Shot and chaser in Whistler

Shot

Whistler ski resort in British Columbia Canada tried to extort money from the oil industry because of climate change effects to their resort.

Whistler wants to bill Alberta oil and gas company for climate change expenses

Chaser

The oil company fired back and cancelled meeting reservations. Then the mayor of Whistler did an about face and is trying to suck up to the oil company.

https://calgarysun.com/news/local-news/cibc-cancels-oil-and-gas-conference-in-whistler-as-mayor-apologizes-for-climate-change-letter/wcm/0706a359-bb87-4b5d-a985-645e4e00b976

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122 thoughts on “Shot and chaser in Whistler

  1. That is such a nice shirt story; more power to the people and less to those on the other side of the hill

    • Boycott those phony-green BC plicks at Whistler.

      Ski the best snow! Banff Alberta is just one hour from Calgary and has consistently better snow than Whistler. Banff is one of four contiguous National Parks, with a total area greater than all of Switzerland – yes, bigger than that entire country! Lift lines are short – not like the long lines elsewhere.

      I suggest Sunshine and Lake Louise, but there are also great hills at Norquay, Nakiska and others.

      Sunshine is highest, right on the Continental Divide, and has all-natural snow. Stay on the hill, or Banff is nearby, with the legendary Fairmont Banff Springs Hotel and many others.

      Louise has the most runs and is close to Fairmont Chateau Lake Louise and the Post Hotel – it’s a member of Relais et Chateaux – recommended for gourmets.

      Norquay, located right at Banff has some of the steepest runs in the world – and also some easy runs.

      Nakiska was the site of the downhill and slalom events at the 1988 Winter Olympics – a really nice hill.

      For learners, one of the best ski schools anywhere is right in Calgary, at the little hill at Canada Olympic Park. There is also the Olympic bobsled run, where you can take a ride, carefully supervised. There is also a tube park, several indoor skating rinks, and a pleasant lounge where Chrissy and Melody will take good care of you.

      There are plenty of cross-country trails, including the Olympic site at Canmore, between Calgary and Banff.

      So come on and visit us – fly into Calgary, head an hour west to Banff, and ski the best snow anywhere!

      Happy Holidays, Allan

      • I have skied Banff and Lake Louise. Had a paid trip for Sunshine but had to skip because of work commitments.
        I’ve skied Whistler (don’t recall if it was Blackcomb or Whistler Mountain). Skied Seymour near Vancouver, Manning, Mount Washington on Vancouver Island, Baker in Washington state.

        Watched and photographed the Jamaican bob sled team at the 88 Calgary olympics. Watched the East German hockey team play.
        I have never seen a professional hockey game live in my whole life.

        Took a lot of fossil fuels to do all that skiing.

      • Allan,

        I was a ski bum in Banff for several years. Great skiing!

        I still have my 35000 vertical feet skiied from Mt Norquay badge and a Gold Molestar medal where I trounced the pace setter.

        Those were the days:)

        Cheers

        Roger

    • They could also go to Wyoming. Base layers of 33″ or more, and more expected.

      Isn’t this ‘gimme, gimme, gimme’ demand kind of cutting of your nose to spite your face, or something like that?

    • As I’ve mentioned before, many people are taking the attitude of taking out ball and bat and going home. (This is a North American sports analogy: when growing up, many groups of kids would have baseball gloves, but be short of a ball or a bat. One lucky kid would have one, but would threaten to go home if they didn’t get to play).

      I’ve told numerous charities and community groups that I don’t go where I’m not wanted, and my money (and time) certainly don’t go where I’m not wanted. Want to make a big deal that straight white males are the most evil people in the universe, creators of nothing but misery and pain? Bye.

      Let the SJWs of the world unite, and start paying their own way.

    • I know!…I kinda teared up a bit…I kinda gotta warm and fuzzy feeling, must the Christmas season, making me sentimental…*sniff*

      I swore I heard a bell…guess a angel got its wings…

      Way too funny…cheers.

