Toronto Named as the Heartland of the Radical Climate Revolution

Graph from p3768 of J. Hansen et al.: Ice melt, sea level rise and superstorms.
Graph from p3768 of J. Hansen et al.: Ice melt, sea level rise and superstorms.

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Many of us have said all along that the radical left are using climate change as an excuse to rally the troops, but its nice to see it all laid out in clear, without any of the dissimulation or trickery Comrade Lenin recommended for global Communist revolutionaries.

Climate change and the next left

Sunday 17 June 2018, by David Camfield

Climate change is already happening. But the really bad news is that there’s very strong evidence that capitalism will deliver a future of catastrophic climate change that will have far-reaching effects around the world, especially in the imperialized countries of the Global South. There is a vast gap between the continuing growth of greenhouse gas emissions and the massive reductions of emissions needed to prevent widespread catastrophes.

In a thoughtful article, “Revolution in a Warming World: Lessons from the Russian to the Syrian Revolutions,” Andreas Malm writes,

Lenin spoke of the catastrophe of his time as a ‘mighty accelerator’ bringing all contradictions to a head, ‘engendering world-wide crises of unparalleled intensity,’ driving nations ‘to the brink of doom’… Climate change is likely to be the accelerator of the twenty-first century, speeding up the contradictions of late capitalism – above all the growing chasm between the evergreen lawns of the rich and the precariousness of propertyless existence – and expedit[ing] one local catastrophe after another. [2]

In advanced capitalist countries, we could see even more aggressive attacks on public health care, education and social services as states cut there while they spend more in response to floods, droughts and other effects of climate change. It’s easy to imagine mass international migration out of regions of the South hit hard by climate change leading to an intensification of racism and repression and the growth of fascist and other far right movements.

The situation we’re in – a stable capitalist society where the ruling class rules unchallenged, with the working class highly fragmented, divided and depoliticized and a feeble radical left – calls for us to unite on the basis of politics that can guide our activity in the current period. That’s different from organizing around a specific political tradition like Trotskyism or anarcho-communism (or as part of a narrower current within a tradition). It’s also different from adopting a basis of unity that claims to have answers to questions that we just don’t face in this moment of history, such as precisely what kind of society beyond capitalism we’re aiming for or exactly how a transition beyond capitalism could be started.

There’s been an almost complete break between cohorts in Canada, so that almost none of the lessons learned between the 1960s and the mid-1990s about how to build the radical left have been passed down to today’s activists. It’s not that everything we need to know merely awaits rediscovery. Far from it! But some methods have been tested and shown to be effective, while others have been shown to be ineffective. Let’s learn and use what works. And let’s learn from our experiences, like the failure of the Greater Toronto Workers’ Assembly and, for a positive example, the process leading to the launch of Solidarity Halifax.

There are no short cuts to a new left. The best next step will be different in Toronto, where the radical left is larger than in other cities but also more divided, than in other places. Quebec Solidaire, a sizeable left-reformist party, makes the landscape of the left different in Quebec. But we can and must try to take a step towards a new left.

Read more:

The Radical Left won’t get their global warming crisis, nature is failing to oblige with the much anticipated climate change acceleration. But the radical left might be able to spin a potential future global cooling crisis into their radical cause célèbre. Scientists like former NASA GISS Director James Hansen have opened the way for claims that any abrupt drop in global temperature is our fault.

Global temperature becomes an unreliable diagnostic of planetary condition as the ice melt rate increases. Global energy imbalance (Fig. 15b) is a more meaningful measure of planetary status as well as an estimate of the climate forcing change required to stabilize climate. Our calculated present energy imbalance of ∼ 0.8 W m−2 (Fig. 15b) is larger than the observed 0.58 ± 0.15 W m−2 during 2005–2010 (Hansen et al., 2011). The discrepancy is likely accounted for by excessive ocean heat uptake at low latitudes in our model, a problem related to the model’s slow surface response time (Fig. 4) that may be caused by excessive small-scale ocean mixing.

Large scale regional cooling occurs in the North Atlantic and Southern oceans by mid-century (Fig. 16) for 10-year doubling of freshwater injection. A 20-year doubling places similar cooling near the end of this century, 40 years ear- lier than in our prior simulations (Fig. 7), as the factor of 4 increase in current freshwater from Antarctica is a 40-year advance.

Cumulative North Atlantic freshwater forcing in sverdrup years (Sv years) is 0.2 Sv years in 2014, 2.4 Sv years in 2050, and 3.4Sv years (its maximum) prior to 2060 (Fig. S14). The critical issue is whether human-spurred ice sheet mass loss can be approximated as an exponential process during the next few decades. Such nonlinear behavior depends upon amplifying feedbacks, which, indeed, our climate simulations reveal in the Southern Ocean. …

Read more:

While many of our leaders fritter away our wealth on addressing the imaginary global warming crisis, the real potential crisis, the possibility a drop in solar activity will trigger crop failures across much of the North, is being ignored.

Frightened people don’t think, they react – the jump at any promised solution to their problem. Even the voices of the insane left might find an audience in a global cooling crisis.

A strong, vibrant capitalist economy could address even crisis of this magnitude – rapid large scale imports of food from less affected regions could compensate for any local failures. A 2017 crop failure in Spain barely caused a blip in Europe – a few weeks of lettuce shortages. Within weeks large scale imports from the USA and elsewhere made up the loss.

A weak, over regulated society burdened with pointless green taxes might not prove so resilient to a major crisis.

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June 17, 2018 3:22 pm

We are all going to die !!!

Reply to  kokoda
June 17, 2018 5:37 pm


Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  kokoda
June 17, 2018 7:04 pm

Better dead than Red.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
June 17, 2018 7:07 pm


Leo Smith
Reply to  kokoda
June 17, 2018 11:41 pm

Quite soon I suspect in my case.

Reply to  Leo Smith
June 18, 2018 6:04 am

The number of years that I have to look forward to are far fewer than the number of years that I am now looking back on. Adios and sayanara and R. I. P., Uncle Simple, you warped and shrunken mental dwarf.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Leo Smith
June 18, 2018 6:09 am

I enjoy reading your comments, Leo.

Tom Halla
June 17, 2018 3:34 pm

They are called watermelons for a reason.

Reply to  Tom Halla
June 17, 2018 4:06 pm

Weren’t our trolls, just this morning, chastising us for turning this into a political fight?
If you want to know what a leftist is up to, just check out what’s he’s accusing others of.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  MarkW
June 17, 2018 4:41 pm

The killer is that they pretend to be interested in the truth. LOL! Just the opposite.

