“Climate restoration” is the “New Coke” of climate alarmism

By Thomas Lifson at American Thinker

The increase in the atmospheric trace gas of CO2 has so far failed to deliver the catastrophic consequences predicted by the alarmists like Al Gore.  The headlines about “the end of snow” are now an embarrassment after a winter of abundant frozen precipitation.  At least a  decade ago, the fraudsters relabeled their purported peril “climate change,” allowing any unusual weather to be blamed on mankind’s use of fossil fuels.

Now another rebranding is being proposed.  Michael Walsh noticed, at PJ Media:

The Left, in the form of the think thank RAND, has gone full Luddite:

Since the 1992 United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, society has organized efforts to limit the magnitude of climate change around the concept of stabilization – that is, accepting some climate change but holding it within acceptable bounds. This report offers an initial exploration of the concept of  climate restoration – that is, approaches that seek to return atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases to preindustrial levels within one to two generations. Using a simple integrated assessment model, the analysis examines climate restoration through the lens of risk management under conditions of deep uncertainty, exploring the technology, economic, and policy conditions under which it might be possible to achieve various climate restoration goals and the conditions under which society might be better off with (rather than without) a climate restoration goal. This report also explores near-term actions that might help manage the risks of climate restoration.

“Luddite” is a good term, for it connotes opposition to the Industrial Revolution, which was (and remains in its “Information Age” version) dependent on the combustion of carbon-based fuels for electrical generation and transportation.  The longing for some imagined paradise of living in harmony with nature is even more pervasive in modern history.

Of course, anyone even slightly familiar with the history of the Earth’s climate knows there is no one climate to be restored.  We have had ice ages that covered much of the land on which Americans now live in glaciers.  Is that the climate we wish to be restored?

Proponents claim they merely want to get rid of the “pollutants” – i.e., CO2, which is necessary for life and is used by plants to grow.  (Higher levels of atmospheric CO2 already are increasing crop yields.)  But buried in this phraseology is the hidden assumption that the atmosphere, not solar activity, controls climate.  This is a ridiculous assumption on its face, since the ultimate source of our energy – atmospheric and carbon-based deposits – is the Sun.

By the way, solar activity is crashing now.

“Climate restoration” is the “New Coke” of climate alarmism.

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I suggest we restore the MWP prevailing climate when European tree lines were much higher.

RoHa

So what we have to do is grab the tree line and hoick it up a bit?

“Climate restoration”??? Man, those folks are getting desperate …
w.

Tom Halla

Onward! Into the past.

rocketscientist

The Same as it never was….

nn

Well, the existence of time as a separate dimension is an assumption that is consistent with. The linearity and directionality of “time” is an assumption that is consistent with. The progression (i.e. monotonic change) of “time” and evolution of matter is an assumption that is consistent with. Our “scientific” (i.e. circumstantial) and mythical (i.e. historical) beliefs about origin (e.g. spontaneous conception, reproductive succession) are consistent with. We live our lives in the scientific logical domain (i.e. limited frame of reference), but there is nary a human that does not speculate to the edge of our solar system and beyond.

Alan Tomalty

nn Can you speak plain English for us morons please?

Bryan A

This report offers an initial exploration of the concept of climate restoration – that is, approaches that seek to return atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases to preindustrial levels within one to two generations.

Pre industrial levels…Wasn’t that 280 ppm?
Since 280ppm is insufficient to grow sufficient quantities of the needed food supply to feed the current 7.5bn populace, I guess their intention is to have >60% of the world population starve to death. Really UNcaring ANTIsocial people.

rocketscientist

We just need to return the population levels to the pre-industrial levels. The process will essentially drive the economic levels down backwards and the life expectancy will drop accordingly as well.
Heck we’ll all become Amish and drive around in horse carriages. Of course all those Thee’s and Thy’s would have to go.

280 ppm would be very risky for an interglacial, as the amount would drop way below that figure during the next ice age, possibly leading to mass CO2 starvation of plants.

