Tips for psychologists on how to spread climate propaganda from Down Under

From the Australian Psychological Society.

Climate change communication

Such gems as:

Communicating effectively about a topic like climate change that is complex, confusing, uncertain, sometimes overwhelming, and often emotionally and politically loaded, is challenging.

In order for people to become motivated and empowered to adopt the needed changes to reduce environmental threats, they must be able to interpret and respond to information. The impact of communications on behaviour varies dramatically based on how the communication is developed and delivered.

Some key points

 

Be clear about the scientific consensus. Research shows that telling people that 97% of scientists accept the science on climate change is very important in terms of increasing public awareness of human-caused climate change and support for climate solutions.

 

Inspire positive visions. Let people know that we already have concrete, plausible solutions which can drastically reduce carbon emissions and counter feelings of helplessness. People listen better to optimistic messages. Doom messages can backfire because people switch off.

 

Use vivid, emotive and personal stories, particularly those that elicit positive emotions – these are more memorable and also a stronger motivator for action.

 

Make climate change here, now and for sure. Bring climate impacts close to home to show people that climate change is relevant to them, and that it threatens their health, families, communities, jobs or other things they deeply care about. People are more likely to heed risks they see as relevant, personal and salient.

Also from this page.

The APS takes an advocacy role with Government and in the public domain by representing the needs and interests of its members. The APS also advocates on issues where psychology can make a contribution to public debate and policy in the interests of community wellbeing and social justice.

HT/Joe Cool

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104 thoughts on “Tips for psychologists on how to spread climate propaganda from Down Under

  1. “Use vivid, emotive and personal stories, particularly those that elicit positive emotions – these are more memorable and also a stronger motivator for action.”

    Use the AOC New Green Deal methodology. Tell people the world only has 12 years until the earth is unhibabitable and to fix the problem we will require all of your money, your lifestyle and your happiness.

    • If psychology were actually based on evidence-based medicine, these quacks could actually be sued for malpractise.

      • I’m reminded that author of “Silence Of The Lambs” Thomas Harris wrote that his main character psychiatrist Dr Hannibal Lecter at one point observed that students for psychology degrees were drawn from the ranks of amateur ham radio buffs, and the like.

        I think this article supports Thomas’ perspicacity.

    • Some experts are now saying that the Green New Deal is the longest suicide note ever written! I would have to agree with those experts!

    • there will be a day of reckoning and a great cleansing will occur. And then the idiocy will cease. Until then, Poor Fellow My Country.

        • According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lucky_Country

          The Lucky Country is a 1964 book by Donald Horne. Horne’s intent in writing the book was to portray Australia’s climb to power and wealth based almost entirely on luck rather than the strength of its political or economic system, which Horne believed was “second rate”. In addition to political and economic weaknesses, he also lamented on the lack of innovation and ambition, as well as a philistinism in the absence of art, among the Australian population, viewed by Horne as being complacent and indifferent to intellectual matters. He also commented on matters relating to Australian puritanism, as well as conservatism, particularly in relation to censorship and politics.

          Unless the insanity is culled, its luck will surely run out.

        • When your psychological society advocates the wholesale spreading of lies and deception I would think brainwashed is a more appropriate descriptor than stupid.

          • Marv, that’s probably a bit unfair. Between the education system, the news networks, the comedy channels, and what passes for documentaries; the people are fed dumb 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

            That plus the politicians are the dumbest on earth, right up there with Canada and Italy.

            If you feed people BS all day long, can it be any wonder that they are confused.

          • Very true Greg. Even though I have lived here for 13 years I still feel like an outsider looking in. To me the brainwashing is obvious, at all levels. The verbal vitriol levelled at “climate deniers” is extreme.

  2. Having done a psych degree in Australia, I can tell the uninitiated that the APS is the ONLY gateway to becoming a registered psych. You gotta get with the program or find something else to do.

    Please remember that some psych does good for people, but it’s a sad state of affairs over all. The governining body is as political as they come. And then they wonder why no one treats psych as a legitimate science lol

  3. Doom messages can backfire because people switch off.

    followed by….

    it threatens their health, families, communities, jobs or other things they deeply care about.

    Sad state of affairs when their own article contradicts itself.

    • “Doom messages can backfire because people switch off.” Because people know it’s BS. Changing tactics won’t help, it’s still BS.

