GOOGLE and the ‘adjustment’ of inconvenient viewpoints, especially climate

Guest Opinion by Kip Hansen

 

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An odd thing happened when I wrote two recent essays regarding changes that Google has made to its web indexing/search algorithm.  There were two different general opposition opinions expressed:  1) Google is doing nothing wrong, they have a near monopoly just because their product is better and people like it and 2) (lots of noise ending in) “….how dare you accuse Google of being bad!”

It’s a good thing that this site isn’t run by Google, because, if this were Google, those contrary voices would have had to be de-ranked, demoted, and sent to the very bottom of the comments list. After all, it is my opinion that they might be “mis-leading”, “low-quality opinions”, “offensive” (at least to me) or (according to my world-view) “false information”.

Of course, I haven’t really accused Google of anything — Google has publicly announced what it intended to do and has now done.

The change Google made is simply this:  as Ben Gomes, vice-president of engineering, Google Search, said in a blogpost in 2017: “We’ve adjusted our signals to help surface more authoritative pages and demote low-quality content … “

It is worthwhile to look at the larger statement made by Ben Gomes back in April 2017, as reported by The Guardian:

The Guardian piece is titled: “Google acts against fake news on search engine. Firm introduces user tools for reporting misleading content, and pledges to improve results generated by algorithm”          ….

“Ben Gomes, vice-president of engineering @ Google Search, said in a blogpost: “In a world where tens of thousands of pages are coming online every minute of every day, there are new ways that people try to game the system. The most high-profile of these issues is the phenomenon of ‘fake news’, where content on the web has contributed to the spread of blatantly misleading, low quality, offensive, or downright false information.”

Regarding the changes to its search algorithm, Gomes added: “We’ve adjusted our signals to help surface more authoritative pages and demote low-quality content … so that issues similar to the Holocaust denial results that we saw back in December [2016] are less likely to appear.”        ….

Google also promised to open up  how it would make such decisions in the future, although there remained criticism over its lack of transparency.

“As is often the case when Google announces changes, this couldn’t be more vague,” suggested Joost De Valk, a search engine expert at the consultancy firm Yoast.

“The changes come following months of pressure on Google over low-quality and offensive results in its search products, including autocomplete suggestions  which promote the idea that climate change is a hoax.”

–by Alex Hern, Technology Reporter for the Guardian

This sounds like a great idea — let’s get rid of search result links to “content on the web has contributed to the spread of blatantly misleading, low quality, offensive, or downright false information.”   A worthy goal.  Just about as worthy as a local citizens committee organized to rid the local public library of books that are “misleading, low quality, offensive, or [contain] downright false information.”

Out with Poe, Mark Twain and Darwin …  or maybe turn it around, out with any book (or www link) that questions Darwin. That’s the rub.  Evolution is a societal (and scientific) controversy  — who is to decide whether we chuck Darwin or chuck books critical of Darwin.  Most scientists would call for the de-ranking of websites that promote strict Genesis-based Young Earth animals-created-out-of-nothing Biblical viewpoints, but then again, if we’re chucking critical-of-Darwin books, do we have to throw out textbooks which clearly show that strict-Darwinism is a false idea — and has been replaced with a more correct ideas described in the Wiki in  History of evolutionary thought?  Or do we just chuck books we don’t like about Darwinian evolution?  And, who gets to be “we” in the previous sentence?

What about statistics?  Bayes or Frequentist?  Some in each camp of thought consider the other camp to be utter nonsense — but which one do we demote or de-rank as “misleading, low quality, offensive, or downright false information.”  Or do we make sure to include information equally from both sides?  Or favor one side a little?  A lot?  Or pretend that they could both be equally valid?  Or let the citizenry decide by giving equal access to all statistics texts or links based on popularity?

What about really sticky social/moral controversies?   Like the Right to Abortion or the Right of Fetuses to Life?   Which content should we mark up as “authoritative” and which content should we demote as “offensive or downright false”?  Activists on both sides of this issue consider the other side to not only be incorrect, but Wrong, Evil and worse.  Again, favor one?  The other?  Equal position in rank to both?  Pretend that the US Supreme Court is the authority on this moral issue so take the Right to Abortion as authoritative and demote and de-rank all Right to Life web sites?

How about the really hot topic of Gun Ownership/Gun Rights in America?  Fifty years ago, the NRA was the authority on the issue — today, public sentiment has shifted but the US Constitution has remain unchanged.

Over the last few years, I have written here at  WUWT a series on Scientific Controversies: Five major controversies in which one side seems to have an accepted consensus view but also has a vital and strong contrarian view that is solidly scientifically supported.  In at least one case, the Salt Wars, the consensus view, enshrined in the policy views of major government agencies and professional societies,  has been proven to be based on a view of human physiology that has been found to be incorrect — a fact that has not changed the policy stands of those organizations promoting the consensus’ policy preferences.   [see links a bit further on].

