Friday Funny – ‘Flat Earth researcher’ likely to win a Darwin Award

You’ve all surely heard of the Darwin Awards, where some people remove themselves from the gene pool for the benefit of mankind by taunting natural selection:

Natural selection deems that some individuals serve as a warning to others.   Who are we to disagree? The next generation, ever and anon, is descended from the survivors.

This fellow, one Mike Hughes of California, who bills himself as:

The Only Man in History to Design, Build, and Launch Himself in a Rocket

Mike thinks the Earth is flat, and NOAA, NASA, and everybody else is wrong on that fact. So, to prove it, he’s made a rocket to go to the edge of space to prove it to himself.

In this Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2017, photograph, daredevil/limousine driver Mad Mike Hughes is shown with with his steam-powered rocket constructed out of salvage parts on a five-acre property that he leases in Apple Valley, Cal. Hughes plans to launch his homemade contraption on Saturday near the ghost town of Amboy, Cal., at a speed of roughly 500 miles-per-hour. (Waldo Stakes/HO courtesy of Mad Mike Hughes via AP) (Associated Press)

The launch Winnebago. Photo from Mike Hughes website madmikehughes.com

A story in the Washington Post says:

Hughes is a 61-year-old limo driver who’s spent the last few years building a steam-powered rocket out of salvage parts in his garage. His project has cost him $20,000, which includes Rust-Oleum paint to fancy it up and a motor home he bought on Craigslist that he converted into a ramp.

Besides the fact that limo drivers aren’t generally rocket scientists, there’s only one major problem; he’s used a similar design for his “steam powered rocket” as the infamous Evel Knievel, who tried and failed to launch a similar contraption over the Snake River Canyon back in September 1974.  Stuntman Eddie Braun did successfully zoom over the canyon — using Knievel’s original blueprints — in September 2016.

In a story by BGR, we get a clearer picture:

Mike Hughes, who has made it known that he doesn’t “believe in science,” has built a steam-powered rocket which he intends to ride into the sky. His aim doesn’t seem to be to put the flat earth debate to rest — at the altitude he’ll be reaching, he wouldn’t be able to see much of a curve, and even if he did it’s not like he’d admit it — but rather to promote a flat earth group that is helping to sponsor his flight.

If you’ve ever debated a flat earther online — and if you haven’t, I probably wouldn’t advise it, because logic and reason are completely lost on them — you’ll usually reach a point where one of you says “If we could travel to space you’d see the truth.” The rocket Hughes plans to ride skyward isn’t capable of such a feat, but it’s better than nothing. As for the potential dangers of the flight, he’s well aware of the risks.

“If you’re not scared to death, you’re an idiot,” Hughes explained. “It’s scary as hell, but none of us are getting out of this world alive.” While that may be true, taking your life into your own hands with a steam-powered rocket still requires a mix of guts and stupidity.

Umm, yeah. Looks like steamflunk.

Our friend, Dr. Roy Spencer, recently said on Facebook post that he’d like to nominate Hughes for a Darwin award “pre-humously”.

I second that motion.

Saturday, Nov 25th, while people are watching football and eating turkey leftovers, hughes plans a Pay Per View coverage of his Darwin Award event launch. In my view, he’s just another stuntman with a crazy idea to make fame and money.

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Toneb

A member of the Flat-Earth Society, when asked how many members they had, said …
“Loads – we have members all around the Globe”.

lewispbuckingham

That’s why I am not superstitious, because superstition brings bad luck.

Gary Pearse.

I’ve got a bigger inferiority complex than you have!

😉

Robert from oz

Comedy gold .

Paul r

Shouldn’t he have answered “four corners of the world.”

gnomish

this body-shaming of Gaia has got to stop!

Good one!

Eric

Hahaha!!!!

RockyRoad

I look at the sun (with filter, of course) and it’s round. I look at the moon and it’s also round. Every planet I can see with my telescope is similarly round (not perfectly round, but close enough).

You’d think Flat Earthers could project that shape into 3 dimensions, but apparently not.

