Arnold Schwarzenegger to sue big oil companies for “first-degree murder.”

From the “you can’t make this stuff up” department, comes this pronouncement from the guy who popularized the gas-guzzling CO2 belching Hummer military vehicle for his own LA commutes. His self-awareness must be zero.

Former California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Sunday he is going to sue big oil companies for “first-degree murder.”

During a live recording of a Politico podcast, Schwarzenegger said he was talking to several private law firms about taking on oil companies in court.

The Hollywood actor compared oil to the tobacco industry, and said both are “knowingly killing people all over the world.” Schwarzenegger said the tobacco industry had to pay millions of dollars in court for hiding the fact that tobacco had adverse side effects, and said he hopes oil companies will have to do the same.

Big Tobacco forcing Schwarzenegger to smoke.

“The oil companies knew from 1959 on, they did their own study that there would be global warming happening because of fossil fuels, and on top of it that it would be risky for people’s lives, that it would kill,” Schwarzenegger said Sunday.

Schwarzenegger suggested oil companies have warning labels on its products that are “killing people,” just like tobacco products.

Schwarzenegger being forced to drive a gas guzzling Hummer by “big oil”. Does this make him an accessory to first degree murder?

“I don’t think there’s any difference: If you walk into a room and you know you’re going to kill someone, it’s first-degree murder; I think it’s the same thing with the oil companies,” Schwarzenegger said.

Read more at Washington Examiner


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Michael Darby

How seriously do steroids affect the brain?

Hador NYC



wrote, “a real discussion on the facts.”
Now that is funny. An article about a Hollywood hypocrite blow-hard being a hypocrite, and you just want to stick to the facts? What facts? Arnold is just bloviating. Fact-free bloviating.
He’s a joke. His rant is a joke. No facts needed.



Still a fossil fuel.


Schwarzenegger has been involved in:
U.S. Supreme Court case, c.2006
UNDP/United Nations Development Programme
C20 organization based in Switzerland
Cap-and-trade, California
He is big on the United Nations.


Schwarzenegger correction:
Should be: R20 organization based in Switzerland.


Steroid fueled muscles go to waste with age. That no doubt affects the brain of insecure muscle junkies.


You hit the nail on the head. Please can we have a real discussion on the facts.

Bryan A

Worlds biggest hypocrite Complaining about the Tobacco industry and fossil fuel industry while still stuffing those nasty stogies in his mouth and driving a Hummer

Walter Sobchak

How did you photoshop Arnold’s head on to my body.

The Governator’s Hummer was powered by natural gas. Baby steps.

Hot under the collar

He’ll be back to feeling a tit if previous groping claims resurface. I’m sure the Guardian will support him though!


We know the lower half of the brain shrivels up with steroid use. The upper half must, also.

Mark Whitney

They tend to elect some real high voltage-guys on the left coast. /sarc
As for the Hummer, Arnie was going to have his converted to hydrogen by a friend of mine, but backed out of it.

Martin A

How seriously do steroids affect the brain?
In some cases, steroids can very seriously affect the brain.
In people with bipolar disorder, or a potential for BPD, it can provoke hypomanic or hypermanic episodes. Hypomania can result in the person making decisions with adverse consequences for themselves or those close to them.

Philip of Taos

What Brain?


Yeah, what is the saying about a fool and his money are easily separated?
Granted, I doubt he’ll Terminate his own money in this venture…


But…..he’ll be back.


He just won’t go away.


his new movie line:
“I’ll be an idiot”


While they are all trying to play up to their base…..their base is shrinking…and the rest of the sane world is so totally over it…
posting this again…..I’m in shock
Even Scientific American is mocking them…
Should We Chill Out about Global Warming?

Henry Galt

Yes, but the adverts – they look like they came out of a comic… wait, sorry..

G. Karst

If comments are not allowed at the SA blog… is it really a blog?

So I take it he has stopped using oil because it is so dangerous to the planet.

Arnold should be tried as an accessory to murder.


Especially during the years when he was playing the Governator role, he would fly from Santa Monica airport to Sacramento nearly every single working day so that he could be home at night to play the role of good father. It wasn’t a piston engined propeller plane…


Can we sue on behalf of funeral homes that have NOT had to bury the many more that have not frozen to death?

Javert Chip

Well, part of the time he was home at night to play the good father, he was also screwing his maid.

Walter Sobchak

She was his wife’s maid.


