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Guest essay by Eric Worrall
The latest IPCC Climate change report is so depressing, greens are wondering on social media if they should just give up the struggle. But the Guardian offers a dangerous solution to the hopelessness and despair some of their readers may be experiencing.
Don’t despair: the climate fight is only over if you think it is
Rebecca Solnit
Sun 14 Oct 2018 18.10 AEDTAfter the panicky IPCC report on climate change, it’s easy for pessimism to set in – but that would be conceding defeat
In response to Monday’s release of the IPCC report on the climate crisis – which warned that “unprecedented” changes were needed if global warming increases 1.5C beyond the pre-industrial period – a standup comic I know posted this plaintive request on her Facebook: “Damn this latest report about climate change is just terrifying. People that know a lot about this stuff, is there anything to be potentially optimistic about? I think this week I feel even worse than Nov 2016 and I’m really trying to find some hope here.”
A bunch of her friends posted variations on “we’re doomed” and “it’s hopeless,” which perhaps made them feel that they were in charge of one thing in this overwhelming situation, the facts. They weren’t, of course. They were letting understandable grief at the news morph into an assumption that they know just how the future is going to turn out. They don’t.
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Taking action is the best way to live in conditions of crisis and violation, for your spirit and your conscience as well as for society. It’s entirely compatible with grief and horror; you can work to elect climate heroes while being sad. There are no guarantees – but just as Sakharov and Sharansky probably didn’t imagine that the Soviet Union would dissolve itself in the early 1990s, so we can anticipate that we don’t exactly know what will happen and how our actions will help shape the future.
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We also need to shut down production directly, with a just transition for workers in those sectors. Five countries – Belize, Ireland, New Zealand, France and Costa Rica – are already working on bans on new exploration and extraction, and the World Bank sent shockwaves around the world last December when it announced that after 2019 it would no longer finance oil and gas extraction.
Given that the clean energy comes with lots of jobs – and jobs that don’t give people black lung and don’t poison surrounding communities – there’s a lot of ancillary benefit. Fossil fuel is, even aside from the carbon it pumps into the atmosphere, literally poison, from the mercury that contaminates the air when coal is burned and the mountains of coal ash residue to the toxic emissions and water contamination of fracking and the sinister chemicals emitted by refineries to the smog from cars. “Giving up” is often how fossil fuel is talked about, as though it’s pure loss, but renouncing poison doesn’t have to be framed as sacrifice.
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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/14/climate-change-taking-action-rebecca-solnit
On one level the IPCC has overplayed their hand – their predictions of imminent doom are so ridiculous the IPCC are straining credibility with their claims, even amongst their believers. Jumping the shark with ever more ridiculous claims will eventually lead to the total downfall of the IPCC’s credibility.
But there is an inner core of fanatics – people who truly believe the world is about to end, unless they personally act to shut down fossil fuel production and consumption.
In my opinion these are the people who think it is acceptable to physically attack oil infrastructure, chase government figures out of restaurants and target political opponents in their homes. Until their belief system finally collapses, I believe this inner core of fanatics will become increasingly dangerous and violent in their pursuit of their impossible goal.
In my opinion outlets like the Guardian are fanning the flames of this dangerous fanaticism. Although the Guardian stops short of openly inciting violence, they are repeatedly promoting the message that the only relief committed greens will find from the pain and despair they are suffering is direct action.
“but just as Sakharov and Sharansky probably didn’t imagine that the Soviet Union would dissolve itself in the early 1990s”
I’m pretty sure Sakharov and Sharansky never advocated blowing up Soviet military bases.
It is helpful when statists like Solnit reference liberal heroes like those two, if only because the example of getting jailed for writing so exposes the lies of totalitarians in our midst; no one is trying to lock these freaks up for encouraging their readers to become eco-terrorists.
-K
Well, if I were the government of the UK I would demand an answer from the Guardian with the answer printed on the 1st page as to exactly what they meant? If the Guardian comes back with an answer of social disobedience or incitement to violence, I would permanently shut the Guardian down. Of course the leaders of the UK government are just as loonytoon as the leaders of the Guardian.
this is when you petition Neville Chamberlain to secure a peace treaty with parliament and king virus.
