Sometimes, something is just so over-the-top stupid, that you have to disappear it. That’s what has happened to Democratic Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, with her “New Green Deal”, which made “greenhouse gas reductions” down to ZERO the centerpiece of her policy. It was so ridiculous, so embarrassingly bad, that it had to be disappeared:
Fortunately, the Internet never forgets:
The now disappeared FAQ on AOC’s House.gov website stated that the program will:
“We set a goal to get to net-zero, rather than zero emissions, in 10 years because we aren’t sure that we’ll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that fast.”
The FAQ, which Ocasio-Cortez’s office removed from her website amid online backlash (although it is still available on NPR’s website) additionally stated:
IPCC Report said global emissions must be cut by by 40-60% by 2030. US is 20% of total emissions. We must get to 0 by 2030 and lead the world in a global Green New Deal.
“This is a massive transformation of our society with clear goals and a timeline” at a “scale not seen since World War 2.”
Let. that. sink. in.
But then, there’s this gem:
Economic security for all who are unable or unwilling to work
Riiiiight. All the templates of a wealth redistribution scheme, right there.
Of course, she’s been excoriated, and rightfully so, from both sides.
The stupid in this case, it burns white-hot like a magnesium fire.
But maybe it doesn’t matter, because after-all, according to AOC, the world will end in 12 years anyway.
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The Internet Never Forgets. Here are two more places you get AOC’s gem:
The Web Archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190207191119/https://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/media/blog-posts/green-new-deal-faq
and:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5729035/Green-New-Deal-FAQ.pdf
Anthony: I think you should put this document up on WWUT permanently. At some point NPR is going to disappear it when it receives orders from the Central Committee.
WOW!! Utopia is Soooo easy. Let’s do it !!
What could go wrong?
Never underestimate the ability to buy votes. Here in Oz we have compulsory voting and more than half of our population now get some or all of their income from the government. A recipe for disaster. AOC and her ilk cant rely on forcing people to the polls but she may be able to persuade them through the free money offer to people unable or unwilling to work.
That’s why BIG government always runs out of real money and has to replace it with a fiat currency. That’s why BIG government is like a cancer. There are no good cancers.
NPR thinks that AOC is the second coming. I’m sure they’ll back her all the way.
Huh? Are you saying that NPR isn’t … fair? and balanced? and objective? as they claim? We wouldn’t be spending PUBLIC taxpayer $$$$$ for a media propaganda outlet would we? Shocked I tell you … shocked!
It’s disturbing that so many of those running for the Democratic nomination in 2020 are buying in to the green nonsense driven by the fear of CO2 emissions. If what passes for climate science isn’t corrected before a Democrat eventually returns to the Whitehouse, the economy is doomed, especially if they were to gain full control Congress.
David Hockett, Cornell Professor and advisor to AOC, She Guevara, made the following statement on Tucker Carlson’s Friday program;
In a head-turning moment heard around the Internet, Hockett replied flatly, “Uh, we never would, right? And AOC has never said anything like that, right? I think you’re referring to some sort of document — I think some doctored document that somebody other than us has been circulating. … She’s actually tweeted it out to laugh at it, if you look at her latest tweets. It seems apparently, some Republicans have put it out there. I don’t know the details.”
So nowwwwww … that She Guevara has been thoroughly mocked and ridiculed for her CIVILIZATION-ENDING idiotic “Green New Deal” … her spokespeople are saying that her entire speech and “New Deal” were “hacked” … by some Republicans … to make her look … STUPID. OMG! The eco-LEFT are quite literally INSANE! They’ve NO grip on reality, or how our world ACTUALLY works. smh
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-adviser-admits-he-falsely-claimed-green-new-deal-didnt-promise-security-for-those-unwilling-to-work
The Green New Deal FAQ has been declared FAQ news.
–Bad News
Exactly how does the Green New Deal plan on stopping the production of cow farts?
No more cows.
Which will take a little longer than replacing every vehicle, and every building, and building a new grid, and making half a million wind turbines, and a few hundred thousand utility scale solar installations, and connecting every city by HSR.