Yes that is the problem with his stupidity, unless he has stopped using oil he is complicit in any murder. The leftist lunatic media reporting this sort of rant won’t push him about that because it doesn’t fit the agenda or they aren’t smart enough to see the issue.


Black Plowman is a huge hunk of flaming ignorance.


What do ambulances, medical helicopters……. and so on run on saving millions of lives. Can’t see this one being take too seriously.

John Bell

Might be TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome)


I think that’s it.

Bill P.

“…from the guy who popularized the gas-guzzling CO2 belching Hummer military vehicle for his own LA commutes.”
Well, he’s really sorry, he won’t do it again, and neither will you.


At least it gets better mileage than his other vehicle.comment image


…and doesn’t tear up the road as badly…


Some people will do anything for publicity.


An ego is a terrible thing to waste.

Can you GET any more hypocritical and unaware, Arnold ?
THE PREDATOR is still one of my favorite movies, though. I wonder what the “carbon footprint” of that movie was. Someone should do a table on this — carbon footprints of motion pictures.


Ahnuld, the thinking man’s blockhead.


Was this before or after his latest film dumped MILLIONS of tons of CO2 into the air? Is he hoping time travel is real like in the Terminator, or what? Sue Arnie—he’s the one killing the planet.

Richard M

Most people get to movies in cars. Those cars add to the CO2. Since Arnie already knows this, he must be knowingly committing murder as well. Also takes energy to process a court case. By suing Arnie is murdering even more people.

Eustace Cranch

1. Defendants are innocent until proven guilty.
2. This is an inherently unprovable case.
Any judge who doesn’t immediately throw this suit out should be removed for incompetence.


Arnie fails to realize that he used their products for many years and still does NOW, thus he already has no standing.


This is also a case that cannot be brought by a private citizen.


This is so ridiculous that it’s hardly worth wasting logic on it – BUT – if you’re going to say that a murder was committed, then you have to show WHO, WHEN, and HOW that person was killed. Not some vague “a lot of people”, but a specific person, with a name, with a place.
And once you have that, you have to show HOW the person you blame was the “Proximate Cause” of that person’s death. I don’t think “oh my god it was 1/10 of one degree hotter than I thought it should have been last June 19th, and that’s why he died!!!” is gonna cut it.
oh by the way if this supposed death happened somewhere else in the world then you need to go to THOSE countries and play with their legal systems, US Courts probably do not have jurisdiction.


“This is also a case that cannot be brought by a private citizen.”
Exactly. Murder is a criminal charge. Arnie suing is a civil action.
He’s not a lawyer, but a term as governator should have taught him such basics. I take his stated action as a declaration of stupidity.

Bill P.

So he’s representing himself?

I read the original story.
He’s working with (Democrat) State Attorneys General. They’re the ones that will be suing.
At tax payer expense.


He’ll probably bring the case in the Ninth Circuit, so it will not be thrown out, and we the taxpayers will spend a fair amount of money on this foolishness.

All of California (and Oregon and Washington, two other looney tunes states) is in the 9th Circuit federal court of appeals. So if this money waste doesn’t get thrown out at the district level, it will go to SCOTUS. 9th is Most overturned Circuit in US: 80 % per the ABA. Only the DC based Federal appeals court is worse:84% (based in DC, mostly patent and trademark disputes, high reversal rate due to low number of cases, but with BIG impact).

michael hart

Back in Dante’s day, they only had seven circles.
That shows how much Arnold has contributed to the human race.

“Only the DC based Federal appeals court is worse:84% ”
What about the 6th and 11th?


9th has the highest number of cases overturned, but not the highest percentage. Rates are pretty close most years. Highest number probably due mostly to size, but SCOTUS doesn’t take cases randomly; 9th decides a lot of controversial issues and makes a lot of decisions just begging to be overturned.


Just goes to show that the people of California have a long record of electing whackos to governor. Moonbeam wasn’t the first.


I believe Moonbeam was the first. His first time around.


And, regrettably, won’t be the last.


We didn’t have much choice when Arnold was running. California politicians are an extraordinary kind of stupid. Just look at who we have in the Senate, House, and State legislature. It’s amusing that they attacked Trump’s mental fitness, when most of these politicians are just plain psychotic. (From the definition: Neurotic people make up fantasy worlds; Psychotic people live in them.)