I’m wondering what gives Mad Mike Hughes the idea planet Earth, which also appears round from space, the idea that of all celestial bodies the one we live on is FLAT??

…and then there’s his “Mad” honorific.

Yes, but we’ve never seen the other side of the moon… NASA says they have pictures, but they say that men have been there, too, so… ;^)

It must be a flat Globe… I doubt he will be seriously injured simply because that contraption will never get off the ground. Of course if it explodes with him in it…

John in NZ

Is it possible to tell the difference between a person who believes and someone who is winding you up?

gnomish

no
Poe’s Law is the relevant phenomenology

Mat

It’s not a belief, it’s a test in critical thinking. As in who can, and who can’t (aka Open minded vs Bigoted)…

Andy Pattullo

Very good point. He may be smarter than appears and if his goal was free, and widespread publicity, which can be traded for gold, then he has succeeded without ever warming up his sky kettle.

SteveT

Sixty one seems a bit old for the Darwin award, if you are removing yourself from the gene pool does it require having no offspring before your death?

Just a thought.

SteveT

Ed Zuiderwijk

On this evidence he has no kids. If he had he would have more common sense.

BillT

If he had kids he would prolly have removed himself sooner. Insanity is infectious, you catch it from your kids.

Jeff Alberts

Having kids doesn’t require, or produce, common sense.

F. Leghorn

Jeff Alberts on November 24, 2017 at 1:49 pm
Having kids doesn’t require, or produce, common sense.

Yeah, but a lack of common sense often produces kids. Probably why we have so many dumb offspring in the world.

See the movie, “Idiocracy”.

JasonH

He’ll come in nose first about 10ft in front of that truck.

David Chappell

That’s if the boiler doesn’t blow while he’s still on the ramp.

KiwiHeretic

How will he shovel coal into his boiler whilst in flight?? I don’t see a coal scuttle anywhere. Problem right there. He might need a two-man crew… one to shovel and the other to take pictures. Sorry, I meant “two-person” crew. Can’t say “man” anymore as I’m sure it’s a gender-neutral rocket.

rocketscientist

His failure to believe in science, doesn’t seem to stop him from using what little he does know to further his stunt.
Sadly physics is a cruel mistress, like the sea she cares not on whit for your naivete.
I saw an interesting bumper sticker recently:
“NO LIVES MATTER. THE UNIVERSE DOESN’T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOU”

John F. Hultquist

I enjoy science sayings, puns, and jokes, periodically.

Vicus

Ohh. I’m getting that bumper sticker!

AlexB

Does dead matter matter?

joelobryan

JasonH,
That was my thought as well. Boiler with super-heated water for thrust? He has no idea how little sustained thrust he’ll get out thing. Certainly not enough to lift the weight of his contraption and his own weight more than 40-100 feet. Just high enough to be too low for a parachute to save his butt from ground impact.

Ed Zuiderwijk

I bet he has a horseshoe nailed onto the contraption somewhere. One may wonder whether he had the right side up.

Ellen

That’s a silly superstition. But I am reliably informed that horseshoes give luck whether you believe in them or not.

Marnof

It matters very little that he doesn’t “believe in science.” Science believes in him.

vukcevic

Man could be onto something, just take a look at the moon, our nearest heavenly body, it’s flat as a pancake, nothing like as a lump of cheddar cheese.

vukcevic

It’s just a publicity stunt with an attempt to make some money on online ‘pay per view’ comment image?strip=all&w=858

Stephen Skinner

“If you’re not scared to death, you’re an idiot,”
If you’re not scared to death and don’t know what you’re doing and still carry on, you’re still an idiot.

Nigel S

‘A man who is not afraid of the sea will soon be drowned,’ he said, ‘for he will be going out on a day he shouldn’t. But we do be afraid of the sea, and we do only be drownded now and again.’

J M Synge, ‘The Aran Islands’ 1907

Larry D

“Oh Lord, thy sea is so vast, and our ships are so small.”