    • …and all the exaggerating…..just tell people the truth

      Global warming is going to make all the volcanoes erupt…. the explosions will kill all the polar bears
      …and the fires will ignite all the cow farts

      and then BOOM…..it’s over

  4. The desperation on display from the Climate alarmists is becoming farcical. When the shrinks feel the need to advise other shrinks what is an effective way to convey lies, you just know they have lost the scientific debate.

  5. People listen better to optimistic messages. Doom messages can backfire because people switch off.

    And yet every news organisation since print was invented has found that “If it bleeds, it leads”. Optimistic messages have been weeded out by natural selection.

    This is not just propaganda. It is propaganda that won’t work.
    Some people are too stupid to be a problem.

    • Or formatted correctly:

      People listen better to optimistic messages. Doom messages can backfire because people switch off.

      And yet every news organisation since print was invented has found that “If it bleeds, it leads”. Optimistic messages have been weeded out by natural selection.

      This is not just propaganda. It is propaganda that won’t work.
      Some people are too stupid to be a problem.

  6. Tips for psychos??
    Don’t worry the church are going like crazy to spread their versions of doom in the UK, aided and abetted by the well known nutcases and pseudo psychos…”John Ray initiative”.
    …connecting Environment, Science and Christianity (oh dear!).
    “How our personal qualities make us care for the planet by Beth Warman”

    Truly frightening!

    Eg loony Houghton (AGAIN), claiming the moral high ground – from above, and he’s president!
    https://www.jri.org.uk/brief/Briefing15-print.pdf

    These people are so convinced they are right, their infallibility, their right to brain wash and pressurise, it could never occur to them their version of pseudo-psychology could ever be anything other than “pure virtue”.

    The who’s-who is enough to give you a brief summary of the role of Britain’s best universities in falsifying, stonewalling, and plain b-shitting ..
    https://www.jri.org.uk/introduction/people/

    And guess what favourite name turns up in the show casting?
    Patrons
    Lord John Gummer, Baron Deben!

    “The John Ray Initiative is an educational charity with a vision to bring together scientific and Christian understandings of the environment in a way that can be widely communicated and lead to effective action. JRI’s mission is to promote responsible environmental stewardship in accordance with Christian principles and the wise use of science and technology.”

    Yeah right!

  7. Research shows that telling people that 97% of scientists accept the science on climate change

    Not sure starting with a lie is a good idea, for even if you accept the 97% claim, and ignore the herd of elephants in the room which are its methodological problems. They did not say 97% of scientists at all.
    That they feel starting with what they know to be false suggest they have a weak argument to begin, and they hoping to win through BS rather than facts. The rest of their idea merely reinforces this impression.
    So I wonder did it ever occur to them that this is why the failing , that despite what some may think most people can spot sh8T when you are trying to selll that to them ?

    • [..]97% of scientists accept the science on climate change[..]

      This is what we call a red herring.

      Yes, we accept ‘the science’. We don’t think any paper is error free, so we have reviews and IPCC reports. They’re not perfect, but good enough to point out that most ‘communication’ nowadays is not grounded on solid science that scientists agree on.

      Let alone if the communication is pushing a certain policy goal.

      Oh, some people here do not accept all ‘the science’. That’s basically what makes science worth it. However, I’d safely dismiss people who expect RPC8.5.

      • the claim ‘97% of scientists is simply false, no such research has ever been that would even remotely support this idea.
        And for good reason, no one even knowns how many ‘scientists’ there are, and that is partly because there is universal agreement on what make a ‘scientists ‘ in the first place.
        The 97% ‘claim ‘ relates to a sub-section of a subjection of papers for a limited time period , ‘filtered ‘ in a manner to give a predetermined result. Its crap all the way through, but the authors did not claim it was ‘97% of scientists’ , although they certainly have allowed this claim loud and proud by those that should know better , without redress.
        That AGW sceptics have themselves come accept the ‘97% of scientists’ claim shows that despite all the poor practice seen in this research its been very ‘effective’ even if its results are worthless. In other word climate ‘science ‘ at its best.

        • “‘97% of scientists is simply false”

          Well, could be. The question is so badly put. But more importantly, it has no relevance as ‘the science’ is the part for which we want to define before accepting statements about it.