WTFAlpaca

Obviously. This is New Age hippie spirituality dressed up as science.
They do not have the facts, just the irrational desire for…’simpler’ times.
Okay, given we’re a ‘stone age’ species and modern life can be a bit stressful, but still doesn’t excuse Luddism. Certainly doesn’t excuse lies.
Ironically for a group that likes to throw around the label of ‘Climate Denier’, their major issue has always is that they are fundamentally conservative in nature. They’ve hitched their wagon onto the climate because fear of change for them goes as naturally with the environment as it does human civilization, but fundamentally I suspect it’s just an irrational fear of modern life, society & civilization.
Still, understanding their fears does not justify them. Certainly doesn’t justify bad science and doom-mongering. Even in a climate without human involvement at all, if we just…popped out of existence, the climate changes. WE understand this. We also understand on human time scales that change is largely benign, manageable, and a fact of life regardless. In the Alarmist’s fear of change however, they support policies and projects which could actually make things worse for ourselves.
We can’t return to ‘simpler times’. It’s not going to happen. Not without a lot of anarchy & violent scary change that will cause much suffering and ultimately for no gain.
Anyway, Alarmism is an interface of the greedy who know better, and the useful fools with honest intentions but flawed perspectives & understanding. We perhaps can’t realistically do much about the knowingly greedy, but we can hopefully enlighten the confused and scared. Perhaps.
Just got to keep stating the truth and hope Alarmism eventually & finally goes away, as the next pseudo-scientific fad comes into vogue.

WXcycles

Shouldn’t “Greenhouse Effect!” top that list?

markl

The lies, deceit, misinformation, and alarmism are catching up.

WXcycles

If it was real they would not have to keep renaming it to try and make it seem less laughable.
“Oh look, the Emporer has a new panties on!”

Latitude

Irritable climate syndrome…

Jan Christoffersen

Latitude,
Just perfect!!

markl

Good one!!

Climate Restoration As Policy

Hugs

Crap recycling as policy

Now they are attempting to replicate the good will Conservation used to own.
Somehow, “climate restoration” has neither the proper image or succinct message of benefit.
“Climate restoration” smacks of climate desperation.

Stephen Cheesman

The belief that the sun is ultimately responsible for all the long-term changes in climate seems to be as strong and unsupported as the idea that CO2 is. I can almost hear Leif Svalgaard sighing in resignation from across the Atlantic.

Alan Tomalty

Very few skeptics are definitely saying it is the sun. Most skeptics keep an open mind. However they all know it isnt CO2.

John harmsworth

I don’t know that it isn’t CO2. I only know that there is zero evidence that it is CO2. There appears to be a warming trend that extends back to at least 1800 A.D. and the so-called anthropogenic CO2 fingerprint does not raise its head above that line. No way! No how!
All efforts to establish the facts as otherwise are created out of whole cloth by activists masquerading as scientists or politicians trying to create phony issues to surf on for the sake of their ambitions. Creeps, charlatans and Socialist fools, sometimes combining multiples of those tragic character faults!
It is getting colder now, as many have predicted on the understanding a that we are in a cyclical peak that is probably similar to the Medieval Warm period and/or Roman Warm period and/or the Minoan Warm period. The imitation scientists who run around screaming that the sky is falling and the so-called science is settled have no idea whatsoever what caused these earlier warm episodes. They take the utterly dishonest approach that they didn’t happen when there is ample evidence that they did!

So, if the plan is to restore the climate to preindustrial levels, which preindustrial age should we restore the climate to ? How about when CO2 levels were as high as 6,000 ppm ? Or how about the last ice age ?

beng135

They forgot Gorebull warming.

Thomas Homer

Carbon Based Life Form yearns to throttle the Carbon Cycle of Life?

Dodgy Geezer

They’re a bit late. All the spare Climate Change cash has been use up on Carbon Trading…

Edwin

What amazes me is that many using their smart phone, their tablet, their laptop, etc don’t understand how such technology came about in the first place or why. As some scream to save the planet from the evils of carbon, as they troll blogs, they really don’t have a clue how much energy is required to produce and run the systems they are using. Some are of course convinced it can all be done by wind and solar though certainly no nuclear or hydro which they believe are both obviously extremely evil.

Climate Restoration is the beneign sounding goal to justify Geoengineering a not-so-beneign sounding word that requires much money.

Retired_Engineer_Jim

The folks I worked with at RAND are hardly leftists. Need to rethink that part of the story. Next you’ll tell us that the Aerospace Corporation and MITRE are leftist?

The times they are a changing. Many companies that you think would lean right are now full of resource departments infested with Social Justice Warriors. Most likely since you have retired things have gone down the tubes but I would have no way of knowing if it is true of RAND. It is however, happening all across corporate America.

Curious George

Dinosaur restoration is the next step.

