DOOM! “…the world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change” says Ocasio-Cortez

From the “anything goes when the media regurgitates every word you say” department comes this latest insanity from a woman who isn’t making any points among thinking people. Of course, we’ve heard these sorts of doomsday forecasts before, notably from doomster Al Gore who also said we have 12 years.

Excerpt transcript and video follows.

OCASIO-CORTEZ:

“And I think the part of it that is generational is that millennials and people, in gen z, and all these folks that come after us are looking up and we’re like, the world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change. You’re biggest issue, your biggest issue is how are going to pay for it? — and like this is the war, this is our world war II.

And I think for younger people looking at this are more like, how are we saying let’s take it easy when 3000 Americans died last year, how are we saying let’s take it easy when the end person died from our cruel and unjust criminal justice system? How are we saying take it easy, the America that we’re living in today is dystopian with people sleeping in their cars so they can work a second job without healthcare and we’re told to settle down. It’s a fundamental separation between that fierce urgency of now, the why we can’t wait that King spoke of.

That at some point this chronic reality do reach a breaking point and I think for our generation it reached that, I wished I didn’t have to be doing every post, but sometimes I just feel like people aren’t being held accountable. Until, we start pitching in and holding people accountable, I’m just gonna let them have it.”

Source: https://grabien.com/story.php?id=218167

Yeah, whatever.

UPDATE:

 

309 thoughts on “DOOM! “…the world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change” says Ocasio-Cortez

  1. AOC somehow reminds me of the Frank Zappa cut “Valley Girl”. She could be doing a consciously planned game on the public, but keeping up the parody will be difficult.

      • I listened to here and I’m like: occasional cortex ? Nah, I doubt it.

        I doubt she could cite one climate fact and back it up with data.

        Great dances though.

          • And I think for younger people looking at this are more like, how are we saying let’s take it easy when 3000 Americans died last year

            News flash…
            in the USA, 2.7m people died in 2016 and 2.8m in 2017. Statistically it should be at or near 3m in 2018 so which 0.1% is the 3000 she is referring to?

        • Like, it’s like, her eddication in the like, public schools or something. As if….

          Like, she’s like kind of like, like a champagne bottle, like, if you like pop the cork, she’ll like foam over, but if you like leave the like cork out of the like bottle, it like goes like flat.

          Writing that made my sinuses hurt. I need a pack of tissues now.

        • Don’t know, but probably so, unfortunately. Everyone seems to have their political agendas that short circuit rational discussion.

        • So it’s become part of the mainstream media then?

          Weird, because it often says the opposite of what pretty much the entire MSM pumps out for the Groupthink Braindead, scarfed to death of having a different thought about anything.

        • I suppose you oughta know what it’s like to outsource your mind to an echo chamber to tow the party line.

        • You mean as opposed to Yahoo? Google? Twitter? Facebook? The AP? Pretty much every friggin’ mainstream outlet?

          And Grift complains about Breitbart – most likely because he got slapped there.

        • Interesting, I see opposing views all the time there.
          What did you do to get banned?
          My guess, not banned, just afraid to post.

      • And this woman is the new darling of the left.

        Any predictions on what she’ll say in 12 years, when we’re all still here?

        • An announcement of her run for president? Because she had to… Like wait for the like age limit thing we because like something called the Constipation or like something…
          (Gee that DOES hurt)

      • Fair go though, she’s undeniably, like, got a few ‘roos loose in, like, the top paddock and we’re all, like, “what-evah” but there are people, who, like, voted for occasional cortex, aka nostradumbarse.
        Quoting Obi-Wan Kenobi from the original Star Wars; “Who’s the bigger fool, the fool or the fool who follows (her)?”
        Maybe I’m being optimistic but perhaps one term of Occassional Cortex is, like, the proverbial cold shower that the New York electorate, like, needs?
        …but then as George Carlin eloquently put it; “think of how stupid the average person is, and then remember that half the people are stupider than that!”

        • Her constituency will elect anything that occupies the Democrat line in the election booth. She has lifetime tenure if she wants it.

          She will only leave the scene when:
          1. She gets tired of it. Right, just like “Stretch” Pelosi.
          2. She exceeds her allotted “threescore and ten” and shuffles off this mortal coil.
          3. Variation on “2.”, she walks in front of a moving vehicle. We should be so lucky.

          • she’s at three score and 18 now (Surpassing Ted Kennedy when he clocked out) and fastly approaching 4 score

    • She reminds me of Proverbs 11:22. The word typically translated discretion there means judgment, i.e., good sense.

          • I keep hearing how beautiful she is, sorry, if I ran into her in a club or bar I would have nothing to do with her, she has the crazy eyes going on. And if you listen to her for a few minutes it is confirmed. Contaminated water often has pretty colors in it, does not mean I am going to drink it.

          • Every person has their own perception of beauty. I’ve known guys who like big women, and I’ve known guys who like them trim. I like ’em trim. I think she’s beautiful, and I think most guys would give their left nut (so to speak) to have a woman that attractive. Trust me. That’s 99% of her appeal.

          • There are two typical photos of her.
            1. The one with the Big Eyes. There was a movie called Big Eyes, about the artist who painted waifs and others with Big Eyes. The puppy eyes look. I’m guessing that this is the one which some call beautiful.
            2. The other one, when she opens her mouth and shows her vampire teeth, surrounded by blood red lips. And looks emancipated. Starving vampires are bad enough, but then she speaks!!!

            Looks are superficial, and what she says is superficial.

          • Beautiful? well beauty is in the eye of the beer holder and I’d need to neck an awful lot of beers before I could intoxicate myself sufficiently to tolerate the stream of insufferable bovine excreta pouring from her mouth and get close enough to contemplate any skin deep aesthetic qualities.
            If one chose to be charitable, one could concede that she’s not entirely got the look of the north end of a south-bound cow, but ‘beauty’ isn’t a superlative that comes rapidly to mind as long as her lips are moving and exposing the crap inside her head.

          • Erny, bovine excreta is actually quite a wonderful substance. Please don’t compare her ideas to it. Her ideas are more like cadmium in drinking water.

          • And looks emancipated.

            I guess you mean emaciated. She’s probably emancipated too with her Congress salary.

      • There’s also a quote, attributed to a number of people:

        Better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt.

        • There is an internet meme floating about that depicts AOC with the caption:
          “Single Handedly Redefining Dumb Blond Jokes Everywhere”

        • Isn’t this saying reversible?
          Similar to the conversation in a cartoon:
          – It’s better to have ten birds on the tree than one in your hand.
          – I think you have that backwards, mate.
          – Have you ever held a bird in your hand?
          – No.
          – Then shut up!

          I was a bit surprised to see this nonsense posted, and I read it only because apparently Anthony Watts did not see it as a loss of time. Perhaps some comments will make it worth the effort. For instance, the Pentagon announcement mentioned below, a much worse menace – although the forecast covered 20 (twenty) years!
          .-

    • “but keeping up the parody will be difficult”

      Poe’s Law —
      “Good thing you included the winky. Otherwise people might think you are serious”
      “Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a [whatever] in such a way that someone won’t mistake for the genuine article”
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law

      • Being an old-timer who actually wrote web pages with a text editor and HTML, I favor the use of “”

  2. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. — Pitt the Younger, 1783.

    Seems apropos.

    • Shame on your greed, shame on your wicked schemes
      I’ll say this, I don’t give a damn about your dreams.

