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Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Climate doomsday stories are now such a joke, even Mainstream Media can’t help having a pop.
CHRISTMARS CHEER Humanity DOOMED because Earth is destined to become lifeless red planet just like Mars, scientist warns
Our home world is losing its atmosphere with every second that passes, meaning that every living being is in peril.
EARTH is slowly turning into a barren red world just like Mars and it spells DOOM for every living being on the planet.
That’s the terrifying warning from a top scientist who wants our species to wake up to the grim fate awaiting us.
Anjali Tripathi, an astrophysicist at Harvard University, has spoken out about a “frightening” natural effect called atmospheric escape.
In a recent TED talk, she said that 400 pounds of hydrogen and almost 6.6 pounds of helium escape from Earth into space with every single minute that passes.
Eventually, this will cause such a massive change in the makeup of Earth’s atmosphere that life will be unable to cling on any longer and the surface will be become blood red and barren.
…
“Our hydrogen from water breaking down will escape into space more rapidly, leaving us with a dry, reddish planet.”
Happily, we have a few billion years left until this grim scenario plays out, so we’ve plenty of time to prepare for the inevitable apocalypse.
Merry Christmas everyone.
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Merry Christmas from Australia.
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The story today about sharks eating polar bears because of Climate Change was funnier.
Oh that’s ok, because the sharks are too treaded by extinction…
Merry Christmas
“treaded by extinction”
How big are extinction’s boots?
Was it just sharks or a sharknado? 😊
Given the nature of the polar vortex, probably a Sharkicane
Or maybe these
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=9Bz-AWQ97d8
Or possibly these
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=D6D-UpbN7Uk
What about the freakin’ lasers?
Now THAT would be a sharkicane!
Without our Earth’s magnetosphere shielding the top of the atmosphere from the most severe ablative effects of the solar wind, it would be far worse. Estimates of Mars vary widely. But measured Mars deuterium-hydrogen ratio suggests strongly that much ablative loss of the dissociated hydrogen has occurred where deuterium (with a neutron) is retained little more readily such that over geologic time the D/H ratio drops dramatically.
It is through the D/H ratio studies that sceintists can infer how much hydrogen losses to space have occurred.
eerr sorry, Hydrogen is lost more readily than Deuterium as I said, so it is the H/D ratio that drops. D/H increases. Said another way, Deuterium becomes more abundant relative to hydrogen over time.
Drake forgot to add the fm to his equation, where fm is the planet’s magnetosphere is vital for life. The value of fm could be between 1/10 to 1/1000.
The Earth is lucky, since our core is much larger than most planets it’s size.
This is thought to be the result of a collision between the proto-earth and a Mars sized planet early in the Earth’s development. As a result of the collision, much of the crust from the two planets became the Moon and the cores of the two planets coalesced to form the Earth’s core.
Mar’s much smaller core cooled of millions of years ago resulting in it losing it’s atmosphere.
I have always wondered about the inputs into the Drake equation – my estimates for intelligent life currently existing in the Milky Way are quite conservative at 10. But you raise a very important point with regards to the ability of each individual planet to be able to “defend and protect” the life on the planet.
There are probably an incredible number of planets that have microbial life, but very few that have evolved into the ability to both create, and sustain, intelligent life.
Given the number of Al Gore’s and Leo Dicaprio’s on this planet, I challenge that we have evolved to the “intelligent” realm ……
How much does the solar wind contribute to Earth?
And, with biogenic production of carbon and hydrogen in Earth’s core, these loses become minor.
And the sun is losing 4.4 million tonnes of itself every second! (But I need more grant monies to verify this).
Piker. You should be asking for 4.4 million tonnes of money to reverse the loss. Think of the children.
You could probably get your grant money if you went to Venezuela, where they measure money by weight.
My parents and grandparents were all astronomers. Growing up, I got to listen to them talk about the end of the sun (all stars die eventually or blow up) and the end of the universe (is it flying apart or collecting into giant black holes and then blowing up?) and I assumed when only a child, we are all doomed! DOOMED!
Eventually. Whether by fire or ice, whatever happens, we are doomed. A great way to grow up, knowing this secret information! Thanks for the latest ‘We are doomed!’ story, WUWT.
there is a book with the answer. It is a little sketchy to figure out the timeline, but all the usual suspects are there – blazing solar radiation, plague, fish kills, and so on – everything except the flooding. And the writer figured this out 2,000 years ago. with no budget.
How much of thqt is intercepted by Earth?
About 2.2 kilograms
I guess I need to get my YT-1300 ready to go. Dang hunk of junk.
My DeLorean DMC-12 is still working ok, As long as the flux capacitor holds out, I’ll just keep winding the clock back.