It is this situation with public policy positions in regards to scientific controversies that exacerbates the “taking sides” exhibited by Google in its assignment of value judgements on “what viewpoint is authoritative” and “what is unhelpful”.  A Google Search on “dietary salt” reveals the prevalence of the consensus view by Google-determined “authoritative” web sites.  I was able to find the Cochrane Review on salt, which is dated, but which revealed the weakness of the consensus view (as exemplified by the American Heart Association’s Sodium and Salt page.)  The New York Times stories on the issue are represented in search results by Jane Brody’s consensus view supporting piece “Clearing Up the Confusion About Salt” (which doesn’t, by the way, clear up the confusion) but not “Why Everything We Know About Salt May Be Wrong” by Gina Kolata in the same newspaper.  Kolata reports on Dr. Jens Titze’s meticulous research — links to which are in my essay “Modern Scientific Controversies Part 6: Follow Up” (and can be found in the Quick Links  at the end of this essay.)  Whether the changes in search results are intentional or not, or whether they are a fair sample, is not the point — the point is that someone has to adjust the algorithm according to some standard to bias the results (using bias in its native sense) to pick out and elevate “authoritative” pages and demote others to be considered unhelpful, low-quality, offensive, misleading or as containing false information.

The bottom line?  There are Social, Political, Moral, and Scientific Controversies in our modern society that are alive and well and being hammered out.  Some of them may come to conclusions as science advances and others, involving social and moral issues, may never resolve.  Some science issues will resolve, but then later be found to have been resolved incorrectly — as has the dietary salt issue.

On these types of societal controversies, when Google adjusts their “signals to help surface more authoritative pages and demote low-quality content” exactly what is their basis for deciding who (what organizations, what web sites,  representing which viewpoints)  is authoritative and who (what organizations, what web sites,  representing which viewpoints) are “blatantly misleading, low quality, offensive, or downright false information” or “unhelpful”?

Google has apparently marked websites with a top-level domain of .gov as authoritative.  Sounds good?  Sure, unless your views of this controversial subject are contrary to current government policies or you think the government is up to no good on some issue.  People searching your issue will find the government sites on the issue and your viewpoint will be buried.  How would you feel if you lived in a totalitarian nation  and find that a site humanrights.gov.tt (the government of Totaliaria) is  considered by Google to be authoritative?

So, we know that Google has done and is doing this.  We do not accuse them of this, they announce it to the world.

And what will be the real world effects of their intentional biasing of search algorithms?

I think we can all accept that Climate Change is a subject of some public and political controversy and most of the readers here believe that it is a scientific controversy as well.  There is a strong “consensus view” enshrined in  the UN agreements, agencies, and policies: all represented by the IPCC,  its reports and its recommendations.  There is a strong, but minority, scientific view that the IPCC reports are political and go far beyond the science.  This is represented in the United States in survey after survey in which the general public is found to be strongly divided on the issue.

Let’s look at an example close to home of how Google’s assignment of the label “authoritative” to some sources of information and de-ranking as “low-quality” (etc.) other sources affects  this website, Watts Up With That.

How popular with the citizens of the World Wide Web is WUWT?   Last check WUWT had an Alexa rating of Global Rank: 38,982 and a US Rank: 13,124  (these are unverified numbers — anyone with a current Alexa subscription is invited to supply today’s rankings — note:  lower numbers are better, Google.com is #1). To give you some idea of scale, there are 1,766,926,408 registered web domains — in words:  roughly one billion, seven hundred sixty seven million. Of these over 150 million are blogs.   Out of those 1.76 billion sites, and more than 150 million blogs, WUWT ranks 13,124 in the US and 38,982 in the world.  RealClimate.com, created by government employees on your time/your dime, reportedly rates Globally 18,850,016  (again, anyone with Alexa access is invited to update this number).  There is a report that “Climate.nasa.gov” ranks far better at Global Rank: 984 and US Rank: 442, but this is a distortion as we see in the following charts:

alexa_consensus_23July18

 

The Alexa stats are for the root domain NASA.GOV, as indicated by all the nasa.gov sub-domains sharing the exact same statistics, it is the National Aeronautics and Space Administration site that it so high on the list, not the Climate sub-domain. How does WUWT fare in its similar chart?

alexa_skeptics_23July18

The first thing you’ll notice is that Alexa has separated “Climate Change” and the social issue of “Climate Change Skepticism”, listing WUWT in a category of “Society/Issues/Environment/Opposing_Views/Climate_Change_Skeptics”.  Some might argue with that, but it would be a breath of fresh air if Google were to include on search pages for these types of controversial issues, on the first page of results, the top two or three “opposing views” under the top two or three “consensus views”.

Of course, in its own category, WUWT is #1 — by a huge margin.  Why such a big margin?

monthly_page_views_2016_201

All through 2016 (WUWT’s tenth year) and through the migration to the new server recently, WUWT had a monthly average of nearly 3 MILLION page views per month.  Compare this to the NBC touted “Two government websites on climate change [that] survive in the Trump era” — breathlessly reported to have collectively drawnmore than 68,000 page views in May [2018], a more than 50 percent increase from the year before”  —  almost 700 views per day.  Compare to WUWT long-term average of between 80,000 to 100,000 page views per day.

You might ask, if WUWT is already doing so well on the web, why would anyone be upset with the de-ranking/demoting of WUWT in Google Search results?

One, nobody likes to be publicly disrespected, not even me.  Minority voices, like WUWT, who feel they have something important to say want people interested in our issue to be able to find us, and object to someone in a position of public trust, like Google, interfering with, stifling, the ability of interested potential readers to easily locate us by subject search.

