President Trump Mocks Subsidised Wind Energy

Official White House Photo of President Trump

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Breitbart – “That’s the end of that windmill” – a video clip of President Trump mocking wind power, criticising the ongoing green mass murder of birds, and miming shooting a wind turbine at a New York Fundraiser.

History will not judge kindly all the greens who stood by while birds were slaughtered in the name of saving the environment.

One of my first lessons while learning to fly was that eagles and other large raptors don’t get out of the way. Millions of years of evolution has taught eagles especially that they are the lords of the sky, that nothing can challenge them when they are in the air. Its not that the eagles can’t see the turbine blades, they simply cannot grasp that the lump of metal or fibreglass whooshing towards them poses any kind of threat.

As a pilot I can evade large birds. But wind turbines are static, they have no capacity to avoid a collision.

As long as wind turbines are being built, the slaughter of endangered large birds of prey will continue.

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August 14, 2018 3:40 am

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/06/pope-francis-seeks-green-energy-miracle-from-oil-companies/#comment-2368395

[excerpted and edited]

I tire of terms such as “clean energy” and “green energy”, emotional words used by scoundrels to enlist and motivate imbeciles.

Most renewable energies are not “clean” or “green” and produce little useful energy, because they are too intermittent, too diffuse and above all are NOT dispatchable.

I provided a rough calculation on wattsup that (grid-connected) wind energy is worth about 5% of dispatchable energy, because wind requires almost 100% conventional back-up and is often not available when you need it most.

Years ago I tried to “dumb down” this message so even politicians could understand it:

“Wind power – it doesn’t just blow – it sucks!”

“Solar power – stick it where the Sun don’t shine!”

Regards, Allan 🙂

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
August 14, 2018 4:19 am

Trump is getting energy right – just as every pro-green-energy scoundrel/imbecile got it wrong.

My expertise is energy, and I have an outstanding track record of successful achievement. I was recently nominated for an award by two of the top people in Canada for initiating three of the four major factors that revitalized the Alberta energy industry, driving 250 billion dollars in investment and creating 500,000 new jobs.

I have been frustrated for decades with our corrupt/idiot politicians, who have been driving up energy costs and destabilizing vital energy systems with intermittent “green energy” schemes, which are not green and produce little useful (dispatchable) energy.

Most politicians are so ignorant about energy that they should not even opine on energy, let alone set energy policy.

Cheap, abundant, reliable energy is the lifeblood of society – it IS that simple.

When green scoundrels/imbeciles drive up energy costs, they increase Winter Deaths, especially among the elderly and the poor, and they drive away investments and jobs.

Green energy is not only bad for humanity, it is harmful to the environment. From slicing up birds and bats to clear-cutting the rainforest in SE Asia and the Amazon for biofuels to draining the vital Ogalalla aquifer to grow corn for fuel ethanol in the USA, almost every green energy scheme is a really terrible idea, both economically and environmentally.

It is difficult to believe how terribly wrong our corrupt/idiot politicians have been on green energy, until you realize they all made money promoting it.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
August 14, 2018 4:33 am

I posted the following BEFORE the last USA election.

America won – the nation AND the people.

Attaboys all around.

Best, Allan 🙂

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/10/24/the-clintons-renewables-plan-would-create-green-jobs-but-would-also-destroy-real-jobs/#comment-1885571

Hi John MacDonald,

My serious comments in the above post were these, and they were very serious:

“A USA election is imminent. For most countries, I suggest that the question of a Hillary vs a Donald would come down to “who gets energy right (Donald), and who gets it utterly wrong (Hillary).”

Cheap, reliable abundant energy is the lifeblood of society, and our very cheap fossil fuel energy should provide our two countries with an overwhelming economic advantage, IF the greens would stop sabotaging our economies to advance their far-left political objectives.

Since the USA is a global power, there are more issues than just the domestic economy.”

I tend to agree with your comments John, regarding the risks to “liberty and freedom, the rule of law and the survival of the Constitution”. However, as a Canadian I do not think I should comment on these matters. The American people have a critically important choice to make, and you should understand these issues far better than I do.

