Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t Breitbart – CBC News author Kristen Pyszczyk thinks its outrageous that some parents choose to burden the planet’s climate by having lots of children, when there are lots of migrants who need a new home.
It shouldn’t be taboo to criticize parents for having too many kids
Celebrities Chip and Joanna Gaines took some heat for announcing they are pregnant with their fifth child.
Kristen Pyszczyk · for CBC News · January 14
Chip and Joanna Gaines, stars of HGTV’s Fixer Upper, were probably surprised at the backlash on social media last week that accompanied their announcement of baby number five. I was surprised too.
Not because I disagree with their critics, who admonished the couple for having too many kids, but rather because it’s a sentiment so seldom heard in a society that generally celebrates procreation with almost militant cheerfulness.
While having a child or five is a very personal choice, it’s also a choice that affects everyone who inhabits our planet. So while many people might find the backlash unwarranted, it’s actually a conversation we need to have in order to challenge our uncritical acceptance of the life-fulfillment-through-procreation story.
.@chipgaines swears he can already tell it’s a boy. Look at the little heartbeat!! 🙌🏽❤️❤️ #5 pic.twitter.com/bUwC3T91Cl
— Joanna Gaines (@joannagaines) January 3, 2018
Population control is a fraught topic, and carries with it associations with eugenics and other nasty historical events. But we still need to talk about it, and people who reacted strongly to the Gaines’ pregnancy announcement know this on some level. It’s not an exaggeration to say that the survival of our species depends on it.
In August of last year, New York Magazine published an article claiming we are living through a mass extinction. The article claimed that the earth will be uninhabitable within 100 years due to various consequences of climate change, food shortages and economic and political instability.
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Shame is a powerful tool for changing behaviour: it’s how we introduce new and existing social conventions. It’s unfortunate that Chip and Joanna bore the brunt of changing attitudes, but let’s learn from the reaction and examine our own actions.
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And if the birth rate in Canada declines, so what? As old You-Know-Who cuts off aid to not-for-profits that educate on abortion, restricts immigration and stops sending money to countries that need it, we will have a steady supply of smart and talented immigrants. Their loss, our gain.
Anyway, here’s wishing Chip and Joanna the best!
Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/chip-joanna-gains-pregnancy-1.4481165
My heart goes out to Chip and Joanna. What should be one of the happiest moments of their lives is subject to public bullying by eco-lunes who think the announcement of a woman’s pregnancy is a good opportunity to talk about climate change and population control.
“it’s also a choice that affects everyone who inhabits our planet…” and, regarding having {excess] children …”It’s not an exaggeration to say that the survival of our species depends on it.”
Both of these statements are true ONLY if the resources of the planet are assumed to be finite in the foreseeable future. Of course, at a theoretical level, the existence of anyone (including the author) affects everyone – and everything – else on the planet. But the earth has been that way for a few hundred million years and here we are – evolving along with everything – else making use of what is available.
As far as the survival of our species goes; the ONLY way that is at risk is to allow the birth rate to get too low so that something else takes over. The measure of success of each and every species is to reproduce in competition with everything else, and keep reproducing.
Not just finite, but close to running out as well.
Is there a more distinct signal of “wild exaggeration” than a progressive saying “it’s not an exaggeration to say….”? I’m reading a story of a CA couple who had thirteen children, and it had absolutely zero affect on NEIGHBORS! for crying out loud, never mind the species or planet. If we could use progressive overstatement as a resource (aiming Ms. Pyszczyk’s emissions at a windmill, for instance), resources would approach “infinity and beyond”.
David Suzuki’s Five Kids
http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2010/10/13/david-suzukis-five-kids/
David Suzuki: Canada is ‘Full’
http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2013/07/11/david-suzuki-canada-is-full/
“David Suzuki’s Five Kids” – like I said, they’re the biggest of hypocrites.
“It’s not an exaggeration to say that the survival of our species depends on it.”
No duh. If we stop having babies, the species dies off.
“we will have a steady supply of smart and talented immigrants.”
Starting when?
In the US, starting when Congress passes the RAISE Act.
Incidentally, when I consulted the internet to confirm my assumption, the first entry (beyond “buy the RAISE Act at Amazon”) was Wikipedia who framed it as an “anti-immigration” bill and quoted “economists” saying this would not raise the level of contributions of “immigrants” (and of course ignoring the difference between legal and illegal”).