Now, let’s do the latest numbers from WordPress:

WUWT_Weekly_Page_Views

WUWT_Search_Referrals

Google’s de-ranking efforts, since early June 2018, have resulted in a greater than 30% drop in search engine referrals — about 12,000 views/visitors lost per week. These particular lost referrals mean that new readers don’t arrive at the home page and don’t subsequently click through to one or more posts. Loss of “first-time” readers means a loss of the portion of those that would become regular readers.  Lost page views (and some of them lost new visitors) equates to lost ad revenue for WUWT — as revenue erodes, the ability of Anthony Watts to keep WUWT on the web decreases.

How do you suppress alternate points of view? Look to the history of newspaper wars in America’s major cities over the last century.   Think of the yellow journalism days, battles for dominance between Joseph Pulitzer and William Randolph Hearst. Simple, you curtail their access to markets, you dissuade their advertisers, you attack their income streams, you limit their distribution.  Google’s de-ranking of WUWT, the world’s #1 Climate Skeptic website, does all three of these.  Possibly intentionally, possibly unintentionally.  Regardless, it does it — makes it harder to keep the WUWT point-of-view on the web.

Is this intentional?  In my opinion, it is probably not a specific attack on WUWT , though this is as yet unknown — (if there are any skeptic sympathizers in Google’s inner circle who can ferret out this information, email me — see the Author’s Note for address, anonymity guaranteed.)  On the other hand, it is certainly intentional to advance the consensus view by upgrading sites to be labeled “authoritative” to be those with .gov  top-level domain, such as nasa.gov,  noaa.gov, and thus all their subdomains, like climate.nasa.gov. In the United Kingdom, the top-level domain for governmental sites is .gov.uk, thus metoffice.gov.uk/climate-guide    There are dangers to democracy inherent in automatically labeling all governmental websites as “authoritative” — the list in my lifetime alone of instances of malfeasance by national government agencies is long and black.

There may have been efforts to specifically de-rank sites that are “skeptical of climate science” from some consensus talking points list — this is unknown and would be pure speculation at this point.  But, it would have been a simple thing for Googlers to look up the Alexa rankings under “Society/ Issues/ Environment/ Opposing_Views/ Climate Change Skeptics” and say:  “Ah, here’s where we start de-ranking, after all, climate change skeptics are, by our way of thinking,  unreliable, misleading, unhelpful…and their information must be  false, because it doesn’t agree with us”.

Do we know that Google for sure actually did this on this particular topic?  No, but Google has not been transparent about their actions — they have only announced their broad intentions and we can see the effect on Google search results.  We do know that Google has publically stated that they will de-rank and demote sites that are in their opinion, and in their own words:  low-quality content, misleading content, offensive, or downright false.  In our field, we know Google’s opinion is that this means climate skeptic sites.  [see the Ben Gomes statement linked in paragraph 2, climate skepticism was used as an example.]

What to do?

This is a difficult question but  can be represented as the Yellow Pages problem from days of yore.  If you had a new business, you struggled to stay alive through the first year until the new Yellow Pages came out and listed your business under as many categories for which  you could afford to pay, with as big as possible an ad on your main category page, hopefully near the top of the list, which was alphabetical.  (Thus there were a lot of businesses like “AAA Locks and Security”.)  If I recall correctly, you could pay extra for ad placement on the appropriate page.

Now, with the Internet taking the role of the Yellow Pages for most localities, one must rank high in search results.  This has spawned a whole industry of  Search Engine Optimization or SEO where professional help is offered to improve your website’s placement in (mainly) Google search results.

The professional practice of SEO has always been considered by Google to be “gaming the system” and Google has spent a great deal of time and effort to fight and prevent such gaming.  But now, it seems, Google  itself is doing the “gaming of the system” — this is not an accusation, this is Google’s announced solution to “fake news” and “low-quality and offensive results in its search products”.

The story of the years-long fight of Shivaun and Adam Raff   against the enterprise that is Google today should stand as a practical lesson to us.   Taking Google  on is not a job for the timid — it may be a job only a national government or one of its powerful agencies can successfully undertake.

However, Google is incredibly sensitive to Public Shaming especially when that comes from the sector of society that is their political base — liberal intense-users of the Internet and associated technologies.  Google  changes policies only after concerted embarrassment in public view — Twitter swarms, bad press, being publicly called out on issues.

While they are not going to change any policies that are to their own economic advantage, they well may re-adjust their  search algorithms to a less-biased state if enough fuss is raised on the issues of Free Flow of Information and Freedom of Ideas.

Here are some thoughts on what we can do:

  1. In your social media spaces, call attention to Google’s giving preference to government sources and de-ranking sites and blogs that criticize or call for reforms — basically demoting the voice of the people in favor of the voice of the government.
  2. Do the same pointing out Google’s biasing search results so that the Big Guys that hold Mainstream Views come out on top — and important minority views are buried under the dross. All this instead of letting the Internet decide through popularity-based rankings.
  3. Use any search engine other than Google and encourage your families, friends, neighbor, businesses to switch default search engines to something else — anything else. Chiefio has an excellent essay about how even DuckDuckGo is biased (because it uses Google’s database) and offers an alternative https://www.mojeek.com/

[Don’t think Google biases search?  Try this “How do I change the default search engine in my browser?”  in a Google search.  For me, the whole first screen-full of links tell you how to switch to Google.]

