PhD “Data/Climate Scientist” Can’t Provide Data on Extreme Weather Events

From MasterResource

By Robert Bradley Jr. — May 1, 2024

“Back to Lindsey Gulden, the self-described Data/Climate Scientist. She would/could not provide a time series example to back up any part of her claim of ‘global climate to go off the rails’ … ‘more extreme events’. I asked her repeatedly for data, and she could only sign-off with ‘I made no such claim‘.”

On LinkedIn, Saul Humphrey stated: 2023 was the hottest year on record and 2024 is threatening to be hotter still.  Humphrey then quotes from an article in The Independent, “Do the People Care About the Climate Crisis? These Voters Say Yes – but Polls Do Not” (April 19, 2024):

In the US,  wildfires destroyed more than 1.7 million acres in the first three months of 2024, already half of last year’s total, and forecasters expect an unprecedented number of Atlantic hurricanes.

Around 87 per cent of Americans say they have experienced at least one extreme weather event in the past five years — whether that’s drought, extreme heat, severe storms, wildfires or flooding. Three-quarters of adults believe the science that climate crisis is at least partly to blame, and the same percentage want the federal government to do something about it.

But when it comes to this year’s presidential election, the issue trails inflation, healthcare, immigration and jobs in the list of voter priorities.”

Humphrey concludes: “What does it take make the climate crisis the priority? Do we need to witness Armageddon before we do what is necessary?”

Note the irony of a person telling the rest of us: You are wrong and I am right on climate alarmism. And the audacity to use government coercion and taxpayer financing to impose the solution on the unschooled masses.

I commented on LinkedIn: “False causality. That is the real problem. Exaggeration backfires.”

Some 70 replies followed from a variety of folks, including some plenty smart-and-informed “skeptics” of climate alarm/forced energy transformation. But one comment stood out. Lindsey Gulden, self-described Data Scientist/Climate Scientist, stated:

Saul Humphrey: you should perhaps take it as a badge of honor that your posts seem to attract frequent input from Atlas Network folks who are paid to promote climate disinformation.

I answered: “False causality. Beliefs and the intellectual/moral high ground explain my passion and those that I know in the movement. Many of us take less pay to be able to challenge the false narrative of the Climate Industrial Complex. Consumers matter. Taxpayers matter. Fiscal sanity in the public sector matters. Freedom among consenting adults matter….”

Gulden: “Coming from a long line of fiscal conservatives, I agree with all of these statements: “Consumers matter. Taxpayers matter. Fiscal sanity in the public sector matters. Freedom among consenting adults matter.” What is bizarre to me is that we seem to be using the exact same values to make diametrically opposite points. It is fiscally irresponsible for any government to continue to use taxpayer dollars to give substantial corporate welfare to an industry that is causing the global climate to go off the rails and, with it, the stability of global markets, political systems, food supplies, etc. It is all in the service of a small group of people whose bank accounts benefit massively from the status quo. I don’t question your sincerity of belief. But I’d suggest those of you taking lower pay ought to demand the same pay as the executives of the industry you are propping up.”

Bradley: “I disagree with your alarmism in the last part of your sentence: ‘that is causing the global climate to go off the rails and, with it, the stability of global markets, political systems, food supplies, etc.’ Is this statement justified by time series data or climate model projections? The whole point of market wealth is resiliency to extreme weather from any cause–and that is where the advantages of dense, reliable, affordable mass energies come into play.”

Gulden: “The most problematic component of climate change isn’t that the mean temperature goes up. It’s that there is much more variability and much less predictability. More extreme events (extreme freezes, extreme precipitation, extreme heat). Uncertainty is bad for markets. So if you care about healthy free markets, dismissing climate change out of hand is risky.”

Bradley: “Show me the time series data on that. A reduction in the diurnal cycle does not suggest dire results. Hurricanes are less in theory and data, right? Are you saying that nature is optimal and/or cooling would reduce extremes? In any case, any extremes need affordable, reliable, plentiful energies–not wind and solar and batteries. And politicians and government failure.”

Gulden: “data on increasing extreme events are plentiful and from reputable sources. Hurricane frequency and intensity are increasing. For information from a reliable source, see, for example, https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/extreme-weather/.

