Pielke and Lomborg accused of “fact mongering”

Reposted from cliscep.com

Posted on 10 Jan 19 by Paul Matthews

Here’s a remarkable example of the post-truthiness of some elements of contemporary academia.

A magazine called Issues in Science and Technology has published an article Fear Mongering & Fact Mongering, by Adam Briggle, a philosopher at a third-rate institution called University of North Texas.

The article starts by dismissing the old-fashioned claptrap of Poincaré and Feynman, and then talks about research misconduct and ‘responsible’ research. But the main thrust of the article is to try to introduce a concept of “fact mongering”.

Where fear mongering can stoke irrational panic, fact mongering can cause irrational calm and complacency.

Briggle illustrates the distinction by referring to the notorious alarmist article The Uninhabitable Earth by David Wallace-Wells, full of irresponsible pseudo-scientific fear-mongering about “panic”, “terrors”, “death” and “destruction” (which, as I noted recently, has serious consequences for the mental health of those who fall for it).  Briggle mentions that the article was criticised by scientists, but doesn’t have the decency to link to any of these criticisms, such as this one where the Wallace-Wells article is described as “Alarmist, Imprecise/Unclear, Misleading” by a team of climate scientists including Richard Betts, Chris Colose and Victor Venema. Even Michael Mann says that it exaggerates.

Amazingly, Briggle claims that the scientists who corrected Wallace-Wells’s alarmist falsehoods were irresponsible fact-mongers:

It prompted some denunciations, but also soul-searching among the climate science community about its rhetoric. Perhaps in their desire not to be discounted as fear-mongers, scientists had become fact-mongers. They may have assumed that they don’t really have a “fact” until it is scrubbed clean of all emotion, especially fear. This is certainly not misconduct in a narrow sense, but it may well count as a form of irresponsible research. Has the climate science community hid behind neutral facts and insufficiently scared the public? If so, theirs would be a rhetorical, not a logical, failure.

Briggle highlights two people who are guilty of fact-mongering: Roger Pielke Jr and Bjorn Lomborg.  He says he was a student of Pielke’s 15 years ago, and is concerned about Pielke’s WSJ article on natural disasters (edit: paywalled, but there’s a free version available at his blog).

Thus, I was surprised to see his op-ed counseling us to be “factful” when it comes to climate change. He has, it seems, adopted Lomborg’s view that there are facts on one hand and irrational fears on the other. And the fact is that despite all the bad news, times have never been better. He argues that there is little evidence that climate change has made weather more extreme. Indeed, natural disasters are claiming fewer lives than 50 years ago, and as a proportion of global gross domestic product the costs of natural disasters have actually gone down.

Pielke has been delivering this message for years, and as with Lomborg it has earned him the ire of many environmental scientists. As far as I can tell, his thesis is logically, or empirically, flawless. It is the rhetoric of it that has me wondering. He highlights a set of facts from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) about specific weather phenomena. What he doesn’t mention are the words in bold at the top of the same report stating that “warming of the climate system is unequivocal” and changes are “unprecedented.” When Pielke says the IPCC substantiates his claims, that may be literally true, but also rhetorically questionable. When does a reasonable argument slip into cherry-picking, or cherry-picking slide into misrepresentation?

So according to Briggle, Pielke’s article in the WSJ about natural disasters should have included some statements from the IPCC that have nothing whatsoever to do with disasters.  Briggle also appears to believe that the concept of using facts to rebut irrational fears is a new idea invented by Lomborg. And that Pielke’s logical, flawless thesis is rhetorically questionable.

Pielke has a letter in response (and there are other letters too), published in the same journal and also posted at his blog.

I’ve long argued that the world has seen a dramatic drop in lives lost to disasters, and that as poverty around the world has been reduced, the economic toll of disasters has not increased as fast as increasing global wealth. This is indeed good news. These are hardly controversial views, as they are also conclusions of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which produces periodic assessments of climate science, impacts, and economics, as well as being indicators of progress under the United Nation’s Sustainable Development Goals.

He says that Briggle is “late to the party”, mentioning previous smears that he has been subjected to for failing to join in the fear-mongering.  Briggle’s article

represents yet another effort from within the academy to silence others whose views are deemed politically unwelcome or unacceptable. At most research institutions, the penalties for researchers who engage in FFP are severe, and often include termination of employment. Of course, Briggle is not alone in sending a powerful and chilling message about which views are deemed acceptable and which are not.