  1. If you have a blog and wish to join a BoycottGoogleSearch movement, where any attempt to refer to your site from a Google domain returns a re-direct to a BoycottGoogleSearch page (which explains why we boycott Google) please contact me directly at my first name at the domain i4 decimal net. If there is enough support, I will set up the infra-structure and supply code to put on your pages.
  2. Your suggestions are welcome in comments. However, if your comment is simply how useless fighting Google is, how quixotic, how you think it is “wrong”, how stupid, how self-destructive, or whatever non-constructive idea comes to your head — please be aware that  I already know these things.  I am perfectly willing to stipulate all of that, there is no need to argue them in comments, it will not add anything to the conversation.
  3. Whenever possible, share WUWT stories with links on Facebook and Twitter, it helps spread the word.
  4. If “tilting against the Google windmill” is not to your taste, throw a hundred bucks into the WUWT Tip Jar and you will have done your part with much less fuss and mess. As Google’s actions will rob WUWT of much needed financial support (advertising dollars). The world will be a better place for it and you will have my [Kip Hansen’s] personal thanks (with that and an extra five bucks you can get a cup of coffee.) Thank you.

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Author’s Comment Policy:

Regular readers know I try very hard to answer their questions and field their concerns about my work here at WUWT.  As this topic is intensely controversial, I will be glad to respond to polite, constructive comments as best I can.  Feel free to leave your contrary views if you must but I will not be responding to them — it would simply waste my time and yours.

Those interested in the BoycottGoogleSearch effort can email me at my first name at the domain i4.net.

Thank you for reading.

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Quick Links:

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Ben Gomes said in a blogpost in 2017

Google acts against fake news on search engine.

Alex Hern

History of evolutionary thought

WUWT a series on Scientific Controversies

The Salt Wars

Cochrane Review on salt

American Heart Association’s Sodium and Salt page

Clearing Up the Confusion About Salt

Why Everything We Know About Salt May Be Wrong

Modern Scientific Controversies Part 6: Follow Up

Watts Up With That

RealClimate.com

Climate.nasa.gov

Two government websites on climate change [that] survive in the Trump era

history of newspaper wars in America’s major cities over the last century

Joseph Pulitzer

William Randolph Hearst

climate.nasa.gov

metoffice.gov.uk/climate-guide

Search Engine Optimization

SEO

gaming the system

Goggle’s effort to fight and prevent such gaming

Google’s announced solution to “fake news” and “low-quality and offensive results in its search products”

Shivaun and Adam Raff

throw $100 into the Tip Jar

switch default search engines to something else

“How do I change the default search engine in my browser?”

throw a hundred bucks into the WUWT Tip Jar

High salt intake – Titze    pdf here

Increased salt consumption – Titze  pdf  here

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markl
July 29, 2018 9:16 am

Good explanation of conspiracy. Anyone who thinks today’s media is about reporting news is naive. Very few unbiased news outlets exist. It started out very stealthily and innocuous and has turned into open and blatant propaganda.

spalding craft
Reply to  markl
July 30, 2018 11:33 am

Please give me your list of “unbiased news outlets”.

Juan Slayton
July 29, 2018 9:26 am

I see “British Lawmakers” are calling for internet companies “like facebook” to be liable for fake news on their sites:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-privacy-britain/tech-firms-should-be-made-liable-for-fake-news-on-sites-uk-lawmakers-idUSKBN1KI053

The standards of accuracy and impartiality which tech companies are held to could be based on regulator Ofcom’s rules for television and radio, the lawmakers said.

British broadcasters, whether publicly or privately owned, must generally stick to strict rules on political balance and factual accuracy, overseen by a regulator.

Uh….sure. /sark

Brian
July 29, 2018 9:28 am

Yet another manifestation of the Bolshevik err… Google Culture.
Much the same operates as Wikipedia. Here’s a relevant example,
followed by a damning expose’ of the manipulative undercurrent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtDqWCeXbFY

https://anonhq.com/beware-wikipedia-never-trust/

I dislike government intervention. But it appears necessary
to correct the abuses that operate under the titles Google and Wikipedia.

July 29, 2018 9:34 am

I worked for Google for several years and can attest to the far left bias endemic to its culture. If you express any kind of conservative leanings, you will be ostracized as such free speech is considered a micro aggression that offends the many snowflakes they hire. Skepticism of the IPCC draws particular ire as so many of its employees are young, naive and come from elite Universities that drive far left narratives, rather than objective truth. What disturbed me the most was the large number of Googlers who embrace radical left ideologies. The support for Obama was wide spread, TDS was ubiquitous and the support of employees for Bernie Sanders was truly scary.

The problem is that it’s these biased employees designing subjective algorithms which more often or not are comprised of relatively simple code (a handful of map reductions) driven by massive curated lists of exceptions and censures.

Young, smart people can be far more gullible about accepting the word of an ‘expert’ if it’s about something they don’t understand themselves. The rationalization being how can another smart person be so wrong about their area of ‘expertise’. This intellectual shortcoming was groomed during college, where many ‘smart’ professors filled their students pliable minds with far left garbage without the support of proper due diligence. Their goal being to teach ideology and since objective due diligence is the enemy of propped up ideology, the most important part of decision making is no longer being taught and the destructive results of this are now being felt.

John Garrett
Reply to  co2isnotevil
July 29, 2018 10:20 am

Nicely stated.

“A schoolteacher is a man employed to tell lies to little boys.”
-Henry Adams
The Education of Henry Adams.
Library of America edition, New York. 1983.

Roger Knights
Reply to  co2isnotevil
July 29, 2018 12:34 pm

Interesting info from the inside—thanks. It substantiates what Damore said. Maybe his lawsuit will expose more dirty laundry.

