From the “you can’t make this stuff up” department, comes this pronouncement from the guy who popularized the gas-guzzling CO2 belching Hummer military vehicle for his own LA commutes. His self-awareness must be zero.
Former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Sunday he is going to sue big oil companies for “first-degree murder.”
During a live recording of a Politico podcast, Schwarzenegger said he was talking to several private law firms about taking on oil companies in court.
The Hollywood actor compared oil to the tobacco industry, and said both are “knowingly killing people all over the world.” Schwarzenegger said the tobacco industry had to pay millions of dollars in court for hiding the fact that tobacco had adverse side effects, and said he hopes oil companies will have to do the same.
“The oil companies knew from 1959 on, they did their own study that there would be global warming happening because of fossil fuels, and on top of it that it would be risky for people’s lives, that it would kill,” Schwarzenegger said Sunday.
Schwarzenegger suggested oil companies have warning labels on its products that are “killing people,” just like tobacco products.
“I don’t think there’s any difference: If you walk into a room and you know you’re going to kill someone, it’s first-degree murder; I think it’s the same thing with the oil companies,” Schwarzenegger said.
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Last time I checked, only government can charge for criminal offenses.
Arnold has no standing to “sue” someone for first degree murder.
It would have to be wrongful death. But then I suppose he would have to name individuals who actually died from climate change.
He would also have to be the dead man’s heir or next of kin.
Bingo!
I was wondering where in this thread it would be recognized that a private person cannot sue another for committing a criminal offense. One can only sue for personal damages or injury resulting from such an act.
Even uttering such a comment places him in shamefully ignorant company with our POTUS. I’m no lawyer nor a politician attempting to control the law, yet I know these things.
Arnold may sue for damages caused by committing such an act, but he can only sue for damages on his personal behalf, and not for others. They may try a “class action” case, but those are going nowhere either.
If you deem our POTUS shamefully ignorant may I respectfully request that you present a better way to have brought North Korea to the negotiating table than he did.
And, let us not forget that the last three (apparently less shamefully ignorant) POTUS’s were quite content to kick that rather explosive can down the road.
Of course it’s not yet over. But nothing can finish till its at least been started. And, started, it has been.
Tom, Dennis Rodman is buddy buddy with the leader of North Korea. Doesn’t take intelligence to talk to people. There isn’t much difference between a NBA star and a TV reality star. Also note that for the past 50+ years the leadership of North Korea has been seeking recognition. They’ve conned the POTUS on that.
Well, South Korea’s spokemans said at the White House that Kim Jung-un “was committed to denuclearization”. That means he is committed to laying down his nuclear weapons, if we are to believe him.
That’s a very significant statement (again, if he is serious) and is just what we are seeking from Kim Jung-un, and Kim also said he would not object to the United States and South Korea continuing their military exercises (North Korea *always* objected to our military exercises in the past).
So Kim looks like he is ready to make a deal for one reason or another. It could be a ploy to meet with Trump, but it is still unknown whether Trump has been conned by Kim Jung-un.
But if Kim is not sincere and will not agree to denuclearize then we are right back in the same situation we were before: just a short time from a very destructive war if Kim pushes any farther than he has gone to date.
Trump is not going to allow Kim Jung-un to directly threaten the United States and its allies with nuclear weapons. If Kim goes that route, at some point Trump is going to eliminate him as a problem.
Let’s hope that Kim Jung-un has seen the light and believes that Trump will take him out without a deal. Kim can make a very good deal for himself and North Korea if he plays his cards right.
No agreement means hundreds of thousands of dead. That’s what’s at stake.
We got a miracle with Trump’s election. Maybe we can get another miracle with North Korea.
Although I must say I’m skeptical about Kim’s motives, but I don’t see how he benefits by meeting and then not agreeing. It will make his situation worse and will kill him eventually.
” Trump is not going to allow Kim Jung-un to directly threaten the United States and its allies with nuclear weapons. ”
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Wow, so it’s OK if Putin threatens the US, but not Kim?
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” If Kim goes that route, at some point Trump is going to eliminate him as a problem.”
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So, tell me TA, why isn’t Trump going to eliminate Putin?
