Guest essay by Eric Worrall
According to E&E News, Democrats are arguing over whether to use their new congressional majority to resurrect the Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming, or to push forward Ocasio-Cortez’s plan to take Federal control of the economy, to save the world from global warming.
Divides harden in clash over global warming committee
Nick Sobczyk, George Cahlink and Kellie Lunney, E&E News reporters
E&E Daily: Friday, November 16, 2018Many House Democrats remain skeptical of a push by leadership and progressives to revive the Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming, underscoring divisions about how to address climate change in the new Congress.
The caucus clashed in closed-door meetings this week about whether the select panel is even necessary and how much power it should have, with incoming committee chairmen looking to stake out territory on the issue.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has proposed bringing back the select panel to spotlight the issue with Democrats in control of the House, but progressives — led by Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) — are aggressively pushing for a stronger version of the climate committee that would craft a “Green New Deal” to combat climate change.
Ocasio-Cortez has a resolution in-hand that would establish a Select Committee for a Green New Deal, with the goal of crafting a comprehensive policy by 2020.
But the incoming leaders of the committees of jurisdiction on climate — namely, the Energy and Commerce; Natural Resources; and Science, Space and Technology panels — are not pleased with potentially creating a committee that could leach away their power.
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Read more: https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060106429
In my opinion it is no exaggeration to call Ocasio-Cortez’s plan a blueprint for a “Climate Change Command Economy”. From Alexandria’s website;
6. SCOPE OF THE PLAN FOR A GREEN NEW DEAL AND THE DRAFT LEGISLATION.
- The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall be developed in order to achieve the following goals, in each case in no longer than 10 years from the start of execution of the Plan:
- 100% of national power generation from renewable sources;
- building a national, energy-efficient, “smart” grid;
- upgrading every residential and industrial building for state-of-the-art energy efficiency, comfort and safety;
- decarbonizing the manufacturing, agricultural and other industries;
- decarbonizing, repairing and improving transportation and other infrastructure;
- funding massive investment in the drawdown and capture of greenhouse gases;
- making “green” technology, industry, expertise, products and services a major export of the United States, with the aim of becoming the undisputed international leader in helping other countries transition to completely carbon neutral economies and bringing about a global Green New Deal.
- The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall recognize that a national, industrial, economic mobilization of this scope and scale is a historic opportunity to virtually eliminate poverty in the United States and to make prosperity, wealth and economic security available to everyone participating in the transformation. In furtherance of the foregoing, the Plan (and the draft legislation) shall:
- provide all members of our society, across all regions and all communities, the opportunity, training and education to be a full and equal participant in the transition, including through a job guarantee program to assure a living wage job to every person who wants one;
- take into account and be responsive to the historical and present-day experiences of low-income communities, communities of color, indigenous communities, rural and urban communities and the front-line communities most affected by climate change, pollution and other environmental harm;
- mitigate deeply entrenched racial, regional and gender-based inequalities in income and wealth (including, without limitation, ensuring that federal and other investment will be equitably distributed to historically impoverished, low income, deindustrialized or other marginalized communities);
- include additional measures such as basic income programs, universal health care programs and any others as the select committee may deem appropriate to promote economic security, labor market flexibility and entrepreneurism; and>
- deeply involve national and local labor unions to take a leadership role in the process of job training and worker deployment.
- The Plan for a Green New Deal (and the draft legislation) shall recognize that innovative public and other financing structures are a crucial component in achieving and furthering the goals and guidelines relating to social, economic, racial, regional and gender-based justice and equality and cooperative and public ownership set forth in paragraphs (2)(A)(i) and (6)(B). The Plan (and the draft legislation) shall, accordingly, ensure that the majority of financing of the Plan shall be accomplished by the federal government, using a combination of the Federal Reserve, a new public bank or system of regional and specialized public banks, public venture funds and such other vehicles or structures that the select committee deems appropriate, in order to ensure that interest and other investment returns generated from public investments made in connection with the Plan will be returned to the treasury, reduce taxpayer burden and allow for more investment.
Read more: https://ocasio2018.com/green-new-deal
To her credit Ocasio-Cortez is not trying to hide what she is attempting to do – she is very open about her intentions. However I do find it rather disturbing that there seems to be serious support for her ideas in the newly elected house.
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Well might you say, god bless America … he/she/it will need to if the 100% renewables get their way
climate change ‘petoletka’ coming to a state near you.
all 57 of them
That made me laugh so hard.
“provide all members of our society, across all regions and all communities, the opportunity, training and education to be a full and equal participant in the transition, including through a job guarantee program to assure a living wage job to every person who wants one;”
Notice there is no mention of skills or education etc in her manifesto. 🙁
Sounds like a slow death for everyone to me.
Cheers
Roger
http://www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com
You have to love the part about jobs for everybody that WANTS one. The problem with our socialist friends is they don’t want to work, so no jobs necessary, just get control of government and then go get other peoples money and pass it around so they can fiddle away their day marching with signs demanding more government to go get them what they want. Marching is easy and fun. filled with music and poems, and the best part is that it can be postponed for sunny days.
Bill
The way I read it, they propose making new money. It’s easy, they have been doing it for year’s.
You gotta love it. Welcome to the future comrade, bring your own bean bag, it’s gonna be great, Gore must be laughing so hard he won’t be able to use his calculator to add up how much money he is going to make.
Regards
Everyone who wants it already has access to opportunity, training and education.