July 29, 2018 9:43 am

Kip Hansen: “as we see in the following [@Alexia} charts.”

Actually…no “we” can’t. The text is too small for my poor eyesight and when I blow it up it is too faint and blurry. I do appreciate your contribution in time and expertise.

M__ S__
July 29, 2018 9:44 am

Based on what I see about Google in the news recently, they should change their motto from: “don’t be evil” to: Control information and you control thinking; control thinking and you control people—we aim to control the world.

Red94ViperRT10
July 29, 2018 9:51 am

Of course I tried out mojeek immediately. I searched for “Global Warming”. It was page 6 before wattsupwiththat showed up. Doesn’t sound unbiased at all.

July 29, 2018 10:13 am

Uphold the Scientific Method – NOT authority
Google establishing “authoritive” positions directly harms the foundations of the scientific method stated by the Royal Society:

The Royal Society’s motto ‘Nullius in verba’ is taken to mean ‘take nobody’s word for it’. It is an expression of the determination of Fellows to withstand the domination of authority and to verify all statements by an appeal to facts determined by experiment.

https://royalsociety.org/about-us/history/

Jim
July 29, 2018 10:14 am

Google wants to be the Ministry if Truth. Goebbles would laud their effort.

July 29, 2018 11:03 am

This could actually be a benefit. Eventually, Climate Change may have to actually be defended in the courts, and when that happens they will lose. The science behind climate change has already lost in UK Courts, but it has avoided US Courts. In SF, Exxon capitulated, but they had a financial reason to capitulate. WUWT and other real science sites don’t have a financial incentive to capitulate. There is no Cigarette Lawsuit history hanging over the heads of bloggers simply seeking the truth.

ralfellis
July 29, 2018 11:42 am

Wiki has the same problem with controversial ideas.

I tried adding a two line sentence quoting Josephus Flavius (Judaism’s greatest historian) who said that the Israelites were the Hyksos pharaohs of Egypt. (See Against Apion 26, where he calls the Hyksos ‘our people’.)

This resulted in multiple deletions and 36 pages of talk dialogue, because the Wiki gatekeepers would not accept the quote. Even though Josephus is quoted by every historian interested in Judaism or the Near East. So I was banned from Wiki for my impudence.

The bottom line is that the Wiki gatekeepers did not want anyone to know that the Israelites were pharaohs of Egypt (as claimed by Judaism’s greatest historian). Now you might argue that Josephus was wrong, but nevertheless people should be aware of the debate.

So yes, there are gatekeepers everywhere in politics, climate, science, religion and history.

Ralph

Reply to  ralfellis
July 30, 2018 1:42 am

Just look at the 1336BC de-ranking of Akhenaten – shadow banned until 1907. His crime? Atenism, or Monotheism, a revolution.
Inscriptions carved over, monuments smashed. And all that at the time of Moses. Even today the controversy rages. Google begins to look like the Temple of Amun, a liberal polytheist, wealthy offerings collector.

Alan Tomalty
July 29, 2018 12:38 pm

On my other computer(which is also using WIN10) I cant use Google Chrome as a browser. I had 3 different techs at Trend Micro spend 10 hours trying to fix it and they all failed including deinstalling it and reinstalling it 2 times. They finally gave up and told me to complain to Google. Funny enough Chrome will work in safe mode and in administrator mode. So I use Firefox and other browsers on that computer but if you return a web page in Firefox and try to move it to your desktop instead of simply marking it as a bookmarked webpage, the Google search engine takes over and will create the desktop icon for that page but of course now that it is a saved website using Google Chrome, if you click on it it wont work because it is using Google Chrome to try to go to that site. The only things I can conclude from this is
1) My Google Chrome is permanently screwed up on that computer
2) Google has some financial tie in with Firefox that uses a Chrome toolbar feature.

François
Reply to  Alan Tomalty
July 29, 2018 12:50 pm

Don’t know if you noticed, but it’s been a bit warm lately in Europe and other places. WUWT has been conspicuous in avoiding the topic.

Reg Nelson
Reply to  François
July 29, 2018 1:44 pm

Don’t know if you noticed, but dinosaurs once roamed in Antarctica. Crocodiles once swam in an ice-free Arctic. A glacier carved out Yosemite valley; that glacier is no longer there.

The Earth is over four billion years old, and has been both much hotter and much cooler than it is now. Do you know why? Does anyone?

Nothing that is happening now hasn’t happened before. You’re delusional if you think that.

François
Reply to  Reg Nelson
July 29, 2018 6:26 pm

Dinosaurs, that’s interesting, I didn’t know you were born then. Five billion years ago, there was no earth so?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  François
July 29, 2018 8:44 pm

Francois,
Lame non sequiturs!

Chris
Reply to  Reg Nelson
July 31, 2018 12:22 am

Reg – newsflash, events can have more than one cause. By your logic, we should not worry about man made forest fires because we had lightning causes fires before man evolved. That’s just idiotic, of course.

So yes, warming can be caused by more than one thing. Just because we had warm temperatures in the past due to natural events does not mean we can’t have man made warming now.

manalive
Reply to  François
July 29, 2018 2:13 pm

With July almost over the NASA AMSU 400 mb lower troposphere global temperature anomaly has been tracking about the same as last July viz. +0.2C above the 1980 – 2010
average or around the same anomaly as most months 2002 -2008.