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Don Jindra
January 13, 2019 7:56 am

My wife and I (and my sons) went to the University of North Texas. It’s not a third rate institution. That’s just a backdoor ad hominem. Stick to fact, not opinions, particularly when they are logical fallacies on top of opinion.

SAMURAI
Reply to  Don Jindra
January 13, 2019 8:31 am

Don-San:

In all fairness to the author of this post, I just checked US News and World Report’s ranking of University of North Texas, Which put it at #96~127th for regional universities, so how would you describe such a low-ranking?

It certainly isn’t a 1st or 2nd tier national university, which leaves…..

Just sayin’…

Don Jindra
Reply to  SAMURAI
January 13, 2019 8:43 am

With all due respect to US New, they have no ability to rank such things. It’s like those surveys that try to tell us the top ten beaches, or the top ten places to live. They’re all garbage. We’re becoming a culture that believes in the garbage others generate. There is no ‘best’ university. All education is what the individual puts into it. It doesn’t matter where he goes to school. To me, that kind of thought — the thought that a university makes you — is just masked socialism.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Don Jindra
January 13, 2019 9:47 am

It’s understandable that you would take offence, but it should not be taken as an attack on alumni. It is an attack on the faculty. It’s obviously true that you get from education what you put into it. Yet you are more likely to get something out of your efforts if your teachers are competent. If you are competent despite incompetent teaching, then you get a gold star.

Don Jindra
Reply to  Rich Davis
January 13, 2019 3:21 pm

That’s a difficult question — how does one measure a competent teacher? I’m glad I didn’t have a Chomsky. I only had one incompetent teacher (English Lit.). In my experience — granted it was a long time ago — the best teachers tend to get run out of town due to professional jealousy.

John Endicott
Reply to  Don Jindra
January 14, 2019 11:04 am

With all due respect to US New, they have no ability to rank such things

Indeed. A lot of these rankings in MSM news outlets tend to be subjective opinions masquerading as objective news. That said, many of them claim some kind non-opinion based set of criteria behind their rankings. So while I agree that such rankings are largely garbage for the most part. sometimes the criteria for the ranking actually have some validity (it really does depend on the criteria and how that criteria is assessed). For example, A ranking of “most expensive universities” that used tuition, cost of books, dorm expenses, available scholarship and other financial costs and aids as the criteria would probably come up with a fairly decent ranking of how expensive each university was, on average, compared to it’s peers. Even if it might not be a good ranking for a particular individual (due to their circumstances being different than the assumptions of the criteria – ie they will be commuting instead of living in the dorm, don’t qualify for some of the scholarships the ranking considered, etc).

Bottom line, take any such rankings with a large dose of sodium chloride, but unless you’ve looked into the criteria behind the ranking (and how said criteria was assessed), don’t be so quick to dismiss it out of hand as total garbage either – there might actually be some valid points that can be found when digging into the details.

tty
January 13, 2019 8:10 am

This Briggle fellow reminds me about the old story about the two academic subjects with the lowest equipment budgets.

The second lowest is the Mathematics department. They only need pencil, paper and eraser.

The lowest is the Philosophy department. They only need pencil and paper.

Greg Cavanagh
January 13, 2019 8:15 am

I feel I need to re-write the title.

Pielke and Lomborg accused of facts.

Poems of Our Climate
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
January 13, 2019 10:06 am

Much better title. Anthony and Charles are solid writers, but their titles could be much better and draw a larger audience.

Ferdberple
January 13, 2019 8:43 am

MAJIKTHISE:
I am Majikthise.

VROOMFONDEL:
And I demand that I am Vroomfondel.

MAJIKTHISE:
It’s all right, you don’t need to demand that.

VROOMFONDEL:
Alright. I am Vroomfondel, and that is not a demand! That is a solid fact! What we demand is solid facts!

MAJIKTHISE:
No we don’t! That’s precisely what we don’t demand.

VROOMFONDEL:
Oh. We don’t demand solid fact! What we demand is a total absence of solid facts! I demand that I may or may not be Vroomfondel.

FOOK:
Who are you anyway?

MAJIKTHISE:
We are philosophers.