      Bob Dylan – Thunder on 5he mountain

    • If CO2 really is the problem why would you want it in 1783 Little Ice Age levels? What was so great about that period? Skating on the Thames?

  3. I remember being told this long before she was even born. And yet we somehow managed to survive long enough for her to get into Congress.

      • “Besides, her 100% renewables by 2035 is 4 years too late.”

        Not to mention that it’s completely unrealistic. We aren’t going to give up our powerplants, Rep. Ocasio.

    • John the Econ

      It’s worse than even she thinks though. We only have a year left according to the Pentagon, no less.

      Now the Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us

      Secret report warns of rioting and nuclear war
      · Britain will be ‘Siberian’ in less than 20 years
      · Threat to the world is greater than terrorism

      Climate change over the next 20 years could result in a global catastrophe costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters..

      A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a ‘Siberian’ climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.

      I swear it’s true cos it was published in the Guardian Sun 22 Feb 2004 01.33 GMT First published on Sun 22 Feb 2004 01.33 GMT.

      WE ONLY HAVE ONE YEAR LEFT TO LIVE

      https://tinyurl.com/ybqezeom

      • So Britain will have a Siberian climate by 2020? That’s next year.
        Still, I must admit it’s been quite chilly the last few days…
        And European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas next year? Thank goodness for Brexit!
        Chris

  4. If what she says about the world ending is true (or if she really believes it), why is she worried about 3,000 people dying, the criminal justice system or people sleeping in cars? Surely if we were dealing with the end of the world within 12 years, she’d be advocating full survival mode and advocating things like the United States committing to a policy of unilateral carbon reduction by nuking every nation into the stone age that it regards as unfit to survive.

    If you think that it’s the end of the world, act like it.

      • With her woolly thinking and lack of knowledge, it is clear why she chose politics rather than a serious subject like engineering.
        Do we know if she has any understanding about science matters at all?

          • “She certainly doesn’t have much understanding of how to use the English language!”

            Like, totally!

        • “her woolly thinking”

          That’s a good description. Ocasio thinks she is a little bit smarter than she really is. She makes up for her lack of factual knowledge by being sure of herself, which gives some people the impression that she is knowledgeable. Being sure of oneself doesn’t change the facts.

        • Her degree is in International Relations and Economics from Boston University. Doesn’t say much for their program that she can’t identify the major economic drivers of international affairs. Saw her in an interview and she has absolutely none of the facts of those fields at her easy grasp.

    • “if you think CACA is real, act like it.”

      – We don’t have time for government shutdowns. Just build the stupid wall and get on with it.
      – It is more energy efficient to live in Mexico than in the US, anyway. No heating and shorter distances. So it’s better for the climate if they stay there.
      – LGBTPQRST? I don’t care what you do in your own bedroom, as long as it harms non. Just don’t bother me with it.
      – Welfare? We have a bicycle taxi in need of a driver. A lot better for the climate and you can put your spawn in the front basket until it is old enough for school.
      – Universal healthcare? Sure, but we will decide if that treatment is cost effective. Out of a job or just old? Good luck! The world is going to end, we have no time for your snivels and aches.
      – NY and Chicago get too cold in winter. We need to abandon those cities and disperse the population to a mild climate. Costa Rica is nice, this time of year.
      – If your job is not related to agriculture or mining, why are you living in snow country? Time to move!

      • We will forever be in that Goldilocks Zone where we will be forever failing to do enough. Things won’t be so serious that we’ll need to build nuclear power plants, but we will need more wind turbines. Things will be serious enough that have to raise taxes, but we can still afford to give money to poor countries in hot climates (who will spend it electricity and air conditioners). And we’ll need MORE turbines net year because last year nobody met whatever their commitments were.

        • “who will spend it electricity and air conditioners”

          No, their corrupt leaders will spend it on their own worldly desires.

        • And we’ll need MORE turbines net year because last year nobody met whatever their commitments were.”

          and a corollary: “We’ll need MORE turbines and solar panels because Steyer told me so.”

      • Are these extreme measures something you and others would be willing to follow? You are suggesting action items that would likely get shot down right away.

    • If advocates of radical action really believed the nonsense they are spewing about the immediate urgency, why are they not calling for an end to large scale wind and solar power in favor of nuclear power plants?

      • Yeah, why aren’t they clamoring for China and India to stop burning coal if they are so worried about the CO2 Doomsday coming in 12 years?

      • The astonishing cost of nuclear and the time it takes to build it? See UK’s Hinkley Point and all similar EDF reactor designs.

        Then there’s the never provided for massive cost of decommissioning (again, see EDF and French nuclear industry).

        • How long does it take to clear cut 50 forests in North America for pellets to burn in UK boilers?

        • Leftists do everything in their power to make nuclear power costly and time consuming to build.
          Then they proclaim that the reason we should ignore nuclear power is because it’s too costly and time consuming.

          If liberals didn’t have hypocrisy, they wouldn’t have anything.

        • Oh Griff, what a cock of crap! If people really believed CO2 was the control the ONLY answer currently feasible is nuclear. Period. This is proof positive beyond any shadow of a doubt that AGW is political and not scientific! What cost for the lunacy of windmills torturing our world??

        • “….See UK’s Hinkley Point and all similar EDF reactor designs…..again, see EDF and French nuclear industry)…”
          Griff:
          Instead of parroting party lines try thinking for yourself for a change…. it might earn you some credibility!
          Cheers
          Mike

          • Mike? You have made a fundamental error, you “assume” griffie “thinks”. Please refrain from doing so again. Ever. It simply regurgitates the sh*t it is fed by it’s handlers. They don’t even trust it to cut&paste, instead feeding it crap directly. Rather sad, actually. It’s mommy is so ashamed.

      • They do believe the nonsense, they just have no interest in actually making sure proper stuff is done. It’s like the plastics idiocy: we can show that the problem is recycling (over 50% of plastics in the ocean come from a handful of rivers in Asia and Africa) and abandoned fishing gear, but still we ban straws and single-use bags in favour of things that harm the environment more.

        These children don’t want to actually think and analyse and take tough decisions, they want to be bright and shiny and hopey and wokey. It’s all about them, not the problem.

    • “If you think that it’s the end of the world, act like it.”

      You mean, like AOC should demand the world build a big rocket to take 1,000 selected humans to “sister Earth” . . . you know, the carbon copy of Earth (but without humans) that orbits always on the opposite side of the Sun from Earth prime, so that most scientists—and especially astronomers—have not yet discovered that it exists?

      Let’s go for it! Time is critical.

  5. I wrote this as a letter to the editor but my paper won’t print it.

    “We are fighting for the future of the planet”
    Senator Bernie Sanders at a recent Climate Change Town Hall Meeting

    The urge to fight climate change is being raised to a fever pitch in Washington. The notion presumes that we have caused some adverse changes to the earth’s climate systems and can remove or mitigate the unwanted changes. Here are some valid questions that must be answered for new climate change fighting policies to be effective either financially of environmentally:
    1)What are the unwanted aspects of our climates that we have caused and wish to remove?
    2)What did we do to cause these conditions and can we undo what we did?
    3)If we can, what will it cost to undo them and will other things be effected by the new policy to accomplish that?
    4)What is the value of removing the unwanted climate conditions? (Compare answers 3 and 4)
    5)How will we know if our climate fighting policy is successful?
    6)Who has the authority or ability to enact and enforce the policy devised in the answers to question 2 and5?
    7)Who has the right to disagree with any of the answers to questions 1-5 and oppose the winner of #6?
    This is a rational list of questions that any politician desiring to fight climate change should closely consider on the way to the battle. Further, it is a reasonable set of questions for which any citizen faced with an expensive and disruptive policy should demand answers.