François
Reply to  manalive
July 29, 2018 6:32 pm

For crying out loud, I do not live in the lower troposphere, wherever that is (up on Mount Everest?) 400 mb you say, what would that be in hectoPascal? I live on the surface of this planet, and it is hot there these days.

manalive
Reply to  François
July 30, 2018 1:42 am

The lower atmosphere is where the global temperature trend is measured, what the weather happens to be where you live is irrelevant.
Read this: https://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/jchristy.html

spalding craft
Reply to  manalive
July 30, 2018 11:46 am

Francois has a point manalive. Satellite-gathered temperature sensors measure the lower atmosphere, which is certainly not the same thing as temperature monitored by surface thermometers. Each method has many supporters and detractors. Enuf said.

Reply to  Alan Tomalty
July 29, 2018 6:42 pm

Alan Tomalty, I think there are two things going on.

1. Why your bookmarks turn into Chrome links on the Desktop.

That’s because Windows is configured to make Chrome your default web browser. Change your default web browser to Firefox:
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+make+firefox+my+default+web+browser+in+windows+10

2. What’s wrong with Chrome:

I think it is one of two things. Either:
a. You might have a display driver problem on your computer. Google Chrome likes to use the graphics hardware acceleration to speed things up, and if it doesn’t work it’ll do Bad Things.™
Try disabling hardware acceleration in Chrome:
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+disable+hardware+acceleration+in+chrome
Or:
b. You might have a badly behaving add-on / extension loaded in Chrome. Disable them all:
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+disable+all+extensions+and+add-ons+in+google+chrome

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  Dave Burton
July 29, 2018 8:32 pm

a) Hardware acceleration is already disabled.
b)The tech disabled all extensions.

Reply to  Alan Tomalty
July 30, 2018 5:33 am

That’s a puzzlement.

Do Opera, Brave and Chromium also fail? (They use the same rendering engine.)

You can get Opera from Ninite.

You can get Chromium here:
https://chromium.woolyss.com/

Note that there are both 64-bit and 32-bit versions of Chromium. If you run the 64-bit version of Win10, then you should be able to run either the 64-bit or 32-bit version of Chromium. You probably have the 64-bit version of Chrome:
http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/50195/how-do-i-know-if-i-am-using-google-chrome-32-bit-or-64-bit/

I don’t know whether the 32-bit version would work better, or not. For some programs which come in both 32-bit and 64-bit, one is noticeably better than the other. For instance, the 64-bit version of Microsoft Visual Studio Code editor is rock-solid, but the 32-bit version crashes like crazy.

I assume that you’ve checked your machine for flakey RAM?
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+run+windows+memory+diagnostic

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  Dave Burton
July 30, 2018 9:35 am

Ive wasted enuf time on this anyway. Thanks for your help and interest. I will just use other browsers on that computer

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Alan Tomalty
July 29, 2018 8:43 pm

Microsoft Edge is so abominably slow on my WIN10 system that I don’t even try to use it. I rely on Firefox and hope that I don’t have to resort to Edge in an emergency.

July 29, 2018 1:12 pm

Great essay, Kip.

It’s a hard problem. Some sites really are crackpottery, like Insipid-Unscientific International (PSI), and DisinfoWars. They really ought to be down-ranked.

Unfortunately, someone needs to be able to tell the difference between legitimate science sites, like WUWT, ClimateAudit & ClimateEtc, and the nutters. Most liberals are incapable of that, and that apparently includes the people at Google making these decisions.

Another problem is the up-ranking by Google of Wikipedia articles. Wikipedia articles are good for uncontroversial topics, but for anything controversial, it is worse than useless: it is a leftist propaganda outlet.

Climate change is controversial. So it should not surprise you that Climate Movement activists rewrote over 5000 Wikipedia articles into CAGW propaganda, censoring them to prevent any but the warmist point of view from being represented, to the applause of Wikipedia czar Jimbo Wales.

spalding craft
Reply to  Kip Hansen
July 30, 2018 11:52 am

Kip, I agree Google’s bias is troublesome, but it’s not impossible. IMO Wiki is much worse on topics such as climate change. Google makes it a bit difficult to find contrary opinions – WIki seeks to eradicate it altogether.

JimK
July 29, 2018 2:05 pm

It’s amazing how it resembles the era when the Big Three Networks totally dominated the airwaves. Only back then there was no real way to conveniently discover other points of view. It meant spending a whole lot of time in front of card catalogs and the like in your public library. While I find the ranking systems used by Google, Facebook and Twitter to be odious, at least in this age the curious CAN find different points of view.

spalding craft
Reply to  JimK
July 30, 2018 11:55 am

You may remember that they also had the Fairness Doctrine back them-and the news was much less political and polarized.

Sally
July 29, 2018 2:11 pm

What a remarkably constructive opinion piece! History is replete with examples of where concensus views turn out to wrong. Google’s very measures could result in old pieces that have been debunked still appearing just because it has a specific domain name suffix. Let’s all rush to get . gov domain names…
Anyway. Thank you for telling us how to fight this – it’s one piece in the fight to bring some logic back to an irrational, politically driven works.
The other missing piece would be to somehow working out how to endow everyone with the ability to think critically again … If more people were able to think critically, we wouldn’t have to worry about censoring ‘fake news’ – it’s been around forever, and yet I was taught critical thinking on schools and can ask the question to enable me to ignore it…buy so many don’t .

spalding craft
Reply to  Sally
July 30, 2018 12:05 pm

Sally, so true. The reason Google’s behavior, as described by Kip, is problematic is that it effectively hides contrary material from the lazy. This is a cynical bit of propaganda pandering but the opposing material can always be found.