  2. If I ran an oil company I would not be taking this stuff lying down. People need to be reminded what fossil fuels have done for humanity.

    Stop sucking up to the green blob.

    • Alberta should shut down ALL oil going to BC and then negotiate a pipeline deal.

      Then do the same to Quebec.

      These lying parasites deserve worse, but in Alberta we are civilized.

      • Hey, we’re not all eco-wingnuts. Probably a third of us in BC either moved here from Alberta or Saskatchewan, or at least one of our parents did. Not only that… based on the number of Alberta license plates I see driving around BC highways every day, the ratio would go UP if you shut down all oil going to BC because they don’t carry enough fuel for the return trip.

        Among our problems are (i) that the eco-wingnuts are so vocal, (ii) the MSM especially CBC cultivates the false impression that we’re all like them, and (iii) every decade or two we have to vote out our less wacky government and the only viable alternative is the NDP. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think you nice folks in AB can relate to that last one.

        As for Quebec… I have half a mind to agree with the AB premier who said, “Let the bastards freeze in the dark.” Yet… every once in awhile I get the feeling that we in BC and AB have more in common with QC than we like to admit – an oversized and arrogant and intrusive and incompetent federal government.

        • @Nick “– an oversized and arrogant and intrusive and incompetent federal government.”

          Sounds like the same problem we have in the U.S.

        • Good comments Nick – thank you.

          The foreign-financed anti-pipeline thugs have cost Canada more than $120 billion to date. That compares to the $250 billion invested in Alberta since about year 2000 during the oil sands boom.

          Tax transfers from Alberta to the Rest of Canada (mostly Quebec) total over $600,000 per Alberta-family-of-four (Mansell et al, University of Calgary), or more than $1 million per Alberta family including nominal interest. Albertans have carried the entire country financially for over 50 years yet these parasites spit on us.

          The only person to ever hurt Albertans more than Justin Trudeau was his father Pierre, with his incredibly destructive National Energy Policy. Trudeau père et fils are both far-left socialists, who consistently put the interests of their home province of Quebec ahead of the interests of our country.

          Talk of Alberta independence is growing again, but that is not the best answer. We missed a great opportunity when Quebec wanted to separate from Canada – we should have encouraged them go, and kept the Seaway, the West half of Montreal and all the land south of the Ottawa and St. Lawrence Rivers for Canada. Quebec would keep the land to the North, except Rupert’s Land, and assume half the National Debt.

          I was born in Montreal and lived my first 20 years in small-town French Quebec. I have followed this situation my entire life, and it is untenable. Quebec has overplayed its hand – it is all take and no give, a pure parasite – and a constructive divorce is the best solution.

          • “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”…

            More power to you, Allan. We out here in the American West have similar problems with our Federal parasites.

          • Beautiful words, WB.

            I am hopeful for the future of the USA, and you may even lead the rest of the world back into the light.

            Best wishes to you and yours for the Holidays!

            Allan in Calgary

      • “…the concept of unintended consequences” I’ve found that Leftist take a static view of situations. Changes always have ripple effects, some of them are unintended.

        • Yes, but as they say, a leftists is someone who sees something work in practice, and argues that it doesn’t work in theory…

          • To the left, the fact that imperfect people are not able to create a perfect economy is proof that the imperfect people who run government need to step in and do it for them.

  3. Nothing like a Reality Check that is delivered upside the head. There’s hope for our hoser friends, it looks like.

  4. Grovel, grovel. There mere fact that he thought it was worth having a go shows just how arrogant alarmists have become. Well, fact, Mr Mayor, Whistler was once snowless. Also, give us some proof of your slimy assertion that Albertan oil companies are responsible for something that you cannot even show has happened. FFS Mr Mayor, start thinking for yourself. Don’t be an organic bot.

  5. The liberal mindest has real trouble when actions have consequences. They feel so superior it comes as a real shock when reality smacks them in the face.