    I don’t this lay has even tried to address these questions.

  6. The real question is what kind of mindset votes for this Occasional Cortex. The left wants us all dead!… but insist on forced flu shots and mandatory health care…but want the guns confiscated except for the ones the government can use on us but….but….want to save us from the climate but …Please! someone develop a vaccine for the left’s hypocrisy disease. lol

  7. And yet the on-going, partial US government shutdown (which is an existential crisis if it’s your paycheck foregone now for +31 days), Miss AOC is fully committed to resisting Trump. Yet she does not consider what her support of Ms Pelosi’s raging TDS means for the future of her party or its pursuit of power. The tide is turning against Democrats. And they don’t see it coming. They never see it coming until it has washed past them.

    Ms AOC is demonstrably a willfully un-informed, most ignorant example of what the Millennials offer. She has zero critical thought. Despite a BA in economics, she has clearly demonstrated she does not understand even basic working economics of what she proposes. Even many Left talking head commentators have critically critiqued her lack of economic IQ.

    And yet somehow Ms AOC knows about Climate Change and the destructive economics those behind it propose?

    And it is her generation that will bear the brunt of harm of that stupidity in coming decades of lost prosperity if those fake Climate Change economic policies come to pass on the West’s economies. Her generation will ultimately have a special place in their hatred for her likes.

    =====
    My thoughts on this:
    If you think about where today’s society places yesterday’s Vietnam War veterans and the hippies who spat upon them on their return in airports in the early 1970’s and today. Which is now revered? Which is forgotten or even scorned?
    And Jane Fonda is still and always will be Hanoi Jane, the ATB.

    So today, AOC is in her limelight. She is enjoying her own “Hanoi Jane” years. But make no mistake, she is a Useful Idiot for the Socialist-Marxists, if there ever was one, just like Jane.

    And one day too she will be the Millenials’ own “ATB” when they realize what she represented.

    • Following everything you say except for traitor. I suppose “democratic socialism” is antithetical to our representative government, but traitorous?

      • Do you not think Ms AOC wouldn’t also dutifully line-up a ZSU 2-57 AAA gunsight on a US military aircraft if she thought it was in the name of her Climate crusade?
        Just as a young Hanoi Jane did in 1972. Young minds as hers are easily manipulated. It took 40 years for the original ATB to apologize to the Vietnam War veterans for her traitorous act.

    • As a personal note:
      Almost 16 years later, I still remember coming back as young USAF Major in my military flight suit with helmet bag in hand, through the Philly Airport and then DFW airport in May 2002 after 5 months supporting Operations in Afghanistan. People randomly stopped me and thanked me. The USO operations at Rhein-Mein AB in German before my flight to Philly was amazing with the people there supporting troops coming and going to/from the AORs of the Persian Gulf and AFG.
      Being away from the US for those months after 9/11, I had not really seen the transformation that occurred in the US after 9/11.
      I was new young Captain in my Air Force Special Operations squadron in 1992 and I saw “Hanoi Jane ATB” target stickers in the urinals of the Men’s room. Then I realized that the older guys (O’s and E’s) from Vietnam era of Special Ops were still around in my squadron, retirement-ready hold-overs from an almost forgotten time.
      Memories like that are hard to forget. Some should be, but some should not be.

      But my experiencing that, I cannot imagine what it must have been like in 1972-1973 for our servicemen to return from Vietnam, a much more costly war for Americans, and then be spat upon.

      So now think about the thousands of young hard working blue collar oil field workers today in Texas, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Colorado, New Mexico. No doubt Ms AOC despises what they do to both support their families and provide this country with energy independence. She wants to put them in unemployment lines, just like coal miners in Kentucky, Ohio, and WVa.
      All because of a trace gas.

    • “And yet the on-going, partial US government shutdown (which is an existential crisis if it’s your paycheck foregone now for +31 days)”

      Today I noticed the bank with which I do business has 2 notices on its web site:
      1) Any bank customer who is a furloughed federal employee with a loan from (this bank) need not make any payments until shutdown ends, and will not be penalized.
      2) Any furloughed federal employee can have an interest free loan with no payments due during shutdown.

      Pretty good deal for furloughed federal employees. Take out a loan for the amount of each missed paycheck, then when the back-pay comes pay off the loan. Voila – no missed pay at all. Just a nice paid vacation without actually taking any vacation days. They will still be available to take next summer when the weather is better.

      SR

      • It will be less nice to those furloughed employees who actually work and who will have to catch up when the furlough ends.

        Admittedly that might not be too many

      • “) Any bank customer who is a furloughed federal employee with a loan from (this bank) need not make any payments until shutdown ends, and will not be penalized.
        2) Any furloughed federal employee can have an interest free loan with no payments due during shutdown.”

        There is a bank in our area that is offering something similar to furloughed federal empolyees. They said they would honor all bills submitted until the employees get paid.

        Not Democrat, not Republican, but Human.

      • It is of course tough on the furloughed individuals, but what percentage of government employees have actually been missed?

        • I was talking to an Air Traffic Controller last night. He is working a full schedule for no pay. He does expect to get pack pay at a later date.

  8. She’s not very good with numbers, or facts, or words or analogies. Welcome to chronic reality, WWII for millennials.

    • Yea, I really struggled to read the transcript. Much of it was like two different sentences joined together at random. Hearing it, it would make no sense at all.

      • Articulate and knowledgeable she is not, but AOC is being feted as if she is by certain sections of society. Heaven help us if that is the sort of ‘leadership’ being developed by modern ‘education’.

      • I suspect that her disorganized thoughts spill out of here mouth much faster than they can be constructed.
        Like all destructive storms she posses much energy, but none of it useful.
        The next disaster to befall New York: Hurricane Alexandria. Beware the flooding from mental diarrhea.

  9. Ha ha ha, not much “fact mongering” in that bizarre little twerps mind space….plenty of space however. In NYC this is what passes for a leading candidate for elections…and is being considered amongst other brilliant candidates such as Pocahontas, Creepy Uncle Joe, Hillary mark 111, Opra, Red Bernie and probably Jim Carey et al from Hollyweird…. to run against Trump….in the Federal elections.
    You guys have a very large number of morons in the US, learn to cheat, get organized and politic as much as they do, or you will lose everything. You will also need your own conservative search engines where no one is censored for having a conservative opinion and the past is not re-written etc why is no-one already doing that? They would become the worlds most wealthy person.

    • Fortunately, Representative Ocasio-Cortez is not old enough to run for President in 2020. That pesky Constitution gets in the way again.

      • They why is she in betting markets for being the next president in 2020? And she is an outsider granted, but she has better chances % wise than many. I reackon the Dems may be that arrogant to even try running an under 35 year old. F the constitution seems to be their mantra.

        • She has zero chance without a rewrite of the Constitution, being that she will not be old enough to run. And a change to that rule has, literally, zero chance of passing through a 2/3 vote of the house and senate, getting signed by the President, and then being ratified by 3/4 of the states.

    • “why is no-one already doing that?”

      Republicans don’t have a very strong sense of self-preservation. They desperately want the approval of the Leftwing News Media and they cannot band together to fight the Left because the Leftwing News Media is part of the Left and if Republicans band together to fight them then they won’t be loved and that’s a fate worse than death for some Republicans.