ResourceGuy
January 13, 2019 9:11 am

Wow! I would think a response from the faculty body is in order.

Al miller
January 13, 2019 10:24 am

What is truly sad is that Mr. Briggle (and many others) are willing to sell out shamelessly to the flavours of the day in order to gain some personal “glory”. All the warmist narrative continues to expose those with incredibly low morals and high hypocrisy quotas. The same crowd will without a doubt simply move on to the next thing when the warmist fad is over.

Bill Murphy
January 13, 2019 10:34 am

“Never let the truth stand in the way of a good story, unless you can’t think of anything better.”
Samuel Langhorne Clemens AKA Mark Twain

Briggle (not to mention Mann, Hansen, Karl and the rest) seem to have adopted old Sam Clemens’ adage as their standard M.O. Unfortunately, they lack his insight, humor and intelligence. Sad.

January 13, 2019 10:52 am

Next:

truth mongering

integrity mongering

proof mongering

In other words, choose any term ordinarily understood to be a good thing, and convert it to a bad thing by adding “mongering” to it.

Now let me apply “mongering ” properly — language-abuse mongering ?

John Robertson
January 13, 2019 11:03 am

Briggles the message beautifully.
Facts? We don’t need no stinkin’ facts.

Well, has this not been the message right from the beginning of the UN IPCC ?
Facts are the enemy of fraud.
Up here in Canada our Minister of Climate Change has “No time for deniers”.
And the intellectual capacity of a cabbage, but thats politics.

Briggles highlights the obvious, the end is nigh.
The catastrophic Global warming meme is worn out and does not sell.
Watch it blow up , now it has a real cost to the citizens.

Fantasy is wonderful,until a huckster tries to make you pay for nothing.
When all the meme has left is the likes of Briggles all thats left is incoherent giggles.

ResourceGuy
January 13, 2019 11:57 am

Let’s see the code talker messages that said all psych faculty could get a raise or promotion off this global PR push contribution from their profession.

griff
January 13, 2019 12:05 pm

He nailed Lomborg…

björn
January 13, 2019 12:07 pm

Yes, all these facts repress peoples feelings and of course the idea is to make people think and act rationally instead of irrational and fear driven. We dont know yet how to control rational people, very dangerous situation.

JCalvertN(UK)
January 13, 2019 7:30 pm

Biggles states “What he doesn’t mention are the words in bold at the top of the same report stating that “warming of the climate system is unequivocal” and changes are “unprecedented.”

Can anyone help me here? I have IPCC AR5 WG1 open in front of me right now.
( http://www.climatechange2013.org/images/report/WG1AR5_ALL_FINAL.pdf )
But cannot see anywhere the bolded words “warming of the climate system is unequivocal” or “unprecedented”.
Am I looking at the wrong page?

John Endicott
Reply to  JCalvertN(UK)
January 14, 2019 11:16 am

It’s not in “bold” or “at the top of the report”. What it is, is part of the foreword page near the beginning (on page 7 of the PDF):
“The report confirms that warming in the climate system is unequivocal, with many of the observed changes unprecedented over decades to millennia”. The foreword is written by bureaucrats for bureaucrats (there’s no actual science in the foreword) and as such the ramblings of the foreword really have no place in a discussion of the scientific facts.

John Endicott
Reply to  John Endicott
January 14, 2019 11:18 am

The bold in my post is my highlighting the relevant words. That bold does not exist in the PDF.

John Endicott
Reply to  John Endicott
January 14, 2019 11:35 am

it’s also found in it’s own box *at the bottom* of page 20 in the PDF – in the Summary for Policy Makers (SPM) which is more editorial content written by bureaucrats for bureaucrats

JCalvertN(UK)
Reply to  John Endicott
January 15, 2019 5:21 pm

Thanks for that. I had to go off to work before I could do a proper search. When I did get round to it, the search confirmed what you have just said.

January 13, 2019 9:23 pm

I’m confused. Is it that “alarmism” and “fearmongering” are applicable terms only when the user deems the alarm or fear to be exaggerated or unfounded? Or is it that, as F.D. Roosevelt famously said, “we have nothing to fear but fear itself” – or as Voltaire’s Pangloss said “we live in the best of all possible worlds”? If that is the case, why rant against fearmongers and alarmists? Relax and enjoy your paradise.

