Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
Well, I wrote about this crazy March For Science idea two months ago, but the story just gets better. Far and away the most insightful comment I’ve read on this goofy idea of marching was from a climate scientist I respect, Dr. Roger Pielke Jr., who said:
The smartest people on the planet want to oppose Trump & the best they can come up with is a march in support of themselves?
Hard to argue with that … but since then there have been two developments.
One was the announcement that the March For Science will be led by none other than Bill Nye the Science Guy. We’ve discussed his wondrous views about science before.
Of course, this appointment of Bill Nye led to many people pointing and laughing. With all of the distinguished scientists in the country, the idea of picking Bill Nye as the honorary poster boy for the march is hilarious.
But wait, it gets better. In the sadly common Blue-On-Blue violence of identity politics, there’s been a new protest. This protest is not because Bill Nye lacks credibility. Nor is the protest because Bill Nye lacks credentials or cranial horsepower. And the protest is not because Bill Nye lacks support in the scientific community.
Nope.
This protest is because Bill Nye lacks melanin.
Seriously. You can’t possibly make this up. If I were Bill Nye, I’d go straight to the ACLU and get them to file an anti-discrimination lawsuit. What the organizers have done is a criminal offense under the ADA, the Americans with Disabilities Act. It’s clearly against the law to discriminate against the melanin-deficient, that’s just cruel.
It gets better. The protest is not just because Bill Nye lacks melanin. He’s also guilty of being short of another even more important requirement.
Bill Nye lacks that scientific necessity, the vital XX chromosome.
So in the wonderful American non-tradition of everyone getting a Participation Trophy, the March Organizing Committee has added two more “Honorary Co-Poster Children” or some title like that as Co-Leaderpersons of the March. Of course, neither of these new Co-Coordinationizers lacks those vital scientific elements of melanin and XX chromosomes.
Now, please be clear what I’m saying. I’m not dissing the two new Co-Non-Gender-Titled-People in any sense. I’m sure that both of the women named as Honorary Co-Chairpersonages, Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha, the Iraqi-English pediatrician who exposed the Flint lead contamination, and Dr. Lydia Villa-Komaroff, a Hispanic biologist and businesswoman, are good scientists and well-intentioned people.
I’m just pointing out that this is another in the many pieces of evidence that this is a March For Political Correctness, not a March For Science in any sense. Opportunity wasted. Get ready for impassioned speeches from all the extremely scientific co-ordinatrices.
Prepare for impassioned speeches from a bunch of extremely scientific spokesdudes and spokesmodels on how Trump hates water and air, and how spending $ Trillions with a T to cool the earth by 0.1°C in fifty years is a scientifically brilliant plan supported by 97% of all true moral noble and upstanding humanoids everywhere. Amen.
Oh, and if you disagree, think of the grandchildren, because compassion, and besides you’re just a hater and a scientific troglodyte, because 97%.
I put the over/under of someone passing out white lab coats along the march route at 100%.
March for science? … I don’t think so.
A rainy day here, more rain on the way. The forest is happy. The cat is not happy.
Me, I’m overjoyed, and I can only wish the same for you.
w.
PS—When you comment on someone’s ideas, I request that you please QUOTE THE EXACT WORDS YOU ARE REFERRING TO. That way, we can all understand what you are discussing. I can defend my words. I can’t defend your words about my words.
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Only lefties could struggle like this for their rights not to have to struggle so booting them onto the dole will really see them in their element.
I know Roger was lampooning them when he said: “The smartest people on the planet…” But, I have no doubt that most of them (i.e., academics) are sure they fit that category.
Let the March of the Narcissists begin. Everyone line up in front, since none want to be second or third in line.
I still say someone should attend the March with video camera in hand. Ask the participants their occupation and see how many are really scientists. Then give everyone a fun little Climate Quiz, asking them how fast sea levels are rising or what percentage of CO2 added to the atmosphere each year is due to human activity. I am willing to wager less than 50% will be scientists (if that) and none will answer the questions correctly.
The march has been taken over by the left. There was a bit of a fuss about this last week. It’s certainly not about Science.
They’ve renamed it to “March for Science, Justice, and Jobs” — – seriously
Naw, Bill, that’s the “March for Climate, Justice, and Jobs”. It’s the following week, on April 29th. The March Against Science is April 22nd.
