The Guardian on the Latest IPCC Climate Report: Direct Action to Shut Down the Fossil Fuel Economy

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“We’re here to talk about climate change”. Antifa Protestors. By Old White Truck from USA (Patriot Prayer vs Antifa protests. Photo 3 of 14) [CC BY-SA 2.0], via Wikimedia Commons

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The latest IPCC Climate change report is so depressing, greens are wondering on social media if they should just give up the struggle. But the Guardian offers a dangerous solution to the hopelessness and despair some of their readers may be experiencing.

Don’t despair: the climate fight is only over if you think it is

Rebecca Solnit
Sun 14 Oct 2018 18.10 AEDT

After the panicky IPCC report on climate change, it’s easy for pessimism to set in – but that would be conceding defeat

In response to Monday’s release of the IPCC report on the climate crisis – which warned that “unprecedented” changes were needed if global warming increases 1.5C beyond the pre-industrial period – a standup comic I know posted this plaintive request on her Facebook: “Damn this latest report about climate change is just terrifying. People that know a lot about this stuff, is there anything to be potentially optimistic about? I think this week I feel even worse than Nov 2016 and I’m really trying to find some hope here.

A bunch of her friends posted variations on “we’re doomed” and “it’s hopeless,” which perhaps made them feel that they were in charge of one thing in this overwhelming situation, the facts. They weren’t, of course. They were letting understandable grief at the news morph into an assumption that they know just how the future is going to turn out. They don’t.

Taking action is the best way to live in conditions of crisis and violation, for your spirit and your conscience as well as for society. It’s entirely compatible with grief and horror; you can work to elect climate heroes while being sad. There are no guarantees – but just as Sakharov and Sharansky probably didn’t imagine that the Soviet Union would dissolve itself in the early 1990s, so we can anticipate that we don’t exactly know what will happen and how our actions will help shape the future.

We also need to shut down production directly, with a just transition for workers in those sectors. Five countries – Belize, Ireland, New Zealand, France and Costa Rica – are already working on bans on new exploration and extraction, and the World Bank sent shockwaves around the world last December when it announced that after 2019 it would no longer finance oil and gas extraction.

Given that the clean energy comes with lots of jobs – and jobs that don’t give people black lung and don’t poison surrounding communities – there’s a lot of ancillary benefit. Fossil fuel is, even aside from the carbon it pumps into the atmosphere, literally poison, from the mercury that contaminates the air when coal is burned and the mountains of coal ash residue to the toxic emissions and water contamination of fracking and the sinister chemicals emitted by refineries to the smog from cars. “Giving up” is often how fossil fuel is talked about, as though it’s pure loss, but renouncing poison doesn’t have to be framed as sacrifice.

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On one level the IPCC has overplayed their hand – their predictions of imminent doom are so ridiculous the IPCC are straining credibility with their claims, even amongst their believers. Jumping the shark with ever more ridiculous claims will eventually lead to the total downfall of the IPCC’s credibility.

But there is an inner core of fanatics – people who truly believe the world is about to end, unless they personally act to shut down fossil fuel production and consumption.

In my opinion these are the people who think it is acceptable to physically attack oil infrastructure, chase government figures out of restaurants and target political opponents in their homes. Until their belief system finally collapses, I believe this inner core of fanatics will become increasingly dangerous and violent in their pursuit of their impossible goal.

In my opinion outlets like the Guardian are fanning the flames of this dangerous fanaticism. Although the Guardian stops short of openly inciting violence, they are repeatedly promoting the message that the only relief committed greens will find from the pain and despair they are suffering is direct action.

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October 14, 2018 1:36 pm

“but just as Sakharov and Sharansky probably didn’t imagine that the Soviet Union would dissolve itself in the early 1990s”

I’m pretty sure Sakharov and Sharansky never advocated blowing up Soviet military bases.

Reply to  MarkW
October 14, 2018 2:02 pm

It is helpful when statists like Solnit reference liberal heroes like those two, if only because the example of getting jailed for writing so exposes the lies of totalitarians in our midst; no one is trying to lock these freaks up for encouraging their readers to become eco-terrorists.


Alan Tomalty
Reply to  intrcptr2
October 14, 2018 4:37 pm

Well, if I were the government of the UK I would demand an answer from the Guardian with the answer printed on the 1st page as to exactly what they meant? If the Guardian comes back with an answer of social disobedience or incitement to violence, I would permanently shut the Guardian down. Of course the leaders of the UK government are just as loonytoon as the leaders of the Guardian.

Reply to  Alan Tomalty
October 14, 2018 7:22 pm

this is when you petition Neville Chamberlain to secure a peace treaty with parliament and king virus.

Reply to  Alan Tomalty
October 14, 2018 10:35 pm

Alan Tomalty

I’m not sure it’s worth the bother. The socialist rag is heading for bankruptcy anyway. Not a day too soon either.

Reply to  HotScot
October 15, 2018 11:25 am

Scot, we could speed up the demise of the Guardian by convincing them they need to switch to off grid renewables to lead by example.

Reply to  HotScot
October 15, 2018 7:27 pm

I’m with Jeff!
And with MarkW, intrcptr2, Alan, gnomish and HotScot!

“We also need to shut down production directly”

That is absurd grauniad!
What needs to shut down are the useless energy parasites that fail to produce any benefit for mankind, e.g. Guardian.

What the activists and protesters should do, is cut all of the electricity carrying wires heading into grauniad and every one of their employees’ houses.

Non Nomen
Reply to  Alan Tomalty
October 14, 2018 11:05 pm

May Theresa be gone soon.

Reply to  Non Nomen
October 15, 2018 12:54 am

Non Nomen

She’s getting closer to a no deal Brexit which is what’s needed to escape that nest of vipers.

Nor do I get what’s wrong with a no deal Brescape. Everyone I talk to is terrified we won’t be able to make stuff to suit the EU and they won’t make stuff to suit us, but Japan, S. Korea, the US and China (to name but a few) make cars, electronics, pharmaceuticals etc. that are perfectly acceptable to the EU, and vice versa. Why is the UK any different?

John Endicott
Reply to  Non Nomen
October 15, 2018 11:05 am

The only difference I see is the EU isn’t looking to punish Japan, China, etc for daring to break away from the EU. The EU want’s the UK to feel as much pain as possible for leaving them as a lesson to any other country considering doing the same.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  MarkW
October 15, 2018 8:35 am

Quoting Eric Worrall, to wit:

In my opinion outlets like the Guardian are fanning the flames of this dangerous fanaticism.