I also wonder what being a professor at a “third rate institution” has to do with the quality of one’s arguments? Should the thoughts of those who live in third rate states be similarly disparaged?

John Endicott
Reply to  otropogo
January 14, 2019 10:34 am

I also wonder what being a professor at a “third rate institution” has to do with the quality of one’s arguments? Should the thoughts of those who live in third rate states be similarly disparaged?

It’s an ad hominem attack to be sure.
However, putting that aside and looking at the logic of the statement: Universities are places of learning, the quality of the university is based on the quality of the learning which means it’s classes which in turn is based on the quality of it’s professors. So if a University is third-rate that means it’s classes are third-rate and thus it’s professors are third-rate. It’s a back-door way of saying the guys an idiot/not very good at his job.

what makes states third-rate? well it’s not necessarily the thoughts of those who live in them (the state could be filled with deep-thinking Steven Hawking-types, but the roads could be in extreme disrepair because the wheelchair bound don’t make for very good manual laborers) so your analogy falls flat. But ignoring that, what makes states third-rate is the quality of living in those states, which is dependent on may variables – cost of living, state government laws/regulations, state of the infrastructure (for example, the aforementioned roads), etc. thoughts of individuals are pretty far down the list of variables. That said, some people have been disparaged over the state they live in (being called rednecks or hillbillies or worse – indicating they aren’t very bright or very enlightened based on the fact that they live in certain southern states, for example).

Mike Bryant
January 14, 2019 7:19 am

otro… speaking of factmongering… you’ve been Briggled…

Caligula Jones
January 14, 2019 9:55 am

“may be literally true, but also rhetorically questionable”

Orwell weeps.

“Fake, but true”.

Or, “progressives see something work in practice, but debate whether it would work in theory”.

John Endicott
January 14, 2019 10:41 am

the penalties for researchers who engage in FFP are severe

Ok, I’m stumped. (it’s probably something obvious that’s just escaping me but…) What does FFP stand for?

Jon
Reply to  John Endicott
January 14, 2019 2:16 pm
John Endicott
Reply to  Jon
January 15, 2019 6:51 am

Thank you Jon

Kurt in Switzerland
Reply to  John Endicott
January 14, 2019 2:55 pm

John,

Do read the linked article by Briggle in “Issues in Science and Technology” — a link to it is found in the second sentence of the article here.

John Endicott
Reply to  Kurt in Switzerland
January 15, 2019 6:52 am

Kurt,

see Jon’s reply for a more reasonably worded reply that directly answers the question

John Endicott
January 14, 2019 11:33 am

What he doesn’t mention are the words in bold at the top of the same report stating that “warming of the climate system is unequivocal” and changes are “unprecedented.” When Pielke says the IPCC substantiates his claims, that may be literally true, but also rhetorically questionable. When does a reasonable argument slip into cherry-picking, or cherry-picking slide into misrepresentation?

1) it’s not “at the top of the report”, it’s part of the foreword (where it’s not in bold), which is at the beginning of the report (on the 7th page of the PDF version of IPCC AR5 WG1) and repeated in the SPM (at the bottom of page 20, where it is in it’s own little box, in the PDF)
2) The foreword and SPM contains no actual science. They’re basically an editorial/opinion piece written by bureaucrats for bureaucrats.
3) if you are looking at the science facts (as Pielke is doing) it’s not cherry picking to focus on the actual science facts in the document rather than the editorial content (that is science-free) designed for bureaucrats.

Weylan McAnally
January 14, 2019 1:46 pm

I am quite familiar with the University of North Texas since I have a psychology degree from there.

It is a university with 38,000 enrollment. It was originally called Texas Normal College and Teacher Training Institute. It then became North Texas Normal College. Then it was North Texas State Teachers College. Then it was North Texas State College. Then North Texas State University. And finally the University of North Texas.

It is well known for its music program. Famous alums include Roy Orbison, Nora Jones, Don Henley, Pat Boone and Meatloaf. Its jazz music program has been ranked #1 since 1994 and the student 1 O’clock Lab band has been nominated for a Grammy. It also has a rather robust Theater program with alums like Thomas Hayden Church, Peter Weller and Joe Don Baker. Other famous alums include Mean Joe Greene, Bill Moyers, Phyllis George and Ann Rice.

It is considered a Tier 2 research university in Texas, not third tier. It has a medical school, pharmacy school and Engineering program.