Bryan A

Now that would be a Jurassic Flop

How about the term “Climate Absolution”?
We could all buy “CO2 pardons, hot from Rome” – from Pope AlGore the First.
Chaucer saw through this scam – and so should we.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/02/01/pope-francis-apparently-doesnt-know-ipcc-climate-objective-contradicts-catholic-doctrine/#comment-1849580
The Canterbury Tales – The Pardoner’s Tale
‘Nay, nay,’ quod he, ‘than have I Cristes curs!
Lat be,’ quod he, ‘it shal nat be, so theech!
Thou woldest make me kisse thyn old breech,
And swere it were a relik of a seint,
Thogh it were with thy fundement depeint!
But by the croys which that seint Eleyne fond,
I wolde I hadde thy coillons in myn hond
In stede of relikes or of seintuarie;
Lat cutte hem of, I wol thee helpe hem carie;
Thay shul be shryned in an hogges tord.’

Surely we should all purchase “climate indulgences” from Pope AlGore to rescue us from “climate purgatory” and get us to “climate heaven”..

rocketscientist

“Carbon Offsets” are the current eco-indulgences, but only the correct “approved offsets” are legit. All other environmentalism is heresy, traife, haram …

How about “Climate Renovation”… Or “Climate Remodeling”… Or “Climate Spring Cleaning”… I got it! “Climate Spa Day.”

Latitude

climate makeover…….the sequel to this old climate

Jim Masterson

+100
Good one, Lat!
Jim

Mike McMillan

Climate refinancing, more likely.

Samuel C Cogar

I suggest ………. “AGW Flagellants”.

Bill Parsons

“…Flatulents”

I am always interested in knowing what is the perfect decade we need to aim for that was free of mans influence and that we need to restore.
Surely not many ‘pre industrial’ decades as there were very many cold periods and I doubt if enough food could be grown in these cold conditions for our approaching 9 billion population. That is without even examining where we would get the energy from.
so, what is the ‘optimum’ decade?
tonyb

So many potential HGTV program ideas I don’t know where to start.

gbaikie

It’s an effort to make Climate, great again.

DHR

“…approaches that seek to return atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases to preindustrial levels within one to two generations.”
I believe we are well on our way. The primary greenhouse gas is water vapor and when it’s cold, there is less of it in the atmosphere. So when the globe cools… Victory!

Neo

Paul Atreides: This is part of the weirding way that we will teach you. Some thoughts have a certain sound, that being the equivalent to a form. Through sound and motion, you will be able to paralyze nerves, shatter bones, set fires, suffocate an enemy or burst his organs. We will kill until no Harkonnen breathes Arrakeen air.
I guess that’s one way to improve the atmosphere.

J Mac

Let’s work on restoring logic, reason, and the rule of law first.
Increasing atmospheric CO2 from 0.03% to 0.05% is not a threat to anything.
Conversely, the planetary flora flourishes with higher atmospheric CO2 content!
Earth is restoring a more abundant biosphere… Win – Win!

Y. Knott

Nobody in power wants to do that!
The primary motivations toward power are first, POWER – then, RICHES. The RICHES can only be accumulated through SCAMS, which can only go unpunished through ABUSE of POWER; therefore, every 1%er seeks to perpetuate the game, so his followers leave the table in their turn with enough skeletons in their closet that they don’t dare come after HIS riches, lest theirs be endangered.

RicDre

” The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know what no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me”
George Orwell, 1984

eyesonu

It’s Whack-a-Mole time again!
Version 349,412,309 and counting.

Tom in Florida

I vote for a climate that is warm and dry in the fall, cool and dry in the winter, warm and rainy in the spring and hot, humid and wet in the summer.

Latitude

………LOL

Sara

Climate restoration, huh?
Okay, well, it would help a lot if the larger percentage of them that follow this line of “thought” (and I use that word loosely) took the time to stop breathing for about 15 minutes. That rather large volume of CO2 produced by such a large population group could, if rescinded by cessation of respiration for 15 minutes, clear the air and restore an O2 balance…. or something like that.
I also suggest that they be persuaded to spend a good deal of time in the company of professional listeners. Throwing all those electronic doodads into a bin for a month or more would likewise help.

Edwin

Sara, maybe I missed it but I am surprised that the CAGW crowd hasn’t gone on about the amount of CO2 produced by 7+ billion people. They have gone on about domestic ungulates and the methane they produce even though at one point in earth’s history wild ungulates probably far out number all the domestic ones that exist today.

Sara

That’s exactly what I was addressing, Edwin. If they just stop breathing – all of them – for 15 minutes twice a day, the carbon load in the atmosphere, an invisible gas which terrifies them beyond any reasoning, will be reduced to a mere whisper.
I do not think that 15 minutes of not breathing, done twice a day, is too much to ask of them if they truly want to make a sacrifice that will benefit the planet.

fxk

Just think of all those greenies jogging and exercising, raising heart rate and increased breathing rate.
Oh, the extra CO2!