Everyone knows that …… “All the world’s a stage”, …. and thus the world is also a theatre.

Therefore, individuals and media outlets, like the Guardian, are inciting fear and panic by “fanning the flames of CAGW” and screaming “FIRE” in the earth’s crowded theatre ……. and should be arrested and prosecuted for inciting riots and act of anarchy.

kent beuchert
October 14, 2018 1:45 pm

No mention of how fossil fuels are going to be replaced. Why are these people so dead set against the only technology that can actually not only replace fossil fuels, but produce cheaper power in the process, namely molten salt nuclear reactors? Actually I don’t think these muttonheads have a clue about future power technology.

Reply to  kent beuchert
October 14, 2018 2:00 pm

Half of them actually believe that wind and solar can replace fossil fuels.
The other half doesn’t want fossil fuels replaced, they want the living standards of other people reduced.

Barbara Skolaut
Reply to  MarkW
October 14, 2018 7:14 pm

“of other people”

That’s the crux of the matter.

Sam Pyeatte
Reply to  kent beuchert
October 14, 2018 3:49 pm

The muttonheads will remain clueless due to their stupidity. Eventually, after many decades, the endless predictions of doom that never happens will have a debilitating effect on their movement. They will eventually drift away in their opioid daze.

Reply to  Sam Pyeatte
October 15, 2018 12:38 am

The KGB in the Cold War called these front group followers and the journalists that faithfully reported on them ‘useful idiots’. They are still useful idiots, and communists are probably still pulling their strings. It worked in the anti-war and anti-nuclear marches of the 1960s – 80s. It still works now – providing huge leverage to any anti-Western ’cause’.

Reply to  BoyfromTottenham
October 15, 2018 12:57 am


“It still works now – providing huge leverage to any anti-Western ’cause’.”

Like the anti-British Corbyn and McDonnell.

Reply to  BoyfromTottenham
October 16, 2018 6:54 am
Reply to  kent beuchert
October 14, 2018 4:19 pm

Check out how much plastic derived clothing they are wearing, all the electronic equipment and I bet that even the flag is plastic! Where do they think all of this comes from, wind and sawdust and stones?
When will these sort of fanatics ever realise the hyocrisy of their protest/s. Stupid question I guess, they never will. At least the ones with masks can avoid being caught out in the future for their stupidity now.

Matthew Thompson
Reply to  JMarkw
October 14, 2018 4:44 pm

Precisely. It will not be possible to insulate wires for solar and wind farms, the laminate plastic backing for solar panels. The light weight materials for electric cars. How many more animals will be slaughtered to replace synthetic fibers made by oil. How much more land cleared for cotton and other grown fibers. Our homes are plastic. They’re painted with plastic. Our roofs, our TVs, our iPhone cases. It goes on and on.

Nigel Sherratt
Reply to  Matthew Thompson
October 14, 2018 11:52 pm

Trabant bodies were made with cotton and phenol, what could possibly go wrong?

Reply to  JMarkw
October 14, 2018 8:25 pm

Vegans have to make shoes out of something.

Reply to  Susan
October 14, 2018 8:50 pm

Plastic. It’s ok if they don’t eat it.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Gordon Lehman
October 15, 2018 6:52 am

Plastic. It’s what’s for dinner.

Reply to  Susan
October 15, 2018 1:00 am


Do greens make good shoes?

Only if they have skin thick enough to survive the joke.

Reply to  JMarkw
October 15, 2018 8:43 am

They have absolutely no idea what their lives would be like if they succeeded. They think that everything would be exactly the same and that everything they currently use and need would carry on being there.

The absurd quote about “Green Jobs” illustrates that.

The unemployment, poverty, hunger and disease that we would all suffer is beyond their comprehension.

Reply to  JMarkw
October 15, 2018 9:35 am

Personally, I’m looking forward to the day when the Guardian is forced to power its printing presses, light its offices, and run its servers entirely on unreliable, intermittent, and ruinously expensive renewable electricity.

Reply to  kent beuchert
October 14, 2018 7:53 pm

If western governments cave in to these hysteria/propaganda merchants then we all better start learning Chinese. They are treading their own steady and sensible energy path and it wont be powered by the unreliables that our throngs of starry eyed delusionals hanker for.

Reply to  kent beuchert
October 15, 2018 5:22 am

Without fossil fuels, most people in the developed world would just freeze and starve to death.

It IS that simple.

Energy is my area of expertise and I have a very successful predictive track record. I have two engineering degrees and have studied this subject for many decades.

Fully 85% of global primary energy is fossil fuels, and the rest is hydro and nuclear. Green energy would be near-zero except for massive wasted subsidies and use mandates. Only a few places have enough hydro to provide their needs, and greens hate hydro. The only practical alternative is nuclear, and the greens hate nuclear too.

Without fossil fuels, most people in the developed world would just freeze and starve to death. This means you and your family.

October 15, 2018 11:41 am

Well said Allen ,
I have said it before and I will say it again , the green movement has never and will never think rationally about fossil fuels and energy .The modern world and our civilization is founded on cheap plentiful energy and without this energy the world would starve and as you say Allen many people would freeze to death in the winter.

October 14, 2018 1:50 pm

This crowd were always like this. They are now simply revealing their true natures.

Whilst they had the advantage with their hands on the (various) levers of power in our societies they could mask this aspect but now they feel the icy grip of fear as their hands are incrementally being prised off through a democratic process they never believed in in the first place.

To paraphrase, they feel we are now going low…….?

All interesting times…

Reply to  Jones
October 14, 2018 8:07 pm

NPC is as NPC does.

Dr James Phelps
October 14, 2018 1:52 pm

We are looking at this wrong.

We should aggressively reach out to all media outlets and reinforcing the sadness and desperation of the true believers with the push being that only through their self elimination can the world be saved.

We might get a few to jump from high buildings; others to use their carbon producing engines with a hose between the exhaust pipe and the automobile interior; others could be convinced the evil coal ash was a life extending consumable that would reduce carbon pollution if they only add enough to their diets; and still more could be convinced of the necessity of non-reproduction so as to end their particular genetic traits that make them so ignorant and gullible.