    • If you ask me, the oil companies have already conceded too much to the Green banditry by including statements about “ethical energy” and “emissions intensity”.

    • I don’t see how it is a simple form of extortion, it seems like plain old finagling that went wrong since these municipalities clearly don’t have any leverage or they would have used it in the form of legislation, taxes, fees, licenses and fines.

      In this case, they stepped on a rake. Whereas simple finagling, the worst that can happen is that the request is denied. Here, the request was phrased as a demand. Apparently the mayor had weak parents since a child quickly learns that there is a difference in response between a request for a cookie and a demand for one.

  6. And if it snows more, will they have to pay compensation to the oil company? As we KNOW, global warming causes more snow!

    • I like your idea. They should draft up a ‘bilateral agreement’. It wouldn’t even have to be strictly monetary, they could do it with assets. More snow and the Oil Co acquires deeds to bungalows at the resort… less snow and the Ski Resort is deeded oil and gas wells. It’s like a futures contract without the money-sapping commissions to middlemen and the conversion costs that large stock and cash transactions are subject.

      The most satisfying confidence games to witness are where one side thinks it is advantaging the other and ends up being fleeced by simple reality that anyone could have foreseen.

    • Until we start having less snow again – then it will be “consistent with” THAT. Global warming is very chameleon-like that way. LMFAO

      • Indeed.

        Here in Toronto, global warming was stated as the reason for flooding last year. Models said this is the new normal, we have to do stuff about it.

        Four years ago, global warming was stated as the reason for low water levels. Models said this is the new normal, we have to do stuff about it (glad we didn’t spend billions dredging those channels, or giving tax money to (rich) pleasure boat owners who complained the docks at their (second homes/cottages) were now usesless…

  7. Technically it is not the oil company that produces the co2. It is the consumers of the oil.

    The oil company is not forcing the buyers of its product to actually burn the oil.

    The ski resort needs to sue the correct party, meaning sue the ski customers that arrive in suvs.

  8. So the Clime Syndicate made an offer that could be refused. One small battle won in the $122 trillion shakedown war.

  9. Hilarious.

    Just like the celebrities with a personal carbon footprint the size of a small country telling us we have to reduce our CO2 emissions.

    • BC Hydro provides something like 97% of the province’s electricity. So their claim to be “green” is somewhat true… if you ignore the large amounts of coal production (over half of the total mineral production revenues in the province) and even larger amount of coal exports (they transship US coal along with their own coal). As well, BC has a number of projects – LNG ports and pipeline – in the works, so they are more than willing to produce and export their own fossil fuels. It’s just Alberta oil that they don’t like. The current BC administration is profoundly hypocritical. Everyone knows that, and many in the BC and Canadian Federal administrations applaud it. I don’t know how it will play out in the coming years, but Canada is more divided and dysfunctional than ever.

  10. According to Wills’ analysis of the “Social Benefits of Carbon” the oil industry should send the mayor an invoice for the benefits awarded Whistler as a result of Climate change.

  11. A few years ago, Whistler-Blackcomb posted a self-produced video on their web, site lamenting man-made climate change. As the video was hosted on YouTube, I posted a polite and structured comment arguing the main reasons why there was nothing to worry about. My comment was promptly removed. It’s telling of the power of the global warming meme when even ski areas are promoting it. Here is another example of a ski area promoting man-made climate change, from the Aspen resort web site. Take note of the irony of the CO² graph :

    https://www.aspensnowmass.com/we-are-different/take-action

  12. Funny that Whistler did not send a bill to Metropolitan Vancouver for having the largest coal export terminal in North America. Vancouver is facilitating the use of coal. Surely Vancouver should pay?

    Oh I’m told this coal is clean, green, BC-eco coal.