Leo Smith
Reply to  MarkW
June 17, 2018 11:41 pm

I will repeat: The New Left is run by the people they warned you about.

Reply to  Leo Smith
June 18, 2018 6:20 am

Not sure what you are referring to, Leo. The Old Left boogeyman is a creature of finance capitalism (communism originally was funded by bankers and oilmen, who, unsuccessfully, sought to gain control of the tzar’s Baku oil field). Both the radical Left and the radical Right share a top-down view of society and a penchant for authoritarianism to control it — they differ mainly in the rhetoric used to excite their bases. Remember that environmentalism was real big with the National Socialists, the first on the Right to realize the political capital that could be mined from the depopulation meme — “lebensraum” as geopolitical imperative. I don’t believe there actually is a radical Left left: the repackaged 19th-century nonsense coming from provocateurs like the author of the article so breathlessly quoted above suggest otherwise. And exploiting the idealism of Youth has its limits — they eventually grow up.

Reply to  Richie
June 18, 2018 7:34 am

Nazis are not right-wing: that’s just another left-wing lie. The Nazis took many of their policies from the Democrats, though they toned down the Democrats’ racism, because it went too far for Hitler’s taste.

Reply to  Richie
June 18, 2018 12:09 pm

Reply to Richie :
” exploiting the idealism of Youth has its limits — they eventually grow up.”
When “we” were young the period of ADOLESCENCE was from
about 13 years of age to about 19 years of age ( from roughly
the onset of puberty through to the beginnings of adulthood ).
Now…due in no small way to the EDUCATION SYSTEM……
the period of adolescence has been MODIFIED and EXTENDED
….in many cases into the mid-30’s or even 40’s ……….
….so the “GROW UP” stage has been in many cases ABORTED !
evident in today’s “YOUTH” ………and whilst this group has
it’s exceptions ….they are mostly ideologically HARD LEFT
and think that COMMUNISM wouldn’t be too bad….
..especially IF THEY WERE IN CHARGE OF IT !!
and YOUR PROPERTY would ideally be BETTER
if it was SHARED and that THEY should be PAID
a living wage JUST FOR EXISTING !
and WORK remains a “dirty 4 letter word ” too !
Universal basic income (UBI) is a model for providing all citizens of a country or other geographic area with a given sum of money, regardless of their income, resources or employment status. The purpose of the UBI is to prevent or reduce poverty and increase equality among citizens.
“Universal: All citizens receive the payment.” SOUNDS GOOD !!
“Unconditional: Recipients are not required to demonstrate need or willingness to work.” WHAT? WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM ?

June 17, 2018 3:37 pm

Funny that communist China is far surpassing the capitalist US in CO2 emissions:

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J Mac
Reply to  Eric Simpson
June 17, 2018 4:52 pm

Yes. We really need to ‘up our game’, here in the US of A!

Feed the Plants, to Feed the Planet!

Reply to  Eric Simpson
June 18, 2018 5:01 am

Throughout history, no communist country cared about environment. One can only look at Soviet Union and what they did to see this obvious truth. They would exploit any crisis they can find, but for their own goals.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Udar
June 18, 2018 9:28 am

Lookup the Aral Sea. Or more properly now, the Aral puddles.

Tsk Tsk
Reply to  Udar
June 18, 2018 7:36 pm

Forest cover of Dominican Republic vs. Haiti. ‘Nuff said.

June 17, 2018 3:45 pm

“Toronto Named as the Heartland of the Radical Climate Revolution”

Always puzzles me that Canada should be so keen to stay on the AGW bandwagon.

Of all countries, Canada would probably absolutely fine with even a 5Deg warming. Just think of all the perma-frosted areas that would be available for more sustainable production and swimming and fishing on Hudson bay;)



robert dunning
Reply to  Roger
June 17, 2018 5:56 pm

so agree my friend but like you global warming is an illusion so fishing in hudson bay in january will never happen. mother nature knows better.

Reply to  Roger
June 20, 2018 2:37 pm

Toronto Climate Action Network (TCAN)

Members Groups include: Greenpeace & and other groups.

Sweet Old Bob
June 17, 2018 3:45 pm

It is easier to scare people who have no clue …. hence our present educational system .

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
June 17, 2018 3:59 pm

Our present educational system is a disgrace. An after school program teacher can be fired if one child in the class lies about the teacher yelling at him. All the child has to do is complain to his parents and if the parent complains to the school, the school can have the teacher fired. Not like a court system. It is a kangaroo system. The teacher has no recourse. The situation is different with the regular teachers in the day programs because their union runs the schools. If the teachers dont want a particular after school program to be started, the principal will back down and cancel the course.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
June 17, 2018 11:42 pm

People do seem to be putting it together….

Old England
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
June 18, 2018 1:23 am

In the UK the curriculum includes Climate Change to ensure the brainwashing, or should I say green-washing, of children and that is at least 20 years worth of children so far.

Where is McCarthy when you want him !!

June 17, 2018 3:50 pm

I have compiled a series of arguments to refute the climate alarmists. The more people know about the real science behind climate science, the less power the sophists will have to deceive them.
The Winning Strategy to Defeating Climate Sophist Michael Mann

June 17, 2018 3:55 pm

“Frightened people don’t think, they react – the jump at any promised solution to their problem. Even the voices of the insane left might find an audience in a global cooling crisis.”

Given the utter stupidity (with all due respect) of the modern Progressive Left in the U.S., I’m comfortable believing they’ll still be calling for reductions in CO2 emissions while shivering in the lonely cold.

Reply to  syccomputing
June 17, 2018 7:50 pm

Try reading Fallen Angels by Larry Niven, et al. It reads more like a documentary than fiction.

June 17, 2018 3:55 pm

Recently I’ve been reading Yuval Noah Hariri’s excellent book “Sapiens”. He explains in an incisive way the bases of human society and when and how they emerged. One of these was money. Initially there was just barter of goods then financial tokens like coins. The amount of wealth in society was however more or less fixed. One person getting richer – like a king – meant others getting poorer – such as taxed peasants.

Then in medieval Europe and the Netherlands the idea of credit arose. A loan could be advanced based on the expectation of future repayment with interest. Suddenly wealth could grow, not having to be tied to coins or presently existing goods. It could be tied to goods that were expected to multiply in the future. Economics stopped being a zero sum game. Hariri showed that the succession of dominant powers in Europe was explainable by something as straightforward as credit-worthiness. First the Netherlands shook of Catholic Spanish rule since the more punctilious credit-worthy Dutch could attract more international investment for building warships and hiring mercenary armies, than the financially indisciplined Spanish. Later France and Britain would fight for global domination. France looked the stronger pick at first, but Britain won the financial war of attracting capital investment for warmaking. France, compromised by fiascos such as the Mississippi bubble, lost credit-worthiness, became bankrupted by global conflict and slid toward revolution.