      Republicans say, “Can’t we all just get along?” And then operate on the premise that we can. Meanwhile, the Demcrats are pulling every dirty trick they can think of to crush the Republicans.

      It’s kind of a one-sided fight right now, although Trump has managed to put a little bit of spine into some Republicans. Fortunately, Trump has enough spine for all of them.

      • That is so embarrassing I got weirded out within 5 seconds of hearing him begin his idiotic musings.
        First time I heard it, I was surprised there were no guffaws of laughter, and the military buy he was questioning actually pretended to take his question seriously.

      • Is his vocabulary really so limited that he can’t think of the word “wide”? Even before he got to the part about the island capsizing, it was embarrassing to watch him struggle for basic, everyday words.

        • I know a man who was in the chamber when that was said, he had to fake a coughing fit and leave. It is just not cool for a US Army major to be seen laughing, publicly, at any member of Congress.

    • How can they get elected?

      Politics is a business. Your Nation May Vary but from I have been involved in pre-selection processes and there is a strong desire to select not the person who would be best at doing ‘government’ but the best at getting elected. There are numerous theories as to what makes someone good voter bait, but very few of the ones I have heard ever related to them being clever enough to actually make a difference once elected.

      Unfortunately – or at least in Australia where we have compulsory voting – there exists the ‘Big Tit Vote’ where indifferent voters make their choice based on which female is the hottest. This exists. You will rarely hear anyone admit to it, but I have privately discussed this on occasion with some female elected members of our state parliament and while they didn’t formally agree with me, they certainly didn’t claim I had no idea what I was talking about either.

      It exists. (Or at least with compulsory voting, Your Nation May Vary) The cunning hide its advantages behind their METOO hashtags and pick up votes from both sides of the sexism spectrum.

      Also remember that politics is business and businesses have silent partners. You may be as dumb as a box of hammers but that is fine if you have powerful backers who will tell you what to do. They ‘help’ you with all the big words on the legal documents and you get to appear on national television – Win/Win.

      Where the system falls down is where the person selected as being vote winning and controllable starts to go off script. With this lady it strikes me that the system decided she was both a vote winner and controllable and went for the short term gain of getting her elected. The problem now is she believes she is independent, important and clever enough to start driving the bus herself.

      As an outsider I am open to correction, but my take is she is going to do her own party a fair bit of damage before they either rein her in or remove her.

      • “As an outsider I am open to correction, but my take is she is going to do her own party a fair bit of damage before they either rein her in or remove her.”

        I think so, too. The radicals will love Ocasio but most of the American people are not socialists and her ideas are going to fall flat as soon as she tries to implement them. Her main idea is to raise taxes to 70 percent or higher. That’s not going to fly, so all her other ideas, which requre enormous amounts of money to do, will not fly either.

        I don’t know if or when the establishment Democrats will reign in Ocasio. They may all be radicals by now or scared to buck her and the other socialists but her radical ideas are not going to be accepted by the American people.

    • She looks good, and she’s promising lots of free stuff.
      Unfortunately that’s all it takes these days.

  10. In 12 years ALL of the Baby-Boomers will be retired, and she will have to find enough adults to pay taxes to support all the bold Socialist programs promised by occasional cortex. She won’t find enough adult taxpayers … so she’ll just tax the shit out of ‘carbon’ … and get more taxes out of the retired Baby boomers

    • Well MS AOC and her fellow travelers in Congress will just come for your 401K and Roth-IRAs that you thought you’d already paid all the taxes on.

      • She’s already declared that it’s immoral that people are allowed to be billionaires. It’s a short walk from there to a conclusion that it’s immoral that some people have enough money to retire while others don’t.

  11. OCASIO-CORTEZ said:
    [excerpt]
    “… And I think for younger people looking at this are more like, how are we saying let’s take it easy when 3000 Americans died last year, how are we saying let’s take it easy when the end person died from our cruel and unjust criminal justice system? How are we saying take it easy, the America that we’re living in today is dystopian with people sleeping in their cars so they can work a second job without healthcare and we’re told to settle down. It’s a fundamental separation between that fierce urgency of now, the why we can’t wait that King spoke of. …”

    Ms O-C professes to care for the common man and the underprivileged, but then she advocates policies that have been proven to increase poverty and deprivation in every country where they have been attempted. The conclusion is that she is either delusional, or she fully understands what she is doing, and it is treasonous. There is ample global evidence that the far-left deliberately destroy the economy, so they can live like kings atop a ruined state.

    • I’m afraid far too many people this age are so ignorant that they don’t understand how laughable they look to us oldies. They act like they are the first people to see injustice and racism in the world, and the first people to notice that there are inequalities and that life can be unfair. They then react as if the world is supposed to be utterly perfect – because they have led such easy, sheltered lives thanks to everything they now want to tear down.

      But their Utopianism is extremely dangerous. It is those who think they can build a Heaven on Earth who have brought the most misery, poverty and death to the world, whilst those who just want to make a small thing better or more efficient have brought us wealth, health and happiness

      • Thank you Phoenix44 – an excellent post.

        “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
        – George Santayana

        But do we really have to repeat the carnage of the 20th Century all over again?

        Leftists (aka Marxists, Progressives, Socialists, Greens, etc.) are the great killers of our age – Stalin and Mao killed about 130 million of their own people and Hitler killed more than 50 million in WW2. Then there are the lesser leftist killers, like Pol Pot in Cambodia.

        Greens have killed almost as many more with their phony wars against DDT/malaria and CO2/global warming.

        In my opinion, the leftist leaders belong in jail for crimes against humanity.

  12. How does a first world country produce such a person, what sort of educational system does the USA have, but even worse what sort of a education did the ones who voted for her have ?

    I just hope that the members of the USA military are better educated, or do they have schools to re–educate the ones who join up.

    MJE

  13. Another time frame claim that will come to pass and proven to be wrong, again. How many claims like this have been made, came and passed?

  14. The Epoch Times (which is the number 1 reporting newspaper in the world reporting on the evils of the Chinese Communist party) has reported in their November 29 -December 5 edition (the newspaper comes out once a week) that 40% of the US Democratic caucus (all the sitting Democratic congressmen and senators in the US government ) are members of a group called the Congressional Progressive Caucus. That group has extensive ties to several Marxist and Communist organizations in the US. Nancy Pelosi has just made a deal with that group that in exchange for their support of her to be elected speaker of the House, she would allow them to have more key appointments on House committees. This is surely a deal with the Devil himself (if you believe in Devils). The Epoch Times article then goes on to state that the Congressional Progressive Caucus is effectively part of the world Communist movement. Alexandra Ocasio Cortez is a member of that group. I asked her whether she was a Communist. She replied that she was a Democratic Socialist. I replied back to her that 100% socialism is impossible. Therefore part of the economy has to be in private hands, and wher edid she draw the line.

    Of course she never replied back because socialists always refuse to draw the line.
    SO IT SEEMS THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN THE US WILL EFFECTIVELY BECOME IN THE NEAR FUTURE THE US DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST PARTY.

    The Chinese Communist system works only because the CCP owns 66% of the ecomomy and in fact their economy is a sham. Everyone of their capitalist owners who own the 1/3 of the economy that the CCP doesn’t own; is liable to arrest and a speedy kangaroo court trial at any time. Companies that have owners that aren’t well connected to the CCP or who aren’t members of the CCP can have their company stolen at any time, the same way that the $50 billion Yukos Oil company was stolen by the Russian government. Every large or mid size Chinese company has to allow a member of the Chinese Communist party to access their books,data, and intellectual property. Each company can be ordered to follow any dictate of the CCP on any matter. So no political system works efficiently unless you have differing points of view. Because there is only 1 viewpoint in China, it does not practice capitalism. People like Alexandra Ocasio Cortez will lead us down that rabbit hole.