Your assertion that ‘it’s just a decrease in the diurnal cycle’ doesn’t really hold water as an argument for lack of harm, even with just a bit of consideration. Being able to cool down at night is essential for people trying to survive heat waves without A/C. Regarding ‘government failure and politicians’: Politicians can at least be voted out of office. Although I’d *like* to vote oil and gas industry executives’ self-interested manipulations of civil society out of our daily life, I can’t.

Renewables are more affordable than oil and gas. Battery storage makes them more reliable. All of the above leads me to the conclusion that Atlas Network should provide member groups with more accurate talking points…although I must admit I do not think ‘accuracy’ is their goal.”

Bradley: “The NASA link is not responsive. I asked for time series data over the decades of extreme weather events, not what is supposed to happen under (incomplete) theory or what is predicted to happen from speculative climate models. Take the frequency of hurricanes over the last century or so. What does it show (asking you as a climate scientist).”

Gulden: “and no, that isn’t my area of expertise—which is why I pointed you to reputable sources on the subject.”

As this point,

Mark Rohrbacher commented: “… both Lomborg and Alex Epstein (and various weather sites) have researched ‘increased weather extremes and found them to be unsupported by data. I live in a hurricane area and our area has had a historically low amount of serious hurricanes in the last 30 years.”

Gulden: “Alex Epstein, formerly of the Cato Institute, founder of the Center for Industrial Progress, who does not like to discuss his funding sources, right? Who has no training in research?”

Bradley: “You lost some credibility by going ad hominem on Alex Epstein, who is merely providing the official statistics on weather extremes from others, as is Lomborg. I follow Alex Epstein and know him personally. He has never worked for Cato. Please show us the graph and link on hurricanes, quantitatively, number and intensity, for the last century. This is your area as a climate scientist, right?”

Gulden: “my bad…it seem I err in his former employer. Perhaps it is another libertarian think tank. Regardless, I see no way that mentioning his employers, his relevant credentials or lack thereof, and his refusal to disclose funding sources—completely relevant when your topic of writing is climate change and fossil fuels—are ‘ad hominem’ attacks. But if you wish to frame it in that way, I cannot stop you.”

Bradley: “A person without a high school degree can be right and a PhD expert wrong. (‘Expert Failure’ is a fascinating subject covered in a book of this title by Roger Koppl, by the way.) Can you simply provide the time series data on hurricanes or other extreme events to support your general claim of increasing extreme events? Just stick to the arguments and data please.”

Gulden: “I made no such claim. You may judge me as you wish. I’m going to adjourn from this discussion. Good luck.”

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The entire thread should be read to see a variety of take-downs of the alarmist narrative. Kudos to Mark Rohrbacker, Matt Essex, Chris Matchette-Downes, Ian McCoy, Joseph Toomey, Richard Re, Les McMenzie, Lewis Ludwig, John Basilio, Richard Ericson, and many others. Their level of critical engagement of the alarmist narrative is impressive, indicating how the smart, critical middle is not buying what the Malthusian consensus is selling.

Back to Lindsey Gulden, the self-described Data Scientist/Climate Scientist. She would/could not provide a time series example to back up any part of her claim of ‘global climate to go off the rails’ … ‘more extreme events’. I asked her repeatedly for data, and she could only sign-off with ‘I made no such claim‘.” What an embarrassment to herself and her profession.

Appendix
Gulden’s lack of understanding about energy and economics basics is obvious from statements such as: “Renewables are more affordable than oil and gas” and “rooftop solar panels make good economic sense“.

Many other of her statements in the long thread are easily refutable, but I will stick to climate science. Note her silence on the benefits of CO2; the upside of moderate warming with a reduction of the diurnal cycle, the saturation effect of GHG forcing, all arguments against climate alarmism from a physical-science viewpoint.

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May 2, 2024 2:29 am

Gulden: “data on increasing extreme events are plentiful and from reputable sources. Hurricane frequency and intensity are increasing. For information from a reliable source, see, for example, https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/extreme-weather/.

If you followed the link, you find this explanation:

                  How do scientists determine if changes in extreme
                 weather events are linked to climate change?