October 14, 2018 2:01 pm

Jumping the shark barely begins to describe the IPCC’s idiotic scaremongering.

And providing no one is hurt and the demonstrations and direct action are confined to mere vandalism, frankly, it would do their miserable cause more harm than good. And if it were more than that, pretty soon any public support would evaporate. The environmental and green fanatics would marginalise and expose themselves as the fanatical fruit cakes they really are.

A bit like the CND camps at Faslane in Scotland where the individuals are usually grotty, bedraggled hippies with little support from anyone. It still exists but no one bothers with the crackpots. Their beef is, of course, that Faslane would be the target for a nuclear strike. My question is why would any country waste a nuclear missile on a base that would be empty (if there were any threat of a nuclear strike all the submarines would be at sea) and a cheaper conventional strike would be just as effective.

In the 70’s and 80’s the Faslane CND camp was a big deal, now everyone’s bored with it. Same with the IPCC.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  HotScot
October 14, 2018 5:45 pm

Same with Greenham Common missile base and the “Women’s Peace Camp” that I had to drive through sometimes. The protesters didn’t look much like women to me and my vehicle (Me) being spat at even though I was just driving past the base.

Henry Galt
October 14, 2018 2:03 pm

Jeeps! Pass the smelling salts Mary.

I know, as opposed to ‘believe’, these folks don’t ‘do’ critical thinking but, are we not near or nearly over the “” … 1.5C beyond the pre-industrial period …”” in the data-sets?

Thankfully the majority of the choir she is preaching to are all mouth and trousers.

Reply to  Henry Galt
October 14, 2018 7:35 pm

eu does not have nogo zones filled with clueless millenials.
and none of them cares a whit about global warming.
and they don’t need to know anything- creating wealth is not their career plan.
destruction makes them multiorgasmic and it requires no education.

October 14, 2018 2:20 pm

These people must be mentally ill or subnormal to believe and worry about such illogical and patently absurd fantasies.

Reply to  roger
October 14, 2018 8:32 pm

yet here we are discussing it. don’t look behind you.
i reckon the boggle dodge worked pretty well.

October 14, 2018 2:24 pm

I always have to laugh out loud when I read “clean energy comes with lots of jobs”

Okay, if it takes 10 workers to produce the “clean” energy that can be produced by 2 fossil-fuel-energy workers, how is that better? That just means “clean” energy is 5 times less efficient and much more expensive. Basic economics.

And then, of course, there are all the government tax subsidies and mandated requirements to buy inefficient “clean-green” crapola energy that raise costs for all energy consumers.

We live in a world of rent-seekers and ambulance-chasers. But Trump is on to the scam and will be able to roll back much of the damage if Repub’s hold the Congress in 2018 and build larger majorities in 2020

If not, we face a world of hurt, not just in the US but across the global economy.

Reply to  GeologyJim
October 15, 2018 10:21 am

Jobs are a cost not a benefit.

Michael Jankowski
October 14, 2018 2:28 pm

Authored a feminist book attacking “mansplaining”…has no problem with the male-dominated IPCC doing the mansplaining.

October 14, 2018 2:31 pm

My personal thought is that The Europeans have figured out that one of the best ways to forestall or outright thwart the societal disruption caused by aimless youth “going thru their nearly inevitable period of idealism” is to give ’em a meaty bone to chew on publicly.

Environmentalism is a pretty meaty if not ultimately fairly dry bone.
Its nearly eternal, too…
Who wouldn’t want to idealistically guard The Ecology?
Who wouldn’t want to enjoy clean air, healthy water, pretty mountains?

It takes the idealism-of-youth and redirects the energy toward harmlessly flailing against “the establishment”, in ways that are ultimately self-negating. All those protestors, gathering. How’d they get there? Oh, some quite heroically, by bike and foot. Others though, by tram, by car, by public transportation, by bus. By fossil fuel, how ironic.

Most youngsters eventually outgrow their sweaty, loud, implacable idealism. They mostly cede their megaphones to the up-and-coming next generation. They finish university — some — or at least get employed in their later 20s in variously idealist-sounding jobs. University rising academic jobs, or teaching jobs, or marketing outreach jobs for the medical world. They have tough requirements for their employers to improve things. They become more sophisticated. Still true to the ideal.

But in the end, they lose that strident edge.
Because social stridency is such a non-starter.
Everywhere, except the Partyline Meetings.

Then come the children, then the financial worries.
Then come the bills, the prams, the PTA meetings.
The hope of those smiling monkeys, the joy in being kids.

The cycle turns.
Yet another generation of young adults.
Cogs, fitted ot the wheel of idealism.
Ever turning.

(snap! you’re awake now!)
Just saying,

Reply to  Eric Worrall
October 14, 2018 5:38 pm

You or the neighbors’ kids.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
October 14, 2018 8:11 pm

and they have idealism drilled into them from birth
it’s called sharia.

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  GoatGuy
October 14, 2018 4:59 pm

You are way off the mark GoatGuy. The politicians who control most European countries and the European Union( vast majority of reps to the EU are socialists eastern Europe excepted) are so out of touch with reality is that they dont have a clue as to the reality of non global warming. Also they are still in denial about accepting “refugees” from Muslim countries. There are Muslim no go zones in almost every country in Europe. I am afraid Europe is lost. It started with the universal acceptance that everybody has the right to vote no matter how idiotic or criminal they are, then regressed to welfare for all, then further regressed to proportional representation, then further regressed to a European Union and then further regressed to almost unlimited immigration. The damage of proportional representation has metastasized in Sweden where they have been without a government for over a month since the election on September 9, 2018. Now admittedly the same thing can happen with 1st past the post representation, but the likelihood is a lot less and the resoultion a lot easier because you havea lot less parties with 1st past the post.

Reply to  Alan Tomalty
October 15, 2018 1:05 am

Alan Tomalty

“The damage of proportional representation has metastasized in Sweden where they have been without a government for over a month”

Ironically, they seemed to do rather well without a formal government. 🙂

Reply to  Alan Tomalty
October 15, 2018 9:56 am

Oh, what you say is also true: politicians of Europe haven’t a clue when it comes to the rot-from-within that has been imported into their homelands.¹ Actually, it might be fairer to say that they secretly DO have clues, but that they really can’t even hint openly as being so informed. They must run scared. They must coutou to the illegitimate swarming masses.