JB

Now we know who the real climate change deniers are.

Joe Civis

hmmm… Climate Reformation perhaps … “climate science” is a religion isn’t it?
Cheers!
Joe

Craig

I so look forward to plague, small pox, mass starvation, cannabalism (why not?), typhus and cholera becoming a regular part of my life thanks to climate restoration.

joelobryan

You forgot dysentery and salmonella.
Such fun was life pre-industrial.

We should all purchase “climate indulgences” from Pope AlGore to rescue us from “climate purgatory” and get us to “climate heaven”.

GoatGuy

The trick, of course, whether you believe in the snakeoil or not, is to find a way to get onto the capitalization gravy train yourself. There are tens? hundreds?-of-thousands of both direct researchers and indirect so-called “policy makers” who are on the gravy train in one form or another. From climate amelioration officers filling (not working) phony baloney positions in companies who desperately need to SOUND like they’re on the Lıberal Rightside of thinking, to gazillions of wannabe soft-science undergraduates, to just-as-many just-as-soft science Masters degree and PhD candidates … to endless focus groups, think tanks, lobbyists, lıberal leaning organizations … the gravy train is LONG. Long, and while crowded, still always in need of fuel.
“Climate restoration” is the newest self-styled eco-warrior “we can fight!” call to arms. Save a tree, eat a beaver. You know. Do stuff.
Do stuff to get tens of thousands – perhaps hundreds of thousands – of young impressionable minds and their stretch-funded parents to cough up the tuition to have them get soft-as-silk pseudoscience degrees. Or pseudo intellectual disease. The same.
I am admittedly in a sour mood. Sour that mankind is such a fûqueing delusional self-pitying creature. Sour that all excuses for a few of our population insist on having moral authority to domineer the rest of us. Go separate your fûqueing garbage! Turn off your lights! Buy a Prius! How dare you own a truck? Use biodiesel! Don’t eat non-organic anything, or feed the school kids peanut butter sandwiches!
GoatGuy

knr

given they cannot even agree to when the industrial period started and given they no measurement of these value worth a dam from virtual any date the pick, this is going to be quite a trick.

Russ R.

The Midwest got into the pilot program for “climate restoration”. Someone restored our climate back to the 1970’s. Six weeks of 20+ degrees below our average highs, with some daily highs not even reaching the average low.
I am not a fan of this restoration. And don’t even get me started on platform shoes, disco, and Jimmy Carter’s economic policies! Bring back the good NEW days.

Sara

You left out the hair style, Russ. The hair was to the max!

Doug

I want out of the pilot program! Warm up for cripes sake.

Martin457

They need to work on “real” problems that “can” be solved with truckloads of money.

Steven (now lives in Florida) Hill

Enjoying a global warming day down here in Florida after freezing my butt off this winter in Kentucky. Where is Al Gore these days?, on an island that was supposed to be under water by now? LOL

GoatGuy

Another commonly heard quip comes to mind The road to Hêll is paved with Good Intentions
Couple that with The master of Good is Best and
Never underestimate the gullibility of a Religious Man and you have quite a thing.
It explains a lot.
GoatGuy

So, “climate” seems to mean CO2, as far as I can tell. NOTHING else defines climate, apparently.
Why not just cut to the chase, then? — “CO2 Restoration Because Nothing Else Matters” (CORBNEM, for short)
Then we can have CORBNEM activistis, CORBNEM deniers. We can shorten the name of the IPCC to IPC. The possibilities are many. What a refreshing facelift for the industry !

David Dibbell

Hmmm. The U.S. is experiencing climate reversion already as winter lingers with a lot of snow and ice. This climate-restoration-to-preindustrial-times thing will surely not be popular, as few seem to be cheering our preview of it.

JohninRedding

When I first heard that the climate alarmists did not factor in the energy from the sun in their models, I was dump founded. As the article stated that is the single greatest factor and to think it is consistent over time is naive. These people are not scientists but political operatives.

BillP

Surely the Holocene Climate Optimum is the obvious climate to restore.
But how are we going to cause that much warming?

Andrew Cooke

Climate Restoration????
To What???
I wasn’t aware there was a climate baseline. Where should the baseline be set back to?
Oh man, this is stupid. The stupid is starting to get to me. The stupid is painful. Why do people constantly insist on being so stupid, gullible and easily brainwashed.