          If we reverse engineer what is the what scientists agree on, the result is ‘not what the alarmist in question wants to claim it does’.

          • Its false in the sense of ‘scientists’ because this has not been done, all that was consider was ‘papers’ from a short period which were then ‘filtered ‘ to get a result they openly said they were out to find.
            There is no ‘97% of scientists ‘research, and in fact no any% of scientists research , party for the reasons I have given.
            That is ‘claim’ has become accepted as a fact , if a poor one, tells us great deal about the area in which ‘nine out of tens cats prefer ‘ standard of proof is consider an acceptable and even honored way of doing things.

      • While its probably true that 100% of scientists “accept the science on climate change” I agree with Hugs that it is the non-science that we don’t accept. And much of the Climate Change mythology is non-science. And of course Climate Change is beyond question – there used to be 2km of ice above the point where I sit and type right now.
        But public perception is easily manipulated. A couple of years ago a good friend of my wife sent me a three-page “position paper” on environment signed by a bunch of scientists, and asked me if I agreed with it. Some of you may have seen it: it was very carefully worded so that what it actually SAID was true, but it was full of innuendo. Scientists (well physicists anyway) are trained to read exactly what was said, so scientists can agree with the paper. Many non-scientists just read the emotions and don’t understand the details, and interpret our signatures as an endorsement of political initiatives. I thought it was very manipulative. Sorry I can’t sign with my name – would not be fair to my employers. “Boffin”, PhD Theoretical Physics

    • There are several “sources” for the “97%” claim, and Oreskes and Lewandowski can both be dismissed out of hand for illogic and poor methodology.

      The more popular paper, supposedly based on data, is the Doran and Zimmerman “survey” which did NOT ask if respondents (all 79) “believed in the science” of Climate Change; they merely asked if they thought it was warmer today than prior to 1850.

      To imply that that question had ANYTHING to do with “science” is either ignorance or an outright lie. I do not dismiss the possibility that it is both.

      We have to continue to push back on such mis-statements.

  8. Unfortunately, the CAGW monster has reached my local council and they are using new (the sky is falling) terminology (at least, new to me):

    The Mt Barker Council will push for State and national leaders to take action on the global climate change emergency and do more to combat its effect on the environment.

    Clearly we are not on track to limit the temperature increase to 1C-1.4C as promised by higher levels of government

    http://courier.realviewdigital.com/#folio=1

    Idjits spending my rates payments to further the green agenda rather than provide local infrastructure for us who pay for it.

    My response in a Letter to the Editor is brewing.

      • of course.
        they were also the idiots who tied to tax water in private onfarm dams
        dug maintained and saving the rivers water they love to bitch about farmers using
        the idea was to tax by area/depth and allow a palty 10% of that untaxed as animal water.
        they got short shrift but will try again Im sure
        obviously the new flood of yuppie greentards have gotten onto council!
        it was a lovely rual farm area till suburbian nouveau riche mc mansions started popping up.

  9. But the rot in the Warmers grand scheme has already started. The State of Victoria, it has a Green Government and has just had a hot day, normal for this time of the year. So what happens, the renewables did not prevent a blackout in parts of the State.

    South Australia so dar has been lucky, partly from the use of a bank of diasal generaters . Fancy that in such a Green State, having to use dirty diasal power to keep going.

    MJE

  10. Practical Instructions for dispelling the AGW myth:

    Step 1. Inform people there has never been a credible, successful, empirical study undertaken that demonstrates atmospheric CO2 causes the planet to warm.

    They will scoff and cite peer reviewed papers like the Berkeley study

    Step 2. Inform them the between 50% and 70% of all peer reviewed studies cannot be replicated so are worthless according to the Lancet.

    They will scoff and cite the 97% consensus.

    Step 3. Inform them that the consensus was based on ~75 study abstracts carefully selected from ~1,100 studies, no attempt was made to replicate them. Refer back to Step 2.

    They will scoff and announce you are talking rubbish and that you’re just a denier.

    Step 4. Inform them you are anything but, and enjoy the fact that the northern and southern hemispheres will warm slightly, mostly at night releasing billions of acres of land in Canada and Russia alone from permafrost to productive agricultural land. Equatorial regions will barely notice a change.

    They will scoff and announce you are talking rubbish and that extreme weather events have got worse.