I left off Governorship. But it is a target-rich environment when looking for wackos.

michael hart

(From the definition: Neurotic people make up fantasy worlds; Psychotic people live in them.)

And psychiatrists charge the rent.
That was before the vegetarian poodle-clippers arrived….
California here I come.


How cranky do vegetarian poodles get?

AGW is not Science

There was a time when I was sorry Ahnold couldn’t run for POTUS – you know, back when he was making nice speeches at the RNC. The second he started blathering about global warming/climate change, I was extraordinarily happy he couldn’t even “try it.”


“The oil companies knew from 1959 on, they did their own study that there would be global warming happening because of fossil fuels, and on top of it that it would be risky for people’s lives, that it would kill,” Schwarzenegger said Sunday.
The entertainment industry knew, prior to 1959, through marketing studies, that there would be audience reaction to their product that could be harmful or beneficial. That it could be risky to people’s lives to inundate them with depictions of violence to such an extent that it could be then considered a normal part of daily life, that doing so would end up getting some people killed.
“I don’t think there’s any difference: If you walk into a room and you know you’re going to kill someone, it’s first-degree murder; I think it’s the same thing with the entertainment companies and the driving actors” Schwarzenegger should have said.
Again, a form of projection associated with his (their) type of mental/emotional problems.


You can tell who the left are ling up for their next shakedown by who they start their campaign to demonize.


Elective abortion, huh. Perhaps environmentalism through regulatory arbitrage… over there, or through mass obfuscation of local effects. Neither human rights nor conservation, respectively. Certainly only a semblance of science practiced at the twilight fringe (“penumbra”).


Elective a-bortion, huh. Perhaps environmentalism through regulatory arbitrage… over there, or through mass obfuscation of local effects. Neither human rights nor conservation, respectively. Certainly only a semblance of science practiced at the twilight fringe (“penumbra”).

Spiritus Mundi

How many woman claimed he raped them again……


“Schwarzenegger suggested oil companies have warning labels on its products that are “killing people,” just like tobacco products.”
Fossil fuels are also saving many peoples lives .

AGW is not Science

LMAO. First, the ridiculous notion that fossil fuels are “killing people” is like saying a doctor who has saved thousands of lives, but lost a couple “on the table,” is a “murderer.” Second, hypocritical much?! The defense’s Exhibit A (should this ever make trial, which should NEVER happen, but then again there’s California) should be Ahnold smoking one of his big cigars at the wheel of his Hummer. Somebody’s got to have that shot.

John in Oz

Whenever I have had an operation, the surgeon always tells me of the risks, including death, that could occur when one is under a general anaesthetic.
The choice is mine as to whether to go ahead or not.
Similarly with driving. Can we sue the auto industry for selling a product that is known to cause injury and death?
The fool that calls Arnie an idiot is no drongo.


Ha ha ha, the dude got his millions working in an industry that uses a lot of energy sources in large amounts. Recall the heavy use of explosives and multiple car chases in some of his movies and the secondary cottage of support behind the movie making.
He smoked one too many cigars…….

Dr. Bob

Arnold was at one point reasonable. He called the legislators in Sacramento “Girly Boys”, which was in fact the most accurate description that could be used. But too much time in that cesspool rotted his brain and he became one of them.
The real sad part was that his failed terms in office paved the way for an even greater “Girly Boy”, Governor Moonbeam. Too much can be said about his follies, so that will wait for another post.
I left CA in 1999 for a number of reasons, and the politics there was definitely one of them.


I expect Ahnold will be calling for an end to violent films and video games that endorse MURDER, violence, mayhem, and mass shootings. The industry KNOWS that multiple psychological studies demonstrate a connection between violent films and games and mass murderers. Ahnold should be charged and jailed as an accessory to murder … mass murder.

Malcolm Carter

From here we get the auto makers guilty of mass murder for knowingly selling vehicles that cause thousands of deaths per year. How about those who banned DDT resulting in millions of deaths from malaria. Electric companies that knowingly run hazardous and deadly power lines down our streets. Candy companies and fast food franchises that knowingly peddle death. Soon the only ones employed will be the lawyers.

According to this, he will be suing himself as well as all the rest of us.comment image

This is a great point. It doesn’t only apply to Big Oil. Whenever “Greedy Corporations” are targeted with hate, it should be pointed out that the corporations are publicly owned. The beneficiaries of this “greed” is the American public.