Yet that notwithstanding, I remain of the opinion that Environmental Activism is a cheap pablum² perfectly suited to keep the non-Muslim masses marching, chanting, sign-making and so on. In their youth.

Just saying,
¹ — paraphrasing your comment’s main point.
² — pablum: typically a medicine given to treat symptoms by calming the patient.

October 14, 2018 2:32 pm

Don’t forget that the IPCC itself discounted the one degree Celsius before 1950, saying it was too small in terms of how much CO2 was present in the atmosphere. In reality the tiny point seven C was what one would expect from 1880 as the Little Ice Age ended.
So what the IPCC is now saying that we have to worry about is point five of one degree Celsius. Just a half a degree, So what is all the panic about ?


Reply to  Michael
October 14, 2018 3:06 pm

It is the difference in climate between the first and the twentyfifth floor of a skyscraper (the temperature drops about 0.6 C per 100 m altitude).

And we all know how dangerous jumping from the twentyfifth floor is.

Steven Fraser
Reply to  tty
October 14, 2018 6:39 pm

Jumping is not injurious at all. Landing is, potentially.

Reply to  Steven Fraser
October 15, 2018 1:07 am

Steven Fraser

Unless, of course, one has a parachute. 🙂

Reply to  HotScot
October 15, 2018 9:34 am
Joe Crawford
October 14, 2018 2:46 pm

There is a silver lining to the black cloud these idiots inhabit. When you add in Robert Conquest’s second law and its effect on confirmation bias the group continually becomes more exclusive and more radical. They continuously feed off each other’s ideas, ignoring all facts that don’t fit their belief systems and thus draw further from any social norms daily until either reality set in or they become totally certifiable. If sudden awareness strikes, they slink away and hide, becoming hermits. If certifiable they eventually get committed to the funny farm or the jail, spend a bit of time in rehab and jump on the next left wing band wagon. Either way it’s fun to watch.

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  Joe Crawford
October 14, 2018 5:06 pm

It isn’t fun watching the prices go up on everything because of carbon taxes.

Joe Crawford
Reply to  Alan Tomalty
October 15, 2018 7:57 am

No, but eventually the results of their ill-conceived policies catch up with them. Their “subjects” (i.e., those of us they believe must be reeducated and properly led) rebel and “throw the bastards out”. The pendulum swings back the other direction for a couple of generations until the lessons are forgotten.. And, thinking with your heart soon overcomes common sense and the cycle starts over again. The main problem with left-wing philosophies is they fail to account for human nature. They dream of an ideal world with ideal people, like themselves, and assume that we ignorant folk aren’t smart enough to “see the light”. We just lack the proper training and need to be shown the way through reeducation and hard work on the collective until we can properly rejoin the enlightened ones.

Gerard O’Dowd
Reply to  Joe Crawford
October 14, 2018 7:58 pm

Good luck with that. Robert Conquest’s Law sounds like it was formulated years before the rise of the Internet and the success of Social Media corporate giants like Fakebook, Google search, the endless varieties of photo sharing apps, and narcissistic, self important, sanctimonious pictorial messaging, on Snapchat, Instagram, even the propaganda personal
targeting of Apple News, not to mention the never ending elitist political rants by the air heads on traditional MSM, all of whose Left wing corporate officers overwhelmingly support the ideas of Catastrophic CC and AGW and CO2 as a pollutant. The point is that the Leftist looney tunes are being encouraged and reinforced in their CCC beliefs while they are being monetized by the latest and coolest in technology and by the richest people on the planet the vast majority of whom agree with Tom Streyer; and it is dissent from what is considered PC that is ostracized, smeared, and belittled not the other way around. The emotional message of fear and shame of the herd is spread much faster by technology than scientific truth among people who refuse to read anything that contradicts their political beliefs, tightly bound to their personal identities.

Reply to  Gerard O’Dowd
October 15, 2018 1:16 am

“………..than scientific truth among people who refuse to read anything that contradicts their political beliefs, tightly bound to their personal identities.”

I find it highly amusing that whilst we sceptics are exposed to at least as much climate propaganda as the alarmists, we take the time to seek out alternative views, whilst every climate ‘believer’ I know hasn’t bothered to look beyond the media climate hype.

None of them know what WUWT is, nor who Curry, Lindtzen, Crockford, Spencer, Ball, Marohasy, Nova etc. etc. are.

Yet we’re the ‘idiots’………

Reply to  HotScot
October 15, 2018 9:38 am

Meanwhile the number of trolls who proclaim that people who read this site never read anything else is legion.

October 14, 2018 2:47 pm

Shut off the gas and electric to the Guardian, then anyone else who protests in public or writes to this effect. Make absolutely certain we do not accidentally cause them to violate their beliefs.

Reply to  Sheri
October 15, 2018 4:24 am

+100. ✔️
Direct action against the scammers:
Force them off grid.
Stop them flying.
Cut them from all resources furled or made from petroleum.
Only permit wind and other crap power.
Link their meters to the wind power index:
When the wind blows they get the proportion of power their windmills produce.
At non-subeidized rates.
Tax the “climate concerned” for Their carbon use.
Call out Gleick, Gore, Hansen, Grantham, Steyer, etc in public first their bs and crazy bliviating.

michael hart
October 14, 2018 2:50 pm

The Grauniad knows that Donald Trump will only be US President for another 2 or 6 years. He won’t be President forever. After he leaves office they will have lost something to whinge about.

What they love about climate, hotter or colder, wetter or drier, is that it will never go away, thus providing them with an infinite source of copy and clickbait. It would be funnier if they weren’t also always looking for someone to blame.

Reply to  michael hart
October 14, 2018 8:38 pm

“What they love about climate, hotter or colder, wetter or drier, is that it will never go away, thus providing them with an infinite source of copy and clickbait.”

Absolutely. You’ve nailed it completely. Plus in banging on about this stuff, they display their credentials as being part of a smug, morally superior “aware” class of people (which is what Guardianistas and their ilk crave to be seen as).

Reply to  watermelonsonacid
October 15, 2018 1:02 am


In a word, socialists.

Chris Quartermaine
October 14, 2018 2:56 pm

The other thing to throw into this mix is that there is doubt whether oil is actually a fossil fuel. try

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  Chris Quartermaine
October 14, 2018 5:19 pm

All the crude oil in the earth was created from the bodies of bacteria. We will never run out of crude oil.

