Claim: Deep Fat Friers Are Cooling the Planet

Duck fat French Fries with Rosemary
Duck fat French Fries with Rosemary. By Joy [CC BY 2.0], via Wikimedia Commons

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

According to British researchers, droplets of oil from deep fat friers are measurably contributing to a vast, cooling cloud over big cities, helping to mitigate the damaged caused by global warming; though more research is required to confirm this effect.

Deep fat fryers may help form cooling clouds

By Matt McGrath

Environment correspondent

23 November 2017

Fatty acids released into the air from cooking may contribute to the formation of clouds that cool the climate, say scientists.

Fatty acid molecules comprise about 10% of fine particulates over London, and such particles help seed clouds.

But researchers dismiss the idea that cooking fats could be used as a geo-engineering tool to reduce warming.

Using ultrasonic levitation to hold individual droplets of brine and oleic acid in position, the research team was able to make them float so they could analyse them with a laser beam and X-rays.

The X-rays proved crucial in revealing the inner structure.

“We found these drops could form these self-assembled phases which means these molecules can stay much longer in the atmosphere,” said lead author Dr Christian Pfrang, from the University of Reading.

“These self-assembled structures are highly viscous so instead of having a water droplet you have something that behaves much more like honey, so processes inside the droplet will slow down,” he told BBC News.

“They are resistant to oxidation so they stay around longer, so cloud formation will be easier.”

“If it does have an impact, it is likely to be a cooling one,” said Dr Pfrang.

“And the extent urgently needs further research.”

Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-42081892

All these years food NAZIs have been persecuting lovers of deep fried food, they were ignoring our selfless contribution to saving the planet from climate change.

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November 24, 2017 2:43 am

lol who still uses those?

I’ve not seen one of those in a home for a decade

November 24, 2017 2:43 am

they are the most filthy things!

Robertvd
November 24, 2017 3:31 am

That is why Big cities are always warmer than the surrounding landscape. If this study would be true it would be the other way around wouldn’t it.

Robertvd
Reply to  Robertvd
November 24, 2017 3:35 am

There is also a lot of water vapour emitted when you fry potatoes.

Reply to  Robertvd
November 24, 2017 1:43 pm

yesmore primary GHG

Reply to  Robertvd
November 24, 2017 4:43 am

Ah yes, this explains the heretofore little remarked UCI (Urban Cold Island) effect.

Terry Gednalske
Reply to  Robertvd
November 24, 2017 9:25 am

Further upward adjustments to the recent temperature records are required. In the past, lard was used instead of vegetable oil, and since lard has the opposite effect, past temperature records must be adjusted downward. (sarc.)

Peta of Newark
November 24, 2017 3:32 am

Love the lead photo – and having just been ejected from a Nutrition course here on t’interweb, had been thinking about ‘The Mediterranean Diet’ – something cracked up by our elders/leaders/betters/educators as the very epitome of healthy eating.
Especially as here in Nottinghamshire, they grow A Lot of potatoes. (Quality dirt you see, also why there’s so much coal underneath the place. Its been quality dirt quite some time)

But, and like Trapped Heat, everyone *knows* what it is but if you pick them off one-by-one for an Actual Explanation, you hear a different story every single time.
The very definition of something that is ‘Mythical’ is it not?

So here we see Duck Fat (we get Goose fat in the UK) but looking at Food from The Med, where does all the salami, chorizo, butter, cream, pate, kebabs, Bolognese sauce, cheese pie (pizza) and near countless varieties of cheese fit into the supposed super healthy Med diet?
Have these muppets got cause & effect entirely ass-backwards. Again.

And are a lot of these Mediterranean countries that eat that stuff, the very ones omitted by the increasingly notorious Ancel Keys in his seminal anti-fat study?
Places where they ate shed-loads of fat but lived long lives in rude good health?

Robertvd
Reply to  Peta of Newark
November 24, 2017 3:47 am

In a warm climate the body needs a lot of fat (energy) to cool the body.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Robertvd
November 28, 2017 4:54 pm

If that’s true, I’m good to go for Death Valley!