I have taken science classes at three universities (University of Miami, University of North Texas and University of Texas at Austin) and the science classes at North Texas are legitimate. In fact, my cell biology course at North Texas was almost identical to my first class at the University of Texas College of Pharmacy. The UT College of Pharmacy is considered a top 5 pharmacy school.

Is it an elite research university? No. Is it third rate? No.

Steve O
Reply to  Weylan McAnally
January 14, 2019 4:49 pm

The “downgrade” was simply a non-factual insult. It provides a good illustration of why inflammatory insults are counterproductive, and dilute the power of the overall message. Also, the name “University of North Texas” is a perfectly credible name for a major university, unlike some of the previous names. It sure took them enough edits to get there!

Reply to  Weylan McAnally
January 17, 2019 7:51 am

Some Fact Mongering for your consideration. A Twitter analysis about the 2016 Election of Donald Trump
Very Interesting.
https://longhairedmusings.wordpress.com/2019/01/17/2342/
Climate Change Twitter Analysis
Go to the profile of John Swain
John Swain
Apr 26, 2016
First published (in modified form) on Carbon Brief 26 April 2016.

https://medium.com/@swainjo/climate-change-twitter-analysis-6657b6f69f1e

Steve O
January 14, 2019 4:42 pm

The main point of the original article is that non-scientists are sounding alarm bells to a much greater extent than are the actual scientists. The accusation that the scientists aren’t “alarmist enough” seems to be a common one. Of course, one possible explanation is that there is less cause for alarm in the actual science than in the public prognostications of doom, and that the fear-mongering is not as justified as is generally represented.

No, that can’t be it. It must be that there is something wrong with the scientists.

Reply to  Steve O
January 14, 2019 11:45 pm

“No, that can’t be it. It must be that there is something wrong with the scientists.”

First of all, it’s silly to lump all “scientists” together. They don’t all agree, and some disagree emphatically. Scientific truth is not determined by a majority vote. Sheep are not that smart, nor that courageous.

Second, what’s so new about scientists cowering under the umbrella of conformity/orthodoxy from the guillotine of academic or even social ostracism? I would say that scientists are more prone than the average person to be fearful of social conflict. That’s probably why most of them became “scientists”.

A writer whose name must not be mentioned here documented in great detail how fastidiously the prominent “scientists” of the 18th and 19th centuries avoided even the slightest consideration that any sudden global catastrophes might ever have occurred., despite striking the evidence to the contrary.

They stolidly maintained that globally catastrophic events happened only at glacially slow speeds, and hence there was no need to be alarmed about such things. Of course they didn’t know about nuclear power, asteroid impacts, CMEs, or our capacity to poison our environment.

Reply to  Steve O
January 14, 2019 11:47 pm

I replied to your comment, but my post was instantly removed, despite failing to mention the “writer who must not be named”. The sheep have gotten hypersensitive to critical thought.

January 14, 2019 11:48 pm

I replied to your comment, but my post was instantly removed, despite failing to mention the “writer who must not be named”. The sheep have gotten hypersensitive to critical thought. And then this comment got a snappy response. “you already said that”. So – are you going to let others read it?

John Endicott
Reply to  otropogo
January 15, 2019 6:56 am

I suspect it wasn’t “instantly removed” (as it is currently there) instead it just wasn’t instantly available. Ever since the “upgrade” to the new forum software, I’ve noticed that some posts are instantly available while others take a few minutes before appearing. There is no apparent reason for the behavior.

January 16, 2019 8:45 pm

Thanks for the heads up. My preceding post had displayed and stayed displayed immediately after submission. The follow up disappeared as soon as I hit “post commnent”. The two subsequent ones above disappeared immediately also and were replaced by a pop-up that said “duplicate detected – you already said that”. Then why were they eventually displayed? After all, there’s nothing the poster can do after submitting the post.

Past posts have been automatically censored (as the moderator subsequently explained) because they addressed banned topics or used banned words or phrases. I wonder why a program deemed intelligent enough to exercise such censorship could not also give the specific reason for such censorship to the poster?

I’ve also noticed that ticking the boxes below doesn’t result in any notifications at my end any more.

January 18, 2019 1:12 pm

Thanks for reposting Paul’s article. Can you put us in your right hand Bookmark column? Thanks.