  13. Alan is right, go to Banff. One July while in Calgary on business, I went there and took the Forestry Trunk Road north to Jasper and got snowed on. I don’t recommend that road unless you like thrills, dust, and incredible scenery. Oh, don’t tell the car rental company that you did it….. 😉

  14. “Whistler’s flirtation with the hydrogen highway has come to the end of the road. The municipality accepted 20 hydrogen fuel cell-powered buses to showcase the technology in the lead-up to the 2010 Olympics, but the program comes to an end in March and the buses are being replaced with diesel.”
    (2013 article)
    The hydrogen was shipped in from Quebec.
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/whistlers-hydrogen-buses-to-be-scrapped-replaced-by-diesel/article15900241/

    • “Engines powered by hydrogen fuel cells produce zero greenhouse-gas emissions; their only by-product is water”

      Last time I checked water vapour is a BIGGLE greenhouse-gas……..

      • Indeed. A few years ago, there was a car commercial for one of those “vapourware” concept cars that will run magically on hydrogen, and emit “only” a small glass of water per trip.

        Which will evaporate.

        Causing more water vapour.

        Much like the argument that millions of bison didn’t fart, I don’t think they thought this stuff through.

  15. “Andrew Gage, a lawyer with the firm, said the goal was to start a conversation about who ought to pay for the effects of climate change.”
    Fine, and CNRL finished said “conversation”. LOL.

    • This is an interesting example of how they work. The activist organization Western Environmental Law Centre, where Andrew Gage works, thought up this action and convinced members of the Union of BC Municipalities to move forward on it. This ‘Union’ is an element of UN Local Agenda 21 in BC. Once Gage got some of its members to sign on, they all acted in unison. Unfortunately for Whistler, the media spotlighted that town because the oil companies they were harassing responded in kind and that made a good story. The whole thing now begs the question of who actually funds Western Environmental?

      Well, their website isn’t extremely detailed on that, but some of the usual suspects like Tides can be found.
      It seems there are a lot of ‘useful idiots’ signing up for municipal government.

        • Tides Canada is US funded.

          Americans complain about Russian meddling but don’t hesitate to meddle in Canada when it suits them.

          • Yes, but when THEY do it, its all part of the international intersectionality…something or other where they point out that everything their opponents believe in is because we are inbred, uneducated provincial know-nothings and our culture (although it is in the majority) isn’t worth preserving. So we have to spend all our time and resources on protecting every last niche idea and community there is. Even if they have to make them up.

            Just don’t call them communists…

  16. ALLAN MACRAE
    If you had ever skied the very light and very deep powder at Alta, up Little Cottonwood Canyon from Salt Lake City, you would have put it first.
    My first skiing from a lift system was at Norquay.
    When my pants were baggy and my face was smooth.
    Later, it was the opposite.
    And when I last skied, both were baggy.

  17. Canadian oil and gas has been specifically targeted in a massive scorched earth campaign by American activists and we are being destroyed by $10 oil (vs. $55-ish WTI). We have hundreds of thousands of layoffs in western Canada with no change in oil demand. This is a crisi right now manufactured by environmental extremists, and we could use all the help we can get. Btw, the letter from Whistlers mayor came originally from an American enviro activist campaign which he put on town letterhead. He said it himself.

    • Unfortunately, I expect those American activists hit a wall in the U.S. and then decided to try to take out the smaller guys in Canada first. They may have even had help in the form of cash from some petroleum organization in the U.S. American coal companies were attacked by green groups using funds from a natural gas producer in 2012. With a Democrat President helping, the campaign had a real effect on the coal industry. It did not matter that the campaign was one of lies and trick photography.

  18. Having skied the majority of major ski resorts in North America, Banff is my first choice. Being on the semi desert side of the Rockies it gets dry snow and the elevation is reasonable, mostly under 9000 feet except for the highest points at Sunshine. Whistler being only a half hour and 2500 vertical feet above the the ocean gets much wetter snow, especially on the lower half of the mountains. I still marvel at the ski industry folks who sign on to climate change. They are trying to sell condos and homes in the mountains while telling prospects the snow will be gone in a few years. There is even a group called POW (Protect Our Winters) on a fool’s errand that is supported by many in the industry. Not exactly bright.

