CIA Releases All Their UFO X Files

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The CIA has finally surrendered after decades of FOI requests from UFO enthusiasts, and handed over all their records (minus a bunch of redactions).

The CIA’s ‘entire’ collection of UFO records has been made available for you to sigh at

Is that The X-Files theme we hear?

Richard Currie Wed 13 Jan 2021 // 12:30 UTC

Everyone needs a hobby, and for one John Greenewald Jr that’s archiving declassified US government documents on his website, The Black Vault, which has this week published what the CIA claims is everything it has on UFOs.

Though Greenewald is quick to point out there’s no way of verifying that assertion, the collection is exhaustive with 2,780 hand-scanned pages of sighting reports, anecdotes, and musings from all over the world in wildly varying levels of detail and quality.

Introducing the data dump, Greenewald said that the battle to get his mitts on the documents dates back to 1996.

“Originally, the CIA would only release about 1,000 pages that had been previously disclosed after a [Freedom of Information Act] court case in the 1980s. They never addressed the records that were dated in the years after the case,” he wrote.

“The Black Vault spent years fighting for them, and many were released in the late 1990s. However, over time, the CIA made a CD-ROM collection of UFO documents, which encompassed the original records, along with the ones that took years to fight for.”

Read more: https://www.theregister.com/2021/01/13/ufo_records_declassified/

The UFO dump is available here.

I had a quick flip through the documents. Sadly I didn’t find any blueprints for alien starships, cold fusion devices or time machines.

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Joe Wagner
January 13, 2021 2:04 pm

>. Sadly I didn’t find any blueprints for alien starships, cold fusion devices or time machines.

They used the time machines to travel back in time and remove those documents from the archives before the FOI Act.

John Tillman
Reply to  Joe Wagner
January 13, 2021 2:09 pm

The time machines are cold fusion-powered alien starships.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Joe Wagner
January 13, 2021 2:12 pm

The foil hat brigade will merely declare that all the important stuff has been held back, for security reasons.

BCBill
Reply to  Rory Forbes
January 13, 2021 6:00 pm

Well, if there was any important stuff, it would be held back for security reasons. There probably isn’t any important stuff but why in God’s name would anybody believe the CIA?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  BCBill
January 13, 2021 6:11 pm

You’re right on both counts. Not only that, it’s highly unlikely that anything of any real importance would have remained a secret for any length of time. “Intelligence” agencies have never been all that good with secrets. Leaks are almost guaranteed … because people can’t wait to tell their friends, family or land a financial reward.

Reply to  Rory Forbes
January 13, 2021 9:42 pm

why in God’s name would anybody believe the CIA?”

Hey John Brennan, former head of the CIA, thinks this stuff might possibly be pointing to something real. I suspect that tells us more about the CIA and Brennan than the documents do.
Ex-CIA boss John Brennan believes there may be life beyond Earth (nypost.com)

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
January 13, 2021 11:34 pm

These people are just thugs, no better than the criminals who rob banks. Brennan is an idiot with powerful friends. None of them are masterminds. They simply have protection so they feel immune. Trump was starting to clean house … but the rot is too pervasive and he started scaring the crooks in his own party.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rory Forbes
January 14, 2021 11:14 am

“Trump was starting to clean house … but the rot is too pervasive and he started scaring the crooks in his own party.”

Republican politicians who go to Washington DC are at a huge disadvantage from Day One.

The Republicans have the Leftwing Media opposing them at every turn, and the Leftwing Media strikes fear in the hearts of Republicans. You can’t blame them, look what the Leftwing Media has done to Trump. Nobody wants to be subject to that kind of abuse.

So in order to survive in Washington DC, Repubicans have to stay off the radar of the Leftwing Media. This way they can get the job done for their constituents without getting heavy criticism from the Leftwing Media, which might put their career in jeopardy.

So what do Republican politicians do when a situation like the Capital Building attack takes place? Well, you can count on a reporter sticking a microphone in Repubican politician’s faces and asking them if they support Trump after that.

The Republican politician knows if he defends Trump, the Leftwing Media is going to jump all over him and he wants nothing to do with that, so he denounces Trump and gets the Leftwing Media off his back.

Other Republicans don’t wait for a reporter to stick a microphone in their face, they nip the process in the bud by voluntarily condemning Trump.

What we really have here is the United States is being guided by Leftwing intimidation. If the Republican don’t cooperate, the Leftwing Media attacks until they do.

The Republican politicains can’t stand up to the Leftwing Media. Trump does stand up to the Leftwing Media. That’s why they hate him so much, that, and the fact that he was dismantling their socialist paradise right before their eyes.

I must say the Republican politicians are doing better lately. In the impeachment vote yesterday, 197 Republicans voted against the bill and 10 voted in favor. So, the Repubicans in the House stood strong for the most part.