Notanist

If he really built all that stuff, particularly if he actually gets it into the air, requires a lot more rationality than your average loony-tune is capable of. That said, the difference between an obsession and an enthusiasm is whether you’re observing it or experiencing it, and this guy being all in to the extent that he’s actually going to launch himself off the planet in this thing, that’s going to get a nod of respect from me no matter how insane any of the rest of it turns out to be.

gnomish

yeah- this is the main reason i like people, actually- the best ones create themselves.
i get to see how their sincerest, most assiduous efforts pan out.
all these experiments i might never try – i get to see how they go for free.
authenticity is wonderful.
this is human nature, btw- what distinguishes us from all other creatures on this ball of water with a few dry spots.
revel in it. it’s what makes us great, really.

We know that climate skeptics have been compared to Flat-Earthers. One of the differences is that Flat-Earthers pay no attention to empirical evidence, such as circumnavigation of the globe, while climate skeptics cite previous warm and cold periods during the Holocene that occurred long before humans began emitting CO2 in substantial quantities.

All the guy has to do is buy a round-the-world air ticket and he can determine whether or not the world is a globe or flat just by traveling in the same direction for a couple of weeks. Probably cost less than what he spent on the rocket and launch pad.

Mat

Attempting to falsify that claim, that the Earth is round, is the scientific method. Is it not? As appose to a faith based belief (taking it on faith as most do) that it is round.

gnomish

follow your logic to the ineluctable conclusion mr Colbourne
as it is self evident that he could make that cheap experiment, you must therefore understand that he is not interested in answering that question
why do you mistrust your own reason?

Ben of Houston

Fredrick. It’s both simpler and more complex than that. They consider the Earth to be circular with the Antarctic forming a giant ring around the planet. So, circumnavigation mean only that people can fly or sail in a circle.

However, Just check air flight times throughout the Southern Hemisphere. With this model, A flight from South America to Africa should be ten times the length of one from New York to London. However, it’s not.

it is round.
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like a pizza.

it is round.
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like a pizza.

D. J. Hawkins

@Ben;

I hesitate to ask, but how do they explain the extended arctic/antarctic days and nights? Or even the change in the sun’s elevation as the seasons progress?

Urederra

I read the story a couple of days ago. He already did. This is not his first attempt. In his first attempt, with a smaller rocket, he broke one leg.

Ben of Houston

If he was sending up a camera, I’d call him a dedicated enthusiast. However, he’s quite likely going to get himself killed, and the rocket doesn’t seem to even be capable of proving what he’s trying to show.

Flynn

He already won a WTF award in my books …

And if he has no kids, he’ll soon have no more equipment to make some.

We have to give him credit for having balls now!

rocketscientist

Nope!

Nigel S

The flat earthers are fans of CAGW I understand. Joshua Slocum is said to have been introduced to Paul Kruger as sailing round the world. The response was “Captain Slocum is sailing in the world”.

http://www.cantab.net/users/michael.behrend/ebooks/PlaneTruth/pages/Chapter_06.html

Why are you surprised that Captain Slocum was sailing “in the world” when Mrs Slocum put her pussy into the microwave to dry it out a bit after it had got soaked in the railn.

Sorry, “rain”.

Nigel S

Mrs Slocombe but you’ve (all) done very well. Captain Slocum was an all American hero, much like our host.

“Mrs Slocum put her pussy into the microwave to dry it out a bit after it had got soaked”

Was she a contortionist ?? ( 8-))

Hugs

Our friend, Dr. Roy Spencer, recently said on Facebook post that he’d like to nominate Hughes for a Darwin award “pre-humously”.

Let’s hope the poor man does not kill himself, even if it would serve the gene pool.

ClimateOtter

I don’t get the, errrr, ‘thrust’ of his argument.

Tony Garcia

Flatearther, soon-to-be flatliner.Simple enough?

Adam

Here’s what I don’t get. According to the Washington Post he’s attempting to reach an altitude of 1,800 feet. A plane, on the other hand, will get him to 39,000 feet. Why doesn’t he take some of his $20,000 and just take a plane. Or are those a NASA conspiracy too?

Nigel S

‘Lawnchair Larry’ got to 15,000 feet in 1982.