    • Khodorkovsky, neocon darling in exile in the EU, tried to sell Yukos to ExxonMobil and paid -$3 billion taxes. Did some time on the Llubyanka diet for that.
      China got 700 million citizens out of abject poverty in 10 years, has less poor than the US with 4 times the population.
      We have the GHCQ, NSA, FB, going over ever utterance (remember Snowden??) and call it “democracy”.
      LOL!
      China and Russia have nothing to do with OC’s daft Bernie Green New Deal – that is a domestic aberration.
      So do some serious study, look up Confucianism not von Hayek.
      Trump’s stated intention to deal with China, and the Belt and Road Initiative are the correct ways forward.
      Seems like OC also never heard of the BRI – the ignorance crosses the entire spectrum.

      • You do not realize the extent of Communist infiltration of the western democracies be it CCP infiltration or FSB infiltration. Putin is simply an extension of the Soviet KGB Communist system.

      • “China got 700 million citizens out of abject poverty in 10 years, has less poor than the US with 4 times the population.”

        If that’s true, it’s largely because we’ve shipped all our (US) industry overseas. China has benefited greatly from envirowhackos here.

  15. 12 years?! Holy smoke. That’s exactly what Harvard’s Business Report said. How dare you jest about OC. Neither would have the same hidden agenda, would they? OC loves the Constitution. It’s what got her elected. How can an August body at Cambridge, a twitterine, and Nobel Al all come up with identical predictions and be wrong? It’s settled I tell you. Back to your drawing boards.

    The Story of Sustainability in 2018: “We Have About 12 Years Left (pure propaganda bullspit)

    https://hbr.org/2018/12/the-story-of-sustainability-in-2018-we-have-about-12-years-left?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter_weekly&utm_campaign=weeklyhotlist_not_activesubs&referral=00202&deliveryName=DM23125

  16. I just went a read that transcript about four times.

    I am still not completely sure what she is trying to say. Is this a poor transcription or is she really just throwing out a word salad?

    Even the famous ‘Follow Earthians’ speech by Bob Brown was easier to follow. Is she talking off the cuff or is this something she has prepared for?

  17. Time to add all Dems to the no fly list. To save the planet.

    Ocasio can buy an electric car as she can now easily afford it. Thus she can drive back and forth from her home district to Washington, There is absolutely no need for her to take an airplane.

    I believe I heard Ocasio wanted hydrogen powered aircraft. Well Ocasio, if you don’t want to drive or ride in an electric car, may I suggest a solar powered dirigible? The technology exists. Dirigibles were flying across the Atlantic in the 1930s. Just cover the dirigible surface with solar panels and voila!

    Will she do this? Naw. That’s for the little people.

  18. I would love for Ted Cruz to ask her a few questions !!!
    Or even me – like what % of the atmosphere is co2, and is co2 pollution, and a bunch of stuff about hurricanes, tornadoes, droughts, wild fires, sea level rise, etc……actual data…
    Just sayin. . .

    %

  19. But, but, but, the Pentagon in a 2004 report already stated “Britain is plunged into a ‘Siberian’ climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world. The planet will be at the edge of anarchy as countries develop a nuclear threat to defend and secure dwindling food, water and energy supplies”…

    We only have 8 years left, not 12! Repent you sinners! AOC will have you converted even sooner to the one and only true religion: socialism.

    • My thought exactly – every time I see her face “shining” like an evangelist.
      I find her genuinely scary.
      AGW is a religion and she is a proselytizing acolyte.
      She’s dangerous.

  20. As long as AOC argues the extreme socialist perspective and dismantling the carbon fuel sector with additional carbon taxes and stupid wealth transfer schemes, the Dems will suffer from lack of support from the centralist voter who would not advocate voting into power this leftist mind set. IMHO, even if they are life long middle of the road Democrats. I know several fairly hard line Democrats who are very uncomfortable with AOC, and her immature approach to politics.

    In that regard, she is a gift to Republicans. Let her keep speaking and the Democratic base will shrink enough that DJT has an excellent chance of winning a second term. Especially if the Mueller investigation continues to look like a never ending Democratic witch hunt with no real case other than entrapment of several fringe players that don’t have a lot to do with any Russian collusion. The case against Trump becomes weaker every month that this goes on, and unless there is some outrageous smoking gun and not some hype about DJT’s tax returns, I think that this will just make the case we are better off with Trump for another 4 years, because we know he isn’t going to sell out the American economy.

    The other positive attribute that AOC brings is the X factor that this socialistic mindset has been addressed and there is no pent up demand that would come out of the woodwork in any surprise support for extreme socialism. Other than for Bernie Sanders, but then he is just a perhaps milder version of AOC. And unless he hands over the extreme left leadership to AOC and her younger demographic, I would think there might be some friction between those two camps, as BS is still just an old white man. And Jewish at that. I doubt BS could have won the 2016 presidential election, just because Socialism is a dirty word in most USA politics. AOC makes it even less appealable to the majority of 40+ age voters, because she comes across as the extremist leftist socialist Marxist red liberal, which the majority of mature voters knows is dangerous to the country, policies and economies. In that regard, let’s hope that AOC digs in her heels, and preaches the bizzare socialistic leftist Marxist politics, and that will drive even more people to stick with the devil we know, which by the way has had a booming economy. Who wants to upset that apple cart?

    • In my opinion, the problem is that too many in the US, who get most of their information from late night comedy shows, never look below the headline or the Facebook meme of the day. Even on this post we are discussing energy sources. A portion of AOC’s New Green Deal does talk about energy sources and distribution, but PART B (from the Select Committee for a Green New Deal) should scare middle America including most Democrats, but they will never read it This section says:

      i. provide all members of our society, across all regions and all communities, the opportunity, training and education to be a full and equal participant in the transition, including through a job guarantee program to assure a living wage job to every person who wants one;

      ii. diversify local and regional economies, with a particular focus on communities where the fossil fuel industry holds significant control over the labor market, to ensure workers have the necessary tools, opportunities, and economic assistance to succeed during the energy transition; what the heck does that mean?

      iii. require strong enforcement of labor, workplace safety, and wage standards that recognize the rights of workers to organize and unionize free of coercion, intimidation, and harassment, and creation of meaningful, quality, career employment;

      iv. ensure a ‘just transition’ for all workers, low-income communities, communities of color, indigenous communities, rural and urban communities and the front-line communities most affected by climate change, pollution and other environmental harm including by ensuring that local implementation of the transition is led from the community level and by prioritizing solutions that end the harms faced by front-line communities from climate change and environmental pollution;

      v. protect and enforce sovereign rights and land rights of tribal nations i.e. w/r/t pipelines presumably;

      vi. mitigate deeply entrenched racial, regional and gender-based inequalities in income and wealth (including, without limitation, ensuring that federal and other investment will be equitably distributed to historically impoverished, low income, deindustrialized or other marginalized communities in such a way that builds wealth and ownership at the community level);

      vii. include additional measures such as basic income programs, universal health care programs and any others as the select committee may deem appropriate to promote economic security, labor market flexibility and entrepreneurism; and

      viii. deeply involve national and local labor unions to take a leadership role in the process of job training and worker deployment.