Alan Tomalty
I’m not sure it’s worth the bother. The socialist rag is heading for bankruptcy anyway. Not a day too soon either.
Scot, we could speed up the demise of the Guardian by convincing them they need to switch to off grid renewables to lead by example.
I’m with Jeff!
And with MarkW, intrcptr2, Alan, gnomish and HotScot!
That is absurd grauniad!
What needs to shut down are the useless energy parasites that fail to produce any benefit for mankind, e.g. Guardian.
What the activists and protesters should do, is cut all of the electricity carrying wires heading into grauniad and every one of their employees’ houses.
May Theresa be gone soon.
Non Nomen
She’s getting closer to a no deal Brexit which is what’s needed to escape that nest of vipers.
Nor do I get what’s wrong with a no deal Brescape. Everyone I talk to is terrified we won’t be able to make stuff to suit the EU and they won’t make stuff to suit us, but Japan, S. Korea, the US and China (to name but a few) make cars, electronics, pharmaceuticals etc. that are perfectly acceptable to the EU, and vice versa. Why is the UK any different?
The only difference I see is the EU isn’t looking to punish Japan, China, etc for daring to break away from the EU. The EU want’s the UK to feel as much pain as possible for leaving them as a lesson to any other country considering doing the same.
Quoting Eric Worrall, to wit:
Everyone knows that …… “All the world’s a stage”, …. and thus the world is also a theatre.
Therefore, individuals and media outlets, like the Guardian, are inciting fear and panic by “fanning the flames of CAGW” and screaming “FIRE” in the earth’s crowded theatre ……. and should be arrested and prosecuted for inciting riots and act of anarchy.
No mention of how fossil fuels are going to be replaced. Why are these people so dead set against the only technology that can actually not only replace fossil fuels, but produce cheaper power in the process, namely molten salt nuclear reactors? Actually I don’t think these muttonheads have a clue about future power technology.
Half of them actually believe that wind and solar can replace fossil fuels.
The other half doesn’t want fossil fuels replaced, they want the living standards of other people reduced.
“of other people”
That’s the crux of the matter.
The muttonheads will remain clueless due to their stupidity. Eventually, after many decades, the endless predictions of doom that never happens will have a debilitating effect on their movement. They will eventually drift away in their opioid daze.
The KGB in the Cold War called these front group followers and the journalists that faithfully reported on them ‘useful idiots’. They are still useful idiots, and communists are probably still pulling their strings. It worked in the anti-war and anti-nuclear marches of the 1960s – 80s. It still works now – providing huge leverage to any anti-Western ’cause’.
BoyfromTottenham
“It still works now – providing huge leverage to any anti-Western ’cause’.”
Like the anti-British Corbyn and McDonnell.
the modern name is NPC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-player_character
Check out how much plastic derived clothing they are wearing, all the electronic equipment and I bet that even the flag is plastic! Where do they think all of this comes from, wind and sawdust and stones?
When will these sort of fanatics ever realise the hyocrisy of their protest/s. Stupid question I guess, they never will. At least the ones with masks can avoid being caught out in the future for their stupidity now.
Precisely. It will not be possible to insulate wires for solar and wind farms, the laminate plastic backing for solar panels. The light weight materials for electric cars. How many more animals will be slaughtered to replace synthetic fibers made by oil. How much more land cleared for cotton and other grown fibers. Our homes are plastic. They’re painted with plastic. Our roofs, our TVs, our iPhone cases. It goes on and on.
Trabant bodies were made with cotton and phenol, what could possibly go wrong?
Vegans have to make shoes out of something.
Plastic. It’s ok if they don’t eat it.
Plastic. It’s what’s for dinner.
Susan
Do greens make good shoes?
Only if they have skin thick enough to survive the joke.
They have absolutely no idea what their lives would be like if they succeeded. They think that everything would be exactly the same and that everything they currently use and need would carry on being there.
The absurd quote about “Green Jobs” illustrates that.
The unemployment, poverty, hunger and disease that we would all suffer is beyond their comprehension.
Personally, I’m looking forward to the day when the Guardian is forced to power its printing presses, light its offices, and run its servers entirely on unreliable, intermittent, and ruinously expensive renewable electricity.
If western governments cave in to these hysteria/propaganda merchants then we all better start learning Chinese. They are treading their own steady and sensible energy path and it wont be powered by the unreliables that our throngs of starry eyed delusionals hanker for.