The idea that everyone deserves a living wage, regardless of what efforts they put in to earn one, is death to a society.
What always happens is that over time, people realize that working hard so that others can benefit is a fool’s errand, and within a couple of generations nobody is working.
It’s a perfect plan to guarantee the refrain known from formerly (and presently) Communist/Socialist countries will come true:
“We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us.”
Ocasio-Cortez’s plan is free misery for all, and prison or murder for those who disagree.
That’s been the socialist program from day one, it was the socialist program in operation everywhere all across the 20th century, and it’s the socialist program now.
Ocasio-Cortez, Bernie Sanders, and all the others planning for that socialist future are conspiring in mass murder while posing as moral paragons. They should be called out for it.
Criminally delusional or just plain criminal. There are no other possibilities.
That the select committee deems appropriate
Scary
Of course this is not her idea. She like Obama is just a puppet. Who is organising her behind the curtains ? Who is Big Brother ? Who has unlimited funding?
Since windmills and solar can barely replace themselves, it will not be slow. The new Eddy Grand Solar Minimum will usher in a major cooling event over the next 30-50 years and half the population will be dead in 10 from famine. See massive crop losses in Alberta Canada from early snow. Also millions of acres of wheat and grapes wiped out in SW Australia due to late frost. It is already -40 in Siberia months ahead of schedule. Also see Fukushima windmill decommishend due to only producing 3 percent of rated capacity. 15000000 million dollars down the drain. New wind farm off Virginia to produce 78 cent a kilowatt electricity. Not designed to handle a Cat 3 hurricane or 50 foot waves.
Only if idiots like her have their way decarbonizing the world. As long as fossil fuels rule shortages of food in one area provide an opportunity for wealth in another. No one need starve. The percentage of those in extreme poverty in the world i.e. always on the verge of starving to death, has dropped from 50% when I was in grade school to less than 20% today, thanks to fossil fuels.
They can’t replace themselves. The latest number I was able to find (not that it was easy to find, asking DuckDuckGo on Safari using the search term “study solar uses more energy than it produces” returned 100s of sites that just pop-pooed, “that’s nonsense” before I found one that gave a number) indicated that it take 20.5 MWhrs to produce each kW(peak) of solar cells. Simple arithmetic, turn it into 20,500 kWhrs, divide by 0.11 for actual capacity factor, then divide by 8,760 hrs/year, and you get 21.27438771274388. Allow for significant digits, that’s 21 years. Now some of the trough feeders looking for subsidies claim 20-25 year life, but the last 3 solar installations I encountered had been decommissioned before they reached the 10 year point, and had been demolished and disposed of by the time I stood on the same real estate. So what I’m getting at is, they can’t replace themselves.
Yup, she is not hiding the AGW-socialism link.
“mitigate deeply entrenched racial, regional and gender-based inequalities in income and wealth (including, without limitation, ensuring that federal and other investment will be equitably distributed to historically impoverished, low income, deindustrialized or other marginalized communities);”
This is the goal all along, per Ottmar Edenhofer of the UNIPCC To institute socialist redistribution under the guise of climate change mitigation.
“That does not sound anymore like the climate policy that we know.
Basically it’s a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization. The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War. …But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/11/18/ipcc-official-climate-policy-is-redistributing-the-worlds-wealth/#ore-28045
Cue the likes of Nick/Kristi/Mosh to tell us to take off our tin foil hats.
I’d kindly ask them to remove their blinders.
They’re usually too busy talking about the science. Kristi gets into some politics, but she isn’t obsessed like you are.
This is the scariest part of her communist manifesto in my opinion. Racism and sexism are ok in the lefty world as long as it’s the right type. Ie. Whitey and men.
What is it with batshit crazy women in politics? Warren, waters, pelosi, clinton, this nutjob…maybe they go crazy when they catch leftism 🤔
Her manifesto relies on the Marxist view of value: “Every worker adds value to the process and therefore every worker is valuable.”
Surely this cannot be so. Given the same list of ingredients an unskilled worker will ruin the soup, while a marginally skilled cook will make a good soup, and a skilled chef will make an excellent soup.
The value added must be relative to the skill employed.
One should strive for equal opportunity, but it is utterly stupid to believe that providing every worker with equal opportunity will result in equal outcomes.
It’s the difference between “Anyone can be a chef.” and “A chef can come from anywhere.”
Have we learned nothing from the past? Haven’t we heard similar utopian promises many times before?
Lenin in a rare speech in Moscow in 1917 prior to the Communist Revolution promised the Russian people 3 things: Land, Bread, and Peace. He appealed to the rural Peasant class by promising them free Land seized from the Czarist Aristocracy; to the unemployed urban working class by promising them bread to feed their their families; and to the returning soldiers of the Russian Army who had mutinied and left the battle field after losing to the German Army by promising them a Peace Treaty to end Russian involvement in WWI. With the exception of the peace treaty, each of Lenin’s promises was so much vapor ware with consequent outcomes that were their polar opposites. Revolution to over throw the Czar turned into a murderous Civil War and Terror, a war of the Bolshevik Red Army against remnants of Czarist White Army and every other segment of Russian society who resisted Marxist-Leninism including the Menesheviks who wanted a Democratic form of Communism; Civil War led to the Mass Slaughter and forced deportation of the Kulak farming communities who resisted collectivization of land and forced requisition of agricultural produce, seized to feed the Urban working class leaving them to starve in place or in exile, and collectization of farms led to widespread society hunger and starvation because there were few people left with the know how to produce the food on the farm collectives. Lenin died of Kidney Failure and strokes in 1924 but lived long enough to be the one primarily responsible for the theory of Communist Party as a Revolutioary Vanguard, the use of Mass Terror and Mass Action (Extermination of Political Dissent), as well as the social catastrophe and inhumane horror that followed the Communist Revolution of Nov 1918. Stalin justified his criminal acts and paranoid cruelty by appealing to Lenin’s papers, orders, and public statements to perfect Socialism in a One Country. See: Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler. The Age of Social Catastrophe. By Robert Gellately. 2007.
key words: (job) for everyone who WANTS one.
