Guest Opinion by Kip Hansen



ClimateFwd_2018_2_7The New York Times continues to send out its little climate “newsletter” alerting the public to the most important news about the climate, every two weeks.

I look forward to it — because very little in the way of main stream media news about the climate offers so much comic relief.  The first thing — it makes me laugh every time I come to it —  is the ClimateFwd: newsletter’s  editor.  She is Kendra Pierre-Louis and always includes her Twitty-name:  @KendraWrites — the link goes to her official page where she subtitles herself as “Kendra “Gloom is My Beat” Pierre-Louis” — honest — you can’t make stuff like this up.  Every time I see her name in print, I think of this and laugh out loud.

She is great — well, she makes me laugh and that’s a good thing.  In keeping with the Editorial Narrative on Climate Change at the NY Times, which calls for everything to have a climate change hook and to tell the world how bad things are because of, you know, Climate Change is already happening, Ms. “Gloom is My Beat” gives us a climate change story about the Winter Olympics.

It features a US Olympic Cross-country skier — “Jessie Diggins is a cross-country skier on the American women’s team and a favorite to win a medal at the Winter Games in Pyeongchang, South Korea. …. Diggins is also an advocate for climate action. I interviewed her to understand more about why she believes winter is worth protecting. “

Jessie says    “…in places like Davos, Switzerland, where they normally have three feet of snow, they’ve been snow farming and saving it for the next year because they don’t even count on getting snow anymore. I’ve spoken to people in Switzerland who are losing their jobs because winter’s going away.”   And goes on to say “….saving winter is something I believe in. It just breaks my heart because this is such a cool sport, and winter is so amazing and beautiful and I feel like we’re actually really at risk of losing it. And I don’t want my kids to grow up in a world where they’ve never experienced snow because we weren’t responsible enough.” [I’ve added emphasis. — kh]

Three  things break my heart:

1)  That the NY Times’ editorial staff apparently do not realize just how silly publishing things like this make them look to educated, knowledgeable readers.

2)  That the ClimateFwd: editor, Ms. Pierre-Louis, apparently doesn’t read her own newspaper (maybe doesn’t read any newspaper?)  or she never would have included the Davos quotes.

3)  That a young American sportswoman can have been so poorly educated in high school that she does not, seemingly,  know what causes the seasons and can be brainwashed into thinking that “winter is going away” and that there is any chance whatever that her kids will “grow up in a world where they’ve never experienced snow”.

Point 1:  This is the third edition of ClimateFwd: and they have each been just as silly as the first.

Point 2:  NY Times, JAN. 22, 2018 (almost three weeks ago),  Heads of State and C.E.O.s in Davos Beware: 6 Feet of Snow in 6 Days

[Hey, give her a break, Mr. Hansen, maybe she reads the Washington Post. ]

Washington Post, 23 Jan 2018, Heavy snow and avalanches strand thousands at ski villages across the Alps

[Ok, maybe Reuters?]

Thomson-Reuters, 23 Jan 18, Heavy snow buries the global elite at Davos summit

[I give up.]

Good, because then there is this breaking news — Cold weather turning skis to garbage in Pyeongchang

Point 3:  NASA Space Place: What causes the seasons?  (yes, this site is for kids…but it is easy to understand, even if one doesn’t read very well yet.)

All of this makes me want to donate vast sums (of which I have none, btw) to foundations that are trying to sort out the US educational system, so our grandkids never have to experience the kind of cognitive meltdown exhibited by ClimateFwd:.

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Author’s Comment Policy:

This is an OPINION piece — so I won’t discuss hard science issues.   It is meant to be amusing at the expense of NY Times — which used to be a newspaper and used to hire journalists.

I will actually make that donation as soon as the Koch Brothers or Big Oil  sends me a nice fat check.

If you want to speak to me personally, and not just make a general comment, start with “Kip…” so I can be sure to see it.

This OpEd is not meant to be taken too seriously.

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February 9, 2018 6:08 pm

A sad commentary on the state of intelligence.

Reply to  markl
February 9, 2018 6:56 pm

At some point in the fairly recent past, many people’s brains fell out. I speculate it was because of software reducing the need to think and now most are completely dependant on them.

Reply to  PiperPaul
February 10, 2018 12:08 am

Actually, I think there may be some truth in that.
In my work as a production planner, I noticed that as software became more “sophisticated”, people lost the ability to think for themselves.
I fear that as “artificial intelligence” increases, human intelligence will decline. I already see evidence in the real world, in for example shop workers.
I suspect that as cars learn to drive themselves, humans will lose the ability to drive.
Humans will turn into zombies.

Reply to  PiperPaul
February 10, 2018 9:54 am

I’m not too worried about cars driving themselves until I see one cope with a blizzard, black ice, and 2 feet of snow. So far, the cars drive in California and Arizona. There’s probably good reasons for this.

Reply to  PiperPaul
February 10, 2018 9:56 am

Wow, that is a relief. I thought it was the onset of senile dementia.

Reply to  PiperPaul
February 10, 2018 3:09 pm

A lot of truth in that – and it applies to me as well. I no longer memorize anything. I can check it on the internet, or copy and paste it into Word files for later reference. Ofttimes while writing comments I look up things real quick to ensure I have them right. I’m just lazy. And I can spend the time I save from not memorizing to writing unimportant comments here!