Scientists use a combination of climate models (simulations) and land, air, sea, and space-based observations to research how extreme weather events change over time. First, scientists examine historical records to determine the frequency and intensity of past events. Many of these long-term records date back to the 1950s, though some start in the 1800s. Then scientists use climate models to see if the number or strength of these events is changing, or will change, due to increasing greenhouse gases when compared to what has happened historically.
______________________________________________________

Models models but no data.

strativarius
May 2, 2024 2:31 am

“She would/could not provide a time series example to back up any part of her claim of ‘global climate to go off the rails’ … ‘more extreme events’. I asked her repeatedly for data, and she could only sign-off with ‘I made no such claim‘.”

PhD’s appear to be thrown around like confetti, now.

“folks”

That sets alarm bells ringing. Why? In the UK….

“What’s more, the adoption of the peculiarly down-home Little House on the Prairie vocabulary of American activists – eg, ‘trans folk’ – by their British cousins is very amusing. You can imagine people from the blue bayou of Chalfont St Giles saying things like, ‘Mercy mercy me, I do declare that y’all are just plain hatin’ on those lil’ ole trans folks’, as if they were Penelope Pitstop. I exaggerate, but only slightly.”
https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/04/28/meet-the-mean-boys-of-trans-activism/

Funnily enough, a certain Austrian/German socialist type character had a big thing about folks – the Volksgemeinschaft. All the pieces are falling into place with these people.

Richard Greene
May 2, 2024 2:39 am

Robert Bradley has had many good articles where he challenges Climate Howlers online and gets them to “debate” (to th extent that leftists will debate anything they believe in).

His articles are my favorite choice for getting the latest Climate Howler claptrap. He should get hazardous duty pay.

The Climate Howlers thrown down one false claim after another to support their narrative.

They will even contradict their government’s data if necessary to scaremonger. These people who love the deep state climate scientists, but will misinterpret or truncate their data to make a point.

The obvious conclusion is that the majority are Climate Howlers, and they can throw down climate disinformation (and character attacks) much faster than the minority Climate Realists can refute them/

Rod Evans
May 2, 2024 3:23 am

Robert, you have clearly forgotten the basic rules employed by Climate Alarmists.
Their fundamental position is: Never allow reality to get in the way of belief.
Your request for a time series of increasing climate catastrophes from your alarmist friend would have been impossible for her to provide, because it might be real and thus outside her paradigm.

rtj1211
May 2, 2024 3:54 am

‘Truth is the first casualty of war’….

And the climate hobgoblin is certainly a war….

May 2, 2024 4:00 am

“Around 87 per cent of Americans say they have experienced at least one extreme weather event in the past five years…”

Sheesh- it’s called reality. Get used to it. Probably not as bad as the day I was in a metal fishing boat in the middle of the Okefenokee Swamp- and a lightning storm started. Of course that was back in ’74- long before the “climate emergency” started. 🙂

May 2, 2024 4:04 am

“In the US,  wildfires destroyed more than 1.7 million acres in the first three months of 2024….”

Those fires, regardless of how or why they occurred- don’t destroy the acres. They may damage a forest- the forest will recover. Unfortunately, some of the fires will also damage/destroy homes and other structures- but that author ought to be careful of his wording.

May 2, 2024 4:13 am

Excellent battle, Mr. Bradley. Well done. I wish there were a few thousand people like you here in Wokeachusetts.

Paul Burgess
May 2, 2024 4:17 am

This is mt take on this
https://youtu.be/T-2KNIxRDrU

May 2, 2024 4:22 am

From the article: “and forecasters expect an unprecedented number of Atlantic hurricanes.”

Forecasters *always* expect an unprecedented number of Atlantic hurricanes. That’s what Climate Alarmist do: They go to extremes every time.

During the Major Hurricane drought from 2006 to 2017, the Forecasters forecast unprecendented numbers of Atlantic hurricanes every one of those years.

Forecasting unprecedented weather is what Climate Alarmists do. It’s the reason they live and breath. Unfortunately, their climate alarmist zeal does not improve their forecasts.

It’s all about scaring the Little People.

May 2, 2024 4:34 am

From the article: “Around 87 per cent of Americans say they have experienced at least one extreme weather event in the past five years — whether that’s drought, extreme heat, severe storms, wildfires or flooding.”