Without fossil fuels, most people in the developed world would just freeze and starve to death.
It IS that simple.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/08/29/un-appointed-climate-science-team-demands-the-end-of-capitalism/#comment-2442425
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Energy is my area of expertise and I have a very successful predictive track record. I have two engineering degrees and have studied this subject for many decades.
Fully 85% of global primary energy is fossil fuels, and the rest is hydro and nuclear. Green energy would be near-zero except for massive wasted subsidies and use mandates. Only a few places have enough hydro to provide their needs, and greens hate hydro. The only practical alternative is nuclear, and the greens hate nuclear too.
Without fossil fuels, most people in the developed world would just freeze and starve to death. This means you and your family.
Well said Allen ,
I have said it before and I will say it again , the green movement has never and will never think rationally about fossil fuels and energy .The modern world and our civilization is founded on cheap plentiful energy and without this energy the world would starve and as you say Allen many people would freeze to death in the winter.
This crowd were always like this. They are now simply revealing their true natures.
Whilst they had the advantage with their hands on the (various) levers of power in our societies they could mask this aspect but now they feel the icy grip of fear as their hands are incrementally being prised off through a democratic process they never believed in in the first place.
To paraphrase, they feel we are now going low…..so….?
All interesting times…
NPC is as NPC does.
We are looking at this wrong.
We should aggressively reach out to all media outlets and reinforcing the sadness and desperation of the true believers with the push being that only through their self elimination can the world be saved.
We might get a few to jump from high buildings; others to use their carbon producing engines with a hose between the exhaust pipe and the automobile interior; others could be convinced the evil coal ash was a life extending consumable that would reduce carbon pollution if they only add enough to their diets; and still more could be convinced of the necessity of non-reproduction so as to end their particular genetic traits that make them so ignorant and gullible.
Jumping the shark barely begins to describe the IPCC’s idiotic scaremongering.
And providing no one is hurt and the demonstrations and direct action are confined to mere vandalism, frankly, it would do their miserable cause more harm than good. And if it were more than that, pretty soon any public support would evaporate. The environmental and green fanatics would marginalise and expose themselves as the fanatical fruit cakes they really are.
A bit like the CND camps at Faslane in Scotland where the individuals are usually grotty, bedraggled hippies with little support from anyone. It still exists but no one bothers with the crackpots. Their beef is, of course, that Faslane would be the target for a nuclear strike. My question is why would any country waste a nuclear missile on a base that would be empty (if there were any threat of a nuclear strike all the submarines would be at sea) and a cheaper conventional strike would be just as effective.
In the 70’s and 80’s the Faslane CND camp was a big deal, now everyone’s bored with it. Same with the IPCC.
Same with Greenham Common missile base and the “Women’s Peace Camp” that I had to drive through sometimes. The protesters didn’t look much like women to me and my vehicle (Me) being spat at even though I was just driving past the base.
Jeeps! Pass the smelling salts Mary.
I know, as opposed to ‘believe’, these folks don’t ‘do’ critical thinking but, are we not near or nearly over the “” … 1.5C beyond the pre-industrial period …”” in the data-sets?
Thankfully the majority of the choir she is preaching to are all mouth and trousers.
eu does not have nogo zones filled with clueless millenials.
and none of them cares a whit about global warming.
and they don’t need to know anything- creating wealth is not their career plan.
destruction makes them multiorgasmic and it requires no education.
These people must be mentally ill or subnormal to believe and worry about such illogical and patently absurd fantasies.
yet here we are discussing it. don’t look behind you.
i reckon the boggle dodge worked pretty well.
I always have to laugh out loud when I read “clean energy comes with lots of jobs”
Okay, if it takes 10 workers to produce the “clean” energy that can be produced by 2 fossil-fuel-energy workers, how is that better? That just means “clean” energy is 5 times less efficient and much more expensive. Basic economics.
And then, of course, there are all the government tax subsidies and mandated requirements to buy inefficient “clean-green” crapola energy that raise costs for all energy consumers.
We live in a world of rent-seekers and ambulance-chasers. But Trump is on to the scam and will be able to roll back much of the damage if Repub’s hold the Congress in 2018 and build larger majorities in 2020
If not, we face a world of hurt, not just in the US but across the global economy.