Reply to  PiperPaul
February 10, 2018 9:18 pm

I have a physician friend who is very jovial and enjoys a good laugh with his patients – whenever appropriate of course. One of his pranks occurs during a physical exam when he is checking a patient’s ears with his otoscope. When looking in, say, the left ear, he will ask them to wave their right hand in front of their right ear. Invariably patients will do this because they are already in the mode of following whatever instructions the doctor has given them during the exam process. And then he will say something like, “Good! — I can see right through you! — No brains at all!”

Reply to  PiperPaul
February 11, 2018 7:38 am

That’s nonsense. “Stupidity”, groupthink, and blind faith are nothing new. Just look at the witchhunts. And if cars learn to drive themselves then of course people will lose the ability to drive. But not because they become “stupid” or anything, but simply because they don’t need to do it anymore. But that is not necessarily a bad thing. Most people today, even the smart and educated ones couldn’t repair a cartwheel, but that doesn’t mean that they are stupid. If “human intelligence” (sounds like some kind of a hive mind) is truly in decline then why there are so much sophisticated technology, inventions etc. today than ever before? And of course it’s always the other guy who is stupid, and you yourself are always wise and enlightened. I mean the alarmists say that we are the stupid ones!
Besides, what does “stupidity” even mean? I feel like it has lost its meaning and became a mindless accusation people use against other people they disagree with. Kinda like “nazi” or “fascist”. And I don’t think stupidity is determined by how many things you can do. I don’t know how to drive a car for example. I never really needed one. Does that mean i’m stupid? A drooling imbecile?
In case of climate alarm, many of these things have more to do with trusting the institutions than stupidity. And I can’t really blame them, even if I think they are wrong in their beliefs. No one can know everything so trust is important. Come on, leave the pessimistic alarmism to leftist liberals.
@ noaaprogrammer
Next time i’m visiting a doctor, i’m going to question everything he says and make the visit as difficult as possible for me and for the doctor. It’s going to suck for everyone, but atleast he can’t say that i’m a mindless sheep.

Bill Polhemus
Reply to  Fredar
February 11, 2018 9:26 am

Your point is a good one, but let’s not paint with an over-broad brush. Of course there are times when accepting learned or professional opinions is wisdom. But part of INTELLIGENCE is having a very good idea about when something doesn’t pass the smell test.

Reply to  PiperPaul
February 13, 2018 6:42 am

Yes, and precious few cashiers can make change today without a register that tells them how much to give back to the customer.

Reply to  markl
February 9, 2018 11:13 pm

Sports people are generally (not always) renowned for having below average intelligence and have not had time for a proper education.

Reply to  Phillip Bratby
February 10, 2018 2:01 pm

It would be unkind to say they focus on their sport because they are too stupid to do a regular education. We all hear about American college students doing the ‘jock’ curriculum.

Reply to  Phillip Bratby
February 10, 2018 3:18 pm

“Fun facts: I like raspberries and pickles. Separately, not together. I love adrenaline-filled adventures like cliff jumping, bungee jumping and skydiving. Reading a lot of books on the road is fun and so is camping, canoeing, gardening, and creative projects.
After moonlighting as a dancer, soccer player, violinist, swimmer, and track runner, I finally settled on Cross Country skiing as a full-time job. I really enjoy traveling and the experience of seeing new places and racing around the world. But most of all, what I love about skiing is the chance to push my body to the limit, to be training outside on beautiful trails, and the chance to find something new about myself with every race!”
“I attended Stillwater High School and skied on their team for 6 years, loving the team environment and camaraderie of the sport. I found so many friends on the team and we had so much fun! I also learned that I loved the competition side of skiing, and started taking the racing more seriously. I joined summer training programs, and eventually began training year-round for XC skiing.”
Jessie appears to be a nice young woman dedicated to many active pursuits but does not seem qualified to discuss complex scientific hypotheses even when interviewed by Ms. Pierre-Louis who openly states, “My opinion should be yours.” at, which is assuredly sarcastic. But the sarcasm excuse does not nullify seeking out and quoting a non-scientist who spent six years skiing in high school.
As an aside, Kip is much braver than me because I considered subscribing to NYT’s Climate Fwd. newsletter, hovered over the ‘Submit’ button and chickened out.

Reply to  brianabate
February 10, 2018 3:30 pm

Six years on the igh skiing team!
I’m impressed she found a high school with a skiing team
Found a way to stay eligible for six years on a high skiing team.
Found a way to get a job skiing after skiing for six years on a high school skiing team!
(Then again, I did earn several scholarships to college by competing in 2 years as a slide rule and science competitor ….
Yes, Virginia, this was before there were calculators.
Car phones.
Cell phones.
Flip phones.
Or today’s dumb phones. (Er, smart phones.)

Dave Fair
Reply to  RACookPE1978
February 10, 2018 3:46 pm

I bought the first HP35 on the Portland State University campus; $395 on a college budget! Couldn’t finish vector analysis on a slide-rule.

David A
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
February 10, 2018 5:48 pm

After her comments I assume she went to a three year high school twice.

Reply to  Phillip Bratby
February 15, 2018 5:50 pm

But then she probably heard about this pdf from some group with an unpronounceable name, in the pub, cause the drinking age in Switzerland is 16. They actually are trying to ‘Farm Snow’ in Davos, the wazzucs. You guys will love this, full of charts, graphs, and bamboozily what’s its. It appears to be about maintaining decent snow pack but even they can’t help themselves and mention GW.