    Step 5. Inform them the evidence demonstrates the opposite to be true. There were zero violent tornadoes reported in the US in 2018. Until 2017, the US enjoyed 12 years without a major landfall hurricane.

    They will scoff and announce you are talking rubbish and that you’re just a denier.

    Step 6. Inform them the easiest way to check your claims is to search Duck Duck Go (ideally not Google) for whatever claim they hear but append ‘debunked’ to the search term, if they dare.

    A few will be curious enough to try. The rest just aren’t worth bothering about.

  11. The Australian Psychological Society just proves what I’ve always said, psychology is not a science, it’s just a poorly systemized method attempting to manipulate peoples’ emotions and perceptions.

    Now tell me “how does that make you feel?”.
    Correction don’t bother, I’m not that interested (so that makes me a sociopath?)

  12. “Be clear about the scientific consensus”
    Yes, remind them that a group of left wing nut jobs selected 78 scientists of which 75 (97%) they already knew believed in AGW.

    “Inspire positive visions”
    For example, the tree and vegetation are growing faster, world poverty is at record lows, food production is increasing and population is at a record high. All because it’s warmer and there is more CO2.

    “Use vivid, emotive and personal stories”
    Before the use of fossil fuels, our ancestors suffered misterable lives, barely able to reach the age of 40. Fossil fuels give us rich fertilisers for growing boundful crops, electricity and freon for keeping our produce cold to avoid spoiling. Petrolium to allow cheap and fast travel, even on a global scale. And advances in medicine and healthcare to allow us to live until a ripe old age to spend time with our grandchildren and even great grandchildren that we would have never known otherwise.

    “Make climate change here, now and for sure”
    Yes, the climate is always changing. From the last glacial maximum to the MWP, LIA and now in the modern climate optimum, it’s always been changing and always will.

    “The APS takes an advocacy role with Government ”
    But only with one side of government, which is why we voted for Trump and MUST vote for him again.

    • Yes…every single one of their points is devoid of any connection to reality!

      When psychologists have no grasp of reality, who do they go see to get better?

  13. When one looks closely at the results of psychologists I wonder why anyone would listen to most of them? A leading American psychologist remarked some years ago that many of his patients simply needed a caring friend who was a good listener. The troubled person was enabled to sort out his problem as he thought through it and described it to the friend. No one has more knowledge about the problem and his circumstances than the person with the problem so a stranger’s counsel may be of little value.

    This is also good advice for anyone concerned about the alarming climate claims. Think deeply and reason carefully about climate. Consider the claim: Whether it is very hot or very cold, very wet or very dry, gusting with wind or a long lull in the wind – every event must be because of modern climate change. Yet our ancestors experienced these events a hundred, five hundred, a thousand and more years ago. Instead of becoming panic-stricken they adapted to the changing circumstances and survived – that is why we are all here to tell the tale. And that is why our great grandchildren and their children will probably be around in 2119 to tell the tale – they showed their human ingenuity and adapted.

  14. “The impact of communications on behaviour varies dramatically based on how the communication is developed and delivered.”

    We are told that humans acts result from an instinctive need to minimize contradiction between available and incoming information.

    Which is why an unprepared person can act erratically, panic, take wrong decisions, panic further, kill all souls on board.

    We further learned that intelligence plays a key role in the process as those gifted with it will consent efforts to gather further information and use their abilities to act with logic rather than instinctively.

    Exactly what panic driven climate scammers try to bypass by insisting on the urgency of a favorable to their pretentions decision process.

  15. If this is their view then they are not treating their patients properly, they are unprofessional as hell and should bot be allowed anywhere near anyone who is ill. This is disgraceful and will blow up in their faces as people walk away from psychologists because they cannot be trusted to act in their patients interest,. You would actually almost be better off with an astrologist. .

  16. From the article: “Be clear about the scientific consensus. Research shows that telling people that 97% of scientists accept the science on climate change is very important in terms of increasing public awareness of human-caused climate change and support for climate solutions.”

    Here’s that 97 percent lie again. A very effective piece of propaganda. A case of repeating a lie often enough turns it into the truth in unsuspecting minds.

    This 97 percent claim is obviously a fraud. Anyone who understands how this figure was reached would know that.

