Shot and chaser in Whistler

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Whistler ski resort in British Columbia Canada tried to extort money from the oil industry because of climate change effects to their resort.

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/whistler-wants-albertan-oil-and-gas-company-to-pay-for-resorts-climate-change-costs

Chaser

The oil company fired back and cancelled meeting reservations. Then the mayor of Whistler did an about face and is trying to suck up to the oil company.

https://calgarysun.com/news/local-news/cibc-cancels-oil-and-gas-conference-in-whistler-as-mayor-apologizes-for-climate-change-letter/wcm/0706a359-bb87-4b5d-a985-645e4e00b976

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December 18, 2018 2:11 am

That is such a nice shirt story; more power to the people and less to those on the other side of the hill

Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
December 18, 2018 4:09 am

Boycott those phony-green BC plicks at Whistler.

Ski the best snow! Banff Alberta is just one hour from Calgary and has consistently better snow than Whistler. Banff is one of four contiguous National Parks, with a total area greater than all of Switzerland – yes, bigger than that entire country! Lift lines are short – not like the long lines elsewhere.

I suggest Sunshine and Lake Louise, but there are also great hills at Norquay, Nakiska and others.

Sunshine is highest, right on the Continental Divide, and has all-natural snow. Stay on the hill, or Banff is nearby, with the legendary Fairmont Banff Springs Hotel and many others.

Louise has the most runs and is close to Fairmont Chateau Lake Louise and the Post Hotel – it’s a member of Relais et Chateaux – recommended for gourmets.

Norquay, located right at Banff has some of the steepest runs in the world – and also some easy runs.

Nakiska was the site of the downhill and slalom events at the 1988 Winter Olympics – a really nice hill.

For learners, one of the best ski schools anywhere is right in Calgary, at the little hill at Canada Olympic Park. There is also the Olympic bobsled run, where you can take a ride, carefully supervised. There is also a tube park, several indoor skating rinks, and a pleasant lounge where Chrissy and Melody will take good care of you.

There are plenty of cross-country trails, including the Olympic site at Canmore, between Calgary and Banff.

So come on and visit us – fly into Calgary, head an hour west to Banff, and ski the best snow anywhere!

Happy Holidays, Allan

Gary Mount
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
December 18, 2018 5:20 am

I have skied Banff and Lake Louise. Had a paid trip for Sunshine but had to skip because of work commitments.
I’ve skied Whistler (don’t recall if it was Blackcomb or Whistler Mountain). Skied Seymour near Vancouver, Manning, Mount Washington on Vancouver Island, Baker in Washington state.

Watched and photographed the Jamaican bob sled team at the 88 Calgary olympics. Watched the East German hockey team play.
I have never seen a professional hockey game live in my whole life.

Took a lot of fossil fuels to do all that skiing.

Reply to  Gary Mount
December 18, 2018 6:03 am

Hi Gary,

The ski jumps are still at Canada Olympic Park although they are not longer in use.

Eddie the Eagle (UK) came last in the 70m and 90m events, but it took a lot of courage to just compete and ski down those huge towers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_the_Eagle

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
December 18, 2018 8:26 am

Allan

Still a national hero in the UK for just having the guts to do it.

MarkW
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
December 18, 2018 9:03 am

I’ve always admired the fans who have the fortitude to stay at the venue so that they can cheer on even the last place finishers.

Jeff Mitchell
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
December 18, 2018 10:28 am

Both Eddie the eagle and the Jamaican bobsled team got more attention than the winners because of their underdog status.

The IOC then changed the rules to prevent someone like Eddie participating. The Olympics is just big business sports now, and I don’t pay much attention on account of that.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
December 18, 2018 7:20 pm

The Olympics hasn’t been about sporting talent for a very long time. Similar to The Eurovision Song Contest hasn’t been about about singing. All politics and money.

2SoonOld2Late Smart
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
December 18, 2018 9:12 pm

He made another landing in Calgary this last summer in the evening grandstand show at the Calgary Stampede.

Eddy the Eagle coming in for a landing//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js

Stu
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
December 18, 2018 5:46 am

I am going to save your wonderful tour guide for my trip thru the Canadian rockies! Priceless and thanks.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
December 18, 2018 2:01 pm

Allan,

I was a ski bum in Banff for several years. Great skiing!

I still have my 35000 vertical feet skiied from Mt Norquay badge and a Gold Molestar medal where I trounced the pace setter.

Those were the days:)

Cheers

Roger

Sara
Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
December 18, 2018 5:54 am

They could also go to Wyoming. Base layers of 33″ or more, and more expected.