Ben of Houston

Or if he doesn’t trust any corporations, rent a Hot Air balloon. That will get him far higher than 1,800. Even if he was right and the Earth was flat, he’s thousands of miles away from “the edge” and couldn’t see it if he wanted to.

In a few hours I can drive to 8000 feet up the Sierra Nevada mountains. Cost about $40 round trip.

A few decades back, I drove to 12,000 feet top of the volcano in Hawaii (one of the smaller islands. They rent bikes and you can plunge down the mountain at velocity… extra big brakes… Maui I think…) it was fun to look down on jets landing at the airport and transiting between Islands. Spectacular view and some curvature visible. Cost from California with airfare and hotel ought to be under $1000.

All this leads me to think he is just a thrill seeker looking for a gimmick to fund his toy rocket ride..

MENoll

If he lands on the other side, guess he will have to build another rocket to let us know he was correct.

Don K

There’s pretty much no “other side” around Amboy, CA where he plans to fly this thing. There’s a nice symmetric 80m high volcanic cone, some modest mountains — rugged, but not very high, and a bunch of dry lakebeds. I have a few questions about how he plans to land this thing … assuming that his “planning” has gotten that far.

Craig W

Oh man that’s both funny and sad.
Darwin-Dunning-Kruger effect perhaps?

gnomish

no. no more than is halloween is a manifestation of belief in the supernatural.
it’s fun. it’s performance.
why so serial?

Frederic

“If you’re not scared to death, you’re an idiot,”

Ok, you’re are scared to death, but you still are an idiot.

Mat

Flat Earth is an (a fun) exercise in critical thinking. Attempting to falsify something is after all the scientific method. And like the “it’s OK to be White” postings, it’s one of the great trolling’s of all time. It shows us our own bigoted thinking, in that you’re not as open to certain possibility’s as you might think you are. And that nearly all our beliefs are indeed faith based, in that we have faith in other’s data and conclusions. The blurry line between Nut and Scientist…

rocketscientist

Well if the Earth was flat all the rich tycoons and developers would own all the “rim property” for casinos, hotels, and private estates. The view of the sky would be spectacular!
But if its flat, who lives on the “B” side?

Mike

Does it not rest on a turtle or elephant or something?

Dan Davis

Who lives on the “B” side? – We do!!
Those on the “A” side are something you just can’t believe!

Mark - Helsinki

on a positive note, he’s someone willing to act on his beliefs at great personal risk

On a negative note, he might kill himself.

While I think the guy is misguided based on what I understand myself about astronomy, I will refuse to sneer at him, which is what imo Anthony and Spencer and others are doing.

I really admire you guys, but this kinda leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

How many of you are willing to put your neck on the line for what you believe? (including me)

gnomish

hey- let’s mock rudolf nuryev cuz he thinks he’s a duck!

Peta of Newark

I’m with Mark..
He’s ‘A Character’, he brings people together to talk and think.
He brings and he is ‘Diversity’

And in a world filling up with World blah blah organisations, Internatiaonal this-that-others and all sorts of United and Intergovernmental shyte, so The Lord help us (and this guy not least) – we need diversity.
Are we here ourselves not exactly expressing that?

He is A Hero – in the mould of Eddie The Eagle – England’s best ever ski-jumping champion

And if the world isn’t flat, why do you need a boat or something to pull you along when you do water skiing – huh?

Peta of Newark

And by the guys own website address ‘madmikehughes.com’ he’s well aware he’s out there.

Good luck to him. Hope he makes a few quid just for the entertainment value and his courage to actually do something in life.

NorwegianSceptic

Suicide bombers also put their neck on the line (and the rest of his limbs/organs too) for what they believe in. Just sayin’ ….

Mark T

You mock people like this to serve as reminder to others that sometimes, there are stupid answers. It’s not brave, or commendable, to do something completely devoid of rational thought, something that is actually absurd in every way.

Mark - Helsinki

I would say an idiot is someone who believes something and is not willing to put themselves on the line for those beliefs and would rather put someone else on the line for those beliefs.

Flat earth has religious tones, so does the big bang, believing in both the same kind of misguided belief

NASA’s challenger mission killed Astronauts because of “belief” the dodgy rocket would manage OK, the believers didnt put their own necks on the line, they put the astronauts’ necks on the line.