See yo all again younger !
If the Watermelons have their way, you’ll never be able to charge it up to the 1.2GW you need.
Yea, camel dung fired generators just don’t give ya the kick you need!
And yet the space dust, including meteorites just keeps sifting down.
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all…
The crying wolf Prophets of Doom:
“Entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.” -Noel Brown, ex UNEP Director, 1989
“A billion people could die from global warming by 2020.” -John Holdren, Obama’s current Science Czar, 1986
“By 1995 somewhere between 75 and 85 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.” -leftist Senator Gaylord Nelson, 1970
“[Inaction will cause]… by the turn of the century [2000], an ecological catastrophe which will witness devastation as complete, as irreversible as any nuclear holocaust.” -Mustafa Tolba, 1982, former Executive Director of the United Nations Environment Program
“In twenty years [2008] the West Side Highway [and thus much of Manhattan] will be under water.” -James Hansen, 1988, NASA
“[Because of an imminent ICE AGE] .. even more dramatic results are possible, however; for instance, a sudden outward slumping in the Antarctic ice cap, induced by added weight, could generate a tidal wave of proportions unprecedented in recorded history.” -John Holdren, 1971
Hey Eric, Merry Christmas to you too from Urangan.
..and reality is just a shared hallucination
http://reactor-core.org/reality-hallucination.htmlhttp://reactor-core.org/reality-hallucination.html
http://reactor-core.org/reality-hallucination.html
I keep telling people! We are all going to die in a fiery flood under a sheet of lava ice after the asteroid hits! No one will believe me! Why won’t anyone believe me! I have a sandwich board sign and everything!!!!!!! My beard is a bit short, but hey, I am working on that.
Try losing the tinfoil hat, 2Hotel9. It’s an anachronism with your sack-cloth habit and sandals.
Since 2hotel9 was predicting lava-ice, one presumes a /sarc tag was intended.
Hey, the ladies think it is rakish and debonair. And it makes up for the short beard!
Hey, I missed that one, got too many incoming at once.
Thanks you just ruined my Christmas, now I’ll be worrying about the end of the earth in a billion years .
Must I add the sarc ?
No.
Merry Christmas.
Relax. It’s actually a few billion.
Hmmmm, I am thinking that our nuclear furnace that currently converts (majority) of hydrogen into helium will win the race, given that the energy output increases by ~10% per 100 million years. I thought that the temperature (and be my guest, call it “climate change!” – LOL) on earth would increase to the point that the temperature would be too high in ~500 million to 1 billion years.
But I am not too fussed, if I make it through 2017 with the idiotic socialist government we have in Alberta, Canada, and their wonderful carbon tax coming on-stream on January 1, well, I will be quite happy.
Merry Christmas to all, currently a BEAUTIFUL -13 C (+9 F) in Calgary, Alberta, and loving it!!!
Climate alarmism is based on a lack of perspective. Usually it is extrapolating from an imagined trend on a couple of years of data, or a model based on how the world falls away from an imagined perfection. If we are all doomed, then the only option is for each of us to live life to full, making the best of the time we have. The doom-laden writer of Ecclesiastes worked this out more than 2,500 years ago. What is happening to the life on Earth in a billion years is irrelevant to the people reading this blog, or many generations that will succeed us. Christmastime is an especially time to celebrate what we have, with our families and friends. So I wish one and all the very best wishes for the holidays and may your New Years be fulfilling and prosperous – as a least a little better than the last year.
Una Salus Victis Nullam Sperare Salutem. Pretty much says it all.
yeah, yeah, whatever… Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes
I don’t know, Davey. Quite a few people would argue with you on that, applied to me, at least.
Davey And Goliath? The stop action animated show from the ’70s? Made currently relevant by The Simpsons? Am I that far ahead or behind the curve? Never can quite get that one figured out. 😉
Davey? lol.
I thought you meant Davey from ‘Adventure Time’.
A sadly under rated show! My son turned me on to it by linking me a PewDiePie podcast that discussed it. Not on a level with Futurama but still darned good.
Venienti occurrite morbo
Kittens give Morbo gas!
@ur momisugly SMC Too right.
Gere, vestri pænula
I said we were doomed.
And if the atmospheric loss does not happen, the Sun will eventually go red giant and engulf Earth in 4 or 5 billion years.
The sun is getting brighter as it ages. In a mere 500 million years, this will push the inner edge of the Goldilocks Zone out past Earth’s orbit, so atmospheric erosion is a non-problem. Especially since the infall of meteors (ice to iron) exceeds the rate of loss.