So capital ruled, even back then. The central and brilliantly simple point that Hariri made was that money or credit is the hope of a better future.

Empires such as China, India, Persia, the Muslim world, were until the 17-18th centuries wealthier than Europe. But they lacked the capital system to energise world exploration and development of colonies, that led ultimately to global economic development.

Credit, capital and capitalism are built of optimism. The belief in, and banking on, and thus (this is the bit that the anti-capitalists don’t get) the creation of a better world; which then makes it happen.

Reading Hariri’s insight made it suddenly obvious to me why anti-capitalists have to be dystopian. Prophecies of doom such as harmful global warming, ecological decline, sea level rise etc., erode the basis of money and credit/capital. So it’s obvious why they are irresistibly and continually drawn to one dystopic fiction after another. Global cooling; global dimming; acid rain; global warming; sea level rise; the Great Barrier Reef like mythical Prometheus dying again and again, always magical reviving only to die again. The sea turning to plastic.

They have to kill hope in the future. They need to uproot hope from the human heart. They passionately desire a return to feudal times, with their self-appointed elite inside castle walls raising wealth to sustain narcissistic extravagance by impoverishing bonded, land-bound, energy deprived peasants.

Let’s keep hope alive and keep on demolishing the fictions of eco-doom. Global warming is beneficial, as is CO2 fertilisation. All dismal stories of climate doom remain firmly in a computer modelled fantasy future.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  philsalmon
June 17, 2018 4:36 pm


Stephen Reilly
Reply to  philsalmon
June 17, 2018 4:41 pm

For even more details about what went on back in those days read “Why Nations Fail”.

Reply to  philsalmon
June 17, 2018 5:03 pm

Good points
is warming happening, or has cooling begun?
Do we know anything yet?

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  philsalmon
June 17, 2018 6:31 pm

“…..Reading Hariri’s insight made it suddenly obvious to me why anti-capitalists have to be dystopian. Prophecies of doom such as harmful global warming, ecological decline, sea level rise etc.,..”.

@PhilSalmon. Very well said sir. The climate alarmist narrative assists in serving as confirmation of the dystopian and dysfunctional nature of the capitalist system in the eyes of the Left. It could be said that the CAGW narrative is part of the larger dysfunctional capitalist narrative that drives left wing (or far left wing) thinking. Hence, the notion that there might be scientific problems with the CAGW theory becomes intolerable and unacceptable inasmuch as those issues would disconfirm (to some degree or another) the capitalism-is-dysfunctional narrative. We know that capitalism is evil and dysfunctional and dystopian, thus the CAGW theory has to be right. It just has to be…

When viewed that way unfortunately, the climate alarmist narrative is no longer a scientific theory, but a ideological doctrine (or part of a larger one). Only the “science” that confirms the CAGW narrative is to be considered credible, and questioning it becomes something akin to religious heresy. It is not difficult to find skeptics being treated as heretics today, and thus the true nature of the CAGW narrative becomes evident.

Reply to  philsalmon
June 18, 2018 2:41 am

I’m sorry, but no. The creation of wealth is not dependent on ‘credit’ or any other monetary factor. Increasing wealth is a factor of the efficiency of the workers. You don’t need to be able to borrow credit to create wealth, people do it all the time.

Even a fully Communist society can create wealth. The failing of Communism isn’t that it can’t work, it’s that it requires whoever is in charge to be perfect and always right. Because unlike a free market, Communism doesn’t have any automatic method to adjust to a changing situation. The Communist leader must correctly predict each year (or season, quarter, whatever) how much steel to produce, how many tractors, how much food to grow, how many building to build, etc. Too little of any one of these, and you’ve created a bottle neck that limits the production of everything above it. To much, and you’ve wasted a portion of your production that could have been better used somewhere else, and often what was created goes to waste (tractors rusting idle as people go hungry, empty cities built that no one needed, such is common in Communist countries)

But a free market can adapt to the situation. Manufacturers adjust production to match demand, builders build more if there is an increase in people wanting homes, and cut back (or go broke if they don’t) if people start moving away.

And none of this requires ‘credit’ of course. It doesn’t even require money. A pure barter system can be a free market, and a pure Communalist Utopia (as in Stars Trek) doesn’t even need bartering. (It just needs a population were no one is greedy or lazy. Good luck with that)

All you really need to create wealth is the ability to produce more ‘work’ (the creation of goods or services) then is needed to sustain the workers.
And by medieval times this was already happening. If the peasants weren’t producing more then was necessary to survive, there wouldn’t have been anything for the lords to take. (And a lord who did take more then the peasants could afford found himself without peasants, or a kingdom, soon enough)

What money and ‘credit’ provide in truth is a multiplier. They give you advantages in a free market, like a standard for value, not having to provide you goods or services to only someone with a good or service you require, or being able to improve your productivity with the profits FROM that improvement.


bit chilly
Reply to  Schitzree
June 18, 2018 5:21 am

for communism to be “true”,there would be no leader.

Reply to  bit chilly
June 18, 2018 6:31 am

for communism to be “true”,there would be no leader.

Indeed! And without a leader, who decides how many tractors to build?

That was always one of the problems I had with star trek. Building starships was clearly still a labor intensive project. How did they decide how many to build? Was it based on a percentage of GDP? How do you figure that when there ARE no incomes?

Of course, Starfleet did at least have a hierarchy. So someone was ‘in charge’. I guess the just accepted the inefficiency as the cost of Utopia.

Reply to  Schitzree
June 18, 2018 7:02 am

I would guess they do it pretty much the same way they do it now.
The military guys set their priorities then the political types decide how many of those resources can be built using the resources at hand. Today it’s money, in the Star Trek universe it would be available labor.

Reply to  Schitzree
June 18, 2018 10:16 pm

Nice antithesis.
However Hariri gives historical examples of how capitalism gave society and individuals escape velocity from feudalism, centuries ago.
On the other hand Russian and Chinese communism arguably had still failed to release their citizens from Feudalism by the late 20th century.

Reply to  philsalmon
June 18, 2018 5:10 am

I read that book two years ago. And just like all the priestly academics, power elites and media puppets, Yuval is on board with the AGW scary narrative….oh well.

Reply to  M.W.Plia.
June 18, 2018 1:32 pm

Yes Yuval is reflexively left wing on some subjects where his knowledge is not as deep as others. In fact the insight about capitalism and investment in the future which I outlined was made accidentally by him. I don’t agree with his take on several subjects such as over-optimism about medical progress and immortality. None-the-less I find the book deeply insightful and thought-provoking on almost every page.