Hell, the no more cheese and hence no more pizza aspect would cause nationwide riots all by itself, let alone no more burgers or steak.
Last week a woman froze to death in her own home, a young woman, after her thermostat malfunctioned…and they want to get rid of all the fuel we use for heating and farming and transportation?
She will be lynched the day everyone finds out that cell phone parts need petroleum.
If only all the pictures of Naomi Oreskes were disappeared. The world would be a better place without a doubt, even with all the merchants of cow farts.
Amazingly, she is far uglier on the inside than on the outside.
And a very difficult task to achieve that indeed.
The Green New Deal FAQ has been declared FAQ news.
–Bad News
This is like the push to use palm oil for bio fuel. The consequences of mining all of the metals required and the issue of what to do with the hundreds of thousands of tons of waste will be left for some later generations to deal with.
“single-payer health care, a national tuition-free college program, a promise to provide every American with ‘healthy food,’ a national basic income program, a universal promise for housing and ‘economic security,’ and a plan to ‘upgrade’ every single building in the country, including every American’s home.“
I love all of that. It neednt drive up the national debt though. Simply create the money without taxes or borrowing, taxing only as needed to control inflation, using the countries vast natural assets as reserves to back the country (land, energy, water, food, minerals, forests)
Go back and formalize a new Bretton Woods to fix currencies exchange rates based on agreement for currency creation as a percentage of each nations proven resources
As for elimination of carbon based energy. Pure hogwash. Focus on infrastructure development and manufacturing the things we use to avoid too many imports. That goal is thrown in there to enforce more austerity measures and controls. Its a trap and the rest is bait. Keep the bait and avoid the trap.
Been there. Survived. Not eager to repeat the experience.
Every good socialist knows that the rich have 100s of trillions of dollars just sitting around, unused.
We know what happened the last time someone in government decided to choose a healthy menu for everyone: Michelle Obama somehow took control of the food every school kid in the country got fed, and from what I heard, the vast majority of it went straight into the garbage can.
Right now the only people who cannot walk to a store and get any food in the world on every day of the year for an amount affordable on the minimum wage, are those who choose to live in the middle of nowhere.
The only food crisis is that people eat what they like, not what may be best for them.
And then they eat too much of it.
Try talking that away Alexandria…I double dog dare you.
If they try to force the same nonsense on adults, levels of civil disobedience will reach record proportions.
Yup.
Before the ink was dry.
If only all socialists would go AWOL
Whoa, sturdy beggars are great again.
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Yes, the “Green New Deal” is laughable, but I’ve nevertheless been bothered that its underlying premise — that if we could go to 100% renewables, it would “save” the climate — seems not to be questioned much (even on Fox News!).
So, in frustration, I made my own video titled “DRC discusses problems with the “Green New Deal” and posted it yesterday: https://youtu.be/B0n_53P81Mk
If any of you care to watch my rambling screed, I would appreciate your comments — thanks!
Thanks Deborah…that was really good and spot on….I think we’ve all on the same page with this
….funny about your fusion joke….it won’t work until it’s economically feasible…..unlike all this other mess
Good questions and commentary. Cheers
Everyone here except Ivan and Griff know it would make no difference, it purports to solve a problem that does not exist, and renewables are not just expensive but an almost purely useless waste of money.
In the shock of hearing about this ridiculous nonsense, people reacted to the details of the plan, rather than why we do not need any such plan.
I talk about this sort of thing all the time, because even a few years ago it was not brought up: Even if the globe is warming and will keep doing so, it is not a problem, it is a blessing.
So is more CO2…it is all good.
I used to talk about this 10 and 15 and 20 years ago, but in the forums I was discussing stuff on back in those days, such details got almost zero traction.
No one responded.
So, we tend to take up arguments where they are, rather than where we think they should be.
Tony Heller put out a new video last night.
At the end he urges everyone to write letters and call our elected representatives and tell them we want the entire climate scam defunded.
We do not want to even talk about it any more…it is made-up bunkum, top to bottom, left to right, front to back.
Ten years ago, I think we got close to that, but then Obama was elected, and he directed that every federal budget dollar spent have apportioning in it to address climate change at every level and every agency.