I read that we can use the so called sling shot effect that they use to speed up satellites in reverse to transfer energy from space rocks to the earth. The article I read estimated that one 100 ft diameter rock every century our so would be sufficient.
Jeezo-piezo! maybe venus is doing the same thing at a much higher rate (due to its solar proximity) and will achieve a radiative balance like present-day Earth about the same time as Earth mimics present day Mars. If man hasn’t figured out interplanetary travel by then, we’re screwed.
It’s ok, I have some land I am developing around one of the planets of Proxima Centauri,
You might need some good sunscreen though.
Bah. We’ll all be dead in “only” a million years when three stars will pass closely enough to our Sun to disrupt the Oort cloud and throw a barrage of cometary bodies into the inner solar system. Assuming, of course, that the black star Nemesis or the planet Nibiru or Planet X doesn’t do it to us first.
Finally! Someone gets it. We are all going to die in a fiery flood under a sheet of lava ice after the asteroid hits! Glad we have reached a consensus. Now. How do we profit from it?
Sell shaved ice snow cones dyed green and red? Made in a freezer that uses Freon as a refrigerant?
Green on the outside and red in the center! I like it.
2hotel9, I have got a really good freezer we could market, it runs on geothermal,
We got to think Mikee Mann big here, come up with a snazzy graph that will get the tax dollars rollin’ in!
OMG, now YOU have stirred up the epitome of a hornet’s nest! The billionaire Al Gore will be all over it, to make his next billion $$.
Or trillion ……
As long as I get my 35% as he agreeded. Never said anything about supporting his mentally retarded sh*t.
The Carbon Religion is splitting into the hydrogen and helium scare sects.
OK! Now we are getting funny!
What about the Church of Plutonium?
Those heretics! Always mumbling about splitting hairs and whatnot.
…you will not be saved by the god Plutonium…
We need all the CO2 in the atmosphere that we can get.
“In about 600 million years from now, the level of CO2 will fall below the level needed to sustain C3 carbon fixation photosynthesis used by trees. Some plants use the C4 carbon fixation method, allowing them to persist at CO2 concentrations as low as 10 parts per million. However, the long-term trend is for plant life to die off altogether. The extinction of plants will be the demise of almost all animal life, since plants are the base of the food chain on Earth.”
“In about one billion years, the solar luminosity will be 10% higher than at present. This will cause the atmosphere to become a “moist greenhouse”, resulting in a runaway evaporation of the oceans.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Earth
Happy holidays.
We already have the THEORY on what to do; the rest is just engineering. SF writer Larry Niven had a pretty good idea in his book “A World Out Of Time”. By the time we need to, we’ll know how.
That seems to be the way things have worked out, so far.
We’ll be saved by the not-yet-evolved C5 plants…
This is also an excellent read, related to the same topic. Merry Christmas, “oz4caster”!
http://www.technocracy.news/index.php/2015/10/30/former-president-of-greenpeace-scientifically-rips-climate-change-to-shreds/
The lovies never learn.
Sadly,sarc, we are all going to die.
99.9% of everyone living today will be dead in hundred years…Oh the humanity.
Merry Christmas.
To the easily alarmed ones… thank you .
There for the grace of God go I.
That is a very accurate, and sobering point, Mr. Robertson – very well stated, Sir. And I, for one, will continue to fight the good fight and educate as many people as possible to the reality surrounding the absolute stupidity regarding CAGW. Time is of the essence!
I believe it might be in less than 1 billion years. As earth cools, volcanism slows and the outgassing of things like CO2 stops. As the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere drops, plant life will decline and as plants decline, so do the animals that depend on them. Geology will take care of scrubbing out the CO2. Also, as the earth cools, its inner dynamo that powers the magnetic field slows and the field weakens. This allows the solar wind to strip even more atmosphere. I’m thinking we have somewhere around a half a billion years left.
“I’m thinking we have somewhere around a half a billion years left.”
Yeah, I’ve already got it marked down in my pocket planner, crosspatch.
(You have no idea how hard it is to get that planner out of my hip pocket.)
Maybe things will be revived after we get hit by a few large bodies from the Oort Cloud. Lots of things could be revved up.
About the magnetic field: the core has cooled about 110 C over to past 4 bn years, to 6000-ish degrees. I doubt it will be cold when the swelling sun engulfs it. At that point we can all move to Europa.
It will be know as the Great Europan Immigrant Crisis and the great leader of that day, Angel’o’Mercy, will save the day by letting overloaded spaceship occupants land without a visa.
Some things never change. For example, old soldiers never die, they just smell that way.
World is doomed. Children and the poor hardest hit.
If the world’s gonna end, then better head for the mountains, just to be safe.