Reply to  markl
February 10, 2018 4:50 am


Pop Piasa
Reply to  markl
February 10, 2018 7:10 pm

…if everyone ignored her she might go away…

Bill Polhemus
February 9, 2018 6:13 pm

I appreciate both your attempt at levity and your determination to correct the record.
Unfortunately the brainwashing exemplified by Jessie Diggins appears to be so pervasive and so widespread that I suspect you’re preaching only to the converted (or rather, the independent-minded who don’t accept orthodoxy because “so many people tell us it’s true.”)
I constantly run into young people online who not only unswervingly believe what they’re told, citing what “nearly all the world’s scientists tell us,” but refuse utterly to even do so much as take a peek at alternative sources of information.
“You believe a blog instead of what science says?” is the typical retort. I reply it doesn’t matter what I believe. I’m only trying to let them know there are alternate sources of information. But I waste my time.
This is religion to them.

Reply to  Bill Polhemus
February 10, 2018 9:55 am

I reply that I read the research papers. Would they please quote the research papers they are reading.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Sheri
February 10, 2018 7:18 pm

Sheri, that just flashed back a memory of a ‘greenie’ remarking to me that I must not be reading National Geographic if I don’t understand the science.

Ian L. McQueen
Reply to  Bill Polhemus
February 10, 2018 10:53 am

To Bill- You have described almost perfectly a friend of mine who believes the MSM and find it impossible even to read what WUWT and the others have to say. And this person had a successful career as a mechanical engineer……

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Ian L. McQueen
February 10, 2018 7:45 pm

Maybe he sees it as a religion different from the one he has chosen.
One of the frailties of mortals is the need for something to believe in.
The climate crusade replaces the traditional god-entity with the idea that the current over-population of humanity has become the prevalent force of global change, deciding the ultimate fate of itself (and the planet) by altering the concentration trace gases in the troposphere

Reply to  Bill Polhemus
February 10, 2018 2:04 pm

I once had a discussion with a green that was extremely left in his views. He was extremely concerned that I had seen an alternative to the orthodoxy and thought it shouldn’t be allowed.

February 9, 2018 6:23 pm

The NY Times’ editorial staff do not care how silly publishing things like that makes them look to their readers, as very few of its readers are either educated or knowledgeable about anything

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  ntesdorf
February 9, 2018 10:46 pm

It is incredible that NYT used that nonsene about snow in Davos, they must know the recent stories of the snow-bound summit there. No more cheering for Diggins from this side of the Atlantic.

Reply to  Henning Nielsen
February 10, 2018 9:47 am

Kip she is not a victim. Unless you think she is incapable of choice 🙂

Reply to  Henning Nielsen
February 10, 2018 9:58 am

Give her a beak. Just virtue signaling.

Randy in Ridgecrest
Reply to  Henning Nielsen
February 10, 2018 2:19 pm

texasjim, I bet not, I bet she actually believes this gloom.

Curious George
Reply to  ntesdorf
February 10, 2018 7:52 am

NYT’s printed weekday circulation dropped by 50 percent to 571,500 copies from 2005 to 2016. Does that mean that 50% of its readers used to be educated or knowledgeable?

Russ Wood
Reply to  Curious George
February 12, 2018 5:21 am

-Reminds me of the old Joke: “How do you keep a WASP uninformed? Hide his Readers Digest. How do you keep him mis-informed? Find it for him.” These days, you can substitute any of the marques of MSM and almost anybody under 40.

Reply to  ntesdorf
February 11, 2018 3:55 am

ditto guardian they have a greenlight climate mail i keep getting..and same result, i should quit as having numbers keeps them thinking people take them seriously and care..
but i also, like Kip, get it for the laughs it provides me and friends;-)

Robert from oz
February 9, 2018 6:40 pm

Much the same with the ABC in oz , doesn’t matter if it’s true or not when it comes to CAGW .

February 9, 2018 6:43 pm

Nice post! You made me chuckle, …unlike Ms. Pierre-Louis’ posts and others that make me gasp in disbelief that such garbage gets printed in the NYTimes or force-fed to America’s students

Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 9, 2018 8:40 pm

I’ll take a look and email you.
I haven’t had time to read that report. Among other endeavors, I am on the Pacifica Sea level Rise Community Working Group and have been devoting a lot of research time to the causes and models regards sea level change, a topic I will post about shortly.

Extreme Hiatus
Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 9, 2018 9:13 pm

Kip, you mean the 2016 version? as in:
Birds are one of my main things (50+ years birding and not just for fun). There are so many things wrong with the way they attempt to link ‘climate change’ to real and imagined effects on bird populations that it is both laughable and sad.
I just took a very quick skim of this 2016 report (link) and the first problem I noted was this:
“The relative abundance estimates visualized in the Species Abundance Maps were based on bird observation data from eBird (Sullivan et al. 2014) , a rapidly growing citizen-science program administered by Cornell Lab of Ornithology.”
I’m a big fan of eBird and have plugged thousands of records into it but it simply is not suitable for this purpose except as an approximate indicator. There is no rigor or systematic data collection in most of it and tons of erroneous data, particularly for the more common species.
There are also serious problems with Breeding Bird Survey data when used to calculate population trends.
So lots of material to expose there.

Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 9, 2018 9:18 pm

Extreme, where do you bird?