    Rather than just saying the 97 percent claim is a lie, we need a new, honest survey of scientists asking them what they really think about the CO2 situation. I’m confident the real “consensus” won’t be anywhere near 97 percent affirming CAGW.

    But we won’t be able to prove it without a new survey.

    The 97 percent lie is an effective propaganda tool. We need to blow it out of the water.

    • Agreed! One way to “blow it out of the water” is to quote exactly what those 75 carefully selected scientists agreed: Namely that it was warmer prior to 1850 than it is today.

      I want to know the names of the 3 Climate Science experts who think it is warmer today than prior to 1850!

      Of course alarmists like Mann or politicians like Obama disingenuously added “dangerous and catastrophic” to the result.

  17. “Use vivid, emotive and personal stories, particularly those that elicit positive emotions – these are more memorable and also a stronger motivator for action.”

  18. We have the same rot in organizations and institutions throughout the world. Very illuminating that the APS finds the need to work closely work government to promote social justice. Meaning keep funding us and we will say whatever you would like us to say. Pathetic.

    In theory these are professional organizations meant to promote their particular field. Long way from that.

  19. From the article: “Make climate change here, now and for sure. Bring climate impacts close to home to show people that climate change is relevant to them, and that it threatens their health, families, communities, jobs or other things they deeply care about. People are more likely to heed risks they see as relevant, personal and salient.”

    Except climate change (CAGW) is NOT here, now and for sure. There is no evidence that CAGW is taking place. If you tell people it is, then you are telling them lies.

    The IPCC and other Alarmists used to say that CO2’s detrimental effects on Earth’s weather would start happening in decades ahead when temperatures were supposed to be much higher than today (2C to 4.5C). The higher temperatures were supposed to be the trigger for unusually extreme weather (CAGW).

    But that’s all changed now. Now, alarmists see CAGW behind every cloud even though the temperatures have not reached the “catastrophic” levels predicted by the IPCC for the future, which would trigger CAGW.

    The Alarmists are so desperate to convince the public of the existence of CAGW that they attribute it to everything they see today. Even though they could not prove their claims if their lives depended on proving them.

    They don’t explain how CAGW can be happening when the temperatures are not unprecedented today and are actually falling now and have been since 2016 (down 0.6C since Feb 2016).

    So now temperatures declining is a cause for CAGW, according to the alarmists’ logic. That’s what they are trying to sell the public.

    The quickest way to expose these lies is to demand the evidence those making these claims used to reach their conclusion. They won’t be able to provide you any evidence because there is no evidence to provide. You will find that out pretty quick if you just ask the alarmists to prove their case. They can’t do it.

    I’ll do that right now: Any and all alarmists are requested to provide the evidence they use to claim that CO2 is affecting Earth’s weather here and now. Shut me down. Make me look bad. You can do that by giving us some evidence. I am confident no evidence will be produced. You could prove me wrong. Go ahead.

    I’m expecting “crickets”.

    • And responders to Tom should note Nancy Pelosi’s admonition:

      ….the plural of anecdote is not data!

    • As I suspected, no evidence has been provided for CAGW by the alarmists. That is because they don’t have any evidence to provide, so they just remain silent. Not even any anectdotal evidence, George! Not a peep out of those guys!

      The alarmists want us to spend $100 TRILLION dollars on this CAGW fantasy! Yet, they can’t even answer a simple question.

  20. From the article: “The APS also advocates on issues where psychology can make a contribution to public debate and policy in the interests of community wellbeing and social justice.”

    Trying to manipulate, in specific directions, the way people think about public policy sounds like a propaganda organ to me.

  21. George Orwell against precisely this. It just took a bit longer than he thought it would. One World. One Government. One Thought. Zero resistance.

  22. In 2006, Tony Blair’s favourite think tank, the Institute for Public Policy Research issued a report called “Warm Words: How are we telling the climate story and can we tell it better?”

    https://www.ippr.org/publications/warm-wordshow-are-we-telling-the-climate-story-and-can-we-tell-it-better

    Treating climate change as beyond argument:

    “Much of the noise in the climate change discourse comes from argument and counter-argument, and it is our recommendation that, at least for popular communications, interested agencies now need to treat the argument as having been won.

    This means simply behaving as if climate change exists and is real, and that individual actions are effective. The ‘facts’ need to be treated as being so taken-for-granted that they need not be spoken.