      How much of the above has anything to do with, like, warming of the atmosphere? A cynic like me would assume those pushing this legislation don’t really believe that they have a chance of achieving much of the items in Part A, but want the authority to enact everything in Part B.

      • What we need is an immigration deal where countries with centrally planned economies will accept any liberal idealog who wants to live under that kind of a system. For every 10 socialist citizens they accept from us, we’ll send them four Superbowl tickets.

        (And yes, I do know how to spell ideologue…)

        • Good proposal!(and as I explain from time to time, if I misspell words or use incorrect grammar it is because I INTENDED TO, not a mistake. As the saxophone player said”Those lights are off on purpose!”)

  21. Like how old is this woman like, I mean like! Also where are the questions around this absurd “in 12 years we are doined” come from. Where are the questions, the challenges? Pure adolescent emotion

    • She speaks like an adolescent as well. Listen to her say the word “important” as “impor-int”. Uneducated.

  22. World is doomed to end at 10 pm tonight! News at 11…

    Why would it now end in 12 years? It certainly hasn’t in the 49 years of doom-and-gloom predictions by all the dingbats since the first Earth Day in 1970.

    Don’t any of these people check their history or is it just too complex for them?

  23. “And I think for younger people looking at this are more like, how are we saying let’s take it easy when 3000 Americans died last year, how are we saying let’s take it easy when the end person died from our cruel and unjust criminal justice system? How are we saying take it easy, the America that we’re living in today is dystopian with people sleeping in their cars so they can work a second job without healthcare and we’re told to settle down. It’s a fundamental separation between that fierce urgency of now, the why we can’t wait that King spoke of.”

    Erudite, succinct and most important of all, coherent………….

  24. “That at some point this chronic reality do reach a breaking point and I think for our generation it reached that, I wished I didn’t have to be doing every post, but sometimes I just feel like people aren’t being held accountable. Until, we start pitching in and holding people accountable, I’m just gonna let them have it.”

    Can anyone translate this word salad into something approaching actual American English?

    • It would be handy if someone could translate it into British English, especially for those of us on the right side of the pond (supposing we are facing North) ;¬)

      • You are just using the wrong translating App there, Thomho.

        I found one that managed to translate her into Australian for ya;

        “So yeah, you have a gander at all the young sprogs and they are all jeez mate, we are completely rooted before the 2030 Grand Final if we don’t stop gas bagging and deal with this climate stuff. And fair suck of the sauce bottle but who is going to cough up the cash on this bugger? I mean crikey, we’re all buggered, there are no flies on me mate and we all need to consider what role Tony Abbott is playing in all of this. Yeah.”

        See? Bonza. Much easier to understand.

        Australian: The Universal Language.

    • “Can anyone translate this word salad into something approaching actual American English?”

      No. I’m an expert on American English and her statement is judged to be incoherent.

  25. Considering that it cost around $250 billion a year over ten years to achieve 1% of world energy from wind and solar, simple arithmetic says it would cost $21 trillion a year to achieve 100% reliance on wind and solar in 12 years. That about equals the GDP of the United States, and ten times the GDP of the entire continent of Africa.

    Could we afford this? No is the only sane answer.

    • Getting rid of fossil fuels and using windmills and solar as a substitute is completely unrealistic and will not happen. Not in 12 years and not in 50 years.

  26. Does she have any education in the complex world of ‘climate’ ? Or is she just scared by ‘what people say’?

  27. The first tell-tale sign of a scam is when the salesman insists on the extreme urgency to seize this absolutely unique once in a lifetime opportunity, right now at this very moment.

    Which is precisely what warmists do.

  28. “Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” — Harvard biologist George Wald. 1st Earth Day, 1970

    • Wald lived long enough to see his predictions falsified. Did he ever explain how he got things so wrong?

  29. Is it just me or are just about all the latest climate alarm prognostications aiming at the end of the world by 2030-ish? Just a sheer coincidence I’m sure that the UN Agenda 21 is also aiming to replace Democracy with Global Communism by the same date…..

  30. In Al Gore’s 2006 “An Inconvenient Truth“, he told us we had 10 years.

    Ironically, his sequel, “An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power” was made in 2017.

  31. Perhaps a note of optimism is appropriate.
    With people like this strange woman Ocasio Cortez at the head of the populist Climate Change Movement within the Democrat Party we can relax. No group of activists headed by such an ignorant and ill informed leader who doesn’t even possess oratorical skill, has ever managed to overcome the sound common sense of the people.
    Past tyrants at least has a smattering of knowledge about the world.

    • AOC has become the poster child for the H. L. Menken quote

      “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

    • You can’t really believe that AOC is the actual leader of her own “candidacy”!?!
      Next you’ll tell us that she wrote that “New Deal” manifesto herself :).
      (or that BHO wrote is own memoirs.)

      Just like BHO, AOC didn’t miraculously appear on the scene at just the right moment; Obama was backed by a cadre of committed “progressives” (to be kind) in Chicago that go back generations including the Jarretts, the Ayers, Frank Marshall Davis and his own grandparents the Dunhams (who just coincidentally met Frank Marshall Davis again in Hawaii; and then asked Frank to mentor young Barack when his Kenyan father left.)

      AOC will be carefully mentored by her handlers. She’s “raising Cain” right now within the party and that’s exactly what’s expected of her.

  32. If you start from the premise that politicians are hookers, then you go look at real live hookers and ask who their clients are, then you ask whether the hooker’s words during client sessions are the truth or what the clients want to hear…….

    Nothing surprising if you assume AOC is a high class hooker: she is telling her clients what they want to hear, so they keep coming back and asking for another session….

  33. It is becoming increasingly evident, brain power and mankind’s ability to rationalise the circumstances they are in, does not exist within the whole population.
    The random selection of genes, that might advance survival of the species clearly throws up strange players or pointless branches that have no real explanation, on occasions . Chance and randomness, is the obvious and only explanation, for Ocasio Cortez.
    Nature does some odd things at times.

  34. It’s negative 13C on the dial outside.
    Time to get another bunch of frozen to the bone climate refugees to sunny weather.

    If you are a reporter, could you please ask Mrs OC why the vast majority dream of warm weather and pay dear money to get there, be it for a week ?

  35. Wow – she seems to be hated even more by the US sceptic community than the evil HC, so she must be doing something right 🙂
    Plenty of evidence of climate change. Sahel desert a very good example of its impacts. US sceptics must walk around in blindfolds – see no evil, hear no evil etc.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/the-reporters-46921487

    • Watching the beautiful Ocrazy-Cortex make a fool of herself is like watching a meth addicted gambler win the lottery. You just know it’s not going to end well.

    • “Wow – she seems to be hated even more by the US sceptic community than the evil HC, so she must be doing something right”

      No, Hillary is “hated” more because not only does she stand for socialism, she is a criminal who tried to undermine the election process of the United States along with her partner in crime, Barack Obama.

      Ocasio is a screwball who has been given a giant meagphone by the Leftwing News Media to spread her socialist gospel, but conservatives don’t “hate” her, they are just wary of the detrimental influence she might have. Ocasio is not a criminal like Hillary, she is just clueless in a postion where it might be dangerous to others to be clueless.

      Ocasio’s ideas and comments deserve ridicule.

      • She didn’t just try to undermine the election process, she succeeded during the primaries. She colluded with members of the DNC to under cut Sanders at every opportunity.