Extreme Hiatus
Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 9, 2018 9:32 pm

Jim – Mostly in British Columbia.

Extreme Hiatus
Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 10, 2018 2:04 pm

Kip – Great posts… which I somehow missed (I took a hiatus from following this blog for a while). The whole ‘blame it on climate change’ story falls apart when you look at the details!
Also good to hear you are a birder and an eBirder. Great system for collecting data and it can only get more useful as that data accumulates. But you also noted that “but what it will not do is (and can not do by design) is help with population estimates. It is terrific for determining WHERE differing species are found, but now how many.” With a very few exceptions – where repeated rigorous survey data are entered – I agree completely. Yet in that latest report they do seem to be trying to use it for population estimates, or at least relative abundance.
Look forward to your future posts on this topic and anything else related to birds.

Reply to  Jim Steele
February 10, 2018 10:01 am

I once worked in NYC. Read the Times on the way in each morning. To get my blood circulating. Boiling, that is. The Times has been a left wing rag since….ummm, forever. Remember Walter Duranty, the star reporter who praised the Soviet Union from dawn to dusk? I think he even got a Pulitzer for it. I believe nothing that is printed by that.*Y^((## so-called newspaper.

Reply to  Jim Steele
February 10, 2018 10:42 am

It is so sad, really. Way back in the last Century, the NYT was considered the “paper of record” and it was entirely too much for the average New Yorker to digest, especially as they never ran any funnies!

Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 10, 2018 12:47 pm

Indeed Kip, things were very different in our youth. But we need to own a lot of how the world is today because we Baby Boomers planted the seeds that grew into Gen X and the Millennials. Again, a working time machine would be a fine thing to own….

February 9, 2018 6:49 pm

Yeah, there’s a whole class of useful idiots, useless idiots and human-ish parrots who they don’t even have to say “climate change” to. Just the word “climate” does it. One day the human genetics of pickpocketing your fellow human being, and kleptomania will be solved, but it won’t be in any of our lifetimes. Just have to accept it and live a life around it.
Any rebuttal of this will be carefully read …..

Reply to  philincalifornia
February 9, 2018 6:59 pm

Just the word “climate” does it.
Due to massive mental and emotional conditioning through relentless media messaging.

Reply to  philincalifornia
February 10, 2018 9:15 am

Or the word carbon

Extreme Hiatus
February 9, 2018 7:03 pm

“and winter is so amazing and beautiful and I feel like we’re actually really at risk of losing it”
First, it does not take a great mind to be a cross-country skier.
Second, ha ha ha. Yes, winter is just so amazing dudette! And awesome too. Gnarly.
Third. I “feel.” Not think but feel. That’s a sign of the deliberately dumbed down indoctrination system that now erodes the West. China is now leading in super-computers. Did they need to import IT people too? No.
Fourth. I agree. These people are seriously “at risk of losing it,” if they even had “it” to begin with.
Fifth. Is anything in the NYT or Washington Compost other than sports scores credible these days?
Thanks for a laugh Kip.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Extreme Hiatus
February 9, 2018 7:18 pm

“Extreme Hiatus February 9, 2018 at 7:03 pm
First, it does not take a great mind to be a cross-country skier.”
Or any other sport for that matter however, sporting personalities are held in awe by the masses and anything they say is taken as gospel.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
February 10, 2018 10:04 am

Is chess a sport?

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  Extreme Hiatus
February 9, 2018 10:54 pm

And guess where the next winter Olympics will be? Yes, that’s right: Beijing. That will truly be a non-winter wonderland for NYT and Diggins, because the sking competitions will be held in an area where there is seldom snow at all.
Look forward to more gloom to brigthen your day.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Henning Nielsen
February 9, 2018 11:03 pm

I’m sure there will be plenty of snow where needed, given the number of shovels and amount of straw available. Our renewable generation amounts are testimony that unlimited dollars can accomplish anything.

Alan Tomalty
February 9, 2018 7:05 pm

I just listened to a talk by Naomi Oreskes on CBC radio on a talk she gave to UBC who said that all fossil fuel infrastructure construction should be stopped. She also said that carbon costs the world $ 3 trillion per year. Since CO2 actually has benefitted plants and has cost us nothing so far She really meant that pollution costs us $ 3 trillion per year. If that is true it is because of the effect on our health and the health of plants and animals. I wont argue the real number but until China gets its pollution under control that figure will always remain high . Dont forget that China’s pollution has polluted all its way even to the North Pole above Canada and all over the Arctic. Of course China isnt the only polluter but since their CO2 production is 30% of the world their pollution % must be nearly the same.

Reply to  Alan Tomalty
February 10, 2018 1:49 am

Carbon may cost us that, but it also benefits us multiples of that cost. That’s why we use it. Duh.

Reply to  Phoenix44
February 10, 2018 5:42 am

Naomi Oreskes is allowed to stop using carbon. I’d say she could start immediately.

Reply to  Phoenix44
February 10, 2018 9:17 am

Kip, you awake?

Robert Hope
February 9, 2018 7:05 pm

The ‘progressives’ and yes….It does distill to to this…
And so now they of course become more increasingly absurd..
As we discover continuely how much more nakedly absurd they (it?) actually is-:)

Patrick MJD
February 9, 2018 7:14 pm

“Jessie says “…in places like Davos, Switzerland, where they normally have three feet of snow, they’ve been snow farming and saving it for the next year because they don’t even count on getting snow anymore.”
She actually said this? And how can you farm snow and store it for when needed? She really needs to stick to cross-country skiing, leave weather related issues to the educated and informed.