Reply to  Alan Tomalty
October 14, 2018 5:54 pm

Pretending for the sake of discussion that the earth is still generating crude oil, how can you say the earth will never run out of crude? If I drain a water reservoir faster than it refills I can certainly run out of water. Same principle.

And I am not taking a stand either for or against that idea because I haven’t fully researched the issue. A cursory glance has provided some evidence that oil is still being generated and some evidence that it is not. I tend to believe the earth is not still generating oil, but I am willing to listen to verifiable proof that I am wrong.

Reply to  Wade
October 14, 2018 10:33 pm

The abiotic and biotic theories on oil generation are not mutually exclusive.
The total amount of oil left in Earth’s crust is unknown.
The rate of replacement is also unknown.
If there is anything to the abiotic theory, then the amount of oil under the basement rocks must be immense.
If there is anything to the biotic theory, then oil has been forming for 100s of millions of years, still is, and the oil above the basement rocks must still be immense.
The only things we do know is:
a) you go exploring for oil, you’ll eventually find it.
b) everyone who has predicted running out of oil has been wrong.
c) when the price goes up, people find substitutes.

Reply to  Wade
October 15, 2018 9:41 am

Organic material is still being buried under layers of mud, so presumably new oil is being generated. The problem is that the rate of production is small compared to the rate it’s being extracted.

John Endicott
Reply to  Wade
October 15, 2018 11:22 am

Pretending for the sake of discussion that the earth is still generating crude oil,

All the processes that were in place to create the crude oil we currently have still exist and haven’t gone away, so yes the earth is still generating crude oil. the question isn’t if it’s still happening, the question is how fast it happens. All available evidence points to it being a rather slow process, much slower than the rate at which we currently use the stuff. That said, there’s a lot of the stuff still in the ground such that we have many, many years left before the supply “runs out”.

Reply to  Chris Quartermaine
October 15, 2018 6:11 am

The solar system (Titan …) and other nebulas are swimming in hydrocarbons. Sure hydrocabonates are the infrastructure of bacteria whose remains get mixed. A lucrative spinoff of Big Oil is Helium, not part of any metabolic pathway. Rumors repeatedly of reservoir refilling keep surfacing.
All that carbonaceous sediment lowered the atmosphere C content especially after the O2 revolution. It is lawfull we put some of it back. Modern green organisms again need C.

October 14, 2018 2:59 pm

How many times have you gone in a grocery store or some other public place and seen a toddler or young kid throwing a fit and their mother doing nothing about it? Well those misbehaving undisciplined little twerps are now technically adults and a few of them are posing in the picture above.

John Endicott
Reply to  RAH
October 15, 2018 11:24 am

They may technically be adults but boy they sure do throw a tantrum when things don’t go their way, just like when they were toddlers.

Russ Wood
Reply to  RAH
October 19, 2018 9:10 am

When either of my toddlers threw a fit in a store or somewhere in public, my treatment was to pick him up, tuck him under my arm, and carry on as if he wasn’t there. So, with this bunch, maybe if we ignore them they’ll just go away. It seems to be happening already with the MSM – I’m waiting for CNN to go broke…

October 14, 2018 3:01 pm

“Given that the clean energy comes with lots of jobs”

This statement is clearly an assumption in support of further untruths.

Whenever people say something’s given, they are usually promoting a lie. So-called clean energy jobs would be created at the cost of other jobs in the economy, resulting in a less efficient economic system.

Walt D.
Reply to  Bob
October 14, 2018 3:45 pm

Like Robert Murphy said in the “Myth of Green Jobs”, we can always give them an exercise bike with a generator. They can peddle all day and produce enough energy to power a few light bulbs.

Unfortunately, the Marxist economy that these people espouse has a great deal of difficulty producing toilet paper.
“Give me you unwiped masses!”

Reply to  Walt D.
October 14, 2018 8:31 pm

Bring back the treadmill!

Joe Crawford
Reply to  Bob
October 14, 2018 3:46 pm

The untold dirty truth about those ‘lots of jobs’ is that it take about 79 workers in solar to produce the same amount of electric power as one worker in coal or two workers in natural gas: Even when the source energy is ‘free’ as in solar the cost per kilowatt/hour has to cover the costs of those additional workers. Some one several weeks ago posted a better of picture but I’ve lost the ref. The New Your Times has a good article on the employment by industry but they convenient leave out the amount of power generated to make it look good:

Hoyt Clagwell
Reply to  Joe Crawford
October 14, 2018 4:32 pm

You’re right Joe, but I would like to point out that oil and coal are just as ‘free’ as sunlight and wind. The cost is always in paying people to harvest the raw materials and to convert it into useable energy.

Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
October 15, 2018 2:56 am

Too right Hoyt: The cost of energy lies in the cost of harvesting it. Food is a good example here; for that is merely the source of energy we require to live.
Harvesting reliable wind energy is really very expensive.

Reply to  Bob
October 14, 2018 8:18 pm

Economically speaking, jobs are a cost, not a benefit. When someone says ‘X comes with lots of jobs’ they merely mean that X is less efficient than other forms of business, and requires more labour to operate.

We could create tremendous numbers of jobs if we eliminated tractors from farms, and made people drag ploughs behind them instead.

The left used to claim to be ‘progressive’. Now they’re anti-progress.

John Endicott
Reply to  MarkG
October 15, 2018 11:29 am

The left have always been good at labeling things the opposite of what they truly are. When they started labeling themselves “progressive” that should have been your first clue that they are anything but. Antifa is another prime example. they call themselves “anti-fascist”, but their actions are fascist to the core

William Everett
October 14, 2018 3:09 pm

Nature is the cause of increasing CO2 levels not Man’s use of fossil fuels. Cut back the use of fossil fuels and CO2 levels will still increase at the same rate if not more. Stop the greening of a warming Earth and you will retard CO2 increase. Good luck with that. Start with the Kudzu. As if that hasn’t been tried with little or no success.

Peter Plail
October 14, 2018 3:11 pm

These people are simply insane. In a rational world they should be given psychiatric help.

Nigel Sherratt
Reply to  Peter Plail
October 15, 2018 12:01 am

It’s arguable that the ‘psychiatric help’ is where the trouble all started.

Sean Peake
October 14, 2018 3:23 pm

Cool name: Direct Action was the name of a terror group in Canada in the ’80s.