Seems to me deep in inner city and other welfare subsidized areas, across 5 generations of this subsidy, that people simply do not WANT a job, nor will they take it even if forced. Thousands will be raising their kids- and need to be fully supported by government. Many will say they can’t work due to some disability or mental health problem. Others will simply reveal they ‘can’t learn’, and need to be fed and housed until they can learn- with extra financial support for years of ‘training’…read: a place to hang out with pals during cold weather.
In the book Wheels-about Detroit auto manufacture a main character buys a basic alarm clock for several of the new untrained workers so they can learn to wake up, get up, and get their butt to the factory job. I imagine the green jobs system will be the same. She does not mention ‘green food’–after all one must be well nourished- no more Micky D’s for you- no high fructose & high carb ‘shakes’ -no deep fried potatoes in overheated hydrogenated oils…bring on the quinoa and kale cold breakfast…yum.
Scary Movie.
2Jan2015”At a news conference [22Jan2015] in Brussels, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework be adopted Convention on Climate Change, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism. “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 ye2ars, since the Industrial Revolution,” she said . Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will at the Paris climate change conference later this year, she added: “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”
Investor’s Business Daily: http://news.investors DOTcom/ibd-editorials/021015-738779-climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism.htm#ixzz3RXh5Tujn
Does this quote now make sense?
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/10/06/claim-judge-kavanaughs-adherence-to-rule-of-law-will-impede-climate-action/#comment-2482376
Here is how modern politics works:
The far-left is winning, especially in the developing world, where over 100 countries are pseudo-Marxist dictatorships, based on their leftist phony rhetoric, but are actually just military dictatorships, run for the ruling elite and their armed thugs – see Zimbabwe and Venezuela… and North Korea, Cuba, the Soviet Union countries and many more..
The left gains political power by promising imbeciles lots of free stuff. Then they destroy the economy, create widespread poverty and live like kings atop a ruined state – because you can’t be kings without lots of peasants.
It is really no different in the developed world. Get elected by lazy greedy imbeciles, destroy the economy with fake green energy and other crazy policies, and live like kings on top of a ruined economy, looking down on all the peasants.
This has already been achieved in San Francisco where tech millionaires live in high rises looking down on homeless bums urinating in the street.
If you take away carbon based fuels you take away the ability to produce the things necessary for life. It would be mass murder on a scale unequaled by all the wars and slaughters of the last thousand years combined.
When the NY Times published the Unibomber manifesto it called for complete de-industrialization of the world. Some supposed intellectuals thought that his ideas should be taken seriously. They were the same kind of people who take Ocasio-Cortez seriously, only now these idiots are in congress.
Perhaps someone could forward this rant to Ms. Ocasio-Cortez – the latest Marxist fraudster – another (probable) sociopath who wants to control everyone else’s life :
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/10/20/socialist-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-tactics-to-defeat-nazi-germany-can-defeat-global-warming/#comment-2497660
I had a large energy project in the Former Soviet Union, and have also travelled into Honecker’s East Germany and Fidel Castro’s Cuba. I have never seen such horrific pollution and gross waste of resources as I saw in the SU and the FSU. This is what happens when you allow sociopathic thugs to run a country.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/01/09/hewlett-packard-report-includes-planned-penal-colonies-for-climate-skeptics/comment-page-1/#comment-2713070 old
In July of 1989 I entered East Berlin and East Germany through Checkpoint Charlie. The dreaded communist Honecker regime was still in power then; it was just four months before the Wall fell.
I wrote the following long ago and I didn’t keep track of dates then – probably about 2010.
THIS FEARFUL, REPRESSIVE SCENARIO IS WHAT THE LEFTISTS WANT FOR AMERICA.
____________________________
I had the privilege and misfortune of travelling into East Germany in July of 1989, just before the fall of the Berlin Wall.
We were on a business mission to West Germany, and somehow our bosses had committed us at the last minute to a brief detour into the East.
One of our group refused to go, saying it was a despicable totalitarian sh!thole, so we agreed to meet him in Cologne.
We flew to Tegel airport in West Berlin, and were escorted by a Stasi driver though West Berlin. It was Friday night, and West Berlin looked exciting, electric.
We travelled though the Berlin Wall at Checkpoint Charlie, and the world changed. I had been sitting in the front seat beside the driver snapping photos, but when I tried to take one of the East German checkpoint, I felt resistance as I tried to lift my camera. The Stasi driver’s hand was on my camera holding it down, even as he looked the other way, talking through his window to the East German border guard.