While misguided, this is in the spirit of old science, using one’s self for experiments to try prove a point, like the guy who proved Ulcers are bacteria by injecticng himself
Just because we dont agree with his theory of a flat earth doesn’t mean we sneer at someone willing to put their own neck on the line.

I hope he succeeds so that he will show once and for all the earth is not flat. I’d rather that than he kills himself, and I certainly do not find it funny, and the academic sneering from Spencer is poor form.

While I get what you are saying….

On a “seriously?” note: I don’t believe that other scientists sold tickets or tried to make money off their experiments to prove their beliefs. Its one thing to test a hypothesis on yourself if it goes against the mainstream and push the boundaries of science. It’s another entirely to make outrageous claims and sell tickets to your folly under the guise of science. One is utilizing the scientific method (albeit in an unconventional way), and the other is selling snake oil.

My money’s on snake oil. This man is nothing more than a wanna be showman with a flimsy even ridiculous platform. I’m going to PROVE the Earth is Flat! Just watch me….more important is the last–watch me, on PAY PER VIEW.

So yes, I will sneer at this idiot. Because what he is doing isn’t science, it isn’t even related to the pioneers of science. He has no altruistic intentions, no burning curiosity that is satisfied, his intention is to make money and prove his convictions as correct. It’s called bias.

Anyone with any kind of scientific training knows how ridiculous this is and can see it for the flim flam it really is. Real science begins with observation, gathering what has been done, what has not been done, questioning why, what, how..etc. Postulating a hypothesis, and it’s counterpart the null. Experimentation, data collection, conclusions–all reproducible and NONE of it to PROVE A SINGLE POINT. Science does not prove anything, science gives evidence either way. No scientist in the world will say they are 100% certain as certainty is a BIG word in science.

Jeff Alberts

“I would say an idiot is someone who believes something and is not willing to put themselves on the line for those beliefs and would rather put someone else on the line for those beliefs.”

That in no way describes an idiot. That describes a hypocrite.

Steam-powered!

Nigel S

Comin’ into Los Angeles
Bringin’ in a couple of keys

by the looks of him.

Twobob

The Hugh’s Fella, needs to be to be carful.
If he upsets the elephants or the turtle,
It could unsettle the world as we know it.
It is life but different.

ozspeaksup

such a pity Terry Pratchetts passed on
he would have loved this
go Discworld;-)
Rincewind and the unseen uni would be happy to assist im sure;-)
lol

Twobob

If he straps a solar panel and a wind generator,
to his missile, he could apply to California guvnor, for a grant.

ACK

I do hope the poor man knows his intended direction of travel. On the evidence of the arrow directions on his rocket, he doesn’t.

Everybody knows the earth is ROUND! Like a pancake!

paqyfelyc

well, this man surely does stupid research, but at least he is doing it properly, with real experiment, not with “model”. IF he succeeded in launching his rocket (obviously it won’t work, alas ; just hope he doesn’t blow himself apart), he WOULD see the rotundity of Earth.
Nothing of the sort can happen regarding CAGW, which as LESS science content that this poor man’s attempt.

Jim Masterson

>>
. . . he WOULD see the rotundity of Earth.
<<

He won’t at 1,800 feet. He wouldn’t at 18,000 feet. Maybe he would at 180,000 feet.

Jim

As you gain altitude, you can see a farther horizon line, thus evidence for curvature, even if you do not see it yet “side to side”. That’s part of why the crow’s nest was on old sailing ships. Just a bit better and farther view. Similarly, the first thing seen on an approaching ship was the top of the mast, then the rest “rises” into view. Need good eyes or optical gear to see it though. We’re talking over a 100 miles and a wooden pole with flag.

I’ve had the experience of seeing the horizon line move out and have never been to 180,000 feet, so I think it happens a lot lower than that. At 12,000 ft looking out to sea from a volcano top I remember thinking there was some slight curvature observable. I suppose it might have been seeing what I expected; seeing the curvature of the horizon line not the “edge” of the earth… but that curved horizon line is a product of the curved earth… on a flat earth, any altitude ought to result in the horizon reaching the edge, once clear of local obstacles.

commieBob

In my view, he’s just another stuntman with a crazy idea to make fame and money.