He could claim to be brain dead, the evidence is overwhelming!
“So, tell me TA, why isn’t Trump going to eliminate Putin?”
Trump probably thinks Putin is a more rational player who values self-preservation. Although Putin is starting to look a lot like the homocidal maniac Kim Jung-un now. Kim poisons people who annoy him and it looks like Putin does, too.
I think Trump would eliminate Putin if he felt Putin was a direct threat. But just because we have two nuclear powers that are threatening us, Russia and China, doesn’t mean we should allow another state, one with a mad dictator at the helm, to threaten us, too.
We did not stop Russia and China from becoming a big nuclear threat to us, but we can stop North Korea from getting there. The U.S. can eliminate the Kim regime without it ending up being World War III. That’s all up to Russia and China, and I think they will stay out of it because I don’t think either one of them is going to sacrifice their nations on behalf of North Korea.
From some of the stuff I’ve read, if we don’t take out Kim, China may decide that they need to.
As it is, they would rather we do it, so that they can sit back and take the high moral ground.
This is the guy Republicans were falling all over themselves, going as far as to wonder if it was time to get rid of that antiquated law preventing immigrants from becoming president!
Don’t forget that he married a liberal fanatic. She certainly converted him.
This from the man who commuted daily by private jet between Sacramento and LA. http://articles.latimes.com/2008/mar/07/local/me-arnold7
I used to work for big oil. I still have nightmares of the blood, the guts, the wailing and screaming….and that was just in the coffee room!
Need to stop watching Arnold Schwarzenegger movies in the coffee room.
An actor speaking without the benefit of a script is seldom worth listening to.
What is the US term for a total, complete and utter moron?
Hun
From now on it will be “Arnold”.
An ‘Arnold’. In some cases of extreme moronicity (new word?) It could be a ‘Megarnold’.
Schwarzenegger may actually have acheived ‘Gigarnold’.
“Moronicity” is an excellent word, and many of us conservatives have been using it for a long time in conversations about the Left…as in “can you believe the moronicity of those people?” A synonym could be “moronism”…
What is the US term for a total, complete and utter moron?
ONE term simply does NOT suffice. This level of stupid requires many, many words, … OR … no words.
Triple face palm, when even a double face palm no longer suffices
https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/53532651/triple-face-palm-hogan-heroes
MOROSOPH: n. A well educated fool.
On the other hand, how many lives does oil save? From fuel for ambulances to heating oil, to name but two. So would Schwarzenegger be happy to walk everywhere?
Should be able to, doesn’t he Walk on Water?
It’s not oil per se, but the fact that cheap, efficient energy has been the cornerstone of an economy that has saved hundreds of millions, maybe billions, by creating wealth. We would never have created the wealth that ha allowed us to have hospitals, schools, vaccines, antibiotics, clean, safe water and so on without cheap energy.,
Yes,as I said above – attempting to “blame” fossil fuels for deaths is pretty laughable when they are the very foundation of modern society. It’s like calling a doctor who has saved thousands of lives a “murderer” for the two he/she couldn’t save.
Arnold is simply demonstrating once again the First Principle of US Law: only sue those who have money. Don’t waste your time suing people who don’t have oodles of money, such as the gas station owners who actually sell oil-based products, go for the people with really big bank accounts, in this case the oil companies. Anyone who has attended a US law school will have had this drummed into them.
Roger he is also displaying another common trait: Ignorance and misinformation regarding the legal system.
He knows tobacco kills people but he still smokes cigars. He converted his Hummer to LNG maybe he thinks LNG isn’t a fossil fuel because he never asked what the abbreviation means? Thought provoking I think?
Arnold must be aware that removing fossil fuels from energy provisions will result in millions of lives lost. – Grounds for a suitable counter claim?
Guns and lawsuits are american obsessions and, of course, Arnold epitomises both.
+1
What do guns have to do with this? Or are you just trying to make points with our left wing socialist readers.
Believing that outlawing guns is a bad idea, makes one obsessed with them?
In my experience, the people who are obsessed with guns, are those who spend their time and energy trying to get them banned.