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Peta of Newark
November 24, 2017 4:53 am

cos it is NOT the fat thats a problem at all or the cholesterol level hype
but the damned sugar in everything processed.
a ketogenic/low carb/sugar diet high in fat wont add cholestrol risks and you lose weight
utterly different from what the accepted medicos push and ruins big pharmas statin goldmine for em;-)

November 24, 2017 4:22 am

Another “confirmation bias” alleged research wasting money and asking for more money.

Weasel words and phrase in bold.

“Deep fat fryers may help form cooling clouds

By Matt McGrath Environment correspondent 23 November 2017

Fatty acids released into the air from cooking may contribute to the formation of clouds that cool the climate, say scientists.

Fatty acid molecules comprise about 10% of fine particulates over London, and such particles help seed clouds.

But researchers dismiss the idea that cooking fats could be used as a geo-engineering tool to reduce warming.

Using ultrasonic levitation to hold individual droplets of brine and oleic acid in position, the research team was able to make them float so they could analyse them with a laser beam and X-rays.

The X-rays proved crucial in revealing the inner structure.

“We found these drops could form these self-assembled phases which means these molecules can stay much longer in the atmosphere,” said lead author Dr Christian Pfrang, from the University of Reading.

“These self-assembled structures are highly viscous so instead of having a water droplet you have something that behaves much more like honey, so processes inside the droplet will slow down,” he told BBC News.

“They are resistant to oxidation so they stay around longer, so cloud formation will be easier.”

If it does have an impact, it is likely to be a cooling one,” said Dr Pfrang.

And the extent urgently needs further research.”

Why is solely deep fat frying targeted?
Any meat that fries, whether grilled, broiled, pan fried, seared. baked, blow torched or even boiled or steamed will release fatty acids; as will thousands of other natural reactions; forest and house fires.

One must wonder whether this is a fake science report that the alleged “environment correspondent” gleefully reported?
It certainly has all of the hallmarks:
• Bafflegab instead of clear concise technical writing.
• Lots of nebulous rather meaningless descriptions.
• Dubious fanciful claims.
• Demand for more research (money, employment and glory).

One suspects this research involves beach resorts and quick fried foods?

One thing is certain, these researchers should research unemployment social protections.

Mr. corresponding environment fool should help them with that research.

pameladragon
Reply to  ATheoK
November 24, 2017 9:53 am

It does sound a lot like something from the Journal of Irreproducable Results…. After all, it is a journal of long standing and scientists write for it, so it must be science, right?

PMK

F. Leghorn
Reply to  ATheoK
November 25, 2017 7:51 am

“Bafflegab” My new favorite word.

paqyfelyc
November 24, 2017 5:25 am

Worthy of ig-Nobel
A butterfly is said to be influential enough, so why not our cooking?

Myron Mesecke
November 24, 2017 6:17 am

I had my gallbladder removed in 1997 which limits how much fried food I can tolerate. I apologize for any warming that lack of an organ has caused.

ossqss
November 24, 2017 7:33 am

SuperSize me please!
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November 24, 2017 7:42 am

Wok about all that Chinese stir-fry?

November 24, 2017 7:43 am

Did the include the effect of the carbon in fat sequestered in our bellies and backsides?

Logoswrench
November 24, 2017 8:26 am

Shit if that’s the case the southern united states should have a layer of permafrost. Lol.

November 24, 2017 10:00 am

I live in Belgium where they claim to have invented the “freetyie”.
And they eat them with mayonnaise!
Maybe that amplifies the effect – “some positive feedback with those fries?”

Reply to  ptolemy2
November 24, 2017 10:35 am

Yes, we invented the “French” fries, which weren’t French at all. Many decennia ago (around 1680) it was used when the rivers were frozen (you know, the Little Ice Age! Not anymore these winters)) and the small fish out of the Meuse river was replaced with potato chips to be fried in oil.

But of course that may be an urban legend, as so many other ones… In any case not “French” as the potato in France was introduced much later than in (Spanish) Flanders of that time. The Spaniards introduced the potatoes from Peru into the parts of Europe under their governance.

Why the term “French” fries? That was mainly due to the first WW when British and their colonies’ troops helped in the trenches of Flanders Fields and tried out what the local soldiers did eat. As in these years the Belgian Army was completely led by French speaking officers, that became “French” fries…

Nigel S
Reply to  Ferdinand Engelbeen
November 24, 2017 4:16 pm

A Jewish immigrant, Joseph Malin, opened the first recorded combined fish-and-chip shop in London in 1860 (1865?); a Mr Lees pioneered the concept in the North of England, in Mossley, in 1863.