The ‘crazy’ part is important. It’s about showmanship. As Gorgeous George told Cassius Clay:

… always be outrageous.

link

If lots of people pay good money to watch the stunt then he’s succeeded.

Steve from Rockwood

Who is crazy, the guy who claims the Earth is flat, or the thousands of people who show up to see if he is right?

Jim Masterson

It’s hard to not look at a train wreck– especially one happening before your eyes.

Jim

This is one of flat earth proofs

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/235a73b625789cbbed839be87c3aa41c

Looks like he’ll need to stock enough fuel to pass the edge

Let’s try again
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He can perhaps greet the ship of fools on his round trip back.

Mark - Helsinki

Finnish religious flat earthers going by this map think they are the actual center of the universe almost 😛

to be fair to the flat earthers, they have slightly better arguments than that, many of which seem quite plausible to not so enlightened but honestly non conspiratorial people.

Same with the man made CO2 climate change “theory”, in many ways it has similarities to the flat earth theory in how it is presented to an unwitting victim :D.

F. Leghorn

I don’t understand what would make the Arctic cold if it were in the center. And what would make the sun go around in a circle? And what makes it go away at night? And only over part of the earth? Just how small and close to the earth is it?

Sorry for the pontificating on an idiotic subject.

Shawn Marshall

One can stand at the seashore easily see the curvature of the earth – and then calculate by the disappearing mast trick as the Greeks did – but there is no fame and fortune in that.
Hope the trickster lands safely and invents another gag.

Bruce Cobb

The “flat-earth” angle is simply part of the funding for this foolishness, and part of the schtick. I don’t believe for one second that he actually believes in a flat-earth. He’s an Evel Knievel wannabe, out for fame and hopefully fortune. Yes, it’s crude, stupid, and somewhat crass, but in a weird way it’s also very American. I wish him luck, and hope he doesn’t get killed in the process.

vukcevic

no need for any concerned.
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Jer0me

The Only Man in History to Design, Build, and Launch Himself in a Rocket

I’m sure others have said the same, but I’m pretty sure this is not accurate. I recall at least one instance of a Chinese guy building one and firing himself off after the invention of gunpowder?

I think it ended badly as such ventures are likely to…

Roger Graves

But why shouldn’t flat Earth be the accepted theory? Give me control of all research funding and I will guarantee to have the scientific establishment espousing flat Earth theory within a year or two. Here’s how it would work.

First, I would cause all research funding in anything to do with Earth sciences to suddenly dry up, and let it be known that the funding gatekeepers were interested in flat earth theory. It wouldn’t be stated so bluntly of course. Dear me, no. It would be stated perhaps as a need for a critical re-examination of the geosphericity paradigm. Sooner or later, some ambitious young man or woman would take the bait, and wham – they would find themselves with so much research funding they would be able to open their very own research institute with a staff of a couple of dozen or so, and a quiet understanding that all of it would disappear if they failed to produce a stream of research papers supporting flat Earth theory. At this point all the other ambitious academics out there would get the idea and start queuing up for their research funding.

As to the rest of it – ousting old-school journal editors and replacing them with flat-Earth friendly editors, ensuring that peer review is done only by your pals, and so on, the trail has already been blazed by the CAGW crew. Nothing to it!

Ben W.

Uh, Evel Knievel already did the steam rocket thing. . . about 44 years ago. . .

Mark T

I don’t believe he did the actual design, the the difference is somewhat pedantic.

He may cool the Earth to space by hitting the convection preventing, heat trapping CACA gas firmament.
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Mark - Helsinki

I think the “ISS is in a swimming pool” is the craziest part of the flat earth claims tbh.

Ian Macdonald

Not sure you could tell from a suborbital flight anyway. I believe the view from the ISS is not immediately conclusive as it’s still much closer than the Earth’s diameter; the roundness is only apparent if you watch long enough to see that stuff is going past. Apollo 8 gave us the first full view of the Earth from space as a globe, and in some ways that stole the show from visiting the.moon.