W Barkley
Reply to  Patrick MJD
February 9, 2018 7:32 pm

The snow farmers had a bumper crop this year. Apparently double the normal three foot

Reply to  W Barkley
February 9, 2018 8:43 pm

Well, apparently they actually do, but the purpose is to start ski season earlier:

Dave Fair
Reply to  W Barkley
February 9, 2018 10:51 pm

People! Snow farming is big business! At least for the last 10-plus years at Davos and surrounding areas.
Locally, they mound and cover winter snow with straw for use the following year to “groom” cross country trails. They then rent out those trails to competition-level athletes prior to the normal training periods of later winter. [Apparently, rich kiddies get a chance at off-times.]
Any twit that thinks it has anything to do with global warming deserves their 15 minutes at the New York Times.
Also, how do you think ice “houses” worked? Put big chunks (blocks) of ice in underground chambers and pack with straw to preserve stuff until the next winter.
The U.S., having a wider range of climatic and topographic conditions, doesn’t have to do that. Although the various ski areas “make” snow to extend their profitable season.

Reply to  W Barkley
February 10, 2018 10:09 am

Wish they had done this in WA state many years ago. Ruined a couple of skis on Mt Baker because spots of bare rock were incompletely covered by the straw strewn over them to replace snow. That is the same year, I think, that Alpental was virtually unskiable (is that a word?) after I had bought family tickets for the year.

Dave Fair
Reply to  texasjimbrock
February 10, 2018 3:39 pm

Ever ski Mt. Hood in the rain, Tex?

Pop Piasa
Reply to  W Barkley
February 10, 2018 8:02 pm

I guess the trick is refrigerated silos to store the crop, eh?

Reply to  Patrick MJD
February 9, 2018 7:32 pm

Hey don’t mock. If global warming allows you to farm snow …….
Just do it.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Patrick MJD
February 9, 2018 9:24 pm

Poor Jessie may not know they groom the trails – it only looks like farming. I suspect this a made up comment by the gloomy reporter. She has to crank out another Stale offering next week. Actually the weather has been quite cold all over the NH this year and even snow to be farmed in southe4n Morocco .

Reply to  Gary Pearse
February 10, 2018 10:07 am

Doesn’t “grooming trails” require fossil fuels? The page with the snow farming showed a fossil fuel powered piece of equipment. Or else maybe it runs on magic….

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  Patrick MJD
February 9, 2018 10:58 pm

Snow melts very slowly, if kept under cover in the shade, also in mild weather. Even uncovered mounds of snow are stubborn and refuse to go away, as one can see in summer, when the snow depots from the city streets are still surprisingly intact.

Alan D McIntire
Reply to  Henning Nielsen
February 10, 2018 5:07 am

Henry David Thoreau addressed this in his book, “Walden Pond”, written in the 1850s.
The ice trade was a big deal in New England prior to the advent of refrigeration. Simply put, the region had bitterly cold winters and lots of lakes. Ice was cut in blocks and hauled to ice houses where they were stacked and insulated (often by being covered in sawdust), and then sold throughout the warm weather months.:

Reply to  Henning Nielsen
February 10, 2018 9:25 am

The company I work for was a major player in the “Frozen Water Trade” as referenced in a book by that name. It was big business.

Bill Polhemus
February 9, 2018 7:21 pm

There is something in the human spirit that craves what we commonly call “religion,” something greater than oneself, an exercise of faith in things that one cannot see or prove, but which “feel right” to us and allow us to see form where otherwise there is only chaos.
The “postmodern” western world – at least the intelligent part – has deliberately done away with traditional deistic religion wherever possible and substituted a political religion that has a great many quirks, easily as many as you’d find in the discourses of medieval theologists ruminating on the number of angels able to dance on the head of a pin.
For instance, “religion is superstition,” but that doesn’t apply across the board. Muslims, Buddhists, “pagans’ and such are given respectful place because to do otherwise would be “racist” and “intolerant.” It is typically the Judeo-Christian faith that is scorned and given the blame for all the world’s ills.
But that sense of longing for a spiritual fulfillment cannot remain unfulfilled, so they adopt humanistic philosophies to take its place.
Western Christianity focused on the sojourn on earth as a temporary estate and confidently saw the afterlife as the state in which all ills will be remedied and perfection attained. The postmodern humanistic religion sees this life also as imperfect, but rather than sin and sorrow being the common lot, blames it on “isms” such as racism, sexism, homophobia and the whole host of Leftist tropes of evil.
And the good news of the postmodern humanist gospel is, WE CAN FIX IT! Yes, through the establishment of a benevolent world government, all the woes of this world will eventually be addressed, and we will achieve perfection right here on the very globe benighted Christians saw as the vale of sorrow. They are confident in it, no matter how often you point out the failures of the very recipes they prescribe (Venezuela and North Korea just go right over their heads).
When I have engaged for long with one of these idealistic young ones, and am able to point out to them with any success that the horrible predictions of climate change that have been made for the past half-century haven’t even vaguely come true, they will ultimately retreat to “what’s wrong with trying to make a better world?” Ultimately to them, that’s what this is all about. They don’t even think about the FACTS, just the “fear, uncertainty and doubt” that is the warning given for what will happen if western humans continue to be western humans (that’s really who is always to blame; they hardly ever seem to flinch at the notion that India and China together, both of whom have no intention of “stopping climate change,” have more than a third of the world’s population between them),
So as with all “true believers,” engaging in factual and honest conversation just will not work. Eventually you come to the edge of the map beyond which is the land of make-believe where the perfect human world exists, that has never even shown any possibility of achievement but which they are convinced will happen if we will just accept the immediate need to rescue polar bears, the undeniable fact of 62 genders, and the urgent need to stop capitalism and start government redistribution from each according to his capacity to each according to his need.
That this is way, way less likely than anything St. Augustine may have seen in vision just doesn’t register with them.