      • Must be because most of us are white privilege patriarchal men who want to see hispanic women in the kitchen.

        I suppose that would be your preferred answer.

        • Actually I would not want this chick in my kitchen. Hell, not even in my house. Come to think of it, how can we get her banned from entry to Commonwealth of Pennsylvania? I would donate a buck to that gofundme!

    • As always, the consider any change to be proof that CO2 is going to kill us.
      I also love the way the trolls don’t defend the nonsense, they just declare that anyone who disagrees with the nonsense is a hater and therefore wrong, if not evil.

      When you can find something that hasn’t happened before, then I will take notice.

  36. Somebody mark the date (Jan 22nd 2031) then file it away and use it in 12 years time to make this idiots look stupid.

    • Doesn’t matter. Idiots like her have no shame. We’ve already seen what happens when someone points out how incorrect she is on a subject, she lashes out and deflects and never takes ownership of her mistakes.

    • At least we have a firm date for our destruction from her.

      These people are going to look so stupid when the world doesn’t end, and those who believed them are going to feel betrayed.

      Is it cold enough for everybody (in the NH)? 🙂

      • These people are going to look so stupid when the world doesn’t end, and those who believed them are going to feel betrayed.

        All the previous deadlines of doom that have come and gone (without said doom every showing up) haven’t had any affect on them, why do you think this time will be different?

        • I think this time the “crying wolf” about CAGW is being seen by a lot more people than in the past. We had the inflamatory IPCC report and then the U.S. government report both predicting calamity in a matter of years, and now Rep. Ocasio is making this 12-years-to-doomsday CAGW claim which is being spread far and wide in the media.

          So the alarmists are scaring a lot more people with these latest CAGW scares and the timeline is short enough that lots of people are going to be able to see just how wrong and over the top these scare stories really turned out to be.

  37. I think it’s great her district elected a functionally illiterate psychotic – such people have such a hard time getting (and keeping) regular jobs. Is this grammar-confused woman actually a lawyer? She gives all evidence that a GED is not in her future.

  38. OCASIO-CORTEZ:

    “And I think the part of it that is generational is that millennials and people, in gen z, and all these folks that come after us are looking up and we’re like, the world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change. You’re biggest issue, your biggest issue is how are going to pay for it? — and like this is the war, this is our world war II.
    _______________________________________________

    No, Cortez. You have no intention of defending the homeland from WWII Nazis.

    But you want to become leader of the Mongols hordes.

  39. AOC is symptomatic of the Progressive left in the US. Bernie Sanders is their Godfather. They’ve had some success at linking their politics with what it means to be young.

    Really a mindless mess of claptrap but it requires an answer.

  40. She had people in stitches of laughter recently when she said she was going to “run a train on the progressive agenda”. Either she doesn’t know what it means, which is pretty funny coming from someone with her supposed origin in the Bronx. Or she does know, and thinks it will help her political career, which is equally funny. Trump never actually said “grab ’em by the pussy” while he was trying to get elected.

    I wonder if she thinks the world will end before, or after, her political career ends.
    Even the Democrats are getting embarrassed by her.

  41. Often, on stage magicians, actors, actresses and many others in the public eye are vitally concerned by appearances, and their resulting impacts upon viewers.

    Causing those concerned that people will spot their subterfuges to cause distractions drawing attention away from central performers and their manipulations.

    Occasional-Cortex is a distraction.
    Her election was sponsored purposely in a district without serious competition.

    Given occasional-cortex’s blatant mistakes, utter ignorance across an astounding breadth of topics and frequent noisy outbursts; why is anyone paying attention to dolt occasional-cortex!?

    The thing to worry about, is who and why do they need such a clown onstage? What is getting ignored?

    Every time, I see multiple news releases based upon some specious statement by bumpkin occasional-cortex, I wonder what is hidden.

    Ignore everything occasional-cortex says or does! Do not assist sideshow distractions!
    Occasional-cortex is only front and center because her distractions are somewhat working. Low attention levels and cause the delusional mass media to chase other distractions. Preferably, educated, experienced and much less worrying distractions.

  42. In another article, she’s quoted as saying that our economic system is immoral because it allows billionaires to exist.

  43. Note the prediction scaled for political timelines. Those based on academic careers are much longer and those based on multi-national organs are even longer.

  44. Why 12 years? Why not 10 or 11 or 13 or 14 or 15? Please explain. That’s the kind of queston I’d be asking that low brow light weight. About anyone here could bury that clown on about any subject just by forcing her to explain.
    I’m just so tired no of these fools

  45. “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

    C.S. Lewis

    • And she gets flustered easily. Catch in front of a neutral or unsympathetic live audience with someone who knows, well, anything, and let the sound bytes commence. Treat her like Trump and see how fast she folds.

  46. The problem is not Cortez or dems or repubs, the problem is the scientist who have manipulated data for personal gain. Blame the funding system, the UN thirst for money flows to the south, the same old liars who brought us “green gold”, “global cooling”, “global warming”, and the rich getting richer. All the same forces as normal has created this issue and I am not sure humans as a species can overcome the need to worship the rish, despise the poor, and be completely tribal whatever the evidence actually says.

  47. Don’t know why any attention is paid to this air-head. Entertainment maybe, but even that is minimal.

    Ya know, like, OMG! Totally!

  48. 3000 ? In the UK last winter official government statistics showed in the 2017 to 2018 winter period, there were an estimated 50,100 excess winter deaths in England and Wales. I guess Scotland had quite a few as well
    The number of excess winter deaths in 2017 to 2018 was the highest recorded since winter 1975 to 1976.
    Those made the choice between eating or heating. Some global warming might have helped them.

    • This is an issue, we may agree with repubs on global warming, but is it OK for a couple hundred people to hold as much wealth as 3.8 billion people (or haf the planet)? When is this just feudalism? Therein lies the problem, she has alot of good points mixed with awful ones. Can we get a party than acts on facts instead of tribal BS?

      • That claim is completely and utterly bogus.
        We shredded it here a few weeks back.

        Any way, as long as they earned it, it’s theirs, and deservedly so.

        PS: Your complaint is not with the wealthy, it’s with the government policies that ensure that so many people stay desperately poor.

      • She has no “good points”, all she has is leftist, anti-human sh*tspew. Mental damage is damage, period, and Accusatory Occasional-Cortex has massive mental damage, as does 30-40% of her “generation”. Long past time to institutionalize those who are so mentally damaged.

  49. In this one case she is just as qualified to make ignorant statements and forecasts as the rest of them. Political climate chaos is the great enabler and equalizer.

  50. Of course, we’ve heard these sorts of doomsday forecasts before, notably from doomster Al Gore who also said we have 12 years.

    … then we have 24 years

  51. It’s the DNC-Mayan Political calendar.

    Fund NY’s subway and airport upgrade needs and California high speed rail miles or else.

  52. But the hundred months doomsday has passed and I have adjusted to the doom scenario so why should I care?
    You can only be doomed once or it is not a doom scenario. The biggest effect of the doomsday scenario is my heating bill has almost double its electrical component but wind turbines rather than climate did that.

  53. “the world is gonna end in 12 years” taken literally is absurd. I don’t know or care what she really meant to say. If she said world as we know it is going to end in 12 years, that’s always possible, if by “world” we mean civilization or western civilization. But the cause won’t be climate change; one trigger to the cause might be the obsession with climate change.