Isn’t this ‘gimme, gimme, gimme’ demand kind of cutting of your nose to spite your face, or something like that?

Curious George
Reply to  Sara
December 18, 2018 7:18 am

Or Salt Lake City. Before skiing there I did not even know what a snow could be. Winds blow over the lake, and then deposit the finest imaginable snow on the mountains. Lake effect, like Buffalo, but in the middle of a desert.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Curious George
December 18, 2018 7:42 am

Champaign powder at Snowbird. I have taken full face shots there coming down the back bowl.

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  Rud Istvan
December 18, 2018 7:52 pm

Try skiing Snoqualmie Pass in Washington State. (The snow there is called wet cement!)

Steve Keohane
Reply to  Sara
December 18, 2018 8:01 am

Colorado has 24 resorts open now.
http://www.skicentral.com/colorado-skireport.html

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
December 18, 2018 7:32 am

As I’ve mentioned before, many people are taking the attitude of taking out ball and bat and going home. (This is a North American sports analogy: when growing up, many groups of kids would have baseball gloves, but be short of a ball or a bat. One lucky kid would have one, but would threaten to go home if they didn’t get to play).

I’ve told numerous charities and community groups that I don’t go where I’m not wanted, and my money (and time) certainly don’t go where I’m not wanted. Want to make a big deal that straight white males are the most evil people in the universe, creators of nothing but misery and pain? Bye.

Let the SJWs of the world unite, and start paying their own way.

Michael
Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
December 19, 2018 11:23 am

I know!…I kinda teared up a bit…I kinda gotta warm and fuzzy feeling, must the Christmas season, making me sentimental…*sniff*

I swore I heard a bell…guess a angel got its wings…

Way too funny…cheers.

Jules
December 18, 2018 2:11 am

If I ran an oil company I would not be taking this stuff lying down. People need to be reminded what fossil fuels have done for humanity.

Stop sucking up to the green blob.

Reply to  Jules
December 18, 2018 6:46 am

Alberta should shut down ALL oil going to BC and then negotiate a pipeline deal.

Then do the same to Quebec.

These lying parasites deserve worse, but in Alberta we are civilized.

Nick Werner
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
December 18, 2018 9:14 am

Hey, we’re not all eco-wingnuts. Probably a third of us in BC either moved here from Alberta or Saskatchewan, or at least one of our parents did. Not only that… based on the number of Alberta license plates I see driving around BC highways every day, the ratio would go UP if you shut down all oil going to BC because they don’t carry enough fuel for the return trip.

Among our problems are (i) that the eco-wingnuts are so vocal, (ii) the MSM especially CBC cultivates the false impression that we’re all like them, and (iii) every decade or two we have to vote out our less wacky government and the only viable alternative is the NDP. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think you nice folks in AB can relate to that last one.

As for Quebec… I have half a mind to agree with the AB premier who said, “Let the bastards freeze in the dark.” Yet… every once in awhile I get the feeling that we in BC and AB have more in common with QC than we like to admit – an oversized and arrogant and intrusive and incompetent federal government.

Ernest Bush
Reply to  Nick Werner
December 18, 2018 9:31 am

“– an oversized and arrogant and intrusive and incompetent federal government.”

Sounds like the same problem we have in the U.S.

AGW is not Science
Reply to  Ernest Bush
December 18, 2018 9:42 am

Indeed. Despite the best efforts of some.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Ernest Bush
December 18, 2018 7:33 pm

We have that times 3 in Australia. Local, state and federal.

Reply to  Nick Werner
December 19, 2018 3:14 am

Good comments Nick – thank you.

The foreign-financed anti-pipeline thugs have cost Canada more than $120 billion to date. That compares to the $250 billion invested in Alberta since about year 2000 during the oil sands boom.

Tax transfers from Alberta to the Rest of Canada (mostly Quebec) total over $600,000 per Alberta-family-of-four (Mansell et al, University of Calgary), or more than $1 million per Alberta family including nominal interest. Albertans have carried the entire country financially for over 50 years yet these parasites spit on us.

The only person to ever hurt Albertans more than Justin Trudeau was his father Pierre, with his incredibly destructive National Energy Policy. Trudeau père et fils are both far-left socialists, who consistently put the interests of their home province of Quebec ahead of the interests of our country.

Talk of Alberta independence is growing again, but that is not the best answer. We missed a great opportunity when Quebec wanted to separate from Canada – we should have encouraged them go, and kept the Seaway, the West half of Montreal and all the land south of the Ottawa and St. Lawrence Rivers for Canada. Quebec would keep the land to the North, except Rupert’s Land, and assume half the National Debt.