I hope your voters do not get dragged down by the mud-slinging that is going on, and focus on the facts that matter. For the Clintons to focus on Trump’s alleged sexual misconduct, given Bill’s sordid history, is a remarkably bold attempt to influence the stupidest voters in America.

I have never liked campaigns to “get out the vote”. I would be much happier if there was a campaign to urge really stupid voters to stay home – something like a skill-testing question on a billboard, with the caption:
“If you are too stupid to answer this question, STAY HOME – you’re way too stupid to vote!” 🙂

Regards, Allan

Dr. Strangelove
August 14, 2018 4:10 am

Chop the birds!

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Lewis Bowlby
August 14, 2018 4:17 am

Don’t vote ever for any politician who in any way supports any kind of subsidy for any kind of wind power. Cut off the funding, cut off the killing.

MarkW
Reply to  Lewis Bowlby
August 14, 2018 6:54 am

Don’t vote for a politician who supports subsidies of any kind.

Don B
August 14, 2018 5:53 am

It can not be emphasized enough: “free” wind and solar cause electricity prices to rise.

“Who would have thought? Nations with more renewables have more expensive electricity”

http://joannenova.com.au/2018/01/who-would-have-thought-nations-with-more-renewables-have-more-expensive-electricity/

BallBounces
August 14, 2018 6:38 am

Birds are mashed to bits… while the crickets chirp…

Sheri
Reply to  BallBounces
August 14, 2018 1:15 pm

Worse than crickets chirping, wind actively defends and endorses the killing of the birds.

Jon Beard
August 14, 2018 7:07 am

For 50 years wind turbines for electricity have been an infant technology that demands massive taxpayer dollars to build, a tax free existence and mandatory purchase at several times the cost of readily available and, in comparison to natural gas, having an impact on carbon emissions and pollution that is miniscule. They survive only with huge propaganda campaigns by those who make money off their existence (which would be those that build and operate these enormously expensive and inefficient monuments) and politicians getting kickbacks in the form of campaign donations and by being given the ‘Wizard of Oz’ illusion that they are saving the planet.

ResourceGuy
August 14, 2018 7:29 am

Greens don’t even know the difference between a deduction and a credit on tax returns and the social consequences of paying no taxes because of credits.

Steve O
August 14, 2018 7:34 am

Windmills don’t even look like they generate that much wind.
And the power consumption must be enormous.

Reply to  Steve O
August 14, 2018 3:32 pm

Steve O

The money consumption when they don’t turn and the operators are still paid is even more eye watering.

ResourceGuy
August 14, 2018 7:37 am

Silent Spring but with a whoosh of the giant blade.

August 14, 2018 8:41 am

Trump is right, and also does a great job of mocking/triggering the loonies. Exactly what is needed.

Reply to  beng135
August 14, 2018 8:51 am

Don’t you just love it when he calls a black woman a “dog?” Tell me that is exactly what we need.

Reply to  David Dirkse
August 14, 2018 9:19 am

Seems like somebody was triggered…..

I care less about what he says than what he DOES — like unmasking the rampant, deep corruption developed by and still present in the government from the Obama junta. And gradually undoing all the damage done by the same. THOSE are the important things.

Chris
Reply to  beng135
August 14, 2018 9:30 am

Sure, that explains why several of his Cabinet appointees including Pruitt and Price were forced to resign over ethics violations. Trump has had a higher % of senior appointees leave (forced out, resigned or fired) than any President in history.

Reply to  Chris
August 14, 2018 10:29 am

Chis! Triggered you too! As a snow-fake, you’re melting, melting….

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Chris
August 14, 2018 11:45 am

Trump is fine-tuning his organization. None of this reorganization has distracted Trump from his goal of Making America Great Again.

I think Trump said he still had about 400 appointees that had not been given a vote because the Senate Democrats are obstructing the process at every available opportunity.

I guess the Senate Democrats want to keep The Swamp entrenched in the various bureaucracies for as long as possible.

The Senate Democrats aren’t having as much success holding up Trump’s judicial appointees because former Senator Harry Reid decided to change the Senate rules and allow a simple majority vote for confirmation (51 votes instead of 60).