We took a sharp left and then a sharp right onto the main street, called Unter den Linden. The majestic Brandenburg Gate was visible just behind us. As we passed the Reichstag, I lifted my camera to snap a picture. The driver stopped quickly to assist my photo, and it was suddenly obvious that there were no other vehicles on the street, and no pedestrians either.
We stayed at the Metropol Hotel that first night, and went for a walk after dinner. I had asked my dinner hosts if I could go for a jog in the morning, and was cautioned that “We do not jog in East Berlin” I then asked if I could go for a long walk, and was assured, with a telling look, “You can walk anywhere in East Berlin – you will be perfectly safe, not like your London and New York”.
We soon found out what he meant – every block had eight small kiosks staffed with police, two on each side of the street. At any time we were within easy view of perhaps ten such police posts. Again, we were the only people on the street. The police talked quietly with each other on their telephones, and seemed to know that we were no cause for alarm. Their primary job to prevent any attempts by East Germans to defect to the Western embassies located on Unter den Linden.
In our brief stay, we visited a mine to view some equipment, had interminable meetings in a very hot room, learned that the local cola beverage was called Prik Cola, and found that our business colleagues in East Germany were pretty human, much like ourselves.
I also had sufficient liberty to get away from our group, and was able to observe that East German infrastructure was crumbling, the roads, buildings, sewage systems, cars, trains, heavy equipment, electrics, electronics, etc. etc. etc. were fifty years out-of-date and falling apart. Environmental degradation by industry was severe and disgusting.
More significantly, the East German people were a fearful lot – frightened to death of me, lest someone think they were communicating with me and report them to the dreaded Stasi. Those condemned to the Stasi, and there were many, would lose their jobs and could wind up in prison – their lives would be ruined.
My friend was right – East Germany was a vicious totalitarian state, and worse. We all decided that we had seen enough, and agreed to leave a day early.
We took a taxi to the Wall, and negotiated our way through Checkpoint Charlie again, this time without the assistance of our Stasi driver, and spent the extra day walking around West Berlin.
We saw a memorial to those who had been killed trying to escape through the Wall. The last death took place a few months earlier in February 1989, when Chris Gueffroy died trying to escape into West Berlin. Gueffroy was hit in the chest by ten shots and died in the border strip. He was 20 years old.
Several months later the Wall fell, and I stayed up all night watching the celebrations on CNN.
Now that was a good day!
Epilogue:
I recall our Canadian NDP leaders extolling the virtues of East Germany to the Canadian public, and their stories being dutifully reported by the Canadian press – how East Germany was the “Economic Engine of the Soviet Union”, “The Workers’ Paradise”, and all that other BS. I shall never forgive the Canadian left for these self-serving lies, and I will never believe a word they say.
A few years later, I was back in Berlin on another business trip. Although I no longer jogged, I walked to the Brandenburg Gate. Then, I broke into a slow jog, and ambled my way through the Brandenburg Gate and down Unter den Linden.
You see, now, we do jog in East Berlin.
Seems that her wishes are that we all shall live in interesting times.
And both benighted and enlightened times, courtesy of the whims of occasional energy.
Without the support that is provided by fossil, nuclear, etc. energy availability will be not even occasional and money that has real value will be a faint memory.
On another forum, Ms. Alexandria has been called ‘occasional cortex.’ Seems appropriate given the intellectual depth of her public statements.
So, we’ll have occasional energy courtesy of Ms. Occasional-cortex.
This comes to mind…..
Red Rider – Lunatic Fringe
https://youtu.be/sTFVMMCwsss
They are not hiding though.
Really? Why do ‘Antifa’ thugs where masks?
“Plan”? That bozo has a “plan”?
Yes. A 5 years plan. Comrade.
ps: Half of my life was under a commie rule. I know when I see one. POTUS Trump is our last hope.
[So what you’re telling us is that you’re one of the ones spreading all that fake news and colluding with Trump? /sarc 🙂 -mod]
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36202/erickson-serious-does-not-mean-credible-erick-erickson
Progressives are Marxists, although many are too stupid to understand that. They just think they are cool.
Their leaders do understand the game – “Any lie is OK, if it serves the Cause.”
Classic Marxism with a postmodernist flavor.
Walt D
Yeah, and they forgot the plank in the old Social Credit Party platform in Alberta that said, “Municipalities should be able to have money for the cost of printing it.” If they are going to devalue the humans to the point of being passive recipients of the fat of the land, they might as well devalue the currency at the same time.
Just how, exactly, do you de-value currency that has no intrinsic value to start with?
What has intrinsic value? All valuation is comparative.
The US dollar is backed by the economy using it, by virtue of sellers accepting it. Increasing the supply of dollars relative to the economy devalues them.
Yet another example that Green is the new Red.
Watermelons.
Green on the outside, red to the core.
… all coming from a
DING DING DING
bat,
who makes Sarah Palin
look like a genius,
in comparison.
peterh wrote:
“The US dollar is backed by the economy using it, by virtue of sellers accepting it. Increasing the supply of dollars relative to the economy devalues them.”
See this plot – the USA has ~quadrupled its monetary base since 2008.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/BASE/
It took 232 years to reach ~$830 billion, and then only six months to double, and a few more years to quadruple. So far, the value of the currency has apparently not declined.
I think there is massive reflation coming to account for the quadrupling of the monetary base since 2008. It really defies gravity what has been done, effectively by Obama, but by policies of the previous decade(s). Long term future growth may be tempered by this. Including paying back the debt…although the debt is really never paid back, since it too is just eroded away by inflation.