Robber
July 29, 2018 4:07 pm

Kip, I did a Google search on your name, and top of the list is this current WUWT article. But #3 is a 2016 article from HotWopper blog, and virtually no other references to your articles.

Robber
Reply to  Robber
July 29, 2018 4:30 pm

And when I search Google for climate change skeptic websites, I get skeptical science, kill climate deniers, and other rubbish, not a mention of WUWT. Fake news indeed.

July 29, 2018 5:10 pm

What Twitter tags can be used to shame Google, Twitter, YouTube towards objective even access? How would you rank these? Low 1 High 10?
#GoogleBias
#GoogleBan
#GoogleFraud
#GoogleHid
#TwitterBias
#TwitterBan
#GoogleFraud
#TwitterHid
#YouTubeBias
#YouTubeBan
#YouTubeFraud
#YouTubeHid
#ShadowBan
#ShadowBanning
#Bias
#Biasing
#Biased
#Fraud
#Hidden
#Hiding
#GreenJournalism

July 29, 2018 6:31 pm

#WND World Net Daily has experienced severe bias against it by Google. See Joseph Farah: Help us fight back against the Google Facebook Machine

We’ve seen our revenues plunge from $10 million in 2016, to $6 million in 2017, to what is expected to be about $4 million in 2018, if we’re lucky. This is a direct result of years of discrimination, bias, hatred, mischaracterizations, skewed algorithms designed to favor leftist, anti-God media and worldviews, which all of these corporations share. (If you doubt what I’m saying, consider that Google, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and Amazon all share a common denominator – they all proudly proclaim their formal association with the radical, extremist, left-wing smear merchants at the Southern Poverty Law Center to help them determine what represents bona fide hate-speech content.)

Read more at https://www.wnd.com/2018/07/help-us-fight-back-against-the-google-facebook-machine/

Reply to  David L. Hagen
July 29, 2018 6:36 pm

The same tactics are used on climate as in politics. See:
SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER’S “HATE GROUP” LABEL IS FALSE PROPAGANDA

Based in Montgomery, Alabama, the SPLC is now the nation’s wealthiest civil rights group, with an endowment of more than $300 million, as of 2014. The SPLC publishes an annual “Hate Map,” which lists more than 900 groups nationwide. Dotted with swastikas, clenched fists, Klan hoods, and other hate group symbols, the map is an odd amalgam of the good, the bad, and the ugly. These days, it mixes Liberty Counsel and other nonviolent groups like the American College of Pediatricians, D. James Kennedy Ministries, Family Research Council, and the American Family Association with a motley assortment of KKK, neo-Nazi, skinhead, black separatist, and other fringe racist entities.

Lumping Christian social conservatives with groups like the Aryan Terror Brigade and the Confederate Hammerskins is false, defamatory, and dangerous.

Peter D
July 29, 2018 6:56 pm

Since the fake news/de-ranking issue came out, I have found fewer relevant answers on Google on a range of technical/scientific topics, and a dramatic increase in paid advertising.
To fix the issue, I change search engines mid search. Google was, emphasis on was, the best in the past. I currently see no clear leader in my searches, and will often do the same search on multiple engines until I can get a relevant answer.
Message, if you have a problem with Google, stop using it. If you need to duck around dodgy restrictive speech legislation, search in another country. My own country, Australia, is loosing it’s free speech so I do a lot of searches off shore.

July 29, 2018 7:03 pm
ColA
July 29, 2018 7:57 pm

Kip, search “most popular climate change blog” or similar on Mojeek or duckduckgo (and I suspect quite a few others) and good luck finding WUWT listed, certainly not on the first page! if at all.
You are correct the bias search on google.com, etc. is really bad with WUWT buried 4 or 5 pages down always preceded by a Wikki reference “Watts Up With That? (or WUWT) is a blog promoting climate change denial ”
Can Anthony sue them for deliberate bias?? Surely he has a right for his site to be correctly & fairly represented??

PS Bing needs to be “homogenized” = WUWT 3rd post!!

J Murphy
July 30, 2018 12:27 am

The trouble is, as it always is with people who believe they are right and everyone else is wrong (and that there is a great big, usually leftwing, conspiracy against them), that not only do most people actually trust and believe the BBC and their reporting (thankfully) – http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/howwework/reports/pdf/bbc_report_trust_and_impartiality_nov_2017.pdf – but most rational people would have a problem with any website that allows so many main posts from someone, Tim Ball, recently described by a judge as producing an article “as rife with errors and inaccuracies, which suggests a lack of attention to detail on Dr. Ball’s part, if not an indifference to the truth.”
If you really want to be taken seriously as a credible website, learn to accept reality as most people recognise it and most experts describe it, and learn which writers give you gravitas and credibility and which make you look like the fringe-view website you appear to be to anyone looking in from the outside. Up to you, of course, which you prefer.

July 30, 2018 1:40 am

When Google start to lose market share because of this policy…

Kev Grant
July 30, 2018 2:59 am

I am a pro SEO since 2007. I just wanted to chip in that much like understanding climate change itself, there is a huge amount of speculation and disinformation about how Google goes about it’s stated goals, much of it from Google themselves.