    The certainty of the Government’s new climate-change slogan – ‘Together this generation will tackle climate change’ (Defra 2006) – gives an example of this approach. It constructs, rather than claims, its own factuality.”

    The strategy has been a success, climate change is indeed treated as beyond argument. “Behaving as if climate change exists” epitomises the media approach, not just the BBC, but globally.

    • “This means simply behaving as if climate change exists and is real, and that individual actions are effective. The ‘facts’ need to be treated as being so taken-for-granted that they need not be spoken.”

      That describes the Alarmist community perfectly. They are pretending CAGW is a fact in hopes of convincing others.

      The problem with this is they don’t have any evidence that shows CAGW is real or even possible.

      The alarmists can pretend all they want. Wishful thinking is not science.

  23. Avoid words like uncertainty, complex, cyclical, natural, and actual data. These are unapproved words.

    • actual data.

      Brexit and fishing quotas:
      According to a PhD on the BBC this morning, Plaice are an endangered species. When challenged by a fisherman on that, the PhD replied that we have no data.

      So, having no data means whatever it is, is at risk and endangered; automatically.

  24. Because the atmosphere and its associated albedo reflect away 30% of the incoming solar energy (like the reflective panel in a car’s windshield) the earth is cooler from the presence of the atmosphere and not warmer per greenhouse theory.

    Because of the large non-radiative heat transfer processes of the atmospheric molecules the surface of the earth cannot radiate as an ideal black body and there is no “extra” energy for the greenhouse gasses to “trap”/absorb/radiate/“warm” the earth.

    No greenhouse effect, no CO2 warming, no man caused climate change.

    No problem.

  25. Some other key points

    Be clear about the scientific consensus. It means nothing.

    Inspire positive visions. Let people know that we already have record yields and harvests. Let them know the positives of global greening.

    Nobody else will…

    Does it mean that greenhouse gas pollution is a good thing? Not really. Increased plant growth can have both positive and negative effects. The obvious effects are clear, such as potential improvements in farming or the increase in carbon sequestration by plants. However, increased growth occurs for both intended and unintended plants – including weeds. This could complicate farming, increase airborne allergens, and perhaps most importantly, change the flow of energy and water across the Earth’s surface in unintended ways.
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2016/jul/15/humans-are-greening-the-planet-but-the-implications-are-complicated

    And yes….

    the authors used computer simulations

  26. #GreenNuclearDeal
    Difficult for Australian society to recover from Climate Derangement Syndrome.
    Best rescue is to convince them that the only realistic way to address CO2 is with nuclear power.

    • That’ll never happen in Australia. After decades of fear mongering nuclear power will never happen, even though Australia, geologically speaking, is probably the best place for it.

  27. Having both a psych and chem. Eng. Degree the arrogance of psychology never fails to amaze me.

    These guys invented the ad-hom Dunning-Kruger and when it comes to climate, technology, engineering and math there is no greater Dunning-Kruger comment than the opinion of a social scientist.

    • If any of you psychology majors, professors or doctorate recipients could post or send me the links to the vast body of climate science papers that show CO2 driving climate change over the history of the Earth, instead of being a weak, following factor, that’d be great.

      Mosher, Nick Stokes, Gavin, Ben Santer, Griff, any of you could send them, too. I just want to be convinced of my impending doom before I agree that modern life needs to be torn down. So please, send me the links. I’m sure they will be as compelling and persuasive to me as they are to you. Okay? That’d be great.

  28. Next up from the climate psychology departments:
    – Sensory deprivation confinement booths, followed by
    – Electro-shock therapy.

  29. So the group who accredited Lew and the subsequent Lew Papers, now attempt to produce their own version?
    Every one of these claims of authority bring to mind that odd observation from Steve McIntyre circa 2008, where he noted the ineptitude and fragility of intellect from these “Leading Climate Scientists”.

    I now believe that the bureau of public educations has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.
    May the mobs rising out of the fog of ignorance,eat them.

  30. Australia is controlled totally by Globalist’s to the point there in no longer any news service we only have an opinion service. Unfortunately the population is too stupid to figure it out. I live here and have actually stopped watching the so called news, it’s pointless.