And here we are.
The warmistas should be out of business and looking over their shoulders for malfeasance prosecutions, but instead they still seem to own the direction of the conversation, and have responded to every falsification and failed prediction by doubling down on the urgency and cries of doom.
Nothing unusual is occurring with weather, fires, floods, droughts, heat waves, sea level…none of it.
The sky is blue, grass is green, plants and trees are growing, birds and bees are atwitter and abuzz…but millions and millions of people talk about the ongoing disasters right before our eyes!
The climate crisis that is even now consuming the globe in ruin.
No one can point to it, but they know it is there.
They cannot quote evidence, but know that only deniers doubt “the science”, that every actual scientist in the world knows full well has been proven.
They are brainwashed, and unreachable.
When anyone figures out how to deprogram these deluded nitwits, let me know.
So, with the Green New Deal, there will be government money given to all of those who are put out of work by the elimination of airlines, rail (yeah rail), auto and trucking, heavy manufacturing, etc. If everybody is given money for not working, who will make stuff for us to buy?
She is emblematic of a mindless movement that, regrettably, has proliferated western civilization – in major part because the movement has been allowed to proliferate academia, which is paving its future.
A cutting analysis of the ignorance and hypocrisy – BRILLIANT:
https://youtu.be/s85fHq1bCnc
I think a Democrat Good Cop/Bad Cop strategy is starting to emerge. You have two wings of the party. One is the bat-crap off-the-edge-the-earth crazy ultimate left. These are the committed socialists and communists, the foot soldiers, the sign wavers, the true believers, and the merely insane. For them, facts and common sense are merely words to be ignored or twisted.. Their ideal is the ultimate socialist paradise, where everyone is equally upper-middle class, nobody has to work too hard (or at all), the world is optimally powered by cheap and abundant energy that comes from somewhere not dirty (and not yet invented) and is natural, etc. etc., and everybody everywhere grasps the ultimate truth of any political positions the anointed put forward. They are totally out of control, even from their own party. Lets call them the Bad Cops.
Then we have the other wing (for the purposes of this illustration only, we’ll call them the Good Cops), the traditional bare-knuckles we-must-rule democrats, who will (as always) lie, cheat and steal, and project all their hatred, their racism, and their eugenics policies onto their hated Republican opponents. Their weapons are such as voter fraud, bribery, and corruption of federal agencies (IRS, Justice, FBI, etc.) Until the rise of the Bad Cops, they were considered extremists—as they were and still are.
How then to made themselves look Good? How to appear middle-of-the-road and reasonable and thus con independents into voting for their left-wing policies? By inventing something even further to their left that is at once both terrifying and laughable, so obviously Bad that only insane people support it. Presto! Arise Bad Cops!
It’s brilliant! How do you convince people to spend hundreds of billions of dollars to fight the long-term effects of man-made climate change, a classic Good Cop position that is running out of steam? You have your Bad Cop others DEMAND that we spend multiple TRILLIONS of dollars RIGHT NOW else we all die in 10 (or 12, or whatever) years.
How do you, as a Good Cop, convince people to allow the imposition of a carbon tax that will severely cripple the US economy for no real benefit, while generating political good will by rebating a chunk of those tax proceeds to potential voters? Simple. Have your Bad Cop wing outlaw cars, airplanes, and all internal combustion engines. Totally unworkable, right? Something there for everybody to hate. Now the Good Cops’ crazy tax sounds better, moderate even. And we can still fly our private jets to Davos.
The Republicans will wear themselves out rope-a-doping the Bad Cops, whom everybody knows are crazy anyway. The Good Cops will do some of that too, just to put some space between the Democrat Party wings and sound more reasonable.
How do you make a poop sandwich sound palatable? Offer poop without the bread as the only alternative.
secryn February 10, 2019 at 2:59 pm
Sorry no. This is a nightmare for the Dems. They have to distance themselves from the nut jobs without refuting their dogma. The Rnc will be zeroing on AOC and Bernie. Toss in Warren for laughs and giggles, thus the so called reasonable candidates will never be heard. The media is entertainment, and we are in for a three way food fight.
michael
We may laugh at her, but she has an angle and she knows how to use it!!