Bill Polhemus
Reply to  Bill Polhemus
February 9, 2018 7:24 pm

“…at least the intelligent part…”
Sorry, obviously that should have said “the INTELLECTUAL part.”

Dave Fair
Reply to  Bill Polhemus
February 9, 2018 10:56 pm

Man, can’t we just keep to climate-related stuff? Religion and philosophy have a bad reputation. You haven’t helped in any way, Bill.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Dave Fair
February 10, 2018 5:59 am

Time to grow up, Dave. Bill’s piece is great. The only problem I have with it is the narrow view about how a global governance scheme ‘must’ work. He only admits a communist alternative, then rails against it.
Global governance of an unrepresentative sort has existed since the international law of the sea was penned. I wish readers would take a less binary view of a global federation of nations. There are a huge number of operational treaties that function at the global level and they are very good for everyone. Deciding on a global currency, for example, would disempower the transnational banks greatly in their exploitation of the entire population and make war much more difficult to conduct.

Bill Polhemus
Reply to  Dave Fair
February 10, 2018 7:35 am

Tell it to the CAGW true believers.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Bill Polhemus
February 10, 2018 3:29 pm

Like I said, Bill.

Reply to  Dave Fair
February 10, 2018 10:12 am

“Deciding on a global currency, for example, would disempower the transnational banks greatly in their exploitation of the entire population and make war much more difficult to conduct.” Which would only be replaced by some other method of control and waging war. You can’t fix basic human flaws with global currency or treaties.

Reply to  Bill Polhemus
February 10, 2018 12:05 am

We just need to find the Right Leader to save us all !
Memoirs of Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds should be mandatory reading in schools

Reply to  Karlos51
February 10, 2018 1:03 am

“We just need to find the Right Leader to save us all !”
I nominate Kim Jong On;
the glorious leader has given his people one of the lowest carbon footprints & single handed has generously removed Global Warming from the entire northern hemisphere (so even skis snap in the cold), & he has a nice haircut !
Alternatively I’ll do the job (well someone has to),just send money.

The Reverend Badger
Reply to  Karlos51
February 10, 2018 9:03 am

I have been personally recommending that one for years, all over the place.

Smart Rock
Reply to  Bill Polhemus
February 10, 2018 6:19 am

There is something in the human spirit that craves what we commonly call “religion,”

Not in my spirit, mate. P’raps I’m not very human.(a failing that I have been accused of from time to time)
OTOH there seems to be something in my spirit that craves what we commonly call “truth” and “knowledge” and “understanding” and “enlightenment”
Probably that’s why I was drawn to science, and why I enjoy doing it, even applied science in the service of industry.
It’s also why it’s so distressing to see what we used to call the scientific method replaced by predetermined conclusions, cherry-picked data and circular argument, all in the service of a political agenda.
I’m not arguing with you Bill P. Just saying.

Reply to  Smart Rock
February 10, 2018 10:16 am

Science can serve the same purpose as religion. If it gives order to your life, gives rules and regulation by which to live and makes you part of something larger (which science does), then it can be a religion. Humans just want something to provide order and meaning.

NW sage
February 9, 2018 7:41 pm

Heck, I already miss the glacier skiing I would have been able to do if man (and my ancestors) had been around during the last glaciation period about 30,000 yrs ago [plus or minus 100,000 or so]
On the other hand maybe they did and failed to leave me a note!

Rick Anderson
February 9, 2018 8:33 pm

I can live with NYT editorials, and opinions slipped into news stories. My big problem is sloppy writing and editing. A few weeks ago there was a business story about a company with declining profits — like from $100 down to $80 down to $60. The reporter then referred to the “widening losses.” More recently there was an article about Mersenne prime numbers. In order to explain what a Mersenne prime was, the reporter wrote something like, “Three is an example of a Mersenne prime.” This was in the print edition. I just looked up the article on the Internet and there is a more complete definition. Anyway, it seems like the quality of the writing is declining. Accelerating? What gerund do I use for the third derivative?

February 9, 2018 8:45 pm

Kip, did you have to subscribe to that or was it part of another link to the times? Do they allow comments in any way? Just curious if there are any rebuttals that she can actually see, aside from perhaps twitter.
Regardless, thanks for chuckle, albeit a sad one in a way. ….

Clyde Spencer
February 9, 2018 8:56 pm

A heads up that I responded to your question, in your previous contribution, about UV flux monitoring.