Reply to  Ferdinand Engelbeen
November 26, 2017 3:50 am

Malin sounds like a French name.
Was Joseph Malin a Hugenot (protestant refugee from France)?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  ptolemy2
November 24, 2017 5:35 pm

I miss Belgian friets and mayo. Never found mayo to taste anything close to it anywhere else.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  ptolemy2
November 28, 2017 5:02 pm

My sons have the most adventurous nature when it comes to the application of condiments. They will happily consume the oddest combinations. Mayo on fries would be the mildest example. Their go-to selection is mayo, ketchup, honey-mustard dressing, Russian dressing, Parmesan cheese, shredded cheese, honey, and anything Dad has left lying about at dinner time.

Resourceguy
November 24, 2017 10:20 am

More British science on display. Move along.

Nigel S
Reply to  Resourceguy
November 24, 2017 4:14 pm

Britain has more Nobel prizes than any other country per capita.

Nigel S
Reply to  Nigel S
November 24, 2017 4:29 pm

University of Cambridge has more Nobel Prizes than any country apart from USA, (UK obviously) and Germany. Isaac Newton’s college at Cambridge (Trinity) has more Nobel Prizes than any country apart from the above plus France. My college too incidentally.

Some of the alumni …

https://www.trin.cam.ac.uk/alumni/famous-trinity-alumni/notable-alumni/

Resourceguy
Reply to  Nigel S
November 25, 2017 6:19 am

Let’s see the Nobel prize research in climate science from Cambridge. And let’s see the committee transcripts from the Nobel selection process.

Also, two related links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man
https://www.quora.com/Why-did-President-Obama-win-the-Nobel-Peace-Prize

Nigel S
Reply to  Nigel S
November 25, 2017 7:07 am

I assume that you’re relating the Piltdown fraud (part of an academic squabble and nothing to do with Cambridge) to Obama but I’m not sure how or why. There will be a long wait for the Nobel Prize for ‘Climate Science’ I hope. It took 37 years to start to uncover the Piltdown fraud, unfortunately there’s no flourine test for the green blob but we may have reached the end of the beginning.

http://www.nhm.ac.uk/our-science/departments-and-staff/library-and-archives/collections/piltdown-man.html

Of the top ten universities in the world, 5 are in USA, 4 in UK, 1 in Switzerland. Cambridge is rated 3rd for Engineering & Technology, 2nd for Life Sciences & Medicine, 2nd for Natural Sciences (and 2nd for Arts & Humanities).

Sheri
November 24, 2017 10:44 am

“But researchers dismiss the idea that cooking fats could be used as a geo-engineering tool to reduce warming.”

I’m sure we could get volunteers to try it!

jipebe29
November 24, 2017 11:03 am

Long live the Belgians who are the biggest eaters of french fries!

Robertvd
Reply to  jipebe29
November 24, 2017 2:35 pm

The Dutch are the biggest eaters of french fries and frikandellen en kroketten

jipebe29
Reply to  Robertvd
November 28, 2017 2:52 am

OK. Long live the Belgians AND the Dutch, who are the biggest eaters of french fries … and frikanellen en kroketten…

Chris Norman
November 24, 2017 4:28 pm

At last, a link between obesity and climate change. It just had to happen!

marty
November 24, 2017 6:54 pm

I suppose that cars with diesel engines without emission control also contribute significantly to the cooling of the atmosphere, And also the forest fires in California by dust and soot in the atmosphere. So flare off a few more areas, we still have so much rainforest in South America, nobody needs it anyway. Make more dust and soot to save the earth! (Why does VW actually have to pay a fine, which only helps to cool the atmosphere!) 🙂

Resourceguy
Reply to  marty
November 25, 2017 6:29 am

Because they didn’t contribute heavily to the Clinton Foundation / DNC ahead of time.

tom0mason
November 30, 2017 8:27 am

“Two MucBugers, 2 cokes, and two large fries.”
“Sure. And do you want some Climate Change with that?”

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