Here is a list of SEO ranking factors which most (who have any idea) would not argue with https://backlinko.com/google-ranking-factors however, I can state with a high degree of confidence (10+ years and hundreds of clients / site data) that if you effectively address 5-10 of those “forcings” and are not somehow specially selected for demotion, then you will rank for your terms.

WUWT is not badly optimized for Google, as WP comes out of the box fairly well optimized, however with long usage (000s of posts) and no particular SEO strategy, WP can become messy and awkward for Google to understand, with reams of duplicate content it can index, and which can interfere with overall performance in a big way. WUWT is not highly-tuned for Google purposes, now suffering from many large site ailments, and so the issue is that diagnosing what is actually happening by comparison to competitors is not easily possible, because the competition in many cases ARE well optimized, so it’s apples to oranges.

Google’s automated approach in the past has not made these kind of site by site adjustments easy for them as the algo was always designed to be able to scale and do it all automatically, so (for many years now) they have been using a team of “search quality raters” see https://searchengineland.com/library/google/google-search-quality-raters to assess results and provide feedback that is then programmed back into the algo.

the guidelines that the raters use to assess results can be seen here https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/www.google.com/en//insidesearch/howsearchworks/assets/searchqualityevaluatorguidelines.pdf

I have to say that the -30% drop in search engine referrals seen could easily just be the effects of this https://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2018/05/29/notice-wuwt-to-begin-migration-to-new-cloud-server-opening-up-new-horizons/ having seen many migrations of large high-traffic / earning sites migrate various places, hosts, domains, merges etc, a 1-2 month dip in traffic while Google sorts it’s (new) sh*t out is not at all unusual, even when correct migration plans have been followed, (and a total loss of all traffic when they haven’t, several times too lol)

anyway, my main point is that while I do think that WUWT is probably “devalued” somehow, I believe it likely to be specifically a phrase or “topic”-related demotion, possibly of the homepage only, because in many other (sub-searches of climate related topics the site is still extremely powerful.

example https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=atmospheric+oscillation&pws=0&hl=en&num=10

I would ask you to take particular note of the other sites in this search, notice any .edu domains? these are seeded similar trust levels to .gov and here WUWT is playing happily in amongst them here?

more https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=excuses+for+the+pause&pws=0&hl=en&num=10
and

and even with “climate” in the search here

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=al+gore+bill+nye+climate+experiment&pws=0&hl=en&num=10

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=climate+fail&pws=0&hl=en&num=10

here is an example of WUWT on page 2 https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=arctic+sea+ice&pws=0&hl=en&ei=4t5eW4nXBpKRkwXmtyo&start=10

however, again, not optimized, no “arctic” in the Page Title. so how would this page perform by simply adding related words here?

Sea Ice Page -Arctic & Antarctic – Latest Global Sea Ice Cover & Extent – Charts & Graphs – WUWT

..it would pop to page 1 in 3-4 weeks for the original term and explode that page’s traffic sideways with related queries, would be my prediction.

So I must caution generally that having seen or been called in on so many instances of suddenly declining traffic over the years, experience says it is usually some kind of tech liability or overlooked SEO on OUR side, rather than Google being continually vicious.

I have been in contact with Anthony and offered free consulting on this, and would like to look into it much further to firstly get WUWT properly ship-shape and working as well as it can under current constraints, and then a more detailed study of what/how is actually happening with the site and Google over a longer period of time.

PS, Alexa is not worth the time it takes to type it in, for research. SEMRush is the way forwards for anything more than huge vague guessed-at generalizations.

Kev Grant
Reply to  Kev Grant
July 30, 2018 4:04 am

and another quick comment on people wondering why for example WUWT doesn’t rank for eg. “climate skeptic blog”

go here, to how Google actually sees and ranks this site http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jMxHDtikYVYJ:https://wattsupwiththat.com/&num=1&hl=en&gl=es&strip=1&vwsrc=0

do a CTL-F to find all instances of “skeptic”

1st instance is in the categories? and then the blogroll, links to other skeptic sites?

are we suggesting that any sites that just have the word a couple of times somewhere near the bottom of the homepage, and in (heavily devalued for SEO purposes, sitewide blogroll links) should be on page 1?

unfortunately, you are up against a very well optimized opponent here SKS, and if you are expecting the Gorg to make positive value judgements about your site’s worthiness for a phrase you have not emphasized at all on your site , you are vastly overestimating it’s abilities.

if you look here you can see the TRUE chart competition for this term. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=allintitle%3Aclimate+skeptic+&pws=0&hl=en&num=10

because if you’re not even putting it in your page title (SEO basics step 1) you arent seriously trying to rank for it, are you?

WUWT does use the phrase on various posts and a WP “tag” see https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Awattsupwiththat.com+intitle%3A%22climate+skeptic%22&pws=0&hl=en&num=10

however tags are just an example of that confusing WP dup content mentioned above and will never be a chart-dominant page because of low optimization levels and ever changing dup content. posts by contrast, fade into the architecture over time, and unless they attract strong links from external sources, tend to weaken over time.

anything competitive that you want the site to rank for has to be factored into a permanent homepage and top nav optimization system, to have any chance of performing well.

If this was all done, and no improvement was seen, then we can start talking lefty conspiracies. I am well-aware of what is happening in that arena, especially Youtube demonetization etc, however given my skeptical data driven approach to life, we would definitely need to rule out the many other possible factors here, to deduce anything of value at all, about what / how WUWT is being treated “specially” by the Gorg.