Jobs are a cost not a benefit.
Authored a feminist book attacking “mansplaining”…has no problem with the male-dominated IPCC doing the mansplaining.
My personal thought is that The Europeans have figured out that one of the best ways to forestall or outright thwart the societal disruption caused by aimless youth “going thru their nearly inevitable period of idealism” is to give ’em a meaty bone to chew on publicly.
Environmentalism is a pretty meaty if not ultimately fairly dry bone.
Its nearly eternal, too…
Who wouldn’t want to idealistically guard The Ecology?
Who wouldn’t want to enjoy clean air, healthy water, pretty mountains?
It takes the idealism-of-youth and redirects the energy toward harmlessly flailing against “the establishment”, in ways that are ultimately self-negating. All those protestors, gathering. How’d they get there? Oh, some quite heroically, by bike and foot. Others though, by tram, by car, by public transportation, by bus. By fossil fuel, how ironic.
Most youngsters eventually outgrow their sweaty, loud, implacable idealism. They mostly cede their megaphones to the up-and-coming next generation. They finish university — some — or at least get employed in their later 20s in variously idealist-sounding jobs. University rising academic jobs, or teaching jobs, or marketing outreach jobs for the medical world. They have tough requirements for their employers to improve things. They become more sophisticated. Still true to the ideal.
But in the end, they lose that strident edge.
Because social stridency is such a non-starter.
Everywhere, except the Partyline Meetings.
Then come the children, then the financial worries.
Then come the bills, the prams, the PTA meetings.
The hope of those smiling monkeys, the joy in being kids.
The cycle turns.
Yet another generation of young adults.
Cogs, fitted ot the wheel of idealism.
Turning.
Ever turning.
(snap! you’re awake now!)
Just saying,
GoatGuy
Trying to manage discontent that way is like keeping a savage dog chained in your yard. Sooner or later you get bitten.
You or the neighbors’ kids.
and they have idealism drilled into them from birth
it’s called sharia.
You are way off the mark GoatGuy. The politicians who control most European countries and the European Union( vast majority of reps to the EU are socialists eastern Europe excepted) are so out of touch with reality is that they dont have a clue as to the reality of non global warming. Also they are still in denial about accepting “refugees” from Muslim countries. There are Muslim no go zones in almost every country in Europe. I am afraid Europe is lost. It started with the universal acceptance that everybody has the right to vote no matter how idiotic or criminal they are, then regressed to welfare for all, then further regressed to proportional representation, then further regressed to a European Union and then further regressed to almost unlimited immigration. The damage of proportional representation has metastasized in Sweden where they have been without a government for over a month since the election on September 9, 2018. Now admittedly the same thing can happen with 1st past the post representation, but the likelihood is a lot less and the resoultion a lot easier because you havea lot less parties with 1st past the post.
Alan Tomalty
“The damage of proportional representation has metastasized in Sweden where they have been without a government for over a month”
Ironically, they seemed to do rather well without a formal government. 🙂
Oh, what you say is also true: politicians of Europe haven’t a clue when it comes to the rot-from-within that has been imported into their homelands.¹ Actually, it might be fairer to say that they secretly DO have clues, but that they really can’t even hint openly as being so informed. They must run scared. They must coutou to the illegitimate swarming masses.
Yet that notwithstanding, I remain of the opinion that Environmental Activism is a cheap pablum² perfectly suited to keep the non-Muslim masses marching, chanting, sign-making and so on. In their youth.
Just saying,
GoatGuy
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¹ — paraphrasing your comment’s main point.
² — pablum: typically a medicine given to treat symptoms by calming the patient.
Don’t forget that the IPCC itself discounted the one degree Celsius before 1950, saying it was too small in terms of how much CO2 was present in the atmosphere. In reality the tiny point seven C was what one would expect from 1880 as the Little Ice Age ended.
So what the IPCC is now saying that we have to worry about is point five of one degree Celsius. Just a half a degree, So what is all the panic about ?
MJE
It is the difference in climate between the first and the twentyfifth floor of a skyscraper (the temperature drops about 0.6 C per 100 m altitude).
And we all know how dangerous jumping from the twentyfifth floor is.