And? So? Extreme weather happens all the time. It happened before CO2 was an intellectual issue. There’s no evidence CO2 is connected to making extreme weather more extreme. None.

From the article: “Three-quarters of adults believe the science that climate crisis is at least partly to blame,”

What science? There is no science establishing that CO2 is causing a climate crisis. If some people believe there is, then they are mistaken and have been given the wrong impression by others.

“and the same percentage want the federal government to do something about it.”

Like what? As if the government could do something about it. Talk about hubris!

From the article: “But when it comes to this year’s presidential election, the issue trails inflation, healthcare, immigration and jobs in the list of voter priorities.”

Saying climate change fear trails those other categories is putting it mildly. Climate change is at the bottom of the list, so it trails every other issue. Not as many people believe in human-caused climate change as you suggest.

May 2, 2024 4:48 am

From the article: “Gulden’s lack of understanding about energy and economics basics is obvious from statements such as: “Renewables are more affordable than oil and gas” and “rooftop solar panels make good economic sense“.Many other of her statements in the long thread are easily refutable, but I will stick to climate science.”

You should send Lindsey Guiden a copy of “Climate, the Movie”. It will show her that there is no unprecedented weather happening on Earth. The extreme weather we experience is not more extreme than in the past, and in some cases, the weather is less extreme than in the past. Remind Lindsey that no major hurricanes (Cat 3, 4, or 5) came ashore in the United States from 2006 to 2017.

And no connection to CO2 and extreme weather is to be found anywhere, other than in the propaganda written by Climate Alarmists. And the Climate Alarmists don’t really show a connection, they just claim there is a connection and expect everyone else to believe them. No, I need some evidence/proof. Lindsey should require the same.

Walter Sobchak
May 2, 2024 5:47 am

“What an embarrassment to herself and her profession.”

Her profession? The oldest in the world.

Cue Joni Mitchell: Raised on Robbery

The Dark Lord
May 2, 2024 5:50 am

I’m sorry but the term “her profession” is really a stretch of the use of the word profession … these folks are the polar opposite of a professional …

May 2, 2024 6:14 am

“Data? We ain’t got no data! We don’t need no data! I don’t have to show you any stinking data!”

May 2, 2024 7:48 am

Never mud wrestle a pig. You just get muddy while the pig likes it.

Demanding facts from a climate believer is a form of mud wrestling.

kenji
May 2, 2024 8:55 am

I find it instructive that this apologist for Global Warming, cum EXTREME weather is fixated on fossil fuel executives and their pay. If that doesn’t tell you that this is a communist movement USING climate change as a vehicle … then nothing will. This is class warfare … this man demands a transfer of wealth to the granola-eaters! Gimme an oil co. exec. salary NOW! Sheesh. Go away commies.

Sparta Nova 4
May 2, 2024 10:21 am

Never engage in a battle of wits with the unarmed. They never know when they have lost.

Boff Doff
May 2, 2024 1:06 pm

Ironically it would seem Gulden herself is funded by Big Oil, or she would like to be, having worked for Exxon for 10 years and sued them following her dismissal….

Denis
May 2, 2024 1:09 pm

Gulden said “For information from a reliable source, see, for example, https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/extreme-weather/.” I checked that “reliable source” and found not a single data stream illustrating any of the increasing “extreme events” cited. Not a single one. There was a single number I found, the year 1950 from which date the NASA reference states that hot days have increased. Of course, they did not say since 1930. If they had, hot days have, by far, not increased at all.

gyan1
May 2, 2024 8:11 pm

oops posted to the wrong article.

Louis Hunt
May 3, 2024 3:33 am

“Renewables are more affordable than oil and gas. Battery storage makes them more reliable.”

What fantasy world does Gulden live in? Not in the real world, that’s for sure.

May 3, 2024 5:00 am

Gulden:  “The most problematic component of climate change isn’t that the mean temperature goes up. It’s that there is much more variability and much less predictability. More extreme events (extreme freezes, extreme precipitation, extreme heat). “

Bradley: “Can you simply provide the time series data on hurricanes or other extreme events to support your general claim of increasing extreme events? “

Gulden: “I made no such claim”

Hmmm….