12 am

Actually there is a limit as to how many connections you can have on a given gas system… if you don’t get enough gas pressure through to the regulators because of over-demand it can end up putting out the pilot lights of thousands of stoves/furnaces/ovens/water heaters and you start getting gas explosions.

So when ConEd says “no more”… it has [snip]-all to do with climate or green.

It has to do with the risk of billions of dollars of damage.

Greg F
Reply to  Prjindigo
March 18, 2019 11:39 am

…it can end up putting out the pilot lights of thousands of stoves/furnaces/ovens/water heaters and you start getting gas explosions.

Doubt very much there are many appliances in wealthy Westchester county that still use pilot lights. My furnace and water heater are close to 20 years old and neither use a pilot light. Our stove is more than 5 years old and doesn’t have pilot lights. Not even sure if there is anything available anymore that has a pilot light including “apartment”/”mobil home” stoves. The issue I can see is if you put something on the stove to simmer and the pressure dropped enough to extinguish the burner. When the pressure came back up the burner would still be on but not lit.

Marcus
Reply to  Greg F
March 18, 2019 12:33 pm

“. The issue I can see is if you put something on the stove to simmer and the pressure dropped enough to extinguish the burner. When the pressure came back up the burner would still be on but not lit.”

Umm, that is why you need pilot lights…

Rocketscientist
Reply to  Greg F
March 18, 2019 1:34 pm

Water heaters and furnaces still have pilot lights. Even in CA.
But, even really old units have a thermocouple controlled fuel flow shut off. If the flame goes out, the gas flow to the pilot shuts off.
No big explosions immanent.

March 18, 2019 10:37 am

The marxist states like NY, CA, MA, NJ, MD, etc, sure know how to chase people out. Part of their strategy — destroy this states and then send out sycophants to destroy other states (almost always ones w/warm climates).

Rocketscientist
Reply to  beng135
March 18, 2019 1:41 pm

CA was the recipient of the early flow of intellectually unencumbered refugees seeking a life where thinking wasn’t required.
Nobody leaves CA because of the physical climate, just the political one.

Russell Johnson
March 18, 2019 12:59 pm

This situation is not about cost or efficiency. NY is punishing its residents and businesses by not allowing additional NG pipelines and connections. CO2 polluting the atmosphere, causing global warming/climate change is a politico-religious hoax designed to fund and empower socialism. I’m sure you know that the Green New Deal does not go far enough to “stop climate change” according to these witless fools.

Sheri
March 18, 2019 1:09 pm

As if another reason were needed to avoid New York, this is one. As for the heat pump that is so popular in the comments, I guess if you don’t mind your home at slightly above freezing when it’s -25°F and a 30 mph wind, it’s a wonderful option. Don’t get me wrong, I have a friend who often has a home that gets that cold and you can survive most definately. I just don’t understand CHOOSING to live that way and paying a fortune to do so….

March 18, 2019 4:03 pm

Much talk about how expensive electricity is for heating a home, but what about the reverse cycle air conditioners. Here in Australia they are very popular as a means of heating, true we do have a much milder winter climate, its our Summers which can be a problem.

Another point, a lot of talk about insulating a house so no heat escapes. What about Radon gas, you know that radio active stuff from deep down in the Earth. It was much discussed way back as being a danger.

MJE VK5ELL

March 19, 2019 9:10 am

Con Ed New York is to be congratulated for running the “demonstration of effects” in advance of AOC’s Green New Deal that (perchance) requires elimination of the use of all fossil fuels within the next ten years.

If only the masses were able to perform a simple extrapolation from this . . .

yarpos
March 19, 2019 8:39 pm

One way to escalate things I guess. Tell people in one of the richest counties in the State , if not the country, that they cant have something. That will soon test the resolve.

Perry
March 20, 2019 3:36 am

Build a Kang 炕 or even a Hypocaust. Those who cannot remember the past, should, PDQ!!!

Sun Spot
March 20, 2019 4:41 pm

I have a Mitsubishi Zuba central air source heat pump, when it was -18 degree C my heat pump was giving me 112 degree F plenum temperature.
As natural gas was not an option where I live this option is only slightly more expensive than gas.

Ethically Civil
March 21, 2019 3:43 pm

Hard to BBQ on a heat pump… and lugging around 25lb propane bottles is a pain.