Trump is going to end up appointing a record number of Federal Judges.

Sheri
Reply to  Chris
August 14, 2018 1:13 pm

So what you are saying is the thieves, cheats, and liars were always kept by previous presidents.

Reply to  Chris
August 14, 2018 3:35 pm

Chris

Here we go again. You on your “ethics” violations.

You wouldn’t know an ethic if it bit you on the arse.

MarkW
Reply to  David Dirkse
August 14, 2018 10:12 am

Interesting. According to you, insulting a black person is proof of racism.

Reply to  MarkW
August 14, 2018 10:21 am

Calling your wife/girlfriend a “dog” is an insult, but who said the insult was racist?

John Endicott
Reply to  David Dirkse
August 14, 2018 11:57 am

If the poster (i.e. you) wasn’t implying racism, why bring up the “dog’s” race?

John Dilks
Reply to  David Dirkse
August 14, 2018 4:28 pm

David Dirkse, You did, by adding the adjective “black” to “woman”.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  David Dirkse
August 16, 2018 6:56 am

“Dog” can also just mean a low-life.

Sheri
Reply to  MarkW
August 14, 2018 1:14 pm

Even if they desperately deserve it.

Sheri
Reply to  David Dirkse
August 14, 2018 1:11 pm

He called a backstabbing, arrogant, nasty person a dog. Yes, we need more of that.

Reply to  Sheri
August 14, 2018 2:23 pm

You really think Donald will call himself a dog? (although anyone that brags about “getting away” with grabbing a woman’s kitty is in essence a DOG).

Sheri
Reply to  Betty Pfeiffer
August 14, 2018 4:22 pm

I really think that people like yourself are so far distant from reality that you can never, ever know anything but fantasy and lies.

Reply to  Sheri
August 14, 2018 4:41 pm

Only a “dog” would pay a woman $150,000 for a one night stand.

Theo
Reply to  Betty Pfeiffer
August 14, 2018 9:05 pm

Betty,

It wasn’t a one night stand.

Trump, author of “Art of the Deal”, got a hell of a deal for his consenting relationship with a gorgeous porn star.

Clinton paid over 800 grand to the attractive, but not world class porn star beauteous Paula Jones for only exposing himself to her, against her wishes. I’ve tried to forget the details, but IIRC, she got off easy and he didn’t rape her, as he did so many other victims.

Clinton has so lowered the standard, that now even forcible rape, with lip biting, doesn’t disqualify a president, as long as he’s a Democrat. Nor his accomplice “wife”.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Theo
August 16, 2018 6:57 am

You think Stormy Daniels is gorgeous?

John Endicott
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 17, 2018 9:32 am

Everyone is gorgeous to someone. There’s no accounting for taste.

Jack Roth
Reply to  Betty Pfeiffer
August 26, 2018 5:35 am

“Betty” is a sockpuppet

Tom Abbott
Reply to  David Dirkse
August 14, 2018 7:50 pm

“Don’t you just love it when he calls a black woman a “dog?”

Trump calls lots of people “dog”. He called all these people dogs at one time or another:

Mitt Romney

David Gregory

Chuck Todd

Ted Cruz

Brent Bozell

Erick Erickson

Glenn Beck

Steve Bannon

Bill Maher

David Axelrod

Arianna Huffington

and now Amorosa

E.S.
August 14, 2018 9:22 am

Hawaii is asking to “take” more endangered Hawaiian hoary bats.
“We want green energy, but are we willing to do that at the extinction of our only native land mammal?”
Wind Farms Want Permission To Kill More Bats — A Lot More.

https://www.civilbeat.org/2018/08/wind-farms-want-permission-to-kill-more-bats-a-lot-more/

Sheri
Reply to  E.S.
August 14, 2018 1:11 pm

Considering the ESA was always a tool for political control, yes. Birds that get in the way of the CAGW meme must go. They are dying for a good cause, though.
/s (sort of)

Bruce Cobb
August 14, 2018 9:44 am

Yea verily, the birdchoppers are an environmental, as well as economic disaster. They are in fact, worse than useless monstrosities.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
August 14, 2018 11:49 am

“They are in fact, worse than useless monstrosities.”