A decrease in the mass of the atmosphere will cause surface cooling. The problem is what can be done about it. I would like funding to study theis problem and cime uo with possible courses of action. Another problem that we have to deal with is that our galaxy is on a collision course with the Andromeda Galaxy. The interaction of the two galaxies will effect the solar system’s orbit in space and possible the Earth’s climate as we encounter new galactic dust clouds. I also want money to study this problem as well.
We’re not doomed!! . .
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
It’s the reason for the season, merry makers ; )
Then somebody better take away God’s dice.
God leaves nothing to chance.
Surely, the Sovereign Lord does nothing
without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.
Amos 3:7.
“For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to … give you hope and a future.”
Jeremiah 29:11.
In the beginning … the Lord God said to the serpent, “… he will crush your head … .”
Genesis 1:1 – 3:15.
The people walking in darkness have seen a great light … For to us a child is born, to us a son is given … .
Isaiah 9:2-6.
And there were shepherds abiding in the fields
keeping watch over their flocks by night.
And lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them
and the glory of the Lord shown round about them
and they were sore afraid.
And the angel said unto them, “Fear not.
For behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy
which shall be for all people.
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior;
which is Christ the Lord.
Luke 2:8-11.
For God so loved the world ….
John 3:16.
Amen, JohnKnight.
Shalom.
HAPPY CHANUKAH!
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
One — and — all!
#(:))
@Janice, brought back great memories of our old style Midnight Mass. Choirs and a Christmas family breakfast after.
Thanks and a very Merry Christmas to you and your “buddy”
Thank you, Asybot. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
From me and Davy dog 🙂
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/08/30/climate-craziness-of-the-week-climate-anxiety-counseling-enters-the-lexicon-with-a-practitioner/comment-page-1/
lol, which one was the counselor and which the patient? so funny
Merry Christmas, Arthur!
Ah, Ms. M., i had a hunch that i’d find you on the eve of christmas nuturing all the ‘inner children’ here at wuwt! (the inner children of eggheads ARE an unruly bunch, aren’t they?) i have a link here above for you to the comment page which has the “snow men against global warming”. Me being computer illegitimate (were i at dr spencer’s blog i’d chime in as cunningham here, “don’t you mean illiterate, fonz?”), i’ve given up on trying to get the image to appear before your very eyes. The image is in the comments, so just scroll down, down… you’ll come to a really rather grotesque image of a primate looking thing. (quite unlike the one that i hit with a peanut in the zoo cage, who sat there just brooding, nostrils a flaring, as if to say, “if i could have my way, you’d be a bloody pulp in a leather jacket”) A couple comments below the ape is the “snowmen” image. It IS precious isn’t it? i like the very angry looking one in the front row. (all the rest seem to be going along mindlessly with someone elses agenda, but that one seems genuinely fired up) ‘Tis the season for snowmen and other christmasy things, so i thought it appropriate to give to you (who gives so much to others) this small gift for christmas. Here’s hoping this Christmas finds you (and yours) full of cheer, now and in the new year… arthur
Ms. M., looks like we’re playing “computer tag” here! i hope you get my comment and find the “snowmen against global warming”. (it is a gem…) One final note, say a little prayer for Marcus this christmas. Seems Anthony had enough and pulled the plug on him a couple weeks ago. Certainly understand that a blogger has to do what a blogger has to do. (especially a blogger of his immense caliber) Only wish it hadn’t been done at christmas time…
I was thinking about marcus too, afonzarelli . . a prayer is in order, no doubt . .
Mods, any chance that you can get a hold of Janice (by e-mail)? i was really hoping to get her “snowmen against global warming” for x-mas. Thanx… fonzie
I go to bed early (have to hit the jogging trail before any other dogs are there — Davy “does not play well with others.”).
lol — Found it! 🙂
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/08/30/climate-craziness-of-the-week-climate-anxiety-counseling-enters-the-lexicon-with-a-practitioner/comment-page-1/#comment-2289348
Yes, I like the frownie face one best, too. That one really cares! Heh.
Thank you, so much, for your kind, very generous, words, Arthur. Merry Christmas — hope you get lots of combs and Brill Creme in your stocking tomorrow morning. 🙂
And, yes, indeed. I noticed that our enthusiastically impulsive Marcus was missing and have been praying for a few days, now. I don’t understand why he would be completely banned when several others I could name regularly say much worse things. For example, ToneB, among other verbal spew, blatantly libelled Dr. Pielke, Sr. and Dr. Soon and not only was he allowed to continue to comment on WUWT, that comment was allowed to stand. That foul B. Sh’ln’b’r’g’r should have been banned long ago by “the Marcus standard.” I just don’t get it.
