Solar Voyager forced to abandon mission

Weather stops plastic waste car reaching South Pole

A car made from waste plastic has been forced to abort its mission to the South Pole because of bad weather.

Solar Voyager was set to be the first solar-powered expedition to reach the world’s most southernmost point.

But despite it being Antarctica’s summer, unexpected heavy snow has meant progress has been slow, and now the team have had to turn around.

The team from Holland say they’ve still achieved their main mission: to prove plastic waste can be put to good use, though they’d rather people avoided using single-use plastic altogether.

A vehicle built from plastic waste, powered by the sun. Source: Clean2Antarctica

 

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Brad Blase
December 19, 2018 10:05 am

Unfortunately, they tried to drive it where the sun don’t shine (all of the time)…

Bryan A
Reply to  Brad Blase
December 19, 2018 10:19 am

And here it was I thought that they were purposefully driving as to keep the solar panels aimed at the sun (in circles)

Harry Passfield
Reply to  Bryan A
December 19, 2018 10:48 am

Disappearing up their own a…

Wrusssr
Reply to  Harry Passfield
December 19, 2018 11:12 am

. . . they’d have been much better off sticking with their sets and props.

Robert W. Turner
Reply to  Wrusssr
December 19, 2018 6:00 pm

This confirms that travelling by foot is still superior to solar pv travel.

Bryan A
Reply to  Wrusssr
December 20, 2018 9:55 am

Well…Solar only stands a chance of functioning 1 day per year in Antarctica

DHR
Reply to  Brad Blase
December 19, 2018 12:24 pm

In the Antarctic summer, the sun does shine all the time. But it doesn’t shine much and when it’s snowing, nearly none at all.

Susan
Reply to  DHR
December 19, 2018 2:44 pm

But who would have expected heavy snow in Antarctica! It is summer! And there is global warming!

BoyfromTottenham
Reply to  Brad Blase
December 19, 2018 5:13 pm

And what about the katabatic winds down there – they would probably catch the solar panels and blow the lightweight plastic trailers to hell.
I wonder where the hundreds of thousands of $ for this loopy ‘research’ project came from. Oh – the taxpayers of course.

Ian Macdonald
Reply to  Brad Blase
December 19, 2018 9:31 pm

“..but the seller told us that these ‘new, super’ solar panels STILL GIVE SIGNIFICANT OUTPUT IN CLOUDY CONDITIONS!!”

Significant, as in a significant digit less?

Dave Ward
Reply to  Ian Macdonald
December 20, 2018 3:11 am

I once used a small panel to (try and) keep some batteries charged, and installed a simple digital amp-meter to monitor the output. On a bright summers day a single cumulus cloud would reduce the output by 30-40%, and an overcast summers day would be more like a 50-60% reduction. As for a gloomy winter day – 10% of the nominal output, if I was lucky…

Reply to  Ian Macdonald
December 20, 2018 9:24 am

I don’t think they had a inclination of thought!

Reply to  Brad Blase
December 19, 2018 10:46 pm

I think it has been less than 48 hours since I noted that if they are unlucky, they may have close to zero help from solar power, since cloudy weather is more the rule than the exception down there.
I winder how the wind was in those snow storms they hit?
200 mph would seem to make headway difficult in a vehicle like that.

MarkW
Reply to  Menicholas
December 20, 2018 9:22 am

Given the size of the sails, I mean solar panels, 200mph from the side should be enough to flip the whole thing over.

Bitter&twisted
December 19, 2018 10:07 am

Oh dear. What a shame. Never mind🤮

John Robertson
December 19, 2018 10:07 am

That was quick.
Survival rate of these projects is diminishing at an exponential rate?

Curious George
Reply to  John Robertson
December 19, 2018 10:58 am

They gave up. Mission accomplished.

Will the motor and the drive train made from waste plastic be shown in a museum?