I do think a basic economic law does exist:
The Correction is equal and opposite to the Deception that preceded it.
Yes, and that plan has already been tried and it failed.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s ‘Green New Deal’ already failed in Australia and the UK. Washington Times
“The very idea itself is an import from Europe. more specifically, from my native Britain. It’s an idea that doesn’t travel well. U.S. building standards and practices are entirely different from Britain’s, yet the same demands are being made in both places. That’s not quite how it works, is it?
But much more than theory or haggling over technical details, we have excellent empirical evidence that a Green New Deal just does not work. It’s been tried, twice, on different sides of the world and it didn’t work either time.” Time Worstall
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-green-new-deal-already-failed-in-australia-and-the-uk
Another made for media, sugar and spice, wide eyed loon gets into the system.
Don’t laugh, the MSM will make her the President someday. Just watch.
Klem @ur momisugly 1:33 am
Don’t laugh, the MSM will make her the President someday. Just watch.
That the MSM will likely begin to do until they discover that they will be amongst the first in line to fall under the full weight of the command economy as the principle propaganda mechanism for the new “Peoples Democratic Union of the United American States”.
And if the odd MSM organisation fails or refuses to fall into line then “Ve haf vays and means mi frend”!
Or maybe by then under “Presidente de por vida”. Senora Ocasio-Cortez it will be called the
“Unión Democrática Popular de los Estados Unidos de América “.
I already weep for Australia!
I don’t want to weep for America and its peoples as well!
The British in the true gritty British tradition with their apparently inherent historical characteristic of taking on the most powerful local political bullies and eventually winning after much travail now have their Brexit against all odds and might therefore be the saviour of us all as they pull out of the increasingly Command Economy driven “Brussels Caliphate” trending dictatorial political entity that today goes under the guise of the “European Union.”
Sorry, but we do not have our Brexit now.
With T may as Prime Minister we never will.
The British deep state are trying their hardest to bollecks up Brexit. The UK has a ways to go before Brexit is a done deal. And considering their recent record in regards to freedom of speech and authoritarianism, I wouldn’t be looking to the UK as a savior of the free world.
‘until they discover that they will be amongst the first in line to fall under the full weight of the command economy as the principle propaganda mechanism for the new “Peoples Democratic Union of the United American States”.’
They already _are_ the propoganda arm of the Democratic Socialists, and more will be needed to bury the truth and promote the lies of the Party and State.
She and Beto can draw straws for Vice President.
But not plastic straws of course, they are symbols of patriarchal tyranny.
I thought “straw” was organic?
Isn’t that bulls eat to make …
yeah the eyes spin me out
zealotry to the max!
I would be very very concerned if she had any say in my parliament.
I thought it was just the eyes of the naive and uneducated. A kind of ‘deer in the headlights’ look.
Yes, I know she has a degree. We all know that has little to do with having been educated. Pick the right field, and there are millions of examples of “anyone can get a degree” without effort or even average intelligence.
Comrade
With that name your a prime candidate for election.
She does fill out a dress very nicely.
Shame she ruins it the second she opens her mouth and let’s the crazy out.
A glitterimg jewel of colossal ignorance.
+10
What is so striking is that if implemented, this would have no, zero, effect on net global emissions or on warming.
Because all it would do is reduce the 12% of emissions coming from the US, while doing nothing about the 88% which the rest of the world is doing. The US is doing about 5 billion tons out of 37 and falling. China is doing 10 billion and rising. India is rising rapidly also.
All she is proposing is to reduce the 5 billion from the US while leaving everyone else to carry on and raise. Even were the US eliminated totally it would make no difference to global warming. Even if the theory were correct.
So, tell us again, what is the real purpose of this? It is once again, de-industrialization of the US or the West generally, and continued industrialization and growth for the rest of the world.
Why? Not because of any effect it will have on the climate, even if the theory is right.
So why?
A serious CO2 drawdown effort might affect global CO2 levels, so the USA would be picking up the tab for everyone elses emissions…
Eric
Find yourself a copy of Peter Sellars et al on “How to win an election or a least not lose by much”
The plan of the Labour potential Minister for Transport might have been the model for this IIRC
Because the evil Western civilisation must be punished for being more successful than any other society.
also happens to be the fairest skinned…
and here we have a nations millenials feeling guilty about the greatness their ancestors built
“provide all members of our society, across all regions and all communities, the opportunity, training and education to be a full and equal participant in the transition,”
Ah, there are the “self improvement” concentration camps. Are all you College Professors ready for you new job in carbon free plowing? How did that work in Cambodia?
“take into account and be responsive to the historical and present-day experiences of low-income communities, communities of color,”
And there is the new upper class. How did that work out in Rhodesia?
BTW; Miss Cortez is WHITE. Spaniards are Caucasians.
RLu
Latter day Rhodesia was the successful and peaceful face of Colonialism. Run on that basis it was a profitable, successful country indeed, the ‘Bread Basket of Africa’. Then the self proclaimed Marxist Mugabe rocked up and destroyed the entire country.
No country or system of government is perfect. There will always be inequality and yet somehow it’s the fault of governments that ‘people of colour’ and women are ‘marginalised’. Except people of colour are wildly successful in India, China, Saudi etc. and there are many wealthy African Americans, indeed, one was President of the United States not so long ago. Did he make the plight of the coloured community any better than it was?