Reply to  Sean Peake
October 15, 2018 6:46 am

The quaintly named Weathermen and SDS come to mind (see Rob. Redfords The Company you Keep). Not far to days of rage, and Franz Fanon’s Wretched of the Earth. See the freed Prof. near the end of the movie lecturing on that very book in Chicago.
Fanon’s handbook of terrorism, in French, was used in various colonies.
The Grauniad is recruiting.

Gary Ashe
October 14, 2018 3:24 pm

Lets hope they blow somethings up Eric.

They then be as despised as the ”Animal Rights” w@nkers before them.

Green activism seen as domestic terrorism would be the end of it.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
October 14, 2018 7:30 pm

will recruit?
that’s so pre-immigration…lol done long ago.
when it’s ripe, the nogo zones will flood the streets in concert.
london’s mayor will fling open the gates —oh, there aren’t even gates..
destruction makes the men multiorgasmic.
it will be such a party!

Mike Ozanne
October 14, 2018 3:35 pm

Rebecca Solnit inventor of “mansplaining” and revered by feminists as a towering intellect has trouble understanding anything with more moving parts than a teaspoon….

October 14, 2018 3:40 pm

Ah yes.
Another feature post by Eric Worrall on panic and hysteria from the Guardian. So good that someone is keeping us up to date on British tabloids.

Here in the US, we have (or had) the National Enquirer. They were famous for headlines like:
and the perennial:

Not sure how seriously people took it though.

Walt D.
Reply to  TonyL
October 14, 2018 4:14 pm

People didn’t until they were one of the only news outlet carrying the Monica Lewinsky/Bill Clinton affair.

Reply to  Walt D.
October 14, 2018 4:43 pm

True. They broke the story.
A Blast From The Past.

Reply to  Walt D.
October 14, 2018 6:04 pm

That puts them one up on all the so called major media.

Reply to  MarkW
October 15, 2018 7:09 am

As for Lewinsky and Whitewater, better ask Evans-Pritchard of the Torygraph about that. A fore-runner to the MI6 Christopher Steel dirty dossier against Trump.

Reply to  TonyL
October 14, 2018 8:08 pm

this is the country where you need a license for a butter knife now, right?
cuz it’s placid and calm and safe and a child could walk around the town at night and be unmolested.

don’t run! we are your friends!

Reply to  TonyL
October 15, 2018 1:32 am


We had the original version here in the UK known as the News of The World, at one point the highest-selling English-language newspaper in the world.

It was brought to it’s knees when it became the principle culprit in the celebrity phone hacking scandal, except it was worse, they hacked the voicemail of the murdered teenager Millie Dowler and British service personnel killed in action.

Bruce Cobb
October 14, 2018 3:56 pm

“Fossil fuel is, …. literally poison”
That is the talk of deranged extremists. It is sheer envirowhackoism, made to look “heroic”. The desperation is reaching a peak now in the Alarmists. Will Katowice be their Last Hurrah?

October 14, 2018 3:59 pm

” the total downfall of the IPCC’s credibility”

it lost credibility years ago

AGW is not Science
Reply to  saveenergy
October 16, 2018 12:49 pm

Never had any, to those who were paying attention to their original “mission statement.” The conclusion was assumed before the investigation began.

The “Intergovernmental Propaganda on Climate Control” is what it really stands for.

October 14, 2018 4:27 pm

A garbage news organization (Guardian) , quoting from a garbage, hysterical politically motivated report (IPCC).

As the dire predictions and warnings increase, so does the credibility of the initiator.

Isn’t society supposed to evolve, not devolve.

October 14, 2018 4:43 pm

“Don’t despair: the climate fight is only over if you think it is”
The climate fight is only one battle, one front, and we’ve already won over the masses.

“the IPCC report on the climate crisis – which warned that “unprecedented” changes were needed”
Such as getting rid of capitalism. Which is worth doing anyway, even if we’ve passed the global warming tipping point. Fight on!


Greg Woods
October 14, 2018 4:51 pm

These doomsters can take direct action themselves by renouncing the use of all petroleum products, and setting an example for the rest of us…

John Endicott
Reply to  Greg Woods
October 15, 2018 11:35 am

That’s not how it works, Greg. It’s everyone else that has to change their ways, never the doomsters. After all, they need to jet around the world and make use of all those petroleum products in order to tell everyone else what they should be doing.

October 14, 2018 5:10 pm

The Guardian (Hope Solo) also warns about “USA women are dominated by white girls next door”. I wouldn’t trust a publication known for its rabid diversity (i.e. color judgments – racism, sexism).

Farmer Ch E retired
October 14, 2018 5:22 pm

“But there is an inner core of fanatics – people who truly believe the world is about to end, unless they personally act to shut down fossil fuel production and consumption.”

As a suggestion, these fanatics should take an inventory of their personal positions and toss anything that is a petroleum byproduct. I suspect the Antifa protestors in the top photo would have a hard time dressing for their cold-weather protest.

Tom Abbott
October 14, 2018 5:25 pm

It looks like the IPCC report has scared some people. There they are getting all worked up over nothing. They have been sold a lie and it is detrimentally affecting their lives. If only they knew the truth: The UN IPCC and all their scientists couldn’t prove any of their dire claims if their lives depended on proving it.

An aside: I watched an interview with President Trump on CBS’s “Sixty Minutes” program tonight and he was questioned about whether he still thought climate change was a hoax after Hurricane Michael and other recent hurricanes.

Trump said (I’m paraphrasing) he knew there were stronger hurricanes in the past and when asked if he believed the climate was changing because of human activity he said he didn’t agree, and the interviewer, Leslie Stall, wanted to know why he didn’t believe when scientists said it was true, and Trump said some of his scientists didn’t agree with that, and Stall asked who they were, but Trump didn’t name anyone.

A transcript of the interview would be interesting for the readers at WUWT.

Patrick MJD
October 14, 2018 5:47 pm

“We also need to shut down production directly, with a just transition for workers in those sectors. Five countries – Belize, Ireland, New Zealand, France and Costa Rica – are already working on bans on new exploration and extraction,”

The latest Green mad PM of New Zealand has already banned exploration, but not for another 30 – 35 years.

Mike Smith
October 14, 2018 5:55 pm

Jeeze. Next the Guardian will be calling on Trump to nuke China and India thus cutting the world’s CO2 emissions by half.