  31. Okay, I will now use the four key points from the article to offer my helpful contribution to the dialogue:

    Using key point (1):
    97% of scientists accept the science on climate change, which means that 97% of scientists who specifically mentioned human-caused climate-change catastrophe in their published papers were the only scientists recognized. The other 3% of catastrophe-endorsing scientists believed that aliens caused humans to use fossil fuels, which disqualified them from being taken as seriously.

    Using key point (2):
    Even though catastrophic climate change is happening, we have concrete, plausible solutions such as killing off half the human population, switching the remaining humans to vegetarian diets, hooking up the sum total of all Planet-Fitness exercise machines to giant electrical generators, and painting the national highway system a blinding white color.

    Using key point (3):
    While enduring a relentless cascade of rain drops savaged upon me by the unconscionable addiction of old, racist, white males to ancient fossil-fuel-spewed carbon pollution that raises temperatures to the critical point of producing torrential precipitation, I happened upon a baby unicorn who revealed to me a plan to spread wind and solar power all across the land, to end such environmental scourges and to usher in a new day for all humanity’s children.

    Using key point (4):
    Just an hour ago, a wildfire started in my backyard, which would not have happened if climate change had not made the weather so dry that leaves burned more easily and so wet that I could not get out to rake the leaves beforehand. A week ago, a hurricane leveled my beach condo that I built in a zone with a known 100% strike rate from even modest-intensity hurricane landfalls. Clearly such recent events and others like them threaten more people than ever before, because I have witnessed my own hardships firsthand, which proves that climate-change threats to EVERYONE are real.

  32. The APS overlooked one important point.
    If your desire is to persuade then what you are saying must make sense.

  33. Properganda did not start with the clever Dr. Gobbles. The Churches worked out a very long time that to tell the same story over and over again. They were helped of course by the fact that most people could not re ad or write, so the once a week attendance at Church was when they were told from the pulpet what the King or Queen was doing, and what they had to do to keep things going. Including of course the payment of the Tithe, a 10 % payment to the Church.

    This worked very well for about 1600 years , then we had the Reformation””,i.e. to reform. Martin Luther , a good monk from Germany started it off by his shock during a visit to Rome, to find that the Vatican was not doing what it was soposed to be doing.

    He called a meeting of fellow senior monks to discuss things, the Church back in Rome overacted and the rest is as they say, is History.

    Look at the USA constitution. “These truths are self evident” Now just what does that mean, sounds a bit like “Do as you are told, we are the new government”.

    We have a group who using a lot of Useful idiots, and with the Media on side, has caused a number of politicians that even if they they do not believe n Global Warming or its offshoot Climate Change, they had better join up to the new thing and it will help you the to rise up in the ranks of the political system.
    I myself consider it to be just another version of Communsm, after call the word means for the greater good. It sounds wonderful, but all such attempt s have failed. The Cabutzas of Israel are a good example, its against human nature to all work for the common good.

    We need someone a bi like Trump. He s a b bit crude, but says it like it is. I just hope that he is given a second term, enough time to completely change the thinking of the various agencies that the USA has, and tell people the facts.

    But he has a giant sized job to beat the properganda of of the Greens, I just hope, at least in the short term that it gets colder. Failing that then it a case of waiting for the lights to go out.

    MJE

  34. “a topic like climate change that is complex, confusing, uncertain, sometimes overwhelming, and often emotionally and politically loaded”

    It’s kind of hard to square that phrase with claims of a 97% consensus.

  35. What’s needed is a manual on how to deprogram normal people infected with toxic climate alarmist propaganda. Every morning when I get up I thank god I’m a jaded, cynical, skeptical, obnoxious, miserable SOB. My philosophy comes straight from bad guy pro wrestlers and the world would be a much better place if more people could be the same.

    How do we save sensitive, caring people from the climate alarmist BS, my suggestion is a beating. A cruel beating, an organic beating, an all natural holistic beating. The kind of beating that brings smiles to children’s faces everywhere. A Liberal is a Conservative who hasn’t been mugged yet, mug them. Turn them from Elves into Orcs. Pummel them with cold hard facts and ridicule, repeat as required.

  36. To add to my comments about the Church. When thy went to Church, and they had to, what did they see. The beautiful stained glass windows, it was a preview of what Heaven looked like. So off you go, do as you are told, work hard for your betters, and you too will go to Heaven.

    Its powerful l stuff to the poorly educated labourers back then.

    MJE

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