    She mentioned WW2, but no, this is our Civil War. The common enemy which unites us is not external and far away. The divisiveness has started, on a number of fronts. This is how civilizations fall apart.

    This afternoon I’d like to pick up on that first thought of mine: When I was a kid and watched sci-fi movies set in a futuristic dystopia where dehumanized individuals are mere chattels of an unseen all-powerful machine policed by commissars in identikit variety-show tinfoil suits in a land where technology has advanced but liberty has retreated, I always found the caper less interesting than the unseen backstory: How did they get there from here? And, as I say to Tucker above, we’re now in the getting-there-from-here phase:

    Things are changing very fast. And, if we don’t fully understand why they’re changing and where they’re heading, we’re going to end up in one of those dehumanized dystopias – and very soon.

    https://www.steynonline.com/9149/live-around-the-planet-tuesday-january-22nd

    Remember WW1. Too many causes to list, but there was one trigger: an anarchist assassin.

    • The problem is the nutballs on both sides, on that we can agree. Supporting Russia and fascism is not better than supporting anarchy and mob rule.

      • Really? Then stop supporting both, Trump opposes Russia and fascism and has done more to damage Putin personally and Russia politically in 24 months than Obama did in 8 years, Bush did in 8 years or Clintoon did in 8 years. Get over the lies and wake up.

    • Re WW1 – not so much of a trigger, more a keenly pursued pretext to proceed. If it hadn’t been Archduke Ferdinand, another excuse would have been found or manufactured

  54. AOC: “And I think the part of it that is generational is that millennials and people, in gen z, and all these folks that come after us are looking up and we’re like, the world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change….”

    Marshall Applewhite of the Heavens Gate Cult: “Earth is going to be recycled and your only chance is to leave the Earth with us….”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHISOG_1a0o.

    Applewhite and his 38 followers were found dead from suicide on March 26, 1997 in a San Diego suburb.
    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/heavens-gate-cult-members-found-dead

    Meanwhile, the non-recycled Earth is still here. Enough said.

  55. An apology for redistributive change by another name. The proponents of “one-child” were always more honest in their motive, method, and outcome than their “selective-child” counterparts. Just say what you want, without corrupting science, morality, ethics, culture, and everything else touched by your euphemisms, emotional appeals, equivocations, projections, and conflations.

  56. 12 years. So if I’m correct that would be on the end of her second term as president of the US. Makes sense.

  57. So when does she get the Nobel Prize for something or other and the Oscar for Best Populist and the Honorary Doctorate from the Berkeley School…… of Bar tending?

  58. What is it with all these people who think they’re insightful with above-average intelligence have the same bad ideas. When Occasional-Cortex describes the US as “dystopian” you can see the utopian image she has in her mind. They all talk to each other and marvel at how brilliant they are and they have it all worked out in their brilliant minds how their socialist polices will deliver prosperity and justice.

    It’s like they have no idea how things work in the world. I’ll wager there is no group of people who over-estimate their own intellect as much as socialists.

  59. UPDATE: Rep. Ocasio-Cortez responded to Grabien’s post. She writes, “For some reason GOP seems to think this is a gaffe, but it’s actually a generational difference. Young people understand that climate change is an existential threat: 3,000 Americans died in Hurricane María.

    The 3,000 deaths is an estimate using modeling from the George Washington University’s Milken Institute School of Public Health. It is not actual deaths caused by the hurricane. Rather it estimates what the toll would have been had their not been mass emigration before and after the hurricane.

    From the report:

    “We developed a series of
    generalized linear models (GLMs) with monthly data
    for the pre-hurricane period of July 2010-August
    2017, accounting for trends in population size
    and distribution over this period in terms of age,
    sex, seasonality and residence by municipal level
    of socioeconomic development. Our estimates
    also considered Puerto Rico’s consistently high
    emigration during the prior decade and dramatic
    population displacement after the hurricane. We
    used the model results to project forward mortality
    that would have been expected if the hurricane had
    not occurred for two scenarios—if the population
    had not changed (census scenario), and explicitly
    accounting for massive post-hurricane population
    displacement from the island (displacement
    scenario). “

    • What AOC is actually saying is that young people don’t have the intellectual capacity to understand that hurricanes and extreme weather fatalities have occurred long before they were born and are nothing new.

      It also exemplifies her lack of rational thought. She admits 3,000 is not the actual deaths but rather what” would have occurred” had there not been mass emigration before and after the hurricane.

      What never enters in to her thought process is “mass emigration” would not have been possible with sailing ships; and unfortunately airplanes do not operate on wind or solar power.

      Does she think PR would have been able to recover to the extent it has since the hurricane without fossil fueled equipment?

      Her ignorance is mindblowing.

  60. What AOC is saying is that everyone in the world will die if the United States doesn’t raise taxes on its citizens.

    • What you should tell her is that “If that’s the case (world ending in 12 years) there is NOTHING we can do to avert that from happening.”

      Also, I would like to know what she means by ‘world is gonna end’ and ‘address.

  61. She Guevara says 12 years to mass extinction. Just wondering, is that the length of time to full pension for US politicians?

  62. AOC is such a amateur. Every politician knows that you don’t predict the end of the world in a time frame that overlaps with your planned political career!

    • Trump is such a amateur. Every politician knows that you don’t claim responsibility for something (shutdown) in a televised meeting with professional politicians BEFORE it happens!!!

  63. “at some point this chronic reality do reach a breaking point ”
    Is that a misquote or attempteth mine lady a Shakepearean to be? If the latter then surely it should be:
    “at some point this chronic reality do reacheth a breaking point” Or “at some point this chronic reality doeth reach a breaking point” with ‘my lieges’ added on.

  64. I suspect she’s repeating the Goracle when he said 12 years and never bothered to check out just when he said it.

    • As I said, she is simply plagiarizing other people, not a single original thought has ever wafted through that empty skull.

  65. She should make a bet. Put money where her mouth is. Heck, every politician who makes similar predictions should do the same and there should be an organisation or something who tracks these predictions. Cheap talk is just way too easy.

  66. Well, even the New York Times seems to have ceased reporting on this …numbskull. A quick search on their website for “OCASIO-CORTEZ” shows no articles since December 10, 2018. If the favored mouthpiece for the Democrats/Liberals is ignoring her at this point (and in her own home state), then it is safe to assume that like, she’s been, like, relegated to the ‘facepalm’ file.
    She will self-destruct in the very near future and nobody is going to come to her rescue. Hopefully a lesson in ‘buyer’s remorse’ for those who were inept enough to vote for her in the first place.

  67. I’m certain that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez can see Russia from her home in the Bronx. And possibly little green men, too.

  68. It is hot here in Adelaide with all your NH missing heat but they were jumping the gun with-
    “Adelaide has set a new heat record, smashing the previous one reached in 1939, hitting 46.2 degrees Celsius this afternoon.” and then showing the front page news from 1939.
    117.7 Farenheit is 47.6 Celsius in my converter.

  69. Personally, I’m looking forward to her future political career, what could be more amusing than to metaphorically rub her nose in this press release in 12 years time.

  70. I think we should vote to take “The world is gonna end in 12 years” off the table.

    We need to inhibit ghgs in the atmosphere from emitting backstop radiation.

    We need to hold back on the £39 billion to the EUSSR climate fund.

    We need to stop sitting down with eco-terrorist organisations such as Greenpeace, WWF and those guys at Real Climate and Skeptical Science.

    We need a deal with the planet.

    The world is gonna end on the day I die. If I’m wrong you can execute me.

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