And just think where all the unions’ pension funds, including those of government employees, invest their money? So the leftist of the Lefties are bankrupting the country by getting richer and richer off the oil companies! Andy they scream about AGW?

Tom Judd

From the link: ‘Schwarzenegger said he’s still working on a timeline for filing, but the news comes as he prepares to help host a major environmental conference in May in Vienna.
‘“We’re going to go after them, and we’re going to be in there like an Alabama tick. …”‘
In response to the first paragraph: I wonder if they’re gonna’ find a law firm to take this on commission?
In response to the second paragraph allow me to tell you a story: Many years ago I went on a family camping trip. My brother’s son found himself with a tick attached to his little eight year old penis. Everybody, but everybody was very very careful about what they said to this boy about that because we all knew what would ensue if we said what we were thinking. Everybody, that is, except for my brother-in-law who left caution to the wind and told my nephew;
“Well, you’ve got a tick on your dick!”
I don’t know how many suns rose and set, how many seasons changed, before my nephew finally grew tired of telling everyone (near and far, old and young, he and she, and transgendered) that he once had a tick on his dick. It was thigh slapping poetry.
Let this be a warning to anyone who starts talking about ticks.


you remind of the old story about 2 aggies out hunting in the woods, when one of them was relieving himself and got bitten by a snake in the same place. So he yelled and asked his friend to help, so his buddy said “I don’t know what to do, I’ll call a doctor!” (and this was in the old days, nowadays this advice is no good anymore) BUT at the time, he called the coc and asked what first aid he could us for a snakebite, and the doc said “cut and suck, cut and suck!” So, he went back to his buddy, and buddy asked “What did the doc say? What did the doc say??”
“He said, you gonna die.”

Jimmy Haigh

Oozy 9 millimetre. It’s the steroids….


Last time I checked, only government can charge for criminal offenses.
Arnold has no standing to “sue” someone for first degree murder.

Tom in Florida

It would have to be wrongful death. But then I suppose he would have to name individuals who actually died from climate change.

Walter Sobchak

He would also have to be the dead man’s heir or next of kin.


I was wondering where in this thread it would be recognized that a private person cannot sue another for committing a criminal offense. One can only sue for personal damages or injury resulting from such an act.
Even uttering such a comment places him in shamefully ignorant company with our POTUS. I’m no lawyer nor a politician attempting to control the law, yet I know these things.
Arnold may sue for damages caused by committing such an act, but he can only sue for damages on his personal behalf, and not for others. They may try a “class action” case, but those are going nowhere either.

Tom Judd

If you deem our POTUS shamefully ignorant may I respectfully request that you present a better way to have brought North Korea to the negotiating table than he did.
And, let us not forget that the last three (apparently less shamefully ignorant) POTUS’s were quite content to kick that rather explosive can down the road.
Of course it’s not yet over. But nothing can finish till its at least been started. And, started, it has been.

Tom, Dennis Rodman is buddy buddy with the leader of North Korea. Doesn’t take intelligence to talk to people. There isn’t much difference between a NBA star and a TV reality star. Also note that for the past 50+ years the leadership of North Korea has been seeking recognition. They’ve conned the POTUS on that.


Well, South Korea’s spokemans said at the White House that Kim Jung-un “was committed to denuclearization”. That means he is committed to laying down his nuclear weapons, if we are to believe him.
That’s a very significant statement (again, if he is serious) and is just what we are seeking from Kim Jung-un, and Kim also said he would not object to the United States and South Korea continuing their military exercises (North Korea *always* objected to our military exercises in the past).
So Kim looks like he is ready to make a deal for one reason or another. It could be a ploy to meet with Trump, but it is still unknown whether Trump has been conned by Kim Jung-un.
But if Kim is not sincere and will not agree to denuclearize then we are right back in the same situation we were before: just a short time from a very destructive war if Kim pushes any farther than he has gone to date.
Trump is not going to allow Kim Jung-un to directly threaten the United States and its allies with nuclear weapons. If Kim goes that route, at some point Trump is going to eliminate him as a problem.
Let’s hope that Kim Jung-un has seen the light and believes that Trump will take him out without a deal. Kim can make a very good deal for himself and North Korea if he plays his cards right.
No agreement means hundreds of thousands of dead. That’s what’s at stake.
We got a miracle with Trump’s election. Maybe we can get another miracle with North Korea.
Although I must say I’m skeptical about Kim’s motives, but I don’t see how he benefits by meeting and then not agreeing. It will make his situation worse and will kill him eventually.