Michael of Oz

Engage Climate Stabilizers number one! prepare for ‘Climate Restoration’.
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/62/628b747f8ccdfb757062f36a27eedecfc2295f515c0586e05fbfb0620c0571a2.jpg

Excellent analogy. I would presume that the climate stabilizers operate along the lines of the anti-inertia force compensator and the artificial gravity system.

Gunga Din

More likely a bunch squirrel-baits spinning their wheels.

D. J. Hawkins

Not to forget the Heisenberg compensators.

joelobryan

Too bad Sir Patrick is a looney Leftist himself. The Climate Borg assimilated him,… or was it that little gill sticking out of his neck that did it? Or maybe that silly virtual game Ryker brought onboard?
Either way, Sir Patrick is a lost cause. Gave up his brains he did to keep getting Hollywood scripts.

hunter

So now they actually believe (or claim to believe) that lowering CO2 will somehow change the weather patterns we are living with.
So with any deterioration in weather, crop yields, coastal erosion, etc. we can go after the ass clowns who are even now blaming American oil companies.

Sara

And in the next chapter of “Call to Climate Arms”, we will find suggestions – nay, instructions! from the Pope of Climatewarmingoogling Algorebull Himself, calling for – wait for it! – the Climate Crusades!!!!
Arm thyselves, Good People of the Climate Crusades! Prepare ye the War of The Warm!! Prepare ye the War of The Warm!
Sounds like a musical to me. I saw one like that in the 1970s in Philadelphia. “Godspell”, it was.
This one will be “Gorespiel”.

Bruce Cobb

Climealot?

Gary

Warmalot.

paqyfelyc

Zeilate?
No, I’ll stick to warmunists

Blunderbunny

These people are seriously trying to kill us. All carbon based life: plants; animals; us and even sad to say it them depend on it. Honestly, it’s like some sort of suicide cult. How did we end up with so many supposedly well educated idiots wandering around?

jlurtz

They were educated in the “propaganda schools”. They were taught to memorize. Problem solving was 80% part of math. They [deep state globalists] removed problem solving from math.
Well, here we are! Lead by the “memorize-rs”, by definition “the PAST”. Yes, lead to the future by the past..
PERFECT

Great. Restore the climate to the 1650s.
That made the USA uninhabitable.

John in Oz

These people think Camelot is based in the future
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h7E5rtnFH4&w=1280&h=720%5D

Gunga Din

“Climate Restoration”.
I’m surprised they’ve never used “Climate Deformation”.

Kristi Silber

“But buried in this phraseology is the hidden assumption that the atmosphere, not solar activity, controls climate. ”
Gee, I could have sworn the atmosphere had something to do with it. You learn something new every day!

Alan Tomalty

You are right Kristi the atmosphere does control the climate. The sun is the heat source. However CO2 only acts as a carrier of life. It needs to recycle everywhere so that the plants can get it or we all die. The atmosphere needs more CO2 NOT less. There has been NO evidence of CO2 causing any warming. And even if it did the warming seems to be so minimal as to be laughable. I got the temperature records for the last 146 years for the city of Ottawa Canada daily lows and daily highs. I put the data into a spreadsheet and graphed the data 7 years at a time. i compared the 7 year periods throughout the whole 146 history and found NO warming. So if global warming was or is supposed to be happening but it is not happening in Ottawa Canada why do I care? I also looked at the temperature records for Augusta Georgia since 1935 when the Masters golf tournament started. There is no warming in those records. 10 of the 13 stations in the Antarctica have seen no warming for their 60 year history of temperature records. The other 3 stations are in the West Antarctica peninsula which is overtop a volcanic ridge and it melts from underneath just like Greenland does and has been like that for millions of years. Dr Willie Soon compiled temperature data from all the rural areas in the world. There was no warming. CO2 is a well mixed gas everywhere in the lower troposphere. Physics says that if it causes warming it should cause warming everywhere especially in a long term trend. if 146 years isnt long enuf for you how long do we have to wait for global warming? I have been waiting for it for 40 years and havent seen it yet. I grew up in the days when facts mattered. Things seem to be different nowadays. We need more CO2 NOT less.

Jean Paul Zodeaux

Well Lord only knows that our climate is a very big part of the worlds cultural heritage and it is high time someone began the painstaking process of restoration. Like the Sistine Chapel frescoes, there are cracks and fissures in the plaster of our climate and it just doesn’t look good hanging on a wall in a museum any longer. It is way past time for climate restoration.