I was born in Montreal and lived my first 20 years in small-town French Quebec. I have followed this situation my entire life, and it is untenable. Quebec has overplayed its hand – it is all take and no give, a pure parasite – and a constructive divorce is the best solution.

WBWilson
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
December 19, 2018 6:51 am

“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”…

More power to you, Allan. We out here in the American West have similar problems with our Federal parasites.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
December 19, 2018 12:17 pm

Beautiful words, WB.

I am hopeful for the future of the USA, and you may even lead the rest of the world back into the light.

Best wishes to you and yours for the Holidays!

Allan in Calgary

December 18, 2018 2:12 am

Sorry for typo – short story

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
December 18, 2018 6:30 am

I figured you were just making a fashion statement.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
December 18, 2018 2:16 pm

Clear in context.

3¢Worth
December 18, 2018 2:15 am

I think the ski resort is just Whistling Dixie!

MarkW
Reply to  3¢Worth
December 18, 2018 6:56 am

Leftists have never been able to grasp the concept of unintended consequences.

Another Paul
Reply to  MarkW
December 18, 2018 10:01 am

“…the concept of unintended consequences” I’ve found that Leftist take a static view of situations. Changes always have ripple effects, some of them are unintended.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Another Paul
December 18, 2018 10:04 am

Yes, but as they say, a leftists is someone who sees something work in practice, and argues that it doesn’t work in theory…

MarkW
Reply to  Caligula Jones
December 18, 2018 10:32 am

To the left, the fact that imperfect people are not able to create a perfect economy is proof that the imperfect people who run government need to step in and do it for them.

MangoChutney
December 18, 2018 2:17 am

Too fracking funny

Ron Long
December 18, 2018 2:19 am

Nothing like a Reality Check that is delivered upside the head. There’s hope for our hoser friends, it looks like.

Steve
December 18, 2018 2:20 am

HO HO HO! Be careful of what you ask for….

4 Eyes
December 18, 2018 2:25 am

Grovel, grovel. There mere fact that he thought it was worth having a go shows just how arrogant alarmists have become. Well, fact, Mr Mayor, Whistler was once snowless. Also, give us some proof of your slimy assertion that Albertan oil companies are responsible for something that you cannot even show has happened. FFS Mr Mayor, start thinking for yourself. Don’t be an organic bot.

yarpos
December 18, 2018 2:34 am

The liberal mindest has real trouble when actions have consequences. They feel so superior it comes as a real shock when reality smacks them in the face.

saveenergy
December 18, 2018 2:34 am

All the oil & coal companys should agree to cease supply to blackmailers,

Alan Robertson
Reply to  saveenergy
December 18, 2018 4:13 am

If you ask me, the oil companies have already conceded too much to the Green banditry by including statements about “ethical energy” and “emissions intensity”.

A C Osborn
December 18, 2018 2:38 am

It is a form of extortion and it is great to see it shot down by reciprcation.

AWG
Reply to  A C Osborn
December 18, 2018 4:33 am

I don’t see how it is a simple form of extortion, it seems like plain old finagling that went wrong since these municipalities clearly don’t have any leverage or they would have used it in the form of legislation, taxes, fees, licenses and fines.

In this case, they stepped on a rake. Whereas simple finagling, the worst that can happen is that the request is denied. Here, the request was phrased as a demand. Apparently the mayor had weak parents since a child quickly learns that there is a difference in response between a request for a cookie and a demand for one.

Franz Dullaart
December 18, 2018 2:48 am

And if it snows more, will they have to pay compensation to the oil company? As we KNOW, global warming causes more snow!

Hocus Locus
Reply to  Franz Dullaart
December 18, 2018 3:40 am

I like your idea. They should draft up a ‘bilateral agreement’. It wouldn’t even have to be strictly monetary, they could do it with assets. More snow and the Oil Co acquires deeds to bungalows at the resort… less snow and the Ski Resort is deeded oil and gas wells. It’s like a futures contract without the money-sapping commissions to middlemen and the conversion costs that large stock and cash transactions are subject.

The most satisfying confidence games to witness are where one side thinks it is advantaging the other and ends up being fleeced by simple reality that anyone could have foreseen.

Reply to  Hocus Locus
December 18, 2018 5:32 pm

I see you are aware of Paul Erlich. I’m amazed he still has his posh job despite a lifetime of wrong answers.