Reply to  philsalmon
June 18, 2018 2:01 pm

“Yuval is reflexively left wing on some subjects”
So that’s what happens, I was wondering. Because pretty much all the science type books for the reading public do the same….oh well.

“None-the-less I find the book deeply insightful and thought-provoking on almost every page.”
I did too and I’m looking forward to reading his following book “Homo Deus”

June 17, 2018 4:02 pm

“The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.”

Ralph Waldo Emerson

June 17, 2018 4:05 pm

“A weak, over regulated society burdened with pointless green taxes might not prove so resilient to a major crisis.”

According to the leftists that I have debated, anything short of pure communism is some form of capitalism.
So no matter how taxed and regulated the economy is, if it’s failing, it’s capitalism’s fault and the only solution is even more government.

Reply to  MarkW
June 18, 2018 2:41 pm

And here in the UK, The Top Gear Two – May and Hammond – are – again – going to spend more [yet more] Other Peoples’ Money on the (unreformed) NHS.
Jeremy C will outdo them – as Socialists/Communists do – at spending OPM.
Until, eventually, they run out of OPM!

Surprise . . . .

Do we have a Clarkson who can [purely metaphorically, of course] bop these two hopeless hand-job practitioners on the nose and restore primacy to the electorate?


June 17, 2018 4:05 pm

Doug Ford Leads Ontario Conservatives to Victory

Just 21 minutes after most polls closed, both the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation and CTV News declared that Mr. Ford’s Progressive Conservative Party would gain a majority of seats in Ontario’s next provincial legislature.

J Mac
Reply to  Latitude
June 17, 2018 5:05 pm

Hey Ho – Way To Go Ontario!
Cheers and Applause!!!

Reply to  Latitude
June 17, 2018 5:35 pm

Downtown Toronto voted socialist. Downtown Toronto could be the heartland of the radical climate revolution.

Northern Ontario went socialist but it is sparsely settled and doesn’t have many seats.

At one point the socialists were tied with the Conservatives in the popular vote. The trouble is that the socialists are all bunched together in Downtown Toronto so they won those seats by wide margins. The result was that the Conservatives won way more seats by narrower margins. link

As election day approached, the Conservatives were gaining and the socialists were slipping.

The folks in downtown Toronto can walk and bike wherever so they hate cars and try to make life miserable for drivers. Folks who want to buy a house and raise a family are forced to live in the suburbs and commute by car. We can look on this election as their revenge on the elite who can afford to live downtown.

After President Trump’s election I had some hopes the liberal elite would smarten up. Apparently I was wrong.

Nobody could, or would, say why the outgoing premier was so hated. Jordan Peterson described her as a reprehensible ideologue and the most dangerous woman in Canada. link I think the sex education curriculum may have had a big effect. link

The liberal elite think they can jam all kinds of things down people’s throats. They’re arrogant and don’t learn.

Thus endeth the rant.

Reply to  commieBob
June 17, 2018 7:34 pm

Don’t forget that the Liberals have also left Ontario with the largest non-state debt on the planet: if I remember correctly, the per-capita debt is three times as high as basket-case California. That alone should be enough to justify tossing them out.

They collect a billion dollars a year from taxpayers in Western provinces, and that only covers one month’s interest on their debts.

Oh, and if I remember correctly, they also had the lowest economic growth rate in Canada over the last decade or so. Because socialism. But they have an enormous public sector that’s grown massively over that time, hence the number of people who continue voting for socialism as though their job depends on it (because it does).

Steve Keppel-Jones
Reply to  MarkG
June 18, 2018 5:22 am

Also don’t forget what they did to our energy supply, following Maurice Strong’s plan – shut down coal plants, and install lots of solar panels and wind turbines. Uh oh – that makes electricity too expensive. Not to worry – we can borrow our way out of that problem! No one will notice that we are leaving our children a huge debt as long as everyone’s power bills are only stratospheric and not mesospheric. Right?

I always liked soon-to-be-ex-Premier-Wynne’s comment that she was planning to govern from the “activist centre”. It seems the Left has been quietly moving their idea of “centre” leftwards for quite a while, so that what she calls the “centre” is really the Far Left. I wonder who she thinks is to the left of her in her “centre”?

John V. Wright
June 17, 2018 4:06 pm

It has always been about the redistribution of wealth. That is what the EU is about, that is why the UN was created, that is why the CAGW ‘crisis’ was invented.

bit chilly
Reply to  John V. Wright
June 18, 2018 5:25 am

agreed, though i find it funny(not really) how the redistribution always ends up in favour of those who already have the vast majority of it.

Tom Gelsthorpe
June 17, 2018 4:27 pm

If you want to change the world, it’s essential not to be ludicrous.

You’ve got to be sick in the head to make Toronto, of all places, the epicenter of the alleged climate crisis. Toronto is one of the coldest major cities in the world; Canada is one of the coldest countries. Almost the entire country was a mile deep in ice until about 14,000 years ago. The Great Lakes didn’t exist; they were a vast glacier millions of square miles in area, supporting virtually no life. The boreal forest of Canada and Siberia — which is now the world’s largest forest expanse — started colonizing formerly frozen wasteland only about 10 – 8 thousand years ago.

This was all a disaster? Until then, future Torontons worried about doomsday, could have come no closer than present day Kentucky. Would they have stared at the edge of retreating glaciers, and screamed, Chicken Licken like, “AHHHH. .. The ice is melting! The ice is melting! We’re all gonna die!”

J Mac
Reply to  Tom Gelsthorpe
June 17, 2018 5:14 pm

Toronto is also the southern most major city in all of Canada!
I find it interesting the most rabid environmental leftists are located at damn near the southern most point of Canada, when the folks up in Labrador are 6 feet deep in new snow and begging for even a hint of ‘global warming’.

Tom Gelsthorpe
Reply to  J Mac
June 17, 2018 6:09 pm

Do Torontons bemoan the arrival of summer, and stomp around cussing? “Dang! I don’t need my overcoat anymore, prolly not for another three months!”

Here in the U.S. we have a lot of hand-wringing about warming climate, but it’s mostly the result of propaganda, not actual events, and it’s not reflected in behavior. For instance, the three most populous states are among the warmest: California, Texas and Florida. Since 1900, they have gone from 1.5 million to 40 million, 3m to 28m, and .5m to 20m, respectively, mainly from migration from cooler areas. Even the Mexicans in California come mostly from upland areas that are cooler than California, even though they’re closer to the equator. Florida has multiplied 40 fold in 120 years, and it’s the most humid, the most hurricane-prone, and the closest to sea level, to boot.