” Trump is not going to allow Kim Jung-un to directly threaten the United States and its allies with nuclear weapons. ”
Wow, so it’s OK if Putin threatens the US, but not Kim?
” If Kim goes that route, at some point Trump is going to eliminate him as a problem.”
So, tell me TA, why isn’t Trump going to eliminate Putin?

David A

He could claim to be brain dead, the evidence is overwhelming!


“So, tell me TA, why isn’t Trump going to eliminate Putin?”
Trump probably thinks Putin is a more rational player who values self-preservation. Although Putin is starting to look a lot like the homocidal maniac Kim Jung-un now. Kim poisons people who annoy him and it looks like Putin does, too.
I think Trump would eliminate Putin if he felt Putin was a direct threat. But just because we have two nuclear powers that are threatening us, Russia and China, doesn’t mean we should allow another state, one with a mad dictator at the helm, to threaten us, too.
We did not stop Russia and China from becoming a big nuclear threat to us, but we can stop North Korea from getting there. The U.S. can eliminate the Kim regime without it ending up being World War III. That’s all up to Russia and China, and I think they will stay out of it because I don’t think either one of them is going to sacrifice their nations on behalf of North Korea.


From some of the stuff I’ve read, if we don’t take out Kim, China may decide that they need to.
As it is, they would rather we do it, so that they can sit back and take the high moral ground.

This is the guy Republicans were falling all over themselves, going as far as to wonder if it was time to get rid of that antiquated law preventing immigrants from becoming president!

Tom in Florida

Don’t forget that he married a liberal fanatic. She certainly converted him.

Patrick B

This from the man who commuted daily by private jet between Sacramento and LA.


I used to work for big oil. I still have nightmares of the blood, the guts, the wailing and screaming….and that was just in the coffee room!

Need to stop watching Arnold Schwarzenegger movies in the coffee room.


An actor speaking without the benefit of a script is seldom worth listening to.


What is the US term for a total, complete and utter moron?



Tom in Florida

From now on it will be “Arnold”.

Harry Passfield

An ‘Arnold’. In some cases of extreme moronicity (new word?) It could be a ‘Megarnold’.
Schwarzenegger may actually have acheived ‘Gigarnold’.

“Moronicity” is an excellent word, and many of us conservatives have been using it for a long time in conversations about the Left…as in “can you believe the moronicity of those people?” A synonym could be “moronism”…

What is the US term for a total, complete and utter moron?
ONE term simply does NOT suffice. This level of stupid requires many, many words, … OR … no words.


Triple face palm, when even a double face palm no longer suffices


MOROSOPH: n. A well educated fool.

Harry Passfield

If you walk into a room and you know you’re going to kill someone, it’s first-degree murder

On the other hand, how many lives does oil save? From fuel for ambulances to heating oil, to name but two. So would Schwarzenegger be happy to walk everywhere?

Bryan A

Should be able to, doesn’t he Walk on Water?


It’s not oil per se, but the fact that cheap, efficient energy has been the cornerstone of an economy that has saved hundreds of millions, maybe billions, by creating wealth. We would never have created the wealth that ha allowed us to have hospitals, schools, vaccines, antibiotics, clean, safe water and so on without cheap energy.,

AGW is not Science

Yes,as I said above – attempting to “blame” fossil fuels for deaths is pretty laughable when they are the very foundation of modern society. It’s like calling a doctor who has saved thousands of lives a “murderer” for the two he/she couldn’t save.

Roger Graves

Arnold is simply demonstrating once again the First Principle of US Law: only sue those who have money. Don’t waste your time suing people who don’t have oodles of money, such as the gas station owners who actually sell oil-based products, go for the people with really big bank accounts, in this case the oil companies. Anyone who has attended a US law school will have had this drummed into them.


Roger he is also displaying another common trait: Ignorance and misinformation regarding the legal system.

David Wells

He knows tobacco kills people but he still smokes cigars. He converted his Hummer to LNG maybe he thinks LNG isn’t a fossil fuel because he never asked what the abbreviation means? Thought provoking I think?


Arnold must be aware that removing fossil fuels from energy provisions will result in millions of lives lost. – Grounds for a suitable counter claim?
Guns and lawsuits are american obsessions and, of course, Arnold epitomises both.



Tom in Florida

What do guns have to do with this? Or are you just trying to make points with our left wing socialist readers.