Reply to  Curious George
December 20, 2018 9:08 am

No, it’ll end up floating in the Pacific. 🙂

Bruce Hall
Reply to  John Robertson
December 19, 2018 11:14 am

This could be considered “proof of concept”, but it also demonstrates that considerably more is required to make the concept into something feasible for mass consumption. Recycling plastic is not a new effort and nothing was proven by that; solar panels are not a new product and the only thing that was demonstrated was their limitations. This is similar to the solar car races in Australia where large, ungainly vehicles seating one person race across the desert using solar power to charge batteries to run a motor to turn the wheels. That’s a long way from a truck with a 1,000 lb. payload in its bed.

December 19, 2018 10:09 am

It seems they got the vehicle out of there.
How?

tty
Reply to  Bob Hoye
December 19, 2018 11:08 am

By using fossil-fueled vehicles of course

M__ S__
December 19, 2018 10:12 am

It’s tough to design equipment for polar conditions, not just cold, but the winds and the hazardous terrain—snow chasms.

Tom Halla
December 19, 2018 10:12 am

Of course, someone will blame the heavy snow on AGW.

Andrew Burnette
December 19, 2018 10:13 am

“…when it’s possible on Antarctica, it’s also possible at your own home.”
She tries to equate going solar-only in the desert of Antarctica to going solar-only at home? She only made it for 30-days! That’s pathetic (both the performance and the quote).

Reply to  Andrew Burnette
December 19, 2018 1:23 pm

Especially when you have nights in the Netherlands but perpetual daytime in Antarctica at this time of year.

James Clarke
December 19, 2018 10:13 am

I am not impressed. Decades ago, Andy Griffith went to the moon and back for profit! He used junk and his own money to make it happen. Virtue signalling wasn’t even a thing back then! Oh…the good ole days.

Bob boder
Reply to  James Clarke
December 19, 2018 10:53 am

i used to watch that show forgot all about it

Schitzree
Reply to  James Clarke
December 19, 2018 11:44 pm

Watching that made me want to go play Kerbal Space Program.

^¿^

ResourceGuy
December 19, 2018 10:14 am

Now clean up the mess!! Pack your trash out.

Thomas Homer
December 19, 2018 10:14 am

In the video they claim that since they were able to drive around in a solar powered car in Antarctica for 30 days that anyone can power their lives with solar power.

Why are we still shipping oil to Antarctica?

Neil Jordan
Reply to  Thomas Homer
December 19, 2018 10:48 am

Because the nuclear power station there was decommissioned.
https://antarcticsun.usap.gov/features/contentHandler.cfm?id=2176
Only a milli\sarc on this reply. At least the reactor operated for ten years instead of just a month for the solar panels.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  Thomas Homer
December 19, 2018 12:27 pm

Unfortunately current human lifespans are greater than 30 days, but they are working on that.
BTW there is a BIG difference between surviving and thriving.

RobR
Reply to  Thomas Homer
December 19, 2018 1:41 pm

Some details from their blog are missing but in the 9 December report, that had only traveled 40 kilometers.

Dog sleds would have been several times more efficient. Essentially, they proved that hope, change and idealism are no match for inconvenient truths like; low power density, savage cold, and misconceived notions.

But hey; as true deniers, their nonsensical attempt is billed as a success. Meanwhile, back on Earth, real people search for solutions to plastic waste problems.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  RobR
December 19, 2018 2:45 pm

Unless you are running the Iditarod, you are going to do about 45 km tops with a dog team, considering camp set up and breakdown, and the care the dogs require.

RobR
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
December 19, 2018 3:31 pm

That’s a remarkable pace. Amundsen did it with dogs and low-tech clothing in 1912.

Dave Fair
Reply to  RobR
December 19, 2018 3:39 pm

“Meanwhile, back on Earth, real people search for solutions to plastic waste problems.”

Such as severely punishing the Asian countries that are dumping most of it into our oceans.

But noooo … we ban straws in places that don’t dump them. There are plenty of holes in the ground looking for some good plastic fill.