Global warming hypochondriacs say they hate heat, but they’re lying, to others and to themselves.

Smart Rock
June 17, 2018 4:28 pm

When I lived in Toronto in the early 1970s, I actually met some of these radical left types. You couldn’t hold a substantive conversation with them because everything they said or heard had to be interpreted via the Marxist-Leninist dialectic. I naively thought that dialectic meant “double meaning” or “say one thing, mean another” but it’s actually far more complex than that, way beyond my poor scientifically educated level of comprehension.

In those simpler times, it was all about anti-capitalism, and the wedge they used to try and suck normal people into their orbit was “Canadian independence at risk from US domination”. Never really caught on, because when you got to one of their meetings, it was all dialectic, and calling each other “comrade”. And the RCMP types in the back row taking notes and photographing everyone – they made me nervous.

So now the wedge is climate change, but the underlying purpose is the same: anti-capitalism. The same capitalism that creates enough wealth to allow them to live on the fringes of society without having to contribute to it, and the same democracy that allows them to rant on, and demonstrate and sloganize, and all the rest of it, without throwing them into re-education camps.

Note the reference to “catastrophic climate change that will have far-reaching effects around the world, especially in the imperialized countries of the Global South”. As far as I can see the big “imperializer” today is of course our friend, ally and “leader of the green energy revolution” (/sarc) none other than the People’s Republic of China, buying up Africa in mismanaged post-imperialized nations.

These people are not a threat and never will be – they are just too boring to appeal to normal people. The threat is from governments in liberal democracies who have bought into the whole alarmist story and promote the development of “renewable” energy by the lavish application of public money.

June 17, 2018 4:44 pm

“Lenin spoke of the catastrophe of his time as a ‘mighty accelerator’ bringing all contradictions to a head, ‘engendering world-wide crises of unparalleled intensity,’ driving nations ‘to the brink of doom’…”

I think the catastrophe of Lenin’s time was Lenin.

Bruce Cobb
June 17, 2018 4:53 pm

Meet the New Left.
Same as the Old Left.
Only newer.
And this time they Mean It.
No more Mr. nice guy.

June 17, 2018 4:54 pm

Yeah, they’re under my bed too…..

June 17, 2018 5:03 pm

Some say we no longer have capitalism, but Monopoly and Crony Capitalism.
When someone dies or otherwise wishes to sell a business, they find someone with money to buy it. That’s usually someone larger, who can take advantage of larger economies of scale, leading to larger and larger billionaires.

Let’s remember that many of our ancestors left Britain and Europe to escape the billionaires of their day, their feudal lords, who used their vassals, we little people, to enlarge their fiefdoms to achieve more prestige, status and hierarchy.

Nothing much has changed in the 500 years since Anglo-European conquest of the Americas. Our billionaires get richer, and the little people have lower wages as efficiencies improve production, and automation and artificial intelligence reduce the number of jobs (50% reduction by 2025 ~The Economist).

There don’t seem to be enough billionaires like Bill & Melinda Gates or Warren Buffet, who have asked, “Why are we collecting all this wealth? What are we doing with it? What are we accomplishing?”

We need to fear both the insane left AND the insane right. Both lead to dictatorship, just different forms of it.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Lorne WHITE
June 18, 2018 12:02 am

Once upon a time, we had lords and peasants. The lords needed the peasants to grow the food. The peasants needed the lords to prevent the food being stolen by someone else’s Lords.

This is called the social contract.

Today we have lords, machines and peasants. The lords need the machines, but not the peasants. Except as neo slaves. They don’t even need the artisans and trader classes. Machines do most of that. All they need are enough engineers to keep the machines running and enough mass psychologists to control the peasantry.

21st century Schizoid man.

So the engineers build the coal and gas fired power stations whilst the mass psychologists generate rationales for higher taxation and windmills – all in the name of protecting humanity from itself. If you play along you will be allowed to have a little middle class affluence. If you point out what is happening you will be destroyed.

It’s beautiful really, once you stop being outraged by the utter betrayal of the social contract that has taken place.

Reply to  Leo Smith
June 18, 2018 7:08 am

Would you prefer that we go back to farming behind mules and no powered equipment of any kind? If so, you would make the perfect green.

Reply to  Lorne WHITE
June 18, 2018 7:07 am

Crony capitalism is just another word for socialism.

For every economy of scale, there is also a dis-economy of scale.
Bigger is not always better. That’s why many companies are breaking themselves up into smaller companies these days.

The feudal lords were the government of the day. They didn’t get bigger because they were big. They got bigger because they had the right to kill anyone who didn’t go along with their plans.

Capitalism doesn’t lead to dictatorship, since no company can force you to buy their product.

Tom Abbott
June 17, 2018 5:19 pm

Nothing is superior to Free Enterprise.

Socialism/authoritarianism wants to take your freedom away. That’s why they don’t like Free Enterprise and labeled it “capitalism” in an attempt to turn it into just another “ism” like communism or socialism. They wanted to bring Free Enterprise down to their level (in the mud).

John Robertson
June 17, 2018 5:42 pm

Nothing out of Toronto surprises me, however the CAGW meme was cultured in Ottawa by comrade Maurice and fellow parasites.
Is this power contest really about climate or capitalism ?
Or is it the age old, feasting for free.
Why work if you can convince other people to reward you for not doing so.?
And Canada is pretty far gone, 60% vote for wealth redistribution and damn near 50% are dependent on the public purse.

Sam C Cogar
Reply to  John Robertson
June 18, 2018 6:47 am

“and damn near 50% are dependent on the public purse.”

I remember reading or hearing that 52% to 53% of all US residents are receiving a “government check” of one form or another.

Reply to  Sam C Cogar
June 18, 2018 7:09 am

Which is why cutting spending is impossible in the US.

George Daddis
June 17, 2018 5:45 pm

It’s easy to imagine….

says it all.

Much easier than using fact based reasoning and analysis.

robert dunning
June 17, 2018 5:49 pm

so right. toronto, and pity pity canadas capital ottawa with trudy trudeau the ding bat. must not leave out the green twits in britsh columbia. silly me almost forgot the communist media in canada that will deny anything from the deniers because they are so dumb and truth in journalism in the west is controlled by putin and not trump. free discussion and truth has blown up in the west. but people who know better will win in the end. the sky is still not falling, and mother nature is still in control, not what man does, she is tough, but thank god she is truthful.

June 17, 2018 5:58 pm

We can hurry this process along if more Canadians would join the boycott of US goods so we can get a better look at the decline in the indicators. The same applies to Germany except the decline is already obvious.