Gary Pearse
February 9, 2018 9:07 pm

I suspect that “gloom is her beat” and almost everyone else’s in the CAGW promotional field these days. We only hear from the main players now in snarky op eds and the occasional smear paper, like the one the polar bear group, along with guest authors Michael Mann and Stephen Lewandowsky cobbled together (what do they know about polar bears) to insult Susan Crockford. It could only have been publishable because things are slow in the meme.
Do Trenberth, Schmidt and other formerly busy climate folk do any research nowadays? They had already suffered through the Pause and then Trump came on the scene. Sad end game for alarm researchers and meme journalists. The ‘no more snow’ plaint is a recycled worry from 2000 (Dr Viner’s prediction debunked by nature). They don’t seem to have their hearts in it.

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  Gary Pearse
February 9, 2018 9:23 pm

The politicians have their hearts in it Bleeding hearts Bleeding us of all of our money through carbon taxes. We have a long way to go before the hoax of global warming is over

Reply to  Gary Pearse
February 10, 2018 10:17 am

Wish they had done this in WA state many years ago. Ruined a couple of skis on Mt Baker because spots of bare rock were incompletely covered by the straw strewn over them to replace snow. That is the same year, I think, that Alpental was virtually unskiable (is that a word?) after I had bought family tickets for the year.

Alan Tomalty
February 9, 2018 9:18 pm

“Cold weather turning skis to garbage in Pyeongchang”
i caught this quote in the article so I clicked it. It is cold enough in Korea that the Olympic skiers are throwing away $1000 pair of skis after every run because the skis deteriorate in the cold conditions. Imagine, the world is watching (and most of them believe in AGW) a competition where it is too cold to keep a pair of skis for more than 1 run. The people back home watching the competition on tv are sitting in their homes heated by fossil fuels and railing against global warming , meanwhile the skiers that are throwing away these skis after 1 run do so because even though the damage is little, every microsecond counts. And those skiers are taxpayer supported in most of the countries that are competing. What a world of OZ we live in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply to  Alan Tomalty
February 10, 2018 10:20 am

What color of wax do they use? I don’t know if there is one for such cold weather.

Reply to  texasjimbrock
February 10, 2018 10:23 am

Maybe white fastwax.

February 9, 2018 10:27 pm

Kip, while Kendra Gloom is funny in her climatic way of writing talking points, and manages to select comical examples due to her apparent ignorance of (or secret sarcasm on) recent events, I must admire the poetic and political rhetoric she manages to put forward and spin on.
I also admire people who can keep their job with such an abysmally small factual content. They must be really good in filling the expectations while not quite addressing any technical questions, like when Texas or Davos is supposed to finally be snow-free. They have also the very admirable skill to put their own goal, own opinion, what they want to say, in mouth of somebody relevant sounding, at the same time so that were the interviewee dramatically wrong, that is not actually news at all.
The result is what I’d call deliberate bullshit except I’m not sure if she thinks it is. What an intriguing position!

Dave Fair
Reply to  Hugs
February 9, 2018 11:00 pm

I’m not sure it took much effort to put words into that skier’s mouth.

Reply to  Dave Fair
February 10, 2018 5:34 am

I’m sure it takes a lot of effort to find people who drop exactly the most horrendous cliches for your paper. She’s not making things up, I hope. She just finds someone gullible enough to say what she liked to hear. In effect, she makes the story and puts the words in mouth despite the fact they probably were uttered to some accuracy by the interviewee, as depicted.
I realized this after I was interviewed by the local paper and did not say what the journalist(tm) wanted me to say. Haha, they interviewed somebody else.

Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 10, 2018 10:23 am

Our local news director told me the reporters go out and interview “experts” and then report this. Even when presented with evidence that their report was materially incorrect, the station refused to consider they erred. I am always amazed when there is a retraction or correction—I figure lightening struck close to the studio and scared them! It’s basically just “professional” YouTube videos. No research, etc.

Henning Nielsen
February 9, 2018 11:01 pm

Lucky for Kendra that gloom rhymes with doom.

M Courtney
February 10, 2018 12:17 am

This is marketing for a media outlet.
AGW has been pushed in schools so aggressively that it has now become a children’s subject. It fills that time between Barbie dolls and employment hassles.
So try re-reading Fwd as a children’s section of the paper.
•It has the latest pre-planned soft news story (the Winter Olympics) as a hook.
•It has simple arguments with no counterpoint.
•It’s extreme! No Winter at all, not warmer or shorter.
Don’t blame the writer for aiming at here target audience. And don’t worry about the audience. They will grow up.

Reply to  M Courtney
February 10, 2018 10:24 am

If nothing else, when they are freezing to death with no wind and no sun, they may be jolted into the real world.

Stephen Skinner
February 10, 2018 2:08 am

“…winter’s going away.”
This is true as right now it is below zero ONLY from the Himalayas to Texas and ONLY all of Russia is below zero and ONLY all of Canada is below zero. Winter really is going awaycomment image

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
February 10, 2018 2:18 am

Oh I see that Russia is the largest country and Canada the 2nd largest. And look at that, Greenland is also all below zero and is the largest island on earth.

David Chappell
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
February 10, 2018 9:05 pm

Australians might disagree with you on Greenland being the largest island on earth. And under all that ice, Antarctica is in the running for second largest.

Dave Fair
Reply to  David Chappell
February 11, 2018 11:09 am

Uh, David: Australia and Antarctica are continents, not islands. I’d beware of the ‘thunder from down under’ engendered by your slight.