  19. If you want to know how bad it is in western Canada, google Rachel Notley, the left wing premier of Alberta, and look at how much of a pipeline crusader she has become. Or Alberta separation from Canada (or Saskatchewan) the polling is I think over 50% in both provinces. Notley instituted a government mandated production cut, which sent our WCS oil from $10 to $30, vs. $55 WTI, but of course, we’re producing less. Big American Green has destroyed our economy while doing nothing for oil demand, by choking off the pipelines.

    • Almost every ad on Canadian TV these days that isn’t Christmas-related is from the Alberta government about how cute and fluffy the pipeline is.

  20. This mayor is another quack. Not one shred of thinking going into his comments.

    Just to put it in perspective, the previous mayor chastised all the people that come to Whistler from Vancouver because they brought their own lunch and didn’t spend enough money there…

    Which is of course pretty damn funny. It was families from Vancouver that made Whistler. Developed it. And some of those families still go there that started it back in the early 60s. (I know some of them)

    The problem is in the mayors office. Asking for money for “climate change” in a mountain town is the height of drug fueled quackery.

    I don’t blame you guys from Alberta being pissed. I live in Vancouver but have always considered Calgary a second home. So I get it. The problem we all have is a lack of adult supervision at pretty much every level of government in this country.

    The ballot box is our best weapon.

  21. If I had to decide for society how to reduce CO2 emissions, closing ski resorts would be right near the top of my list. Lots of travel required, lots of heating of vacation homes, lots of electricity to run the ski lifts. And all absolutely unnecessary.

    • Yeah there’s the true irony of all this. An entity that owns a SKI RESORT wants to blather about “climate change?!” Might as well be a gas station owner…but then again those are at least NEEDED, unlike “ski resorts.”

  22. Some 30 years ago I spoke in Whistler and the person running Blackcomb was worried about global warming because he was planning an expansion. I told him what would happen. He expanded and made a lot of money – never gave me a nickel. They can all go down hill as far was I am concerned. For me I don’t ski anymore , I don’t need to go to the mountains to go down hill.

  23. One days when this trick is pulled the oil companies are just going to say ‘OK we will no longer supply you with any of our ‘evil products ‘
    Followed by a sudden rush to the store to buy toilet roll and clear underwear from the newly liberated from ‘evil oil products ‘people that tired this trick in the first place.

  24. I wonder how all the Whistler customers get to Whistler? The letter was part of a campaign organised by yet another outside-Canada environmental group West Coast Environmental Law trying to help us dumb Canadians do the ‘right’ thing.

  25. Commentary in Tuesday’s newspaper…

    Daphne Bramham: Whistler politicians intent on biting the hands that feed them
    Like it or not, they’re in a resort municipality whose success or failure depends on outsiders.
    The tone-deafness and hypocrisy of Whistler politicians is almost as breathtaking as the mountain scenery and the ski resort’s 1,530-metre vertical drop.

    https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/daphne-bramham-whistler-politicians-intent-on-biting-the-hands-that-feed-them

  26. The only reason oil companies produce their evil product is because of consumer demand, which would include the clueless mayor and his councillors, every person who lives in Whistler and every customer who travels there for conferences or recreation.

    So if they’re really concerned about burning fossil fuels, they would ban the use of them entirely in Whistler before looking any farther for miscreants.

    The mayor is even more brain dead than the average global warming doomsayer.

  27. Whistler blackcomb was purchased by Vail resorts. Which pretty much explains how they came up with such a goofy policy.

    The mountain is Canadian but the policies are american.

  28. A few comments from a long-time [50+ years] Whistler-Blackcomb skier:

    Despite W-B’s upscale image, its voting population of well under 10,000 is decidedly left-leaning and uber-green resulting in the unopposed acclamation of the current misguided mayor who has had to backtrack and apologize for his letter following the cancellation of the oil and gas portion of an investor’s conference at a scheduled conference in the resort. Like some other politicians, he was sucked in by a green NGO to send the letter.