MARCUS, If you happen to read this — I am so sorry. Anthony may have a good reason, but, until he states it, it appears that you have been treated very unfairly. And it says a lot more about Anthony (who is a great guy, nonetheless) than you. Take care of yourself. You have been in my regular prayers for over a year, now — and you will continue to be (she is out there, Marcus!! — oh, don’t you roll your eyes at me (smile)). Merry Christmas, Janice
P.S. Arthur, this is how to copy a link from a comment: 1) Right click on date/time stamp of comment; 2) Left click on “Copy link address” in drop down menu; and 3) in your comment, Type “Ctrl — V” simultaneously to paste it in. 🙂
And, Marcus, this is for you. I know you said that you aren’t even sure if God exists. He does. And He loves you so much.
“Silent Night” — Neil Diamond
Take care and Merry Christmas,
Janice
Happy Christmas Marcus if you’re out there!
Janice
Here’s a song of praise to God for a Christmas night, from your brothers on the other side of the North Pole. One of my favourites (that’s a low A he reaches):
https://youtu.be/ntT2VemnVV8
You might say that global warming is an “existential threat” to snowmen (☺)…
Just a quick note to any and all. If your interested in seeing a very well made christmas classic, METV has the 1974 “Happy Days” christmas special airing at 3:00 pm (eastern) tomorrow. Probably the very best christmas special that i have ever seen. (but, then again, i AM biased aren’t i?)
Janice, it didn’t seem to be just one thing with anthony. Just that a critical mass (over time) had been reached. He did say that marcus was the biggest load for moderation that he had. i really didn’t want to make a grinch out of anthony here. This IS a top notch blog and it’s understandable that he would have (perhaps unreasonably) high standards for his comment page. Sure will miss marcus though; he seemed to imbue this comment page with his spirit…
Dear Ptolemy2,
Thank you for sharing that gorgeous choral work. Russian choral music is unexcelled. Such rich harmony.
Te laudamus,
te benedicimus,
tibi gratias agamus, Domine,
et obsecramus te, Deus noster.
Tebe poem
Tebe blagoslovim
Tebe blagodarim, Gospodi
I molim Ti sia, Bozhe nash.
We sing to you,
we praise you,
we thank you, O Lord,
and we pray to you, our God.
Amen.
Your sister in Jeshua,
Janice
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@”Fonzie” (and Everyone Alone on Christmas Eve)
Thank you, so much, for telling us about that touching show. I just found it (in a condensed and sort of scratchy version, but it more than got the point across…..).
“Happy Days Christmas” — 1974
Christmas is, indeed, all about family. And friends. And love.
As I stand here after eating a delicious dinner for one, typing on my laptop, at the workbench, in my parents’ garage, I am not alone. And neither are you. You have many friends, here at WUWT. And we’ll be here.
Merry Christmas!
Janice
Janice, it’s very difficult to find the full length version, but well worth it if you do… like i said, metv affiliates have it at three eastern tomorrow. i’ll be pearched like a parakeet on the sofa here (at two) in new orleans just to watch. It truly IS what christmas is all about. (hard to believe that the central character is played by a jewish actor, huh?)
Me tonight? Well… i hunkered down with a couple of cuts (on youtube) from the grateful dead when they used to jam live with the allman brothers band. There was nog (yes, spiked with rum; but what the hey!). Scant thoughts as well as to how i might whoop ferdinand on his “mass balance argument” in the new year. i’ve got an ace up my sleeve that even bart, God bless him, has not considered. Should be fun (if masochism is what one considers fun… ☺). And, yes, we are never alone; for the love of God will rise before the sun…
That a Jewish actor played that role isn’t surprising (to me) at all. After all, Jesus (and all the disciples and nearly all the early Church!) was a Jew. People seem (not you, just thinking about some amazingly dense Archie and Archiette Bunkers out there…..) to forget that. So, I made sure to say something! Ha!
WOWZA(!) Moves me every time i sees it… i guess in life we all have our “waukeshas”, some of us perhaps more so than others. Janice et al, y’all have a very merry christmas and a happy new year! (‘specially you Marcus, ya hear?)…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=INcI54NneBo
That is a lovely piece Janice….we sang it in our church choir years ago. My voice isn’t up to it now! Thanks for the link. Wishing you and all on here a very Happy Christmas.
So glad you enjoyed that, Annie! Thanks for saying so — that was a gift to me. And, dear Annie, your voice IS up to it. Just sing it in an octave where you are comfortable and sing it softly. I’ll bet you sound lovely. Merry Christmas! 🙂
Obviously, we need hydrogen/helium tax with the proceeds going to my Swiss bank account.