The Left has told the same lies about everything President Trump has accomplished.
The Left has become the party of lies and deception. Sad thing is, a big part of the country agrees with them and are accomplices.
“The Left has become the party of lies and deception.”
When was it ever anything else?
The difference is that they no longer control the communication channels, so their lies are rapidly exposed.
Opening premise from Idiocracy.
There is no evidence that teaching people about birth control has any impact on birth rates.
The only thing that has ever lowered birth rates has been increasing wealth in the population.
Let me guess. Kristen is,a lesbian athiest that hates her parents.
I don’t care in the slightest what society thinks I have four kids and they can suck it. I have a hard time believing that shame is a powerful tool. Me and everyone are related to which is a large group of people by the way couldn’t care less what anyone thinks is right. We were raised to do what we believe is right and moral; what others think and say mean absolutely nothing to me or my family members. The mere fact they think their opinion matters to me is hilarious.
“I have four kids and they can suck it”
That’s a pretty tough attitude to take towards your own children.
Apparently not everyone got the message. When you calculate the various spellings of Mohammed, it has been the most polpular boys name in many European areas for years. So if you are trying to save the planet by slowing the population growth, bringing in immigrants may not be the best solution.
https://qz.com/1082778/popular-baby-names-muhammad-is-actually-the-most-boys-name-in-england-and-wales-not-oliver/
http://fortune.com/2017/09/22/muhammad-william-popular-baby-names/
https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/01/mohammed-most-popular-name-for-newborn-boys-in-the-netherlands-for-second-year-in-a-row/
Mohammed has been the most common boys name in the capital of Norway for several years….
https://www.nrk.no/ostlandssendingen/mohammed-vanligste-navn-i-oslo-1.11898780
You’d think as unaccomplished as most Muslims are, using Mohammed’s name over and over would be an insult to the memory of their profit.
If immigrants are the key, then perhaps we should consider how to get more Europeans and Buddhists to emigrate throughout the world.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/06/why-muslims-are-the-worlds-fastest-growing-religious-group/
I do believe population in a few generations will start increasing rapidly again. Simply due to natural selection.
Yes – parents who have a genetic tendency towards strong desire to have children will pass this on to their many kids.
According to the WHO 55-56 children are aborted annually. And it is considered to be not enough prevent massive destruction of the environment. How can you reading with people like this.
To everyone who had more than 2 I can say my wife decided one was enough for us so you picking up our slack is greatly appreciated. Have as many as you are willing and able to take responsibility for. Happy diaper changing!!
Kristin Pyszczyk is a RACIST! White people have among the lowest birth rates on the planet, barely replacing themselves. Non whites have higher birth rates and it’s these people whom she is really addressing. (we get your code here K. P.) Notice the cheap appeal to immigration at the end there in a sloppy effort to give herself cover. So what are you going to do, Kristin, to keep those immigrants from having too many babies? Shame them? (or just sterilize them?)…
Whilst I think that 5 children IS excessive it is indeed becoming a serious issue that the dangerous left have created a freak show of shame amongst liberals who hate their own skin and want to replace it with anything from anywhere, the more backward the better! Trace the story back and you come to Critical Theory and the Frankfurt School. What we are dealing with is one of the many pronged attack on Western Society that is the marxist originated Critical Theory (Political correctness) to undermine and ultimately destroy Western democracies. Every aspect of what made our societies in the West to be the pinnacle of human achievement is under attack by the delusionals who call themselves liberals working at the behest of the marxists. The absurdity of what is happening is incredible as is the blindness of whole populations to what is going on blinkered as they are by political correctness. Stalin understood when taking over a country he had as quickly as possible to destabilize the population and he did that by mass importation of Russians. The dull witted virtue signaling mostly socialist politicians of the West have been conned into doing just that and importing people en mass into our countries on a scale which is historically unprecedented. Their gossamer thin ideological excuse is because they claim it will undermine our historical nationalistic based motivation to make war with eachother. But this is so flawed when you see what the overwhelming proportion of those they are importing just happen to be of an ideology which has been trying to take over Europe for 1400 years! Here we are inviting them to come and breed on welfare on a truly massive scale and set up their own bankrupt societies in our midst and we are supposed to smile and celebrate the demise of our own unique culture, our humanist and caring culture because according to the liberal nut jobs, anything is better than that shameful thing. I used to be in business with an Algerian who asked repeatedly “what is wrong with you white people? Why are you trying to dilute your race and remove yourselves from the planet”. He was brutally open about the mess that his society was in but he asked “what is your excuse for wanting to change? You have the best of everything”. He also asked when did any political party in any Western country make this an issue for people to vote on at the ballot box? It has been he said imposed and imposed in such a uniform way right across Western society as to make him believe there is a higher level of command and control above that we see visibly supposedly governing each individual country.