I daresay Obama would have waved the magic wand of equality and sprinkled the fairy dust of prosperity over the coloured community were there a demarcation between whites and coloureds, but there’s not. Obama didn’t do it because it’s not possible in the US, or in any civilised western country I can think of.
And yet, even as a well connected, powerful socialist, Obama didn’t propose the radical changes these nutters are tabling as their answer to everything that’s wrong in the US.
The fact that no system of government is perfect, including theirs, doesn’t seem to occur to them. They simply don’t recognise that governments and cultures evolve and that revolution means a worse system, imposed by violence and bloodshed, which would take hundreds of years to iron out the major wrinkles. It means the destruction of communities and businesses, the flight of money from the country and, amongst many others including Venezuela, Rhodesia/Zimbabwe stands out like a boil on a baby’s buttock.
People aren’t equal. There are great variations in intelligence, strength and determination.
As long as people aren’t equal, the results of their labor will never be equal.
The idea that all should have equal amounts of stuff means that some people must be enslaved in order to provide for the rest.
Indeed the left confuses equality of opportunity with equality of outcomes. They’re not the same thing. Ideally, everyone, regardless of where they start in life, should be afforded the opportunity to better themselves. It’s up to them what they make of the opportunities they are afforded. Not everyone will avail themselves of the opportunities they receive whereas others will make the most of those opportunities.
Thank you, John. Salute!
You have outlined one of the most important aspects of what the U.S. founders envisioned.
Countless legal “immigrants”, and folks from lowly financial and social beginnings, have exploited the opportunity here and been successful and enjoyed freedom.
The core of the problem with these “progressives” is they develop their visions based upon on the existing financial and legal conditions we now have/enjoy. They cannot imagine a society (state) and government (more state) that assigns them their apartment, determines their job, provides their education according to the needs of the state and requires duty to the state. Complain? Ha! Off to the re-education camp or worse. And then,
They cannot imagine that eventually they will not be the ones making all the decisions, directing the economy and having their own auto/dacha/three bedroom house, etc.
I borrow from that famous skit with Akroyd and Curtin – ” Alexandria? You ignorant slut!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c91XUyg9iWM
Old warrior Gums sends…
Yes she’s up front (for now).
She’s no worse than what we’ve had under the swamp & vested interest system that dominates US politics and commerce particularly where it interfaces with Gov/semi Gov.
Actually she’s a necessary evil for conservatives to survive.
Trump is not exactly on track so she may well save him from himself.
She is so idealistically insane that at least half the population will run a mile back to Trump.
If you think that she’s no worse than the mess we have now, you have never actually studied any communist country.
Everything that you complain about will be 10 times worse when government begins to control everything.
economic mobilization of this scope and scale is a historic opportunity to virtually eliminate poverty in the United States
Let’s take some really cheap stuff and replace it with some really expensive stuff and then no one will be poor.
The naivete, it burns.
Wow! More socialist-dream-world than the plans of our own left-wing lunatics at this side of the pond.
It has been said that the Carbon Tax was ‘the longest political suicide note in Australian history’.
This ‘Plan’is the quickest one.
Right. Because of people like her, I’ve decided the welfare state of Finland will not have my tax money to waste in the future. Criminal career, here I come…
This is not controversial in Europe.
In fact, it’s just Blairism. He is considered to be on the right-wing of the UK Labour Party.
Too right, and the idiots in the Socialist Conservative Party are just following what Blair did. We may, however, loose all our lights more quickly than the US thanks to the interference of the EUSSR.
M Courtney
I’d like to understand the bizarre concept of a select committee managing ‘entrepreneurism’.
It is, almost by definition, the domain of the maverick, the risk taker, the opportunist who doesn’t care much for authority, indeed, a sociopath as many successful businessmen and politicians are identified as.
Then this: “The Plan (and the draft legislation) shall, accordingly, ensure that the majority of financing of the Plan shall be accomplished by the federal government, using a combination of the Federal Reserve, a new public bank or system of regional and specialized public banks, public venture funds and such other vehicles or structures that the select committee deems appropriate,……”
And they expect the worlds banking system, as flawed as it is, established over many hundreds of years, to just roll over and hand over all its money.
And whilst their ideology explains what they want to do, they don’t touch on dealing with the US National Debt which, if paid off overnight, would have staggering implications across the globe. But then how would they even address paying that off, because they don’t seem to explain any of that. So a great part all this easy money they see floating before their eyes must go to servicing that debt. Indeed, debt is the currency of humanity, if it weren’t so profitable there would be no such thing.
And this bit’s a cracker: “……using a combination of the Federal Reserve, a new public bank or system of regional and specialized public banks, public venture funds and such other vehicles or structures that the select committee deems appropriate.
In other words, they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about so just chuck out some cosy sounding ideas.
I can’t think of a transformation this big being accomplished without bloody conflict. Even to a layman like me these people are the epitome of the most reckless and ambitious entrepreneur, in other words, dangerous sociopaths.
There, I knew I could join the dots. 🙂
Hotscot
Under this program, you will become coldscot.
Russia won’t need guns anymore, just a petrol powered wind blower to blow the candles out.
Regards
It’s very easy. You introduce ‘Freedom Coins’ to pay the slaves. Freedom Coins can only be used in State owned shops in combination with your rationing card.
Mothers and minorities get an allowance, but white males and other privileged need to work for any ‘luxury items’. The Central Committee can then assign the work force as they see fit.