Absolutely! Windmills are a big, expensive, damaging distration from where the world ought to be going with regard to energy production.

Bore Head
August 14, 2018 11:51 am

When Trump announced his run, I was ecstatic knowing he was anti wind. The liberal politicians along the eastern seaboard have been pushing throwing this junk into our ocean, displacing traditional fishermen from their sacred fishing grounds. We had hope. Now, the administration is pushing wind farms like Obama did. I am thoroughly disappointed.

Dave Anderson
August 14, 2018 12:00 pm

I am the Donald
I speak for the birds.

Non Nomen
August 14, 2018 12:29 pm

Not only the birds will love you for that, Mr. President.

August 14, 2018 2:24 pm

If the problem is eagles and other large raptors having evolved to believe that nothing else in the air can hurt them, then why have I heard so much in past WUWT articles about wind turbines also killing smaller birds?

Reply to  Donald L. Klipstein
August 14, 2018 3:43 pm

Donald L. Klipstein

Perhaps because the large raptors are endangered?

And perhaps the smaller birds are just more numerous and routinely operate at the height of the turbines.

Then there’s bats. In the UK bats are protected, so much so that if they occupy a space in a building they can’t be removed, and by that I mean your house.

But no one objects to them being killed by turbines, no matter how small the numbers may be.

Andrew Dickens
August 14, 2018 3:41 pm

are there any figures for the numbers of birds killed by wind turbines?

Sheri
Reply to  Andrew Dickens
August 14, 2018 4:25 pm

Not accurate ones. Many numbers come from “self-reporting”. We all know how accurate that is. Plus, there are various criteria for counting the birds—a certain radius out from the turbine and nothing outside of it. Thus, if the bird is thrown outside that radius, it does not count.
More telling is bird counts by birding groups that show declines in raptor numbers.

Theo
Reply to  Andrew Dickens
August 14, 2018 9:01 pm

Warmunistas dispute the facts, but it’s at least millions of birds and bats per year just in Spain just from wind farms, without factoring solar arrays. Globally, it’s probably hundreds of millions.

http://savetheeaglesinternational.org/new/us-windfarms-kill-10-20-times-more-than-previously-thought.html

http://savetheeaglesinternational.org/releases/spanish-wind-farms-kill-6-to-18-million-birds-bats-a-year.html

I can confirm from the vast wind farms in my AO that bird and bat choppers kill flying animals every night and day. The power companies hire people to gather up and dispose of any bodies not already taken by coyotes or other scavengers.

August 14, 2018 4:39 pm

Subsidies need to END. Divide the total annual subsidies given out by county, state and federal governments by the number of electrical utility customers. That subsidy is not in your electric bill but is being paid for by those households that pay county, state and federal taxes. It is actually regressive in that while the cost of electricity goes up, mine has increased 5% a year for the last 10 years, the taxes are added on top of what they pay. The poor pay more as they pay both for the electricity and then the Taxes are added to their rent or mortgage. Look at the Multi Billions that Buffets Electric Utilities have been given and had deducted from Buffett’s taxes as a CREDIT, not a deduction but, in essence a check given by the government to pay his taxes. That is CASH not going into the treasury. Cash that YOU have to make up in your taxes. Same with the lack of property taxes on these egg beaters in your county. Your county taxes go UP. And then your electric bill goes up because of the way electricity is sold on the wholesale level.

John Endicott
Reply to  UzUrBrain
August 17, 2018 9:35 am

Here’s an idea. Allow the current subsidies for the Windmills but also add in a fine for each bird chopped. Let’s see how eager they’ll be to build them when they realize the fines would surpass the subsidies.

ossqss
August 14, 2018 8:48 pm

Reminds me of a post Jo shared from Matt a while back….

Read the comments and pay particular attention to TonyfromOz who is spot on!

http://joannenova.com.au/2017/05/matt-ridley-wind-power-makes-0-of-world-energy/

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