RobR
Reply to  Dave Fair
December 19, 2018 8:38 pm

Chemistry and biochemistry will solve this problem.

RetiredEE
Reply to  RobR
December 20, 2018 3:07 pm

Pardon me if I’m intruding but didn’t Scott survive for some time eating the dogs? I don’t think eating recycled plastic is particularly nourishing. Just an observation of some of the issues in surviving one of the most inhospitable locations on earth. Maybe I need the /sarc tag here.

Paul Blase
Reply to  RetiredEE
December 20, 2018 4:15 pm

No, Scott starved because he didn’t use dogs. He used ponies which were totally unsuited to the weather and died, and he ended up man-hauling.

Amundsen, on the other hand, trained with the Inuit on sled dogs and used 5em well. He did deliberately plan on eating about half the dogs on the way back to save on hauling dog rations. (He also deliberately let them access the latrine. Dogs will eat and can extract nourishment from human feces).

son of mulder
December 19, 2018 10:15 am

You’d think it would have caterpillar tracks if it was a serious attempt.

[You should fix typo in your email~mod]

Richard Patton
Reply to  son of mulder
December 19, 2018 12:20 pm

Maybe he meant it exactly as he wrote. LOL

ResourceGuy
December 19, 2018 10:17 am

Global warming causes science projects (virtue signaling) to fail.

December 19, 2018 10:20 am

These people keep telling us global warming will produce more snow. Don’t they read their own propaganda?

Garland Lowe
Reply to  Oldseadog
December 19, 2018 10:41 am

That was after they told us “snow will become a thing of the past”.
Climate theologians can have their cake and eat it too.

Peter Morris
December 19, 2018 10:24 am

So they just thought Mother Nature would be amenable to their virtue signaling?

This is so anti-science it makes my head hurt.

December 19, 2018 10:27 am

The should have consulted with Hyundai. They re-created the failed Shackleton expedition with modified Santa Fe’s and staffed by descendents of the original expedition members. It was really smart PR and the best part was: just like the original, nobody died.

There are a bunch of write-ups; one sample is here.

There also youtube videos. If I get the HTML right, one will be below:
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-8X50BkbpQ&w=560&h=315%5D

[Santa Fe’s? .mod]

Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
December 19, 2018 10:36 am

Found a better youtube video:

Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
December 19, 2018 10:43 am

Damn; I can’t get the embed code right. Try this: https://youtu.be/53Qy1IfXMUk

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
December 19, 2018 10:56 am

Looks like Hyundai is trying to sell cars to all the Antarctica climate scientists.

Krishna Gans
December 19, 2018 10:30 am

Imagine, snow in Antarctica…..

December 19, 2018 10:30 am

great, shame it wasn’t a ship full of more Darwin award candidates…

NO SUN, what a suprise, hey we don’t use any fossil fuel except to have people who do get us out of the sh..t!
I’m still curious who pays to get such people out of the Kaka, akademik shokalskiy and all the other dreamers to come.

Dave Bufalo
December 19, 2018 10:31 am

This was predictable. These people failed to do their homework on how to traverse the Antarctic terrain and the usual norm of bad weather. A good read is “Mawson’s Will” , which is how he survived a failed quest to reach the South Pole.

tty
Reply to  Dave Bufalo
December 19, 2018 11:17 am

It was actually a survey trip along the coast towards the east.

David Hood
December 19, 2018 10:34 am

Solar powered huh?
Hmmm…maybe with the size of those panels, it drove around from wind power!!

Kevin Butler
December 19, 2018 10:34 am

“We don’t use any fossil fuels” – except the fossil fuels to get to Antarctica and back. And the fossil fuels to process that waste plastic into a car. And the fossil fuels to produce, process, and ship the food they ate. And…

Marcus
Reply to  Kevin Butler
December 19, 2018 10:50 am

And the fossil fuels to rescue them..