Jumping is not injurious at all. Landing is, potentially.
Steven Fraser
Unless, of course, one has a parachute. 🙂
Or a really big air bag.
https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/stunt-air-bag.html
There is a silver lining to the black cloud these idiots inhabit. When you add in Robert Conquest’s second law and its effect on confirmation bias the group continually becomes more exclusive and more radical. They continuously feed off each other’s ideas, ignoring all facts that don’t fit their belief systems and thus draw further from any social norms daily until either reality set in or they become totally certifiable. If sudden awareness strikes, they slink away and hide, becoming hermits. If certifiable they eventually get committed to the funny farm or the jail, spend a bit of time in rehab and jump on the next left wing band wagon. Either way it’s fun to watch.
It isn’t fun watching the prices go up on everything because of carbon taxes.
No, but eventually the results of their ill-conceived policies catch up with them. Their “subjects” (i.e., those of us they believe must be reeducated and properly led) rebel and “throw the bastards out”. The pendulum swings back the other direction for a couple of generations until the lessons are forgotten.. And, thinking with your heart soon overcomes common sense and the cycle starts over again. The main problem with left-wing philosophies is they fail to account for human nature. They dream of an ideal world with ideal people, like themselves, and assume that we ignorant folk aren’t smart enough to “see the light”. We just lack the proper training and need to be shown the way through reeducation and hard work on the collective until we can properly rejoin the enlightened ones.
Good luck with that. Robert Conquest’s Law sounds like it was formulated years before the rise of the Internet and the success of Social Media corporate giants like Fakebook, Google search, the endless varieties of photo sharing apps, and narcissistic, self important, sanctimonious pictorial messaging, on Snapchat, Instagram, even the propaganda personal
targeting of Apple News, not to mention the never ending elitist political rants by the air heads on traditional MSM, all of whose Left wing corporate officers overwhelmingly support the ideas of Catastrophic CC and AGW and CO2 as a pollutant. The point is that the Leftist looney tunes are being encouraged and reinforced in their CCC beliefs while they are being monetized by the latest and coolest in technology and by the richest people on the planet the vast majority of whom agree with Tom Streyer; and it is dissent from what is considered PC that is ostracized, smeared, and belittled not the other way around. The emotional message of fear and shame of the herd is spread much faster by technology than scientific truth among people who refuse to read anything that contradicts their political beliefs, tightly bound to their personal identities.
“………..than scientific truth among people who refuse to read anything that contradicts their political beliefs, tightly bound to their personal identities.”
I find it highly amusing that whilst we sceptics are exposed to at least as much climate propaganda as the alarmists, we take the time to seek out alternative views, whilst every climate ‘believer’ I know hasn’t bothered to look beyond the media climate hype.
None of them know what WUWT is, nor who Curry, Lindtzen, Crockford, Spencer, Ball, Marohasy, Nova etc. etc. are.
Yet we’re the ‘idiots’………
Meanwhile the number of trolls who proclaim that people who read this site never read anything else is legion.
Shut off the gas and electric to the Guardian, then anyone else who protests in public or writes to this effect. Make absolutely certain we do not accidentally cause them to violate their beliefs.
+100. ✔️
Direct action against the scammers:
Force them off grid.
Stop them flying.
Cut them from all resources furled or made from petroleum.
Only permit wind and other crap power.
Link their meters to the wind power index:
When the wind blows they get the proportion of power their windmills produce.
At non-subeidized rates.
Tax the “climate concerned” for Their carbon use.
Call out Gleick, Gore, Hansen, Grantham, Steyer, etc in public first their bs and crazy bliviating.
The Grauniad knows that Donald Trump will only be US President for another 2 or 6 years. He won’t be President forever. After he leaves office they will have lost something to whinge about.
What they love about climate, hotter or colder, wetter or drier, is that it will never go away, thus providing them with an infinite source of copy and clickbait. It would be funnier if they weren’t also always looking for someone to blame.
“What they love about climate, hotter or colder, wetter or drier, is that it will never go away, thus providing them with an infinite source of copy and clickbait.”
Absolutely. You’ve nailed it completely. Plus in banging on about this stuff, they display their credentials as being part of a smug, morally superior “aware” class of people (which is what Guardianistas and their ilk crave to be seen as).
watermelonsonacid
In a word, socialists.