Harry Newman
June 17, 2018 5:59 pm
Pat Frank
June 17, 2018 6:23 pm

Lenin spoke of the catastrophe of his time as a ‘mighty accelerator’ bringing all contradictions to a head, …

That was just before he murdered 10 million people. Communism was the catastrophe of Lenin’s time, and Lenin was its actuator.

Soviet Russia was a great polluter. When did anything remotely like the Kyshtym Explosion happen in any capitalist country? Or like Chernobyl, for that matter.

Communists are the most vile of people. And their supporters in the West, the Progressives, colluded in, and excused, the mass murders of the 20th century and agitate for their recrudescence. They need to be called out on it at every opportunity.

Reply to  Pat Frank
June 17, 2018 6:34 pm

Stick to chemistry Frank, because when it comes to history and politics, you’re clueless. For example Teddy Roosevelt was a Progressive.

Reply to  C. Paul Pierett
June 17, 2018 7:19 pm

Sorry, but you need to find out what “Progressive” meant in 1900.

TR was a Republican from the wing of the party which wanted to regulate capitalism, not smash it. His mom was a Southern Democrat, so he was always conflicted as to the issues which separated the parties in those days, such as equality for black Americans, which Democrats opposed, to include the Progressive (ie, Populist) wing of the Democrat Party, which was for white working men against black US citizens and Asian immigrants, but for European immigrants, whose votes for northern Democrats could be bought by the big city machines.

Reply to  C. Paul Pierett
June 17, 2018 7:43 pm

And Roosevelt’s White House was full of Communists, Communist sympathizers and Soviet agents. Why do you think that, when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, the first thing America did was send vast amounts of military hardware to Stalin, not to the war in the Pacific?

P Walker
Reply to  MarkG
June 17, 2018 9:20 pm

That would be Franklin, not Theodore.

Reply to  P Walker
June 17, 2018 9:46 pm

Duh, yes, you’re right.

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  C. Paul Pierett
June 17, 2018 9:22 pm

C. Paul Pierett said
“Stick to chemistry Frank, because when it comes to history and politics, you’re clueless. For example Teddy Roosevelt was a Progressive.”

The only possible word that Dr Frank said that was controversial was the word “Progressive”.
Everything else that Dr. Frank said was bang on correct. Your attack on Dr. Frank leads me to believe that you are in fact a communist.

Reply to  C. Paul Pierett
June 18, 2018 7:10 am

And Teddy would have heartily supported Lenin.

Pat Frank
Reply to  C. Paul Pierett
June 18, 2018 11:02 am

Pierett, “For example Teddy Roosevelt was a Progressive.

So, what? How does that change anything?

Self-styled Progressives did indeed support every single mass-murdering regime of the 20th century, including Hitler’s Fascist Germany, pretty much until it broke with Stalin and the USSR..

Leo Smith
Reply to  Pat Frank
June 18, 2018 12:06 am

To be fair, Russia was facing a demographic disaster anyway.

It needed to be able to defend itself against mechanised nations. Or cease to exist as a nation and become a vassal state to the West. Lenin and Stalin brought about that change, but the price was horrendous.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Leo Smith
June 18, 2018 12:33 pm

The question, Leo, is whether the Lenin/Stalin approach was the only way to achieve modernization for Russia, or even the best way. I’d suggest no to both.

Over all, Russia lost about 60 million people to political murder over 1920-1950.

Reply to  Pat Frank
June 18, 2018 5:56 am

The modern day equivalent is “never let a serious crisis go to waste.”

June 17, 2018 7:03 pm

Posted last month – many of you probably think I am paranoid, seeing “reds under the bed”.

“Why is it that so many prominent environmental campaigners turn out to be such scumbags, sleazebags, hypocrites or frauds?”

Easy to understand:
The self-styled “Progressives”, the US Democrats, the Canadian Liberals and NDP, the Socialist and Green Parties worldwide are pawns of the extreme left and have been so since the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Here is some history:
“Surprisingly enough the second event that caused the environmental movement to veer to the left was the fall of the Berlin Wall. Suddenly the international peace movement had a lot less to do. Pro-Soviet groups in the West were discredited. Many of their members moved into the environmental movement bringing with them their eco-Marxism and pro-Sandinista sentiments.”
Source: “The Rise of Eco-Extremism”, by Dr. Patrick Moore, a co-founder of Greenpeace (1994).

Many of these imbeciles don’t even know it, but they are following a covert Marxist agenda intended to damage our economies, cloaked in phony green rhetoric.

Marxism made simple:
The Groucho Marxists are the leaders – they want power for its own sake at any cost, and typically are sociopaths or psychopaths. The great killers of recent history, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot. etc. were of this odious ilk – first they get power, then they implement their crazy schemes that do not work and too often kill everyone who opposes them.

The Harpo Marxists are the followers – the “sheeple” – these are people of less-than-average intelligence who are easily duped and follow the Groucho’s until it is too late, their rights are lost and their society destroyed. They are attracted to simplistic concepts that “feel good” but rarely “do good”.
George Carlin said: “You know how stupid the average person is, right? Well, half of them are stupider than that!”

One can easily identify many members of these two groups in the global warming debate – and none of them are ”climate skeptics”.

Need more evidence? Read the quotations at

Just a few examples:

“The goal now is a socialist, redistributionist society,
which is nature’s proper steward and society’s only hope.”
– David Brower,
founder of Friends of the Earth
“If we don’t overthrow capitalism, we don’t have a chance of
saving the world ecologically. I think it is possible to have
an ecologically sound society under socialism.
I don’t think it is possible under capitalism”
– Judi Bari,
principal organiser of Earth First!
“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the
industrialized civilizations collapse?
Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”
– Maurice Strong,
founder of the UN Environment Programme
“A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the
United States. De-development means bringing our
economic system into line with the realities of
ecology and the world resource situation.”
– Paul Ehrlich,
Professor of Population Studies

J Mac
June 17, 2018 7:39 pm

We have to deal with what’s real, in the ‘here and now’. Prominent progressive socialists in the USA have called for prosecution of ‘deniers’.

It isn’t paranoia, if they really are out to get you!

Reply to  J Mac
June 18, 2018 3:31 am

“Just because you are paranoid doesn’t mean they’re NOT out to get you!” 🙂


To be fooled by an obvious fraud such as global warming is clear evidence that the collective intellect of governments is indeed that of a fruit fly.

To knowingly acquiesce to such fraud is evidence that the collective ethics of governments are lower than those of a maggot.