Having 5 children may be excessive, if EVERYONE in your population had 5 children. But you know that is not the case.
BTW, consider using paragraphs. Your comment had some interesting points, but it will be unreadable for most people; they will just skip it. I had to really concentrate to get through it.
“…when did any political party in any Western country make this an issue for people to vote on at the ballot box? It has been he said imposed and imposed in such a uniform way right across Western society as to make him believe there is a higher level of command and control above that we see visibly supposedly governing each individual country.”
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Many people are coming to that view.
not fast enough. it is much worse than the average American realizes. these watermelons are the worst. Chicken Little types worried about unscientific CAGW; they have no understanding this is eugenics couched in self-loathing. Interestingly mirrors the same M.O. of the major players pushing that program.
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Typical. They go on high-falutingly about “conversing”, “talking”, and “learning”, in the same way that Goebbels might have done.
….and yet Goebbels wasn’t interested in learning anything from his victims.
Professing high-minded neutrality and openness to dialogue while expressing highly biased and intolerant views, frequently in the same breath. An all-too-common doublethink of the modern (il)liberal.
Mr. hart: Good point, Ms. Pyszczyk wants to have a conversation about this like Michael Mann wants to have a conversation about CAGW.
Clearly the obvious solution is to outlaw the ownership of pets like cats and dogs then use the freed up un used resources to allow some parents to have bigger families if they want. It’s a win-win really with the added bonus of fewer things to step in. Perhaps a rule you can have 1 pet if you have fewer than 3 children will work. If an unexpected pregnancy occurs you have to either have an abortion or let Rover move to the country to a nice farm. Guess what the majority will choose correctly and you deserve a place in politics.
As we have only one child – stay away from our cat! 🙂
Almost as evil as getting your puppies from breeders, right Kristen. The west will not survive with people like this as mouthpieces.
Or voters.
I thought the US and Canada held the top spots globally for adopting children from struggling nations. So, what is the CBC author talking about again?
Anyone who has examined the biography of Margaret Sanger and the origins of Planned Parenthood knows that they started out in the business of eugenics, and they would like to bring us back there. They are the real N@zie$ in every respect. They hate all people. This foolish reporter only let it out before we were “ready”.
USA and European citizens will have have to accept a lower standard of living in the coming decades (elites exempted).
Soon everyone will want to live in Australia.
We have the ‘right’ immigration policies.
Our key policy is f . . . k off unless you have money.
We’ve done the hard yards unlike your ancestors.
Stay in your country and fix your culture (religious and/or corruption) and economy.
Australia will eventually fix its energy-cost crisis created by the green/left/right (Goldman Sachs) ‘uniparty’.
When it does we won’t look back.
Mass immigration has a purpose and it’s only to benefit a few.
We feel very sorry for y’all . . .
Yes. Rapid mass emigration is usually a true sign of something very bad about the place people come from. So bad that that they can’t fix it themselves, which is what humans usually try to do first if they are not deliberately impeded by reinforced politics. Unfortunately, this happens, and will continue to happen.
But global warmers want to make it worse for poor people in the third world, by making it more expensive to use fossil fuels to make their own lives better by themselves. Maintaining their own culture and dignity by domestic economic growth ought to be viewed as another human right, but the do-gooding global-warmers don’t like people being independent of what the global-warmers and the UN ‘know best’.
The English language has a precise word to describe the harm done to humans by the climate-change global-warming agenda. That word is “pernicious”.
the elephant in the room–all of those European social democracy’s, ( and the USA also) need the emigration (worker bees) to continue funding the extensive government entitlement promises to their rapidly ageing populations. With western birth rate below that needed for population growth, and even stability, there are not enough young coming up to support the government pyramid scheme of massive social welfare.