The other thing to throw into this mix is that there is doubt whether oil is actually a fossil fuel. try https://principia-scientific.org/russians-nasa-discredit-fossil-fuel-theory-demise-of-junk-co2-science/
All the crude oil in the earth was created from the bodies of bacteria. We will never run out of crude oil.
Pretending for the sake of discussion that the earth is still generating crude oil, how can you say the earth will never run out of crude? If I drain a water reservoir faster than it refills I can certainly run out of water. Same principle.
And I am not taking a stand either for or against that idea because I haven’t fully researched the issue. A cursory glance has provided some evidence that oil is still being generated and some evidence that it is not. I tend to believe the earth is not still generating oil, but I am willing to listen to verifiable proof that I am wrong.
The abiotic and biotic theories on oil generation are not mutually exclusive.
The total amount of oil left in Earth’s crust is unknown.
The rate of replacement is also unknown.
If there is anything to the abiotic theory, then the amount of oil under the basement rocks must be immense.
If there is anything to the biotic theory, then oil has been forming for 100s of millions of years, still is, and the oil above the basement rocks must still be immense.
The only things we do know is:
a) you go exploring for oil, you’ll eventually find it.
b) everyone who has predicted running out of oil has been wrong.
c) when the price goes up, people find substitutes.
Organic material is still being buried under layers of mud, so presumably new oil is being generated. The problem is that the rate of production is small compared to the rate it’s being extracted.
Pretending for the sake of discussion that the earth is still generating crude oil,
All the processes that were in place to create the crude oil we currently have still exist and haven’t gone away, so yes the earth is still generating crude oil. the question isn’t if it’s still happening, the question is how fast it happens. All available evidence points to it being a rather slow process, much slower than the rate at which we currently use the stuff. That said, there’s a lot of the stuff still in the ground such that we have many, many years left before the supply “runs out”.
The solar system (Titan …) and other nebulas are swimming in hydrocarbons. Sure hydrocabonates are the infrastructure of bacteria whose remains get mixed. A lucrative spinoff of Big Oil is Helium, not part of any metabolic pathway. Rumors repeatedly of reservoir refilling keep surfacing.
All that carbonaceous sediment lowered the atmosphere C content especially after the O2 revolution. It is lawfull we put some of it back. Modern green organisms again need C.
How many times have you gone in a grocery store or some other public place and seen a toddler or young kid throwing a fit and their mother doing nothing about it? Well those misbehaving undisciplined little twerps are now technically adults and a few of them are posing in the picture above.
They may technically be adults but boy they sure do throw a tantrum when things don’t go their way, just like when they were toddlers.
When either of my toddlers threw a fit in a store or somewhere in public, my treatment was to pick him up, tuck him under my arm, and carry on as if he wasn’t there. So, with this bunch, maybe if we ignore them they’ll just go away. It seems to be happening already with the MSM – I’m waiting for CNN to go broke…
“Given that the clean energy comes with lots of jobs”
This statement is clearly an assumption in support of further untruths.
Whenever people say something’s given, they are usually promoting a lie. So-called clean energy jobs would be created at the cost of other jobs in the economy, resulting in a less efficient economic system.
Like Robert Murphy said in the “Myth of Green Jobs”, we can always give them an exercise bike with a generator. They can peddle all day and produce enough energy to power a few light bulbs.
Unfortunately, the Marxist economy that these people espouse has a great deal of difficulty producing toilet paper.
“Give me you unwiped masses!”
Bring back the treadmill!
The untold dirty truth about those ‘lots of jobs’ is that it take about 79 workers in solar to produce the same amount of electric power as one worker in coal or two workers in natural gas: http://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/EnergyWorkers.png. Even when the source energy is ‘free’ as in solar the cost per kilowatt/hour has to cover the costs of those additional workers. Some one several weeks ago posted a better of picture but I’ve lost the ref. The New Your Times has a good article on the employment by industry but they convenient leave out the amount of power generated to make it look good: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/25/climate/todays-energy-jobs-are-in-solar-not-coal.html.
You’re right Joe, but I would like to point out that oil and coal are just as ‘free’ as sunlight and wind. The cost is always in paying people to harvest the raw materials and to convert it into useable energy.