The external debt is still there, and more Dollars are still printed to pay interest. But holders of Dollars can only use them to buy from Lockheed and Raytheon. Just like the Petrodollars today.
Proper entrepreneurs need must temper their ambitions with the practical limitations of reality, if only the realities of the market.
When you can get the authority of government to shield you from the consequences of your bad market decisions, in my estimation you’re not an entrepreneur. You’re a patroner and the big-S State is your patron.
That it’s not controversial is just more evidence of how broken Europe is.
+42
Once you get used to the idea that it’s OK to steal from others to provide for the things that you want, all kinds of stuff quickly becomes acceptable.
Bad thieves only know how to run. Good thieves also know how to hide. Great thieves know how to hide in plain sight. The very best thieves get the State to steal for them.
How do you do quotes like that here?
use the blockquote html tag
Quotes.
Hard to beat Ric’s guide. https://werme.bizland.com/werme/wuwt/index.html
Basically, you enter a beginning formatting “code” and a closing formatting “code”.
The greater than, less than signs bracket the formatting command, with a “/” added to the closing command.
I’ll give a example but with greater than, less than signs reversed so you can see it. (I hope!)
>blockquote/blockquote<
Switch them, and you see this. (Unless I screwed up.)
I know it feels odd to be typing stuff that is not part of your comment. But “comment box” is an entry into a computer program. The “odd stuff” won’t show if done right. If done right, you see what you want the reader to see.
Wellll, I did screw up. Check Ric’s Guide.
“… include additional measures such as basic income programs, universal health care programs AND ANY OTHERS as the select committee may deem appropriate to promote economic security, labor market flexibility and entrepreneurism”
Who is the “Select Committe” (in Europe) that makes the non-controversial decisions for you?
I presume it you ‘drawdown and capture greenhouse gases’ too much you will be back where you started in the Little Ice Age.
Draw down CO2 too much and the plants die.
Aww, that’s nice. She wants to eradicate poverty by spending an absolutely gigantic pile of cash that we don’t have on something that won’t work to fix a problem we don’t have.
I find it hard to believe she is 29. This is economic illiteracy on stilts, suitable to teenager’s concept of economics developed in mom’s basement while sucking on a bong.
The new face of the Democratic Party indeed.
Keitho, if you were my age and had kids her age you wouldn’t say ‘I find it hard to believe she is 29’. Kids of that generation didn’t start to have mature thoughts until they turned 30 or so. Hell if I know why, but that’s the way it is (although judging by the education system, that is probably the main reason). So don’t expect any better, just hope it doesn’t get worse!
That’s what happens when kids aren’t challenged. When everyone gets a trophy no one needs to put in effort to be better.
illiteracy in general. She said that the three branches of government was the president, the house, and the senate.
“Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: “If we work our butts off to make sure that we take back all three chambers of Congress — Uh, rather, all three chambers of government: the presidency, the Senate, and the House.””
While I agree her ideas are foolish and naive, I do not think she was referring to the three “branches” of the US federal government. She referred to the three “chambers”. In the context of the election, She seems to mean the three bodies of elected people: the House, the Senate and the President & VP.
SR
Diversity. Why should we have only capable representatives? That’s so unfair.
Keitho
I think this is not exemplary of a particular political party. It is exemplary of a totally urban existence, where milk comes from stores and electricity comes from a plug. If one or another political party has as members a lot of similar thinkers for whom “the world just works” and some benefit, especially urbanites, then you will see the air of unreality permeating the brains and manifested in such childish, simplistic “solutions”.
She is not illiterate, she is unread. She is unaware of the Great Failures of materialism: the philosophy that holds life is about things and objects, with people and “nature” being two of them and sometimes expendable. She is seeking material balance, and equality of outcomes because we are, after all, equal, right? If we are equal, the outcome should be equal, right?
To create equality of outcome requires an enormous overhead of coercive political control which serves the elite and the ideological (and the lazy, quite frankly). Exemplary of this thinking is the high frequency trader who owns a faster computer that pours out money by exploiting access to trading information, while contributing exactly nothing at all to society as a whole. How “clevah”.
Don’t be surprised if the dependent class rush to support her uber-Scandanavian social management proposals. To avoid imminent catastrophe and achieve imminent Nirvana is always a popular way to approach the world. Pol Pot and Ceaușescu tried really hard but Nirvana proved elusive – probably a capitalist plot.
I want an equal tan.
She is not illiterate, she is unread
I’d say she’s both, with a great bit helping of just plain stupid.
John, I think there is a saying along the lines that, uneducated is just not knowing; ignorance is just not knowing that you are uneducated.
I think a large part of the problem is that she is actually educated – by our liberal arts education system.
The day trader provides liquidity which companies need in order to adjust to a rapidly changing economy.
To proclaim that stock traders provide nothing of value indicates you are as “unread” as Ocasio-Cortez.
Tell me how a trader provides liquidity to a company. You own a share of stock in company ABC and I want to purchase it. I go to a trader and say buy me a share of ABC stock. He arranges to purchase a share and it happens to be yours. So how did ABC receive any liquidity from our deal?
The only time liquidity to a company occurs is when they issue a NEW share of stock and somebody buys it from that company.
Without traders, shares would be worth a lot less.
Who would buy shares in a company if they couldn’t get rid of those shares when they needed to.