Believing that outlawing guns is a bad idea, makes one obsessed with them?


In my experience, the people who are obsessed with guns, are those who spend their time and energy trying to get them banned.


This would explain how he became Governor of Kalifornia. It was mutually assured dementia.

He should be investigated for unfairly using steroids to enhance his virtue signaling.

Tom in Florida

Or perhaps it really is a “toomah”.


These types of news stories need to be plastered everywhere because voters can see how insane these mooks are.


It’s bee shown not to always work. The voters are equally ignorant and misinformed. Orr current POTUS has amply demonstrated this. He’s made several ignorant blunders, but keeps on bloviating.


Methinks he should start by suing the folks who effectively terminated construction of new nuclear plants, and work his way back in time from there. Maybe he can sue all the way back to Rockefeller for making petroleum a more commercially viable alternative than whale oil…and keep going back to Dr. Abraham Gesner who pioneered the process. (sarc)
Celebrities out of the limelight seem to have a propensity for exhibiting delusional narcissism.

I think that for anyone to say that Fossil Fuels are evil ,death delivering products, ought to be brought up on charges of !st Degree Murder, with conspiracy charges along side. THEY are responsible for using these death causing chemicals, and are are just as guilty as someone taking a gun and using it against someone. They knew the gun was potentially deadly. Count all the air miles, gas miles, electrical bills, gas bills, movies production charges, gun fired, etc. add them up, and charge Arnold for his % of participation in the “killing” process. THEN, do what any Law enforcement person would do, and remove the offending weapon from the criminal. So, Arnold, no flying, no driving, no heat, no air conditioning, no ice cubes or refrigeration, clothes made by automation, on and on, and the same for your former housekeeper lover and her/your bambino..

John Garrett

The clown married a Kennedy; that’s when the brain rot commenced.

tom s



Well i’d like to see the body.
Who has been “murdered” exactly? It is pretty easy to point at tens of millions who are living and healthy because of fossil fuel companies but I don’t believe even Arnie can find a single person who has unequivocally died from Climate Change.
And as we all know, slightly warmer winters save lives.

AGW is not Science

Indeed. A comparison of the Little Ice Age mortality statistics with today’s ought to provide a good start to examining the relative benefits vs. detriments of “global warming” (assuming, of course, that fossil fuels have anything to do with it, which is unproven nonsense) and fossil fuel use in general.

DC Cowboy

“The oil companies knew from 1959 on, they did their own study that there would be global warming happening because of fossil fuels, and on top of it that it would be risky for people’s lives, that it would kill,” Schwarzenegger said Sunday.
Is there a source for this information or did he just confuse reality with a script he once read?

the bullet proof Kennedy has the brains of Teddy

What about all those moviegoers who blew their brains out after seeing a Schwarzenegger ?
Now where is the corpus dilicti, Arnold ? Where are the dead people from global warming?


Perfect example of a virtue signaling useful idiot. People are getting wise to, and tired of, the plethora of Hollywood and political elites with their hypocritical virtue signaling on any subject.

Schwarzenegger is threatening to sue big oil for a crime that is impossible to commit, withholding the truth about climate change, a crime he declares to be “first-degree murder.” The truth about climate change is still unknown, in spite of the misguided claims of alarmists that the science is settled. After more than 30 years of study, scientists have proven themselves unable to successfully predict long-term climate. A growing body of climate scientists worldwide now predicts that the global temperature over the next several decades will likely decline, in which case, current environmental policies would be diametrically opposite from the right policies. Arnold is living in a fantasy land.


Arnold Schwarzenegger never was the sharpest knife in the drawer…a bit of clueless dunce. Perhaps the steroids did permanent brain damage. I always thought he was sort of a B Grade actor as well, most of his movies not worth watching, but for a few. And a horrible Governor, really sinking California in a sea of further red ink by the time he exited office.

Tom Halla

i was still in California when Arnold was governor. He tried hi first year, and the Democrats basically blocked whatever he tried to do. Then he apparently decided to be an Uncle Teddy clone politically. A total disappointment after we recalled Grey Davis.


But hey it’s not Illinois.


Yet. Illinois has been an DNC protectorate for a few decades longer than California has.

In 50 years there will be a movement in the psychiatric profession to retroactively declare an entire class of people as psychotic. But how many will have responded to treatment by then? For the sake of future generations, hopefully many.