In either case, it is evident that the role of governments should be minimized, not expanded. Governments are clearly not intellectually or ethically competent to provide guidance on complex matters of serious importance to humanity.

Similarly, our once-respected intellectual institutions have lost their credibility. The Royal Society, the National Academy of Sciences and many others have embraced and promoted CAGW mania.

As Lord Monckton indicated in his recent NY college speech, governments throughout history have embraced truly foolish ideas, with disastrous consequences.

“ The Versailles consensus of 1918 imposed reparations on the defeated Germany, so that the conference that ended the First World War (15 million dead) sowed the seeds of the Second. The eugenics consensus of the 1920s that led directly to the dismal rail-yards of Oswiecim and Treblinka (6 million dead). The appeasement consensus of the 1930s that provoked Hitler to start World War II (60 million dead). The Lysenko consensus of the 1940s that wrecked 20 successive harvests in the then Soviet Union (20 million dead). The ban-DDT consensus of the 1960s that led to a fatal resurgence of malaria worldwide (40 million children dead and counting, 1.25 million of them last year alone).”

The difference today is that we have the internet, a system of global communication that , in time, will perhaps mitigate the proliferation of popular delusions such as CAGW mania, and enable our society to make more rational decisions.

Best, Allan

Joel O’Bryan
June 17, 2018 7:03 pm

“imperialized countries of the Global South. “

WTF is that?

J Mac
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
June 17, 2018 7:41 pm

Venezuela? Nicaragua? Cuba??

Joel O’Bryan
June 17, 2018 7:20 pm

This climate twerp is just a piker compared to the Marxists in Berkeley, California, home of Paul Ehrlich.

The Berkeley City Council basically passed a resolution calling for a global euthansia and eugenics to “humanely control human population” because of their psychotic belief in climate change.
It doesn’t get anymore authoritarian Marxist and bat-shit crazy than that.

Democrats are not just dangerous, they are evil.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
June 17, 2018 7:23 pm

Ehrlich was my prof at Stanford, not Berkeley, but point well stated.

Reply to  Felix
June 17, 2018 7:43 pm

I think “home” meant California…

June 17, 2018 8:29 pm

Okaaaaaay! They want to engage in mass slaughter? Send them to the death chambers first. Stalin got rid of Lenin and did far more stupid and idiotic things than Lenin ever thought of, including executing 12 of the Russian Army’s most senior and most experienced officers, just as WWII in Europe was getting underway. This is not something new with people like Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot. I’m just waiting for word to come out of Venezuela that the slaughter is starting down there.

Awareness of these creatures is vital. The “elite” mentality? As we have seen historically, it backfires and eats its own. Yes, they are dangerous and they do everything possible to destroy anyone who has enough sense to question their insanity.

Fortunately, we have something that was unavailable back in them there Olden Days: the internet.

We must be aware of all the lies and deceit and heinous behaviors, not turn our heads away from them, because if we don’t stay on top of it, we go down in flames, just as happened before. It took 50++ years for Stalin to die of a cerebral hemorrhage. Krushchev took his place, got rid of Lysenko, etc. But without a real background in how to bring a country into real prosperity, it took the fall of communism under Gorbachev to do that and they are all still floundering. Merkel is doing much damage. Like the others who can’t let go of a bad system because they do not know any better, she is making a complete mess of Germany and Europe.

Keep your eyes and ears open and take NOTHING for granted.

Alan Tomalty
June 17, 2018 8:39 pm

I read a little bit of Camfield’s article on his web site. Here are my thoughts.

1) I have a degree in Economics. That and 50 cemts won’t get you a cup of coffee.
Be that as it may it gave me a good grounding in the supply and demand equations. Humans more or less act as if the supply and demand equations are true. Not all the time but enuf of the time.
2) The world has tried every conceivable economic system you can dream up and they have all failed at one time or another. The absolutely best system is an all knowing supreme benign dictator. Unfortunately those are in short supply. The 2nd best system is a capitalistic system with restraints on monopolies and the banking system. Monarchies only work if the monarch is benign. However when a benign monarch dies he is succeeded by offspring who are not so benign and then the trouble starts.
3) The world capitalistic countries have done a good job on restraining the monopolies ( not a perfect job but I digress) , however restraining the banking system has turned out much more difficult so far, but we cant stop trying or else we would have to throw out our system and replace it with what?
4) All other systems fail on either one of 2 grounds. The economics of the system break down; or the freedom of individuals is curtailed. The 2 prime examples are the former Soviet Union and present day China.

5) All socialistic systems eventually turn into either a Communistic dictatorship or a family dictatorship.
The reason is that ;100% socialism means ; that nobody owns the wheels of industry except the government. Without ownership of means of production the output cant be allocated sensibly. Also you can’t really have political parties and election campaigns because the party that is in power uses the government resources to rig the elections. No one else has any money to stop them. That is why every communist movement started out as a socialistic movement but it soon turned to Communist when the socialist party that took control of the government banned all other parties.

6) So I will make the statement that anybody who advocates against capitalism as David Camfield has on his website ; is in fact a Communist. All Communistic systems lead to violence, as history has shown , because there are no checks and balances.

7) Even the capitalistic system eventually dooms itself with regulation. Witness the European Union

8) Once a capitalistic system becomes too large and too bureaucratic it either strangles itself in red tape or breaks apart. The European Union is witnessing these 2 things as we speak.

9) The only reason that the US hasn’t strangled itself yet is that it is only 230 years old and it has a party the Republicans who get into power enuf times to cut just enuf red tape so the country can keep from strangling until the 2nd or 3rd election after that when they can again get back into power and cut red tape again. Now red tape itself isn evil but too much of it and we have trouble breathing. Witness the ongoing discussion about taxing our breathing (CO2 taxes).

10) So capitalism does indeed carry its own seeds of destruction but there is a lot less violence when people respect each others property and right to vote.

11) So long term what is in store for capitalism? It will sputter on (because there is nothing better) and those areas of the world that combine to form unions that are too big; as in the European Union will retract in size to keep from complete strangulation. I am fond of a saying that I came up with but I am sure is not original.

1) The quick way through revolution and violence
2) The slow way through a legal system that slowly strangles us all to death.

Such is the human condition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply to  Alan Tomalty
June 18, 2018 7:14 am

The only restraint needed on monopolies is to make it impossible for government to create them.

June 17, 2018 9:18 pm

Sooo, if we shut down the bread basket of the globe in the USA, what would happen?

Think about it…..

Reply to  ossqss
June 17, 2018 9:49 pm

Remember: the ‘green’ left want to see 90% of the planet’s population die off. So, from their point of view, shutting down food production is a feature, not a bug.