That’s the service that traders provide.
Basically, without traders, there would be no stock market in the first place.
Damn! That’s the first time I’ve heard someone get the liquidity concept so screwed up!
Your comment about how a company is affected by liquidity – and higher stock values – completely overlooks how banks determine loan rates to that company. Maybe I only know about that because I worked for a Dow 30 company – although any company with a stock market capitalization over a few hundred million should be sharing this with their management. Companies do not make money only when they issue or buy back stocks. They make money by getting more favorable loans. That helps explain when their stock is soaring, they renegotiate loans. It is not good to try to get loans when your stock value is in the toilet.
And that is only one example.
She graduated third in her program of…economics. At Boston College. And yes, this means Boston College’s economics program is abject garbage.
The photo suggests strongly that Ocasio-Cortez is a deranged enthusiast for economic suicide in the interests of imaginary climate dangers and the text of the Plan for a Green New Deal and Draft Legislation backs the impression up.
Once again, America has found an ugly enemy to march on. It will once again save the world, whether you want it or not !
Ms Ocasio lives in leftist la-la-land. All over the world leftist ideas are losing and Climate Action seems to be their last refuge.
But this bandwagon is a train wreck
The program is as junk as the science it’s based on.
“Ms Ocasio lives in leftist la-la-land”
Yes, she does. She has a totally unrealistic/delusional view of just about everything. Typical of a radical socialist. They don’t live in the same world we live in.
Crazy, but that’s how it goes…
She is a tool for the Trumpsters’ re-election campaign. Long may she voice her 5 year plans.
Personally I’m hoping that they decide on complete honesty and openly admit that what they want is complete government control of everything.
Well de Blasio, the mayor of NYC, is honest. He said the other day,
I presume this is the wing of the Democrat party which meets in a room with soft mattress walls and furniture made of foam blocks?
With policies like that even your economy would be finished in twelve months.
Here in the U.K. we already have plenty of loonies advocating this sort of eco nonsense, the trouble is that’s the party in power. Send help.
…Venezuela here we come.
(Only this time it is going to be different).
Time to stock up on toilet paper. Will be the new currency in this economy – forget bitcoin – now we will have $hitcoin!
Socialism is always just one more murder away from working.
When there is one person left, socialism will finally be able to work.
Nah, it would still be one murder (suicide) away from working 😉
The Socialist Princess should have the two main parts of her Green Deal Manifesto be A and B, not 1 and 2, as the numbers are reserved for sub-headings. Funding? This type of nonsense will crash the economy and there will not be any funding for anything.
Man made Global Warming as the excuse for Socialism.
How many millions will they kill this time?
dunc
Billions.
Not mere millions.
Auto
If this is the pinnacle of evolution, perhaps it is the insects’ turn.
The answer to the Fermi Paradox comes into view.
In accordance with her near-universal ignorance,Ocasio apparently is also ignorant that the original New Deal was an abject failure. Throwing in a boatload of claims that installing solar panels and windmills will somehow provide everyone with jobs and health care and remove racial inequalities is nothing more than a demonstaration of just how ignorant this Hispanic fool really is. She has already demonstrated that she doesn’t even understand this country’s basic govt structure. Why in the world anyone would believe that spending untold billions to replace a system that is already paid for will somehow magically enrichen this country defies any logic. We can assume with near certainty that this pea brain has no knowledge of the obvious future energy technology of molten salt nuclear power. The rest of the world that has govt driven by logic certainly do. Why she believes that there is an advanced renewable technology that the U.S. can somehow master and export is another issue that makes her seem like nothing more than a purveyor of rather silly political propaganda. China and other nations are the only ones making money building windmills and solar panels. Even massive Obama subsides could not prevent U.S solar panel companies from going bankrupt. Those labor unions which she stupidly believes will train workers will, for the most part, guarantee that the U.S. will not be able to compete. Ocasio is the most igorant Congressman
of our age. It is up to the GOP to show this to be true and let the public know about what future low carbon energy systems will consist of.
problem is your media wil fawn over her and nOT ask her anything hard or substantive that she cant answer
she needs to be seen to be the fool she is…and msm wont go there cos of the female /minorty/rayciss memes..pick any or all of em
problem is your media wil fawn over her and nOT ask her anything hard or substantive that she cant answer
well, that will extremely limit what they can ask. As she can’t even answer the softball questions coherently. 3 chambers of congress? really?
kent – so good of you to remind us about molten salt reactors. Where can I buy one?
The latest bs from the left is their taking the butt hurt of their 2016 loss and increasing the whining by an order of magnitude.
Reality check:
Obama and the dims lost both Houses by large margins and Obama was told to ignore the outcome and double down.
The psycho-extremists taking over the democrat party are going to make their losses in 2012 look like kud stuff.
Reality is hitting France right now, and the dims are going to ignore this true Grass Roots uprising at their peril.
This from a person who can’t even name the 3 branches of US government and whose demonstrable skills are bar tending and being eye candy.
During the Biden-Palin debate, ol’ Joe said that the first article of the Constitution refers to the Presidency. I thought, “Wow, after umpteen years in the Senate, Biden doesn’t know that the first article of the Constitution describes the Congress? I guess Palin can earn brownie points on that mistake.” Unfortunately, she didn’t know the Constitution well enough to take advantage.
Knowing the Constitution isn’t a requirement for running for high office, or being in the Senate–obviously.
Jim