    The irony here is that virtually every skier, snow boarder and summer mountain biker or tourist who visits Whistler travels some 260 round-trip kilometres [160 miles] from Vancouver, BC to get there via mostly fossil-fuelled automobiles or buses because there is no local airport nor is there any passenger rail service. Also, of course, many of these visitors drive much further, primarily from the US Pacific Northwest, or travel thousands of miles by air from international locations via Vancouver’s YVR airport.

    The only “global warming” issue faced by W-B has been occasional very early season WEATHER as was the case this year, with somewhat lower than normal precipitation and slightly higher temperatures which have limited lower elevation snow accumulation. However, the snow report for December 18, 2018, less than a month after this year’s opening day, states that the present mid-mountain, on the ground snow base is just under 7 feet and total daily snowfall for the season to date is 12 feet, so much for the mayor’s issues.

    As noted in some other posts, the letter in question has nothing to do with Vail Resorts, the U.S. company that now owns and operates the resort. Following its acquisition of the resort for some $1.4 billion in 2016, Vail has made significant further investments, including $166 million in expanded lift facilities over the past year. Clearly, Vail doesn’t share the mayor’s concerns.

    Apologies if this post repeats points already made, I’ve not had time to read all the comments.

  29. So how “bad” has it been this year at Whistler/Blackcomb? Just checked, almost 144 inches of snow so far this year, 84 this week alone, with more snow to come.

    Pretty good, especially for an El Nino winter. Some ski areas in the Northwest were a little bit late opening, though I don’t know about Whistler, but things are looking good now.

  30. That idiot Notely wants to buy 80 train engines and 7000 oil rail cars to move oil because BC is blocking pipelines, along with the usual eco terrorist outfits, who are funded by the usual foundations. She should be buying tanks, artillery and planes, and putting the pipelines through at the head of a column of tanks. Enough is enough.

  31. These folks are never wrong. They don’t make mistakes. It’s Jim Comey’s fault, or is it the electoral college, so many (other) people to blame.

  32. From Australia, the disappointment of no snow again this Christmas on the slopes of Ayer’s Rock.
    It is hard for snow when the daily maximum is over 100F day after day, but modelling might show the possibility of sub-zero nights yielding snow in other months. Geoff.

  33. Did Atlas just shrug!!! I hope the Petroleum industry is inspired to start boycotting these places and put a stop to this stuff. Unfortunately they partly ruined it by telling they had already wasted 3 billion on climate change! I could have done something actually useful with that kind of cash. That 3 billion came out of fuel consumers pockets. Grow an even bigger pair and stop trying to buy these irredeemable idiots’ love.

  34. “Andrew Gage, a lawyer with the firm, said the goal was to start a conversation about who ought to pay for the effects of climate change.”

    Looks like he’s just started the conversation as to who is going to pay for all of the cancellations ! Time these bloodsucker ambulance chasers faced up to the responsibilities of their crass demands!

    That said, Whistler snow sucks … way better resorts inland without huge rude crowds of drugged up idiots.

  35. The reality is that the climate change that we have been experiencing is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. The fossil fuel companies have nothing to do with it. So the party of sue for damages is Mother Nature. Lost of luck collecting on a judgement against Mother Nature.

  36. The BC Liberal Government stood by for years as British Columbia became the money laundering
    destination of choice by drug dealers and Chinese trying to get their money out of their country .
    The same Liberal government imposed a carbon tax while being cheered on by left wing academic losers but
    citizens have really jumped the shark and gone hard left with the Green party and outright socialist NDP .
    Alberta has been subsidizing other Provinces for years .In return they get a drama teacher Prime Minister
    who hates fossil fuel and thinks humans are going to control the earths thermostat . Mr. Dress Up also lives in a world where he believes budgets balance themselves . The fact that his government deficits are double what he predicted two years ago is really rather immaterial in the silver spoon word of indexed pensions virtue signalers .

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