The March for Climate, Justice, and Jobs is being put on by the Peoples Climate Movement. Their motto is:
w.
So this could strive for the Million Man (person) March and also invite Black Lives Matter too.
w. ==> Are you sure about Nye’s chromosomal makeup? or his ancestry? How would we know?
If you asked this crowd of scientists “What is blackbody radiation?” they’d likely say ‘some neutron bomb that targets only African Americans.’
I would suggest March of the Penguins, but that might include unpleasant low temps and smells.
Willis, are you saying that Mr. Nye is an albino? If you’re not, as someone who has looked at skin sections, I have a bit of a story to tell. You see, white people don’t lack melanin relative to their darker shaded cousins. Aside from melanin type differences, you see, the skin shade is dependent on depth of penetration, not total amount of melanin in the skin.
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It especially galls me that the left, having seized the commanding heights of culture including academia, should not merely quash diversity but blithely deny doing so.
Climate “Science” Pillars of Sand; Eroding the Foundation of the Hoax
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2017/04/08/climate-science-pillars-of-sand-eroding-the-foundation-of-the-hoax/
of all the ways to criticize these marches, this attempt to dismiss it outright based on nothing at all is about the weakest i’ve read. that’s too bad, because a good critique is needed, i think
We will await your good critique.
Awesome as usual, and in some circles, always
mikewaite April 7, 2017 at 4:35 am
You also failed to notice that there are no humans native to the Americas, so there are no Native Americans. They’d like you to believe that, but they are actually Early Asian Immigrants …
From my understanding, if you were captured in war by the Pawnee or the Iriquois you’d find out that the Early Asian Immigrants had plenty of novel ways to kill each other. Roasted over a slow fire was a favorite, as was staking on an anthill …
I find your historical “noble savage” claims to be … well … less than historically accurate.
w.
The Aztec Empire was unusual in being based upon cannibalism rather than permanent conquest of territory. It needed to keep its enemy states independent in order to capture their warriors for sacrifice in their temples. That’s why Cortez found so many willing allies, like the Tlaxcalans.
South America tribes conquered by the Incas were also glad to side with the Spanish against their overlords.
The Caribs, from whom we get both the Caribbean Sea and the word “cannibal”, were similarly eating their way up the Antilles, consuming more peaceable local island tribes, when Columbus and company arrived.
There was more or less constant warfare among Indian confederations of the Atlantic Seaboard of the US at the time of contact, as well. In the north, Indians killed Eskimos wherever they found them. They even killed the women instead of enslaving them, but took their dogs.
In South and Central America you have plenty of examples of narco-cultures. Psychopathic, idolatrous, violent. But within those cultures were often older traditions which were not like that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Falls_massacre
The memoirs of Hudson’s Bay Company “servant” Samuel Hearne are essential for anyone with an interest in the North:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110612042514/http://www.uwo.ca/english/canadianpoetry/eng%20274e/hearne.htm
“… a young (Eskimo) girl, seemingly about eighteen years of age, [was] killed so near me, that when the first spear was stuck into her side she fell down at my feet, and twisted round my legs, so that it was with difficulty that I could disengage myself from her dying grasps. As two Indian men pursued this unfortunate victim, I solicited very hard for her life; but the murderers made no reply till they had stuck both their spears through her body … even at this hour I cannot reflect on the transactions of that horrid day without shedding tears.”
The Dene and Chipewyan Indians told Hearne they would do the same to him if he wanted an Eskimo wife, so there was nothing he could do to save the girl or any of the other approximately 20 Copper Inuit slaughtered.
Zeke,
Non-warlike tribes didn’t last long. For every peaceful group there are more like the Amazonian Yanamamo, who pride themselves on their ferocity.
The Sioux took advantage of the horse and firearms to move out onto the Plains from Minnesota, subduing the tribes who already lived there. Blackfoot Indians did the same in Canada and the Northern US Rockies, thanks to trade connections with the Europeans.
The Americas were no more peaceful than Europe, Asia, Africa, the Pacific (a misnomer) or anywhere else. Dunno about Australia.