Ron Long
December 19, 2018 10:34 am

I hope the polar bears don’t eat them before they can be rescued.

David Hood
Reply to  Ron Long
December 19, 2018 10:38 am

Ummm…polar bears???

Krishna Gans
Reply to  David Hood
December 19, 2018 10:43 am

The winged black version….

Reply to  Krishna Gans
December 19, 2018 11:03 am

Don’t be too hard on Ron L — he was just suffering some momentary cognitive failure, due to the SURGING levels of CO2.

In his right mind, at CO2 levels at the starvation level for plants, he would have correctly realized the real danger to solar drivers in the South Pole — rabid penguins turned into vampires by attacking space aliens.

My cognition is a bit sharper, because I have large numbers of Venus fly traps surrounding me, to which I feed morsels of climate alarmists, as a supplement to their normal fly cuisine.

Off to find something more constructive to say on the next go ’round. (^_^)

Editor
Reply to  David Hood
December 19, 2018 10:51 am

Well, David, how about ravenous killer penguins…the raptors of Antarctica, which have evolved that way due to climate change?

Ooh, this could be fun. Guess what their primary food source would be!

Regards and Happy Holidays,
Bob

Bob boder
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
December 19, 2018 10:56 am

No bears down south, No penguins up north, i wonder if they have a peace treaty and have divided the world up.

RACookPE1978
Editor
Reply to  Bob boder
December 19, 2018 5:04 pm

I shall blame the Russian bears for meddling in the Arctic-Antiarctic division of the world between those cute white fuzzy cuddly polar bares and the mean screeching waddle-footed winged vegetarian-wanna-be-fish-eating oily-fossil-fueled penguins.

tty
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
December 19, 2018 11:20 am

The only predators that far south are the skuas, which will happily eat just about anything, but won’t attack living prey larger than penguin hatchlings.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  tty
December 19, 2018 12:34 pm

Leopard seals and orcas patrol those waters, but they won’t attack terrestrial vehicles.
BTW according to accounts from Shackleton’s expeditions penguins are not very tasty.

David Hood
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
December 19, 2018 11:36 am

Well, we could always be un-charitable at this time of year and make the scathing comment that the killer penguins might be eco warriors and be vegetarians – because there ARE a lot of GREENS down in the Antarctic after-all, and we all know its better for the earth if GREENS are consumed!!!

Oh dear – I do have a sick mind.
Now I know what to ask for for Xmas and my resolution on New Years eve.

All the best – for the season, to EVERYONE, even I must say, those which would wish us otherwise – like Prof Todd May.

Reply to  Bob Tisdale
December 19, 2018 1:57 pm

There were terror birds in South America. Fossils have been found.
They had to come from somewhere. Maybe “terror penguins”?
No fossils of terror penguins have been found because they’re still down there?
(Maybe they took out the South-Polar Bears?)

tty
Reply to  Gunga Din
December 20, 2018 8:21 am

There actually were “Terror-birds” in Antarctica too back in the Eocene, when the continents were connected, but they are only very distantly related to penguins (which already existed back then).

David Guy-Johnson
Reply to  Ron Long
December 19, 2018 10:46 am

Polar bears? Surely you mean the penguins

Timo Soren
Reply to  Ron Long
December 19, 2018 10:48 am

Arktos means bear, (as in the constellations) Hence the origin of Arctic. (not 100% sure on this but I read it someplace.)

Ant-arctic seems to mean (not the arctic) so you can use that to remember.

Antarctic = no bears (literally)
Arctic = bears (literally)

tty
Reply to  Timo Soren
December 19, 2018 11:05 am

Not reall. It comes from greek ἀντι- ‘against, opposite’. So antarctic means opposite to the arctic which it is.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Ron Long
December 19, 2018 10:52 am

Just remember, Penguin down under, no one else can ‘bear’ it!

RACookPE1978
Editor
Reply to  Ron Long
December 19, 2018 12:01 pm

Polar bears? Meh.