This would explain how he became Governor of Kalifornia. It was mutually assured dementia.
He should be investigated for unfairly using steroids to enhance his virtue signaling.
Or perhaps it really is a “toomah”.
These types of news stories need to be plastered everywhere because voters can see how insane these mooks are.
It’s bee shown not to always work. The voters are equally ignorant and misinformed. Orr current POTUS has amply demonstrated this. He’s made several ignorant blunders, but keeps on bloviating.
Methinks he should start by suing the folks who effectively terminated construction of new nuclear plants, and work his way back in time from there. Maybe he can sue all the way back to Rockefeller for making petroleum a more commercially viable alternative than whale oil…and keep going back to Dr. Abraham Gesner who pioneered the process. (sarc)
Celebrities out of the limelight seem to have a propensity for exhibiting delusional narcissism.
I think that for anyone to say that Fossil Fuels are evil ,death delivering products, ought to be brought up on charges of !st Degree Murder, with conspiracy charges along side. THEY are responsible for using these death causing chemicals, and are are just as guilty as someone taking a gun and using it against someone. They knew the gun was potentially deadly. Count all the air miles, gas miles, electrical bills, gas bills, movies production charges, gun fired, etc. add them up, and charge Arnold for his % of participation in the “killing” process. THEN, do what any Law enforcement person would do, and remove the offending weapon from the criminal. So, Arnold, no flying, no driving, no heat, no air conditioning, no ice cubes or refrigeration, clothes made by automation, on and on, and the same for your former housekeeper lover and her/your bambino..
The clown married a Kennedy; that’s when the brain rot commenced.
Hey AHHHHNOLD…STFU!
Well i’d like to see the body.
Who has been “murdered” exactly? It is pretty easy to point at tens of millions who are living and healthy because of fossil fuel companies but I don’t believe even Arnie can find a single person who has unequivocally died from Climate Change.
And as we all know, slightly warmer winters save lives.
Indeed. A comparison of the Little Ice Age mortality statistics with today’s ought to provide a good start to examining the relative benefits vs. detriments of “global warming” (assuming, of course, that fossil fuels have anything to do with it, which is unproven nonsense) and fossil fuel use in general.
“The oil companies knew from 1959 on, they did their own study that there would be global warming happening because of fossil fuels, and on top of it that it would be risky for people’s lives, that it would kill,” Schwarzenegger said Sunday.
Is there a source for this information or did he just confuse reality with a script he once read?
the bullet proof Kennedy has the brains of Teddy
What about all those moviegoers who blew their brains out after seeing a Schwarzenegger ?
Now where is the corpus dilicti, Arnold ? Where are the dead people from global warming?
Perfect example of a virtue signaling useful idiot. People are getting wise to, and tired of, the plethora of Hollywood and political elites with their hypocritical virtue signaling on any subject.
Schwarzenegger is threatening to sue big oil for a crime that is impossible to commit, withholding the truth about climate change, a crime he declares to be “first-degree murder.” The truth about climate change is still unknown, in spite of the misguided claims of alarmists that the science is settled. After more than 30 years of study, scientists have proven themselves unable to successfully predict long-term climate. A growing body of climate scientists worldwide now predicts that the global temperature over the next several decades will likely decline, in which case, current environmental policies would be diametrically opposite from the right policies. Arnold is living in a fantasy land.
Arnold Schwarzenegger never was the sharpest knife in the drawer…a bit of clueless dunce. Perhaps the steroids did permanent brain damage. I always thought he was sort of a B Grade actor as well, most of his movies not worth watching, but for a few. And a horrible Governor, really sinking California in a sea of further red ink by the time he exited office.
i was still in California when Arnold was governor. He tried hi first year, and the Democrats basically blocked whatever he tried to do. Then he apparently decided to be an Uncle Teddy clone politically. A total disappointment after we recalled Grey Davis.
+1
But hey it’s not Illinois.
Yet. Illinois has been an DNC protectorate for a few decades longer than California has.
In 50 years there will be a movement in the psychiatric profession to retroactively declare an entire class of people as psychotic. But how many will have responded to treatment by then? For the sake of future generations, hopefully many.