This is an often cited but fallacious argument used predominantly by the left to brow beat a suspicious indigenous population into accepting the unacceptable. Take the UK as one of many examples. The official current net immigration (add your own multiplier for the illegals), is 250K a year into a country of 70 million which was at 45 million when I was born in 1958. Those people are CONSUMERS of services from schools through to healthcare and most certainly welfare. I know extreme examples can be trashed but the pizza delivery guy with 7 kids all in school all receiving child credit consuming health care consuming welfare consuming social services is adding to a problem not solving it. That this is happening on a massive scale and that the true cost is being hidden from the tax payers is nothing short of a criminal act. If you want to know what this liberal generosity costs then inexplicably Norway, a bastion of socialism provides an insight. They publish the cost of immigration and it is very telling because surprisingly they are not afraid of categorizing the data in a way which is useful and meaningful unlike the UK which buries any data under the weight of political correctness, “We have to hide the data or make it unreadable because heavens above we do not want to give the right wing information that might support their cause”. This is the mindset we have openly at large in Europe. So the bottom line…. importing extended families with the main breadwinner who has little or no education delivering pizza, selling kebabs or driving taxis does NOTHING to solve the plight of an aging population. Instead it it enhances the problem by seriously sucking away resources.at breathtaking speed and any pretence by politicians to say otherwise is shown for what it is by the Norwegian data which is shocking if only because of the cost burden which a relatively small number of professional welfare dependent immigrants can impose on an equally small society.
But that doesn’t work if the population coming in ALSO consumes entitlement resources.
As mentioned below, the entering “worker bees” have to have self sufficiency and something to contribute.
This was US law before 1965 when Ted Kennedy led the change to the “open” immigration philosophy.
“Dependent” immigrants are a boon to the Democrat party.
“the elephant in the room–all of those European social democracy’s, ( and the USA also) need the emigration (worker bees) to continue funding the extensive government entitlement promises to their rapidly ageing populations.”
No, they don’t, because most jobs, particularly low-skilled jobs or those based on knowledge rather than creativity, are going to be automated away over the next couple of decades.
It’s quite literally insane to be bringing millions of new immigrants into a country that’s about to lose tens of millions of jobs. Unless you’re a left-wing politician who needs their votes.
johnny Scott, a link to the norwegian numbers would be good…
“Celebrities Chip and Joanna Gaines took some heat for announcing they are pregnant with their fifth child.”
As far as I know, and from experience, only a female can fall pregnant. I have never been pregnant.
The writer sounds very judgemental.
Yeah, I saw that and found it very strange.
My Dad came from a large family. He had 2 brothers and 8 sisters. They grew up on a farm (cheap labor) during the Great Depression. When my grand parents could no longer work it was the family who took care of them. Not the government.
As one with 3 brothers and 4 sisters I can say its great being in a large family. Made better given that my mother is one of ten and dad one of 4. So lots of close cousins. This is highly recommended. In NZ the birth rate has been in decline for ages, now basically below replacement. There needs to be more encouragement for bigger families among those that can afford more kids, and better financial training for those that can’t afford more kids. Then eventually we might be able to afford our generous welfare state as well as an enhanced natural environment.
Did he not invest in a pension, either state or private ?
Farmers often did not have enough spare cash to put anything away, especially back in the days prior to the great depression when farm productivity was so much lower than it is today.
David Suzuki has five kids, Al Gore has four. The CBC has been the Canadian journalistic organ of green socialism for ages now and needs to stop bleeding taxpayers for this kind of execrable bias-driven garbage.
I’m sure they carbon-offset them though….
CBC is terrible. 100% climate propaganda.
I’ll bet these Libs wouldn’t criticize Muslim families who on average have 4or 5 children.
(they may be dumb, but they ain’t stupid… ☺)
That would be racist /sarc
In Germany, it is too late. The politcally correct immigration culture that Merkel cultivated there is so strong. Now young German girls are “converting” to Islam to have an Muslim boyfriend. So sad. The cultural destruction of Western Europe and everything that Enlightenment from the Dark Ages of religious oppression brought is at hand.
https://youtu.be/UxzSvP8szNI
This is nonsense. Suggesting that one girl’s conversion to Islam is a reflection of the destruction of Western Europe is just barking mad racism. Just because there are crazy far right evangelicals in the US does not mean the country is collapsing. I am aware of people who have moved in both directions, but the ultimate number is so low as to be insignificant.
Insignificant? Until they blow themselves up at a location near you, surely.
“Islam” isn’t a race.