Just as you say, Gloateous. My children are part Blackfoot, and part Viking and they do sometimes make me nervous. (:
The number of Native American Indian languages spoken in NA at the time of the colonists’ arrival has been estimated at 2-3000. Each tribe had particular ways of life, and there were many who had some form of agriculture or settled fishing life. On the other end of the spectrum were raiders and gamblers. Many of these were expansionist, so the smaller nations will always have trouble existing next to larger ones. Same as in Europe. Look at Estonia.
In some cases the settlers were asked for help against the raiding, ruthless tribes. For example, the Pequot of Connecticut. Some tribes turned to the English, others turned to the French. So sometimes the gentler, conjugial, more civilized tribes were the survivors.
ref below.
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“A river having overflowed its banks, two Pots were carried along in the stream, one made of Earthenware and the other of Brass. “Well, brother, since we share the same fate, let us go along together,” cried the Brazen Pot to the Earthen one. “No, no!” replied the latter in a great fright; “keep off whatever you do, for if you knock against me, or I against you, it will be all over with me–to the bottom I shall go.”
Moral
Equals make the best friends.
http://fablesofaesop.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/0038twojars.jpg
I’d be nervous, too. My first wife was part Blackfoot. I’m part Powhatan. But mostly European, the winners in most of the wars for the continent.
True that the peaceful Hopi have somehow miraculously survived, but the Navajo invaders now far outnumber them.
The Hurons adopted Christianity and were wiped out in the Beaver Wars by the Iroquois Confederacy.
At most places, in most times, most tribes have been more or less fierce. There’s a reason why, among our closest kin, warlike common chimps are more widespread than their more peaceable cousins the bonobos. Humans, like chimps, are ferocious animals, killing and dismembering (not necessarily in that order) not just their prey species (monkeys and bush babies in the case of chimps), but intruders of their own species.
The whole “noble savage” thing.
They were men with all the same vices and faults every other man …er…”person”..(gotta stay “PC”).. has.
What they didn’t have was the technology to make their inherent evil more effective.
I think they are considered “noble” because their level of technology, theoretically, did less harm to Ma’ Gaia.
They did “less harm” because it took a lot of work to get what they needed to live. Before the Spanish re-introduced the horse to North America, some of these “noble savages” would drive herds of animals over cliffs, harvest what they could and leave the rest to rot.
After the horse, they could killed what they needed. Before the horse they did the same thing. They just had to kill a lot more critters.
What kind of idiots think that an “indigenous tribe” is better off without being exposed to civilization?
Exposure to new diseases? OK. Valid point. We have shots for that.
Leave them “primitive” so we can study them? The “Prime Directive” is a Star Trek fantasy.
“What about the(ir) children!”
PS Along with burning and ant hills, there are records of these noble innocents slicing open a belly, tying the intestines around a tree and then forcing the victim to walk around it.
http://lidblog.com/heh-march-of-science-doesnt-want-bill-nye-because-hes-white/
“While Nye is an old white man, he is not a scientist. He has a B.S. in mechanical engineering from Cornell University, and worked at Boeing in the mechanical engineering department. His entry into TV was not because of any science expertise but because he won a Steve Martin look-alike contest and began moonlight as a stand-up comic by night. Eventually he quit Boeing and became a comedy writer and performer on a sketch comedy television show in Seattle, Washington, called Almost Live! The host of the show, Ross Shafer, suggested he do some scientific demonstrations in a six-minute segment, and take on the nickname “The Science Guy”. That’s right the Science Guy persona began in a comedy sketch and now he’s joke. In other words, Nye’s qualifications as a scientist are based on the fact that he looked like Steve Martin and did comedy about science. If he looked like Rodney Dangerfield, Nye might still be working as a mechanical engineer and have some respect.”
Thanks. I really didn’t want to know that but okay.
Such a pity he left engineering… or is it actually a blessing? Was there a commensurate decrease in Boeing aircraft failures in the ensuing years?
Willis: Permanent drought. Do you hear me? PERMANENT drought. OK, I know..the noise from the continuing rain is making it hard for you to hear me. I’ll shout it at you in a year or two, when it stops raining.
HEY, there!! Bill’s not lacking in cranial capacity (there’s a whole lot of empty space up there… LOT’s of capacity!). He’s just encephalogramatically challenged!
We’re getting a welcome drop of that non-existent because of AGW rain here right now. Cold weather today but gotta love that tapdancing on the old tin roof.
March of the Science and Forecast Hoaxers
A remnant of Obama era, social justice = science.