AGW is not Science
Reply to  Franz Dullaart
December 18, 2018 9:45 am

Until we start having less snow again – then it will be “consistent with” THAT. Global warming is very chameleon-like that way. LMFAO

Caligula Jones
Reply to  AGW is not Science
December 18, 2018 9:59 am

Indeed.

Here in Toronto, global warming was stated as the reason for flooding last year. Models said this is the new normal, we have to do stuff about it.

Four years ago, global warming was stated as the reason for low water levels. Models said this is the new normal, we have to do stuff about it (glad we didn’t spend billions dredging those channels, or giving tax money to (rich) pleasure boat owners who complained the docks at their (second homes/cottages) were now usesless…

Les Francis
December 18, 2018 4:05 am

Ye Olde Unintended Consequences

Stevek
December 18, 2018 4:09 am

Technically it is not the oil company that produces the co2. It is the consumers of the oil.

The oil company is not forcing the buyers of its product to actually burn the oil.

The ski resort needs to sue the correct party, meaning sue the ski customers that arrive in suvs.

Ken
Reply to  Stevek
December 18, 2018 5:28 am

Perfect 10!

WXcycles
Reply to  Stevek
December 18, 2018 5:53 am

Why pretend it matters?

The CO2 is harmless.

The END

J Mac
Reply to  WXcycles
December 18, 2018 9:45 am

Just so, WXcycles! +100
Everything else is just an extension from the original fraudulent claim that CO2 is ‘pollution’.

Chris Morrison
December 18, 2018 4:16 am

So the Clime Syndicate made an offer that could be refused. One small battle won in the $122 trillion shakedown war.

Critical Mass
December 18, 2018 4:18 am

#CeeOhToo. Greenhouse harassment.

BillP
December 18, 2018 4:30 am

Hilarious.

Just like the celebrities with a personal carbon footprint the size of a small country telling us we have to reduce our CO2 emissions.

ozspeaksup
December 18, 2018 4:37 am

and what powers those ski lifts?
thick as a brick that mayor

Gary Mount
Reply to  ozspeaksup
December 18, 2018 5:05 am

In BC it’s mostly hydro electric power.

oakgeo
Reply to  ozspeaksup
December 18, 2018 12:09 pm

BC Hydro provides something like 97% of the province’s electricity. So their claim to be “green” is somewhat true… if you ignore the large amounts of coal production (over half of the total mineral production revenues in the province) and even larger amount of coal exports (they transship US coal along with their own coal). As well, BC has a number of projects – LNG ports and pipeline – in the works, so they are more than willing to produce and export their own fossil fuels. It’s just Alberta oil that they don’t like. The current BC administration is profoundly hypocritical. Everyone knows that, and many in the BC and Canadian Federal administrations applaud it. I don’t know how it will play out in the coming years, but Canada is more divided and dysfunctional than ever.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  oakgeo
December 18, 2018 12:12 pm

Yeah, about those “clean” dams:

https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2016/nov/06/hydropower-hydroelectricity-methane-clean-climate-change-study

“Hydroelectric dams are a rich source of greenhouse gas emissions, but the emissions aren’t part of global greenhouse gas inventories”

Sounds like “Hollywood math”, doesn’t it?

nc
Reply to  oakgeo
December 18, 2018 12:53 pm

What is funny the electricity to Whistler at night has a good chance of being coal power sourced. Hydro tends to buy coal power from the states. BC Hydro backs off their hydro electric power at night to import this cheap coal power. During the day the white arabs, BC Hydro, sells their very cheap to produce hydro electric power at a marked up price back to the US.

At night when load demand is down coal fired plants do not like backing off generation so would rather almost give the power away than reduce generation.

lb
Reply to  nc
December 18, 2018 1:46 pm

“the white arabs”
+97

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  oakgeo
December 18, 2018 2:46 pm

The BC gov is controlled by 3 wacky greens.

Ron
December 18, 2018 4:55 am

According to Wills’ analysis of the “Social Benefits of Carbon” the oil industry should send the mayor an invoice for the benefits awarded Whistler as a result of Climate change.