Gary Pearse
October 14, 2018 6:09 pm

OMG! The Guardian identifying today’s “progressive”, designer-brain mobs with Soviet dissidents Sacharov and Shcheransky! The a shame is bottomless. The dissidents were the 3% and you marxytotes are the 97% for cryssakes! The UN/IPCC is The Soviet Presidium of the new тотаliтагуаи putsch. You mugs would have put your 97 million boots to the dissidents with gusto and bloodlцst.

I remember when the Poles rebelled at the Gdansk shipyards, marking the beginning of the end of the Soviet empire. They called their movement Solidarity. So, the British Columbia Teachers Union renamed their organization Solidarity! The unmitigated gall of of well fed, well paid and pampered Canadian teachers purloining the name of this group of death defying freedom fighters shocked and dusgusted me. Invoking Soviet dissidents as “just like us” by the mob of spoiled, moronic, misanthropic climate activists shows the breadth of the disconnect.

Patrick MJD
October 14, 2018 6:26 pm

I count at least 8 with faces covered. Plenty of synthetics, plenty of tech. And they want to ban fossil fuels?

Steven Fraser
Reply to  Patrick MJD
October 14, 2018 7:06 pm

And you did not mention the belts and shoes…

Farmer Ch E retired
Reply to  Steven Fraser
October 14, 2018 8:27 pm

. . . and eye glasses with polycarbonate lenses.

October 14, 2018 6:27 pm

Maybe start saving the planet by cutting electricity to The Guardian. They should love it if I understand them correctly.

Reply to  Rachelle
October 15, 2018 4:26 am


Patrick MJD
October 14, 2018 6:35 pm

“Taking action is the best way to live in conditions of crisis and violation, for your spirit and your conscience as well as for society. It’s entirely compatible with grief and horror; you can work to elect climate heroes while being sad.”

What crisis? The only thing being violated is other people’s freedom to chose. For society? By destroying the systems and resources that brought them their society!

These people are insane. Not only that, criminally insane!

Reply to  Patrick MJD
October 14, 2018 7:09 pm

they create nothing of value. they are spoilers.
they don’t need smarts because destruction is easy.
expect it. if the manipulators can’t rule the world, they’ll burn it down.
everybody is making open threats – maxine, hillary, holden
while the msm censors reporting. ‘mob’ has been banned from use .
there will be no restraint
all the pawns are disposable
heh- i can imagine all the preppers saying ‘see!’


October 14, 2018 6:42 pm


How Tamino proved himself wrong.

Tamino has made it clear, that he is a slowdown, pause, and hiatus, denier.

But in a recent post, Tamino has made a stupid mistake.

In his eagerness to show how bad global warming is, Tamino has accidentally acknowledged that the recent slowdown exists.

Steven Fraser
October 14, 2018 7:04 pm

Take away all the stuff made by heating raw materials, stuff like …. steel, glass, concrete, bricks, and things made with the machines containing those materials … cotton fabric, automobiles, roads, satellites, multi-story buildings.

What goes away?

Too many to consider.

Back to MWP tech. Wahoo.

Jim Clarke
October 14, 2018 7:17 pm

“but just as Sakharov and Sharansky probably didn’t imagine that the Soviet Union would dissolve itself in the early 1990s”

Well they should have. Really…it was not that hard to see. Sometime in the earl 70’s, while attending high school, I learned something about socialism and I learned something about the Soviet Union. Not all that much, really. Just enough to know that the Soviet Union would not exist as a country by the end of the 20th Century. It clearly wasn’t sustainable.

The collapse of the Soviet Union still surprises those on the left. They really can’t understand what happened. They seem to have no ability to see that socialism is a really horrible way to organise human beings.

They also seem to have no ability to understand what ‘2 degrees warmer’ is (barely discernible), or how absolutely horrible their lives would be without fossil fuels.

People devoid of deductive reasoning should not be telling everyone else what to do! I will not go well!

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  Jim Clarke
October 14, 2018 10:51 pm

Well, it wasn’t really true communism you see. /sarc

Wiliam Haas
October 14, 2018 8:30 pm

We are already much more than 1.5 degrees C warmer than the coldest periods before the industrial revolution. The current warming up form the Little Ice Age looks alot the warm up from the Dark Ages Cooling Period except that the current Modern Warm Period is not yet as warm as the Medieval Warm Period. The previous interglacial period, the Eemian, was warmer than this one with more ice cap melting and higher sea levels yet no tipping points happened, life went on and the last ice age followed.

from an analysis of the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, one can conclude that the climate change we are experiencing is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. Despite the hype, there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and plenty of scientific rationale that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. The AGW conjecture depends upon the existence of a radiant greenhouse effect caused by trace gases in the Earth’s atmosphere with LWIR absorption bands. Such a radiant greenhouse effect has not been observed in a real greenhouse, in the Earth’s climate system or on any planet in the solar system with a thick atmosphere. The radiant greenhouse effect is science fiction so hence the AGW conjecture is science fiction as we.

There may be many good reasons to be conserving on the use of fossil fuels but climate change is not one of them. Our current civilization depends upon the use of a lot of energy. To significantly reduce that use of fossil fuels be need to replace fossil fuel based power plants with new technology nuclear based power plants.

Those that really believe that the use of fossil fuels is so bad should immediately stop making of any goods and services that have involved the use of fossil fuels. For most of us that includes the food we eat. the water we drink, the clothes we wear. the homes and buildings that we live and work in , the transportation we use, and even the surfaces that we walk on. I have yet to see many returning to the wild and I doubt that few could survive without making use of goods and services that make use of fossil fuels.

October 14, 2018 8:47 pm

Re. clean energy provides lots of jobs. I recall the little Old Lady saying to the foreman on a building site with modern machinery, that he should employ 100 men with shovels instead of machinery. He replied “What about a 1000 with teaspoons”.

But as we are now finding with automation and robot assembly lines, for the first time we may be creating a situation when there are insufficient jobs for those willing to work. W hat them ?.

Who knows, the Greens have realised this and are creating the likes of “Teaspoon jobs”for the future , Ha Ha.

But the big snag is that such workers will still want a 40 hour wage package.

E J Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Michael
October 15, 2018 1:36 am

On past evidende of several cycles of automation and innovation since the industrial revolution, which resulted in the creation of more jobs than the machines replaced, I surmise that your prediction is incorrect. There will be a lot of jobs, we only do not yet know what they will entail.