February 10, 2018 3:19 am

You mentioned the poor high school education of Jessie Diggins. It would seem she could have been indoctrinated by her teachers in Neomarxist dogma such as Diversity, Inclusivity, Equity of Outcome, Systemic Racism, White Privilege & Multigenderism. As such, she has had no opportunity for critical thinking. Becoming psychologically unstable due to cognitive dissonance is poor preparation for her Olympics.

The Reverend Badger
Reply to  Abiogenesis
February 10, 2018 9:24 am

Today I spent a couple of hours (well it is the weekend and its raining outside) encouraging people to think for themselves instead of accepting that everything they read on the internet, and in particular Wikipedia, as the truth. I wasn’t trying to indoctrinate them in any view about any subject, just promote critical thinking not blind acceptance. As this was in multiple internet areas (e.g.blogs and chats) which are fairly left skewed politically it was interesting to see the reaction. Without exception numerous individuals came out of the woodwork to insult me, point out that there were, for example, “no errors on wikipedia of significance” and suggest that I suffered from some kind of mental disorder, etc. Not a single comment in support of critical thinking or thinking for yourself, not one! Shame Richard Feynman is not still around to say something!

DC Cowboy
February 10, 2018 3:59 am

“Climate Change” may not be occurring now, but “Idiocracy” certainly appears to be.

Tom Kennedy
February 10, 2018 5:28 am

Almost every so-called “Environmental Reporter” matches Kendra i.e. “zero science background”, writing emotionally filled articles full of nonsense, usually from some wealthy liberal family, For Example:
Tatiana Schlossberg is a reporter covering climate change and the environment for the Science section of The New York Times. (Kennedy family from Massachusetts)

February 10, 2018 5:29 am

From the article: “And goes on to say “….saving winter is something I believe in. It just breaks my heart because this is such a cool sport, and winter is so amazing and beautiful and I feel like we’re actually really at risk of losing it. And I don’t want my kids to grow up in a world where they’ve never experienced snow because we weren’t responsible enough.”
She must think the Earth is getting ready to turn into the desert planet Dune.
The world must be a really scary place to her. Alarmists have scared millions of people like her with their CAGW propaganda.

February 10, 2018 7:22 am

So many warmnist targets to ridicule, so little time. Thanks for this, Kip.

Curious George
February 10, 2018 7:56 am

@Kendrawrites. She does not read.

February 10, 2018 8:20 am

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February 10, 2018 8:22 am

She is suffering from “future present tense”: because we believe climate will happen in the future (no snow), therefore it is already happening, never mind those photos of deep snow.

February 10, 2018 8:47 am

Why would anyone with sense read the New York Times?
Even if it was free?
If you want to laugh, watch the Three Stooges.

Bruce Cobb
February 10, 2018 8:55 am

Both Kendra and Jessie remind me of this person:comment image

R W Israel
February 10, 2018 10:33 am

When late night TV comedy shows become a major source of information to an entire generation, what else can you expect?

February 10, 2018 10:39 am


Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 10, 2018 1:13 pm

Your post doesn’t seem to be very flattering to “a young American Olympian”. You brought her “perspective views” here for the world to see. Do you have no consideration for such a gentle soul with such an important and forward thing outlook that should be read and revaeled by YOUR and

Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 10, 2018 1:23 pm

Allow me to finish due to erroneously hitting the post button:
Your post doesn’t seem to be very flattering to “a young American Olympian”. You brought her “perspective views” here for the world to see. Do you have no consideration for such a gentle soul with such an important and forward thinking outlook that should be read and revealed by YOUR posting and The New York Times’ climate “newsletter” alerting the public to the most important news about the climate, every two weeks.
Perhaps you could offer cover for the ‘kneelers’ in the professional football leagues, bless their gentle and understanding hearts.

Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 10, 2018 1:33 pm

Furthermore, why did you write this:
“This OpEd is not meant to be taken too seriously.”

Randy Bork
February 10, 2018 10:50 am

“Kendra “Gloom is My Beat” Pierre-Louis” When I read that I damn near did a ‘Danny Thomas spit take!’

Joel O’Bryan
February 10, 2018 6:27 pm

Kendra Gloom — What happens when science reporting is turned over to Bachelor of Arts degrees who’ve been indoctrinated rather than trained in the tools of critical thought and skepticism.

February 10, 2018 9:01 pm

The mid-winter future looks bleak indeed — always Christmas, never winter.

February 11, 2018 4:58 am

The New York Times used to be a respected paper, I subscribed to it for many years, until drivel like this began to appear under its name. Professional journalists used to think critically, now they are just parrots for selected sources and don’t think at all. Thanks Kip, this is an important issue and sites like this must keep hammering away at the dreadful MSM science coverage we see.

John Dowser
February 11, 2018 12:50 pm

Unfortunately for the amused author and commenters, that Olympic cross skier DOES know what she’s talking about. The snow season in Switzerland starts later and ends way earlier over the last few decades. Same for snowfall line. One story about Davos this year does not change the facts. It’s an actual problem for the sport.
Of course if this particular climate change is human induced or permanent, that is another discussion.

Dave Fair
Reply to  John Dowser
February 11, 2018 1:03 pm

John, could you please provide us the data sources for your “The snow season in Switzerland starts later and ends way earlier over the last few decades. Same for snowfall line.”
Thank your ahead of time.

Reply to  Dave Fair
February 11, 2018 2:37 pm

I agree. Would love to see that data re snow in Switzerland.

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