The fact that the horizon is curved at sea is inconclusive since it would look much the same if the horizon were the edge of a disc.

Mark T

But a ship’s mast dropping below the horizon as it went out to sea certainly would not be the same if the earth was a disk. Nor could it be explained if the effect appeared at every beach, since not all can possibly be on the edge.

Javier

I don’t know about flat earth, but he is going to get a flat face.

Steve Oregon

When I first read a story reporting this guy’s silly stunt I was more struck by the idiots in the comment section who had been duped into feeling compelled to explain how they know the earth is not flat.

“If you’ve ever debated a flat earther online …”

Must be like debating a climate alarmist.

Gotta love these wild self-promoters! Really…this guy raised enough money and found sponsors, built a rocket (of sorts), converted a motor home…..terrific. He has been, unfortunately, born a hundred or so years too late….in 1867 he would have been lauded a genius adventurer.

So, amusement may be appropriate — but you have got to give the guy credit — he does more than just sit in his armchair and write snarky comments on blogs.

Earthling2

I sometimes wonder if the flat earther’s really believe it, or whether the whole schtick is just some comedy act amongst comrades, in defiance of modernity? I have known a few, and my take was that they are just messing with us. Although, some of them thought the world was only 6,000 years old too, and seemed to be deadly serious about that and had a whole library of books to prove it. I guess we just don’t know what goes on inside some people’s heads.

Simon

“Mike thinks the Earth is flat, and NOAA, NASA, and everybody else is wrong on that fact.”
Does it not seem ironic that people here are laughing at this guy, because he doesn’t accept what NOAA and NASA above are saying, but are happy to disagree with them when it comes to what they have to say about the affect of CO2 on our warming planet?

Hugs

I’m bigger than that, said Garfield.

Spencer analyses satellite data. Those things that orbit the globe. I don’t see any irony there. What I see from your side is misunderstanding what is skeptism and what is, err…, stunting.

Simon

But But But… Spencer doesn’t dispute that we are warming and that CO2 plays a part in that. His satellite data is showing a whole lot more warming lately too.

Ugh….how’s he going to land?

Ken Mitchell

The ONLY way this makes sense is if “Mad Mike” is engaged in a spectacular attempt to fake his own death.

In the several articles on this guy I have read, I have not read that he thinks the earth is flat. It would appear that his main sponsor is “Research Flat Earth”. Just because his main sponsor thinks the earth is flat does not necessarily mean that he does.

Wait. Consider. What -if- he gets to the edge and then explodes? Wouldn’t the resulting explosion tip the rest of us into one corner? He must be stopped no matter how infinitesimal the possibility because of the potential dire consequences. Just. Like. Climate. Alarmism.

Cointreau

I’m a regular reader of this site and I believe global warming is a massive hoax. I also believe that conventional science is barmy. I struggle to believe that the Earth spins around at 1000 mph while our
atmosphere stays glued to it by magic gravity,
I struggle to believe the big bang theory. as well. Our sun is supposedly orbiting the center of our galaxy
at 514k mph, so how is the Earth able to orbit this speeding bullet? Relative motion? The moon landings
were an obvious hoax. Rockets cannot work in the vacuum of space. Ships do not dip below the horizon
and if you can see buildings from 80 miles away then where is the Earth’s curvature? I also think NASA
is a joke.

donald penman

I think that the fact that you can see further when you climb a high building would indicate that the earth is curved ,assuming there are no hills in the way etc. , because if it was flat you would not be able to see any further . I think he will be able to see further if his attempt comes off this is clear unlike the nonsense we are being told about global warming and computer modelling. I think it is clear from reading the article that he is only saying that he thinks the earth could be flat to get sponsorship for his attempt. It is very wrong to accuse someone of being stupid just because they are prepared to do something dangerous people who climb mountains should be regarded as stupid in that case.

BallBounces

Dr. Spencer has a great sense of humous!

Kassandra

Wouldn’t a hot air balloon be a lot easier?