Too right Hoyt: The cost of energy lies in the cost of harvesting it. Food is a good example here; for that is merely the source of energy we require to live.
Harvesting reliable wind energy is really very expensive.
Economically speaking, jobs are a cost, not a benefit. When someone says ‘X comes with lots of jobs’ they merely mean that X is less efficient than other forms of business, and requires more labour to operate.
We could create tremendous numbers of jobs if we eliminated tractors from farms, and made people drag ploughs behind them instead.
The left used to claim to be ‘progressive’. Now they’re anti-progress.
The left have always been good at labeling things the opposite of what they truly are. When they started labeling themselves “progressive” that should have been your first clue that they are anything but. Antifa is another prime example. they call themselves “anti-fascist”, but their actions are fascist to the core
Nature is the cause of increasing CO2 levels not Man’s use of fossil fuels. Cut back the use of fossil fuels and CO2 levels will still increase at the same rate if not more. Stop the greening of a warming Earth and you will retard CO2 increase. Good luck with that. Start with the Kudzu. As if that hasn’t been tried with little or no success.
These people are simply insane. In a rational world they should be given psychiatric help.
It’s arguable that the ‘psychiatric help’ is where the trouble all started.
Cool name: Direct Action was the name of a terror group in Canada in the ’80s.
The quaintly named Weathermen and SDS come to mind (see Rob. Redfords The Company you Keep). Not far to days of rage, and Franz Fanon’s Wretched of the Earth. See the freed Prof. near the end of the movie lecturing on that very book in Chicago.
Fanon’s handbook of terrorism, in French, was used in various colonies.
The Grauniad is recruiting.
Lets hope they blow somethings up Eric.
They then be as despised as the ”Animal Rights” w@nkers before them.
Green activism seen as domestic terrorism would be the end of it.
I don’t want it to get to that point Gary. Aside from my wanting to avoid people getting hurt, there are foreign terrorist organisations eager to recruit unhappy Western environmentalists to wreak havoc against US targets, and happy to provide them with real military training to help them cause more damage.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/03/01/terrorist-plan-to-destabilise-america-using-the-climate-issue/
will recruit?
that’s so pre-immigration…lol done long ago.
when it’s ripe, the nogo zones will flood the streets in concert.
london’s mayor will fling open the gates —oh, there aren’t even gates..
destruction makes the men multiorgasmic.
it will be such a party!
Rebecca Solnit inventor of “mansplaining” and revered by feminists as a towering intellect has trouble understanding anything with more moving parts than a teaspoon….
Ah yes.
Another feature post by Eric Worrall on panic and hysteria from the Guardian. So good that someone is keeping us up to date on British tabloids.
Here in the US, we have (or had) the National Enquirer. They were famous for headlines like:
UFO SPACE ALIENS FATHERED MY CHILD
and the perennial:
ELVIS LIVES – NEW ELVIS SIGHTING AT A LAS VEGAS CASINO
Not sure how seriously people took it though.
People didn’t until they were one of the only news outlet carrying the Monica Lewinsky/Bill Clinton affair.
True. They broke the story.
A Blast From The Past.
That puts them one up on all the so called major media.
As for Lewinsky and Whitewater, better ask Evans-Pritchard of the Torygraph about that. A fore-runner to the MI6 Christopher Steel dirty dossier against Trump.
hmm.
this is the country where you need a license for a butter knife now, right?
cuz it’s placid and calm and safe and a child could walk around the town at night and be unmolested.
don’t run! we are your friends!
TonyL
We had the original version here in the UK known as the News of The World, at one point the highest-selling English-language newspaper in the world.
It was brought to it’s knees when it became the principle culprit in the celebrity phone hacking scandal, except it was worse, they hacked the voicemail of the murdered teenager Millie Dowler and British service personnel killed in action.
“Fossil fuel is, …. literally poison”
That is the talk of deranged extremists. It is sheer envirowhackoism, made to look “heroic”. The desperation is reaching a peak now in the Alarmists. Will Katowice be their Last Hurrah?
” the total downfall of the IPCC’s credibility”
it lost credibility years ago
Never had any, to those who were paying attention to their original “mission statement.” The conclusion was assumed before the investigation began.
The “Intergovernmental Propaganda on Climate Control” is what it really stands for.