Russ Wood
Reply to  E J Zuiderwijk
October 15, 2018 8:36 am

” we only do not yet know what they will entail”. Right! But one thing that WILL be required is a decent education. In the “4th Industrial Revolution” (whatever that is), workers are going to have better (or at least more applicable) qualifications that a degree in Womens Studies. Of course, there’s always (spit) politics! In almost every country, one doesn’t seem to need education or even understanding to be successful (or at least rich).

Reply to  Michael
October 15, 2018 9:48 am

Automation makes stuff cheaper, the result being that you don’t need to work as many hours in order to afford the basics.

I read a science fiction book once where automation had replaced all jobs. People worked for social prestige.

John Endicott
Reply to  Michael
October 15, 2018 11:50 am

But as we are now finding with automation and robot assembly lines, for the first time we may be creating a situation when there are insufficient jobs for those willing to work. W hat them ?.

Not if history is any indication. Automation creates new jobs that didn’t exist prior to automation. Granted the new jobs require a different skill set to the old jobs that were replaced, so displaced workers will require training and education to move to a new job.

October 14, 2018 9:07 pm

“On one level the IPCC has overplayed their hand – their predictions of imminent doom are so ridiculous the IPCC are straining credibility with their claims, even amongst their believers. Jumping the shark with ever more ridiculous claims will eventually lead to the total downfall of the IPCC’s credibility.”

Yes sir. This is true.
But do you think they can regain their credibility with the “hidden heat” dynamics of changes in ocean heat content?

M__ S__
October 14, 2018 9:24 pm

How ’bout we just shut down the IPCC

A lot cheaper that way.

October 14, 2018 10:01 pm

“renouncing poison doesn’t have to be framed as sacrifice.”

(Until your heating gets turned off, that is).

Roger Knights
October 14, 2018 10:05 pm

PREDICTION: IGPOCC’s Special Report 15 will give the pro-nuke green faction (Hansen, Gore, Gates, Trenberth (?)) enough ammo to de-marginalize them. Soon we should see opinion-eds and articles from their spokespeople. Next they should have a seat at the table and be a part of the conversation within green circles. Journalists will give them good coverage.

Martin Hovland
October 14, 2018 10:12 pm

Let them fry in their own fat…
Long live NIPCC !

Robert of Ottawa
October 14, 2018 10:46 pm

these are the people who think it is acceptable to physically attack oil infrastructure

These are the people running the federal and Alberta and BC provincial governments in Canada.

October 14, 2018 10:51 pm

Sounds to me like we have big dark money circulating, a lot probably from China, to move to wind and solar, funding a disinformation campaign.

Tim Crome
October 14, 2018 11:44 pm

The charges against the activists who shut down pipelines have recently been dropped. Another reason for a Guardian article!

ferd berple
October 15, 2018 12:17 am

inventor of “mansplaining”
Who invented “wifesplaining”?

Mansplaining = word in edgewise.

Wifesplaining = you better listen.

E J Zuiderwijk
October 15, 2018 1:30 am

A call to join the crusade against the evil enemies of the goddess Gaia to take us to the green promised lands. It will end like its great historic example: in blood, lots of it, and a massive hangover when it is clear that neither the goddess nor the promised land do exist.

old construction worker
October 15, 2018 2:47 am

‘…and jobs that don’t give people black lung and don’t poison surrounding communities.’ Interesting: So mining for raw material and the manufacturing of raw material into solar and wind power doesn’t have any health risk?

Johann Wundersamer
October 15, 2018 3:30 am

“Whoever is in command of the state of emergency ä is sovereign.”

somehow the Guardian believes he commands the state of emergency and therefore is the sovereign.

One day, the Guardian will have to answer to the real world.

October 15, 2018 4:16 am

The age of apocalyptic claptrap dressed up as science really began with Paul Ehrlich’s long falsified “Population Bomb” theory. By now, we should have been suffering from huge famines, resource shortages, runaway good prices, and worse for decades.
Ehrlich was flat out wrong on each and every one of his predictions.
That Ehrlich has never been publicly disavowed for his lucrative bs speaks volumes about the weakness of modern academia.
Hansen, of course, found a bigger and more lucrative claptrap in “global warming”.
Not a single prediction he made over 30 years she has come remotely true. And Hansen along with his loud mouthed self declared academics have told us we are only a few years away from doom the entire 30 years.
They have been proven completely wrong.
Hansen was even able to speak out on his delusional idea that Earth could become like Venus and not get laughed off the stage.
Once again academia betrayed us by silently endorsing the alarmists crap.
Yet here we are again with an alleged scientific organization making infantile cheap shabby scary stories that have sciencey words to pretend they are credible.
What utter disgusting hogwash that a world built by hard working rational men and women is bring destroyed by alarmist scammers pushing non-factual end of the world doom.

October 15, 2018 5:38 am

As they say, the picture is worth a thousand words.

October 15, 2018 5:50 am

It’s the next phase of Brexit…..and exit from reality.

October 15, 2018 7:19 am

Reagan proposed in 1983 a Soviet US combined effort , the Strategic Defense Initiative SDI. Andropov refused, starting the economic collapse which hit 5 months too late. Refusal to progress to new physical principles doomed the economy, which imploded. Sir Henry had a fit, cought by surprise by Reagan.

Problem is the next foot is now falling, the refusal of the West afterwards to progress to new physical principles, and a monumental crash is now immanent, Lehman being merely a dress rehearsal.
Progress or go extinct is the motto.
Communism hindered progress, but what is it in the West? Trump like Reagan is breaking the mold, cutting the Gordian knot. Who tied that damned knot?

Reasonable Skeptic
October 15, 2018 9:34 am

If I was a psychologist and had alarmist patients, I would recommend a three step process.

1) Stop reading alarmist information cold turkey
2) Wait for one year
3) Read WUWT

October 15, 2018 10:51 am

I came across this in today’s Daily Mirror. I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry. This is the sort of crap we’re up against. The woman writing it left school and went straight into journalism. Enough said.

October 16, 2018 12:30 am

It’s not all bad – yesterday, the UK climate change minister was reporting to parliament on GB Green week (or something similar) and though reeling off sums of money “invested” that added up to £billions, she did make the astounding statement that the UK was coal-free for THREE WHOLE DAYS last July. Now that’s progress!

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