June 17, 2018 11:04 pm

Have any of these radical left people ever created any wealth or done any worthwhile work? No need to provide the answer.

Leo Smith
June 17, 2018 11:40 pm

The situation we’re in – a stable capitalist society where the ruling class rules unchallenged, with the working class highly fragmented, divided and depoliticized and a feeble radical left – calls for us to unite on the basis of politics that can guide our activity in the current period. That’s different from organizing around a specific political tradition like Trotskyism or anarcho-communism (or as part of a narrower current within a tradition). It’s also different from adopting a basis of unity that claims to have answers to questions that we just don’t face in this moment of history, such as precisely what kind of society beyond capitalism we’re aiming for or exactly how a transition beyond capitalism could be started.

And what is the first thing that a a stable capitalist society does to protect its position?

It infiltrates, takes over, and funds the radical movements that might form a basis for opposition to it.

The Green/New Left is run by the people they warned you about….

Thats the delicious irony, and a mark of their skill in child psychology.

That’s why none of their measures are effective – they are not designed to be. It’s only a question of virtue signaling and capturing the hearts and minds of the green-and-wet-behind-the-ears.

Ed Zuiderwijk
June 18, 2018 1:11 am

‘Imperialised peoples of the South’. Says it all. These guys live in their own version of the Game of Thrones.

June 18, 2018 2:00 am

These people, the 4. International, are the followers of Leon Trotzky. Their rhetoric is more rabid than that of other communists, as they have little political weight.

June 18, 2018 3:56 am

David Camfield’s article appeared here, in International Viewpoint.

So I got to wondering: Who are these lunatics? Are they affected by the full moon or what?

Seems they are infected with something much worse. Surprise!!! They are openly Marxist! Who knew?

Haven’t these Marxist lunatics killed enough people – probably about 200 million souls just in the 20th Century. Do we have to do this again?

“Those who don’t know history are condemned to repeat it.“
– George Santayana

Regards, Allan

International Viewpoint, the monthly English-language magazine of the Fourth International, is a window to radical alternatives world-wide, carrying reports, analysis and debates from all corners of the globe. Correspondents in over 50 countries report on popular struggles, and the debates that are shaping the left of tomorrow.

Our International

Ours is the Fourth International. The fourth, “Trotskyist”, because the other three disappeared – by political abdication, or organisational collapse.
So far so good. But in fact the Fourth International has a much broader historical, theoretical and practical foundation.
A direct continuity with the socialist left which existed before the first world war, and the democratic communist left which existed afterwards. If citing our historical references helps clarify who we are, we identify with Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Rosa Luxemburg, V I Lenin and Leon Trotsky. The many others who have enriched our analysis and theoretical work include Tchernichevsky, Plekhanov, Hilferding, Otto Bauer, Gramsci, Georg Lukacs, Pannekoek, Alexandra Kollontai, Che Guevara, and our leading comrade Ernest Mandel, who passed away in 1995.
Naturally, one can only build organisations which can fight for socialist revolution by rooting oneself in each national context, and drawing on the best traditions of all the currents of the local workers movement.
It also means participating in, and learning from, the main revolutionary experiences of this century: Castrism, Maoism, Sandinismo, revolutionary populism, liberation theology, and others.

Open, critical Marxism

The Fourth International is characterised by an open, critical approach to Marxist theory. As a result, we have absorbed and adapted to face the economic, social, political and cultural transformations which, over the last 20 years, have changed the face of the world.
[end of excerpt]

Thomas Gough
June 18, 2018 4:24 am

Warming? Cooling? Heads I win. Tails you loose

June 18, 2018 6:09 am

When a new idea comes along, it fractures closely held beloved old ideas.

HARMONY is a concept used cynically by the elite controllers of left-wing politics to box the mind into repetitive patterns of thought-slavery.

Gordon Jeffrey Giles
June 18, 2018 11:53 am

I wish these leftist idiots would make up their minds….Are the Oceans getting warmer because that is where all the heat that they can’t find is being trapped…. or as it states in this piece of quoted tripe are the seas getting cooler as the so called Ice melt off occurs. What’s it going to be dumbasses….

June 18, 2018 12:21 pm

Toronto would like to lay claim to being the centre of the universe and the world head office of eco – anarchists however having lived in both places I can say they can’t hold a candle to Vancouver BC .
Green peace launch site, $10 million waterfront homes to Suzuki , and a city administration so bent on killing business it has hired climate protection managers . Along with a regional government that has gradually eliminated businesses and brags about being the most litigious air quality bullies in North America . Sorry Toronto it’s not even close .
Toronto and Ontario can lay claim to absolutely screwing itself with the Liberal party legacy .

June 18, 2018 12:48 pm

Deep trouble in Toronto…

U.S. President Donald Trump last month said he might impose tariffs of up to 25 percent on foreign-built automobiles, which could cause major economic damage to Canada and a heavily integrated North American industry.

After Trump slapped tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum on May 31, government ministers promised to support the sectors, and Innovation Minister Navdeep Bains told Reuters the same kind of aid could be ready for the auto industry.

“We’re examining all options … our view is that if any such action is taken, we’re going to support our workers,” he said in an interview last week.

“The message I would convey to the auto sector workers is – we have your backs.”

Reply to  ResourceGuy
June 18, 2018 2:30 pm

Ross McKitrick, an economist at The University of Guelph estimates we’ve (Ontario) lost 70,000 jobs as a result of the implementation of the Green Energy Act, so what’s a few more?

The decision to shut down coal for no reason (our air quality was and remains superb), refurbish old nukes (that should have been decommissioned) and invest in intermittent wind/solar power (all with the required conventional back-up). Then being forced to sell all the excess “alternative” generated power to the spot market for a fraction. On top of all that we have cap and trade along with a carbon tax….fiscal fiasco madness.

I estimate the cost to the tax payer is over $100billion and growing at plus/minus $2billion per year….and there’s nothing we can do about it, other than increase revenues and decrease expenditures.

Juan Slayton
June 18, 2018 4:56 pm

The totalitarian Marxists have only changed the world. The point, however, is to improve it.

Caligula Jones
June 20, 2018 6:40 am

Yeah, speaking as a Torontonian…nah.

Yes, we do elect some wide-eyed lefties (to council, and sometimes Legislature), but generally, the Loud Left is just that. Our mayor is a squishy, middle of the road conservative. Our new Premier has scared the living bejeebers out of everyone to his left (not hard to do these days).

I mean, he just did this:

And I can’t wait for him to get rid of the Climate Change Directorate part of the Ministry of Environment and Climate Change. I mean, look at this swamp:

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