Leopard Seals, Killer Whales, maddedned penguins, CAGW0-induced “scientists”?

Which is the most dangerous to life, liberty, and the pursuit of hoppiness?

(Aren’t Penguins the ultimate vegetarians? After all, they eat fish, not “real” meat. /s

Ron Long
Reply to  Ron Long
December 19, 2018 12:07 pm

We’ve been down this road before, with you deniers. I have a refrigerator magnet from Seaworld in Orlando with polar bears and penguins co-existing. Who do you believe, a bunch of amateur scientists/deniers or a refrigerator magnet?

Reply to  Ron Long
December 19, 2018 1:13 pm

They didn’t even had the chance to encounter THE THING.

Psion
Reply to  Ron Long
December 19, 2018 1:23 pm

Ah! I see I’m not the only mad scientist who wants to transplant a polar bear colony to the south pole and a penguin colony to the north!

Kevin Butler
Reply to  Ron Long
December 19, 2018 1:58 pm

While I think Ron Long was “drolling”, he also seems to have succeeded in trolling a bunch of readers.

Ron Long
Reply to  Kevin Butler
December 19, 2018 4:57 pm

That’s right Kevin, I’m bad (and according to my wife getting worse). The magnet from Seaworld is for real and the saleslady told me if was for Antarctica because she was sure there were no penguins at the northpole. She had a pin on her blouse that said “Bryn Mar”, which sounds to me like one of those Scottish secret drinking sociaties.

Reply to  Ron Long
December 20, 2018 2:32 am

Bryn Mar sounds more Welsh to me.
As for the Scottish secret drinking societies, have you been looking into my lounge window from across the river? Shame on you.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Ron Long
December 19, 2018 2:58 pm

Giant Albino Penguins maybe?

tty
Reply to  Craig from Oz
December 20, 2018 8:22 am

A Lovecraft fan I presume?

Doug
December 19, 2018 10:39 am

I read, I laughed, and then this.
When I looked at the first pictures with the deep ruts in the snow, I knew they were doomed. There is a reason why virtually all vehicles used in the snow are tracked.
Only truly stupid people would not research the conditions and realize that fact. Being highly educated does not protect you from being stupid. Arrogance is the main symptom. How many more stupid people with virtually no experience, or thinking ability will put themselves and many others at risk?

Roger Knights
Reply to  Doug
December 19, 2018 3:12 pm

Tracked vehicles have higher rolling resistance than pumped-up tires. Solar power wouldn’t have been able to turn tracks as easily.

Russ Wood
Reply to  Doug
December 21, 2018 7:31 am

And, as far as I could see from the photo, the solar panels weren’t STEERABLE! Even in the polar regions, the Sun still moves across the sky! So, seeing as the trailers had fore-and-aft solar panel direction – were they going to point them due North? Which, of course means that they would be going around in a constant-latitude circle…

John Bell
December 19, 2018 10:43 am

I just knew they would not make it, what a silly notion.

Timo Soren
December 19, 2018 10:45 am

People gave gobs of money to fly/ship people and things to Antartica to have a 4 wheel cab apparently pull two trailers across snow on snow-chained wheels.

If it wasn’t built with tracks they are quickly stuck. Note the video does show them trying to shovel the thing out of a drift.

Won’t surprise me if it is abandoned as well (the vehicle). Glad they abandoned the craziness early enough that it didn’t end in fatalities.

Hard for me to believe the heater in that was solar only. 30 days of travel and heat would surprise me. I am not sure that is possible unless they had a bank of 100’s of large deep cycle batteries that were already fully charged when began.

Marcus
December 19, 2018 10:46 am

“A car made from waste plastic has been forced to abort its mission to the South Pole because of bad weather.”
Bad weather ? …In the Antarctic? And they couldn’t foresee this ? Guess they didn’t use the right “climate Model”…..,D’OH !

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