I can’t say I’m not impressed by this, but I can say I’m not impressed by her Green New Deal.
She’s obviously smart about how politicians enrich themselves, but she’s scientifically illiterate.
She is a sock puppet. She has never written a word of this stuff.
We have seen her on TV, and what she thinks she knows and how she sounds when asked real question in a live format.
“I am not the big expert on this stuff!”
So she just described BIG government and she wants to make it even BIGGER. What could go wrong.
That’s why all high ranking politicians from whatever color belong to the hated 1%. The only difference is they became rich because of being corrupt and not hard work.
But she’s asking reps from Common Cause, Institute for Free Speech, Brennan Center for Justice about the penalties for her being a “bad guy”. All of whom are always saying politicians can get away with anything they want to because it is a good meme for fundraising. I’m pretty sure if she asks the same questions to the FBI, they know how to put her in jail for those same activities.
Here’s my concern Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has been put up as a stalking horse……maybe in two ways.
1.When such extremes are put forward other policies which might have been seen as ridiculous seem more reasonable and thus get through.
2.While she is getting all the attention other bits of legislation are allowed to slip through unnoticed.
Hyphen has published a list of goals free of methods and details. Any who object will be labelled anti- environment polluters. It’s a no-lose proposition. And we’re talking about her, so she wins. She may be as dumb as POTUS.
The Green Deal is terrific! All liberals, greens, Democrats, socialists and Griff should immediately reduce their carbon footprint to zero. Immediately. This means no more exhaling any CO2. Any. At all. Lead by example and all that, wot?
A pilot scheme that uses the people who thought it was a good idea is the way to go. Nothing that utilises carbon in its manufacture or transport could be used by these twits (someone who uses twitter) for the say, 6 month long, pilot. They can report on how they managed at the end of that time.
Her view of how to bring about economic stability to the masses is as close as you can get to slavery without actually carrying around your hanging noose for those that won’t play along. Socialism results in a codified class system designed to put people in their assigned places and keep them there. In another time and place, it is exactly the same system Democrats tried to impose on the rest of what would become the 50 states, District of Columbia, and territories. The Civil War erupted in full flames, led by a Republican convinced that such an imposed class system was antithema to the spirit of our original Declaration of Independence and our constitution: That all (hu)men are created equal and are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit [but not guarantee] of happiness.
That so many people who identify as “black” support this idiotic woman’s notions is mind boggling. Are they so far removed from the long and very real struggle for freedom that they no longer recognize what class slavery looks like? God forbid that these people actually want to be fed, diapered, and shacked in exchange for an imposed class system and assigned duties.
Pamela Grey says, “In another time and place, it is exactly the same system Democrats tried to impose on the rest of what would become the 50 states, District of Columbia, and territories. The Civil War erupted in full flames, led by a Republican convinced that such an imposed class system was antithema to the spirit of our original Declaration of Independence and our constitution: That all (hu)men are created equal and are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit [but not guarantee] of happiness.”
And what a coincidence that Democrats are very busy in city halls, banning the Pledge of Allegiance to the Union Flag. According to their true colors and origins.
Just a heads up. My just-sent comment had more than a few flag words in it.
Pamela
It only took two minutes for your comment to show up. You must have special privileges! 🙂
IIRC AOC is connected with the Jacobin Magazine a far left socialist group. Guess who brought the Terror to the French revolution? They aren’t even trying to hide what they really intend, just obscure it with smoke and mirrors before the real terror begins once they have power. Worked in Cuba, Russia, Venezuela, etc.
And if you think that’s hyperbole, read this:
It’s Time to Try Fossil-Fuel Executives for Crimes Against Humanity
I’m not sure which is scarier, the Plan or the back step to run silent, run deep with it till the reins of power are in reckless hands.
Economic security for all who are unable or unwilling to work…
TRUTH AT LAST! Some of us have to work up to 7 days a week just to keep a job and have never had economic security…the new deal is the old deal………….