BernardP
December 18, 2018 4:59 am

A few years ago, Whistler-Blackcomb posted a self-produced video on their web, site lamenting man-made climate change. As the video was hosted on YouTube, I posted a polite and structured comment arguing the main reasons why there was nothing to worry about. My comment was promptly removed. It’s telling of the power of the global warming meme when even ski areas are promoting it. Here is another example of a ski area promoting man-made climate change, from the Aspen resort web site. Take note of the irony of the CO² graph :

https://www.aspensnowmass.com/we-are-different/take-action

WBWilson
Reply to  BernardP
December 19, 2018 7:11 am

Ahh Aspen… With more private jet traffic than any other town of comparable size. The carbon footprint of the elite eco-progressive hypocrites is staggering:

https://www.aspentimes.com/news/county-starts-small-on-plans-for-aspen-airport/

Caligula Jones
Reply to  WBWilson
December 19, 2018 8:47 am

I work under the landing path of “Toronto’s” Pearson airport (only in quotes because its actually in another city).

Every September, I watch as dozens of private jets zoom in for the Toronto International Film Festival.

I wonder if any of them contain a Leo di Caprio…

joe
December 18, 2018 5:14 am

Funny that Whistler did not send a bill to Metropolitan Vancouver for having the largest coal export terminal in North America. Vancouver is facilitating the use of coal. Surely Vancouver should pay?

Oh I’m told this coal is clean, green, BC-eco coal.

Gary Ashe
December 18, 2018 5:19 am

Tell em to go whistle for their dough.

Yooper
December 18, 2018 5:22 am

Alan is right, go to Banff. One July while in Calgary on business, I went there and took the Forestry Trunk Road north to Jasper and got snowed on. I don’t recommend that road unless you like thrills, dust, and incredible scenery. Oh, don’t tell the car rental company that you did it….. 😉

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Yooper
December 19, 2018 8:51 am

Yeah, we did that with the North shore of Maui. Too bad they have GPS now…

Gary Mount
December 18, 2018 5:28 am

“Whistler’s flirtation with the hydrogen highway has come to the end of the road. The municipality accepted 20 hydrogen fuel cell-powered buses to showcase the technology in the lead-up to the 2010 Olympics, but the program comes to an end in March and the buses are being replaced with diesel.”
(2013 article)
The hydrogen was shipped in from Quebec.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/whistlers-hydrogen-buses-to-be-scrapped-replaced-by-diesel/article15900241/

Curious George
Reply to  Gary Mount
December 18, 2018 7:25 am

“They cost three times as much to fuel and maintain as diesel buses.”

Lance of BC
Reply to  Gary Mount
December 18, 2018 9:52 am

“Engines powered by hydrogen fuel cells produce zero greenhouse-gas emissions; their only by-product is water”

Last time I checked water vapour is a BIGGLE greenhouse-gas……..

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Lance of BC
December 18, 2018 10:06 am

Indeed. A few years ago, there was a car commercial for one of those “vapourware” concept cars that will run magically on hydrogen, and emit “only” a small glass of water per trip.

Which will evaporate.

Causing more water vapour.

Much like the argument that millions of bison didn’t fart, I don’t think they thought this stuff through.

Bruce Cobb
December 18, 2018 5:35 am

“Andrew Gage, a lawyer with the firm, said the goal was to start a conversation about who ought to pay for the effects of climate change.”
Fine, and CNRL finished said “conversation”. LOL.

Lee L
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
December 18, 2018 6:13 am

This is an interesting example of how they work. The activist organization Western Environmental Law Centre, where Andrew Gage works, thought up this action and convinced members of the Union of BC Municipalities to move forward on it. This ‘Union’ is an element of UN Local Agenda 21 in BC. Once Gage got some of its members to sign on, they all acted in unison. Unfortunately for Whistler, the media spotlighted that town because the oil companies they were harassing responded in kind and that made a good story. The whole thing now begs the question of who actually funds Western Environmental?

Well, their website isn’t extremely detailed on that, but some of the usual suspects like Tides can be found.
It seems there are a lot of ‘useful idiots’ signing up for municipal government.

Lee L
Reply to  Lee L
December 18, 2018 6:28 am

My error. ..Western should read West Coast …
West Coast Environmental Law http://www.wcel.org

Reply to  Lee L
December 18, 2018 7:53 am

FYI… West Coast Environmental Law is funded by Tides Foundation.

Ferdberple
Reply to  Cam_S
December 18, 2018 11:34 am

Tides Canada is US funded.

Americans complain about Russian meddling but don’t hesitate to meddle in Canada when it suits them.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Ferdberple
December 18, 2018 11:54 am

Yes, but when THEY do it, its all part of the international intersectionality…something or other where they point out that everything their opponents believe in is because we are inbred, uneducated provincial know-nothings and our culture (although it is in the majority) isn’t worth preserving. So we have to spend all our time and resources on protecting every last niche idea and community there is. Even if they have to make them up.

Just don’t call them communists…

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