Leftwing Intimidation is what is shaping the U.S. course. The U.S. Supreme Court was intimidated by the Leftwing rioting mobs of the summer, and DC Republican politicians are intimidated by the Leftwing Media.

The Repubicans bow their heads to the Leftwing Media and allow the Left to destroy the nation from within.

TonyG
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 14, 2021 12:12 pm

“So what do Republican politicians do when a situation like the Capital Building attack takes place?”

One thing they most certainly do NOT do is stick together and support each other, fighting as a unified, coordinated group.

Another thing they don’t do is realize that the media is going to paint them as the enemy no matter what, even if they get a pass this time.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  TonyG
January 15, 2021 6:11 am

“Another thing they don’t do is realize that the media is going to paint them as the enemy no matter what, even if they get a pass this time.”

That’s a good point. The Leftwing Media is never going to give conservatives a break. The best conservatives can do is strike an uneasy peace with the Leftwing Media, and that only happens if the Republican politician goes along with the Leftwing narrative, otherwise there is no peace.

Republicans are going to be criticized by the Leftwing Media so they might as well be criticized for doing something that helps the conservative cause, which is basically promoting personal freedoms of people.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 14, 2021 5:06 pm

Yes, that’s pretty much the whole sorry thing. Years ago The Left made a conscious decision o buy up media outlets to spread their dogma. A generation before that they consciously infiltrated out education system at the university level, raining the teachers who would be teach the next generation of children. We’re well into the process now and the past election (year) is the result.of a near perfect confluence of indoctrination, indoctrinated and and enjoying the benefits of plandemic.

None of what you wrote was in the least bit accidental, or fortuitous. It took years of planning, vast amounts of money and deadly determination. Republicans do not operate or even think that way. Thy will have or learn or forget about ever forming a government again. The Left are far more committed to cheating and justifying any action to gain power. Republicans need to stop being so damned polite.

Reply to  Rory Forbes
January 13, 2021 10:36 pm

Leaks are almost guaranteed

And that is why the most important secrets are simply never recorded at all, or the records are destroyed, and the people who knew them removed or sworn to total secrecy.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 13, 2021 11:29 pm

and the people who knew them removed or sworn to total secrecy.

That’s why I said what you responded to. There is no total secrecy. In reality, few of the bad guys are all that bright. It’s not like the movies with super brain villains. Sooner or later it all comes out. The real problem lies in the fact that those who should be acting on that information are also corrupt. That’s what the “deep state” is all about … layers and layers of corruption going right to the top. That doesn’t take brains

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 14, 2021 4:13 am

seth rich

Kpar
Reply to  ozspeaksup
January 14, 2021 8:16 am

john f kennedy

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Rory Forbes
January 14, 2021 9:35 am

You’re right on both counts. Not only that, it’s highly unlikely that anything of any real importance would have remained a secret for any length of time.”

True dat. You know that stuff that was brought home by Major Jesse Marcel? The stuff that when you crumpled it up would immediately revert to its original form? Well, that amazing technological advancement led to the earth-shattering technology of… chips bags.

Go ahead, crumple one up, it will unfold. MAGIC!

Gene Corbin
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
January 14, 2021 12:54 pm

He also said they couldn’t tear it. Wouldn’t make very good chip bags.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Gene Corbin
January 14, 2021 9:13 pm

I’ve come across a lot of chip bags that were hard to tear.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rory Forbes
January 14, 2021 11:20 am

“it’s highly unlikely that anything of any real importance would have remained a secret for any length of time. “Intelligence” agencies have never been all that good with secrets.”

That’s not always the case. The fact that Hunter Biden has been under investigation by the feds since 2018, was never made public.

Hunter Biden himself voluntarily made the investigation public.

I’m surprised such an explosive secret could be kept, and for so long, but obviously it was.

I guess the Democrats are better at keeping secrets than the Republicans. They are also better at leaking secrets than the Republicans.

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Rory Forbes
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 14, 2021 5:12 pm

That’s not always the case. The fact that Hunter Biden has been under investigation by the feds since 2018, was never made public.

The media had much to do with that. The story was buried, but had been an open secret among the insiders. From what I have observed, it’s not that Democrats keep secrets better. They simply ignore that something occurred and the media plays along.

If this continues, I see elections being effectively abandoned and the parties go through the motions … then the media simply announces their choice, not all that different than what happened in November.

Leonard
Reply to  Rory Forbes
January 13, 2021 9:27 pm

Yes it is easy to make fun of people seeking these records. But there is much more significance here than UFOs. This is just an extreme case of the government keeping secrets out of some perverse logic other than national security issues.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Leonard
January 13, 2021 9:33 pm

I agree to the extent that I believe no “security” agency should be above the law, or become a law unto themselves, often (I’m told) maintaining secrets even from elected officials with the highest clearance. Having said that, I’ve never seen anything that comes close to evidence of extra terrestrial life that found its way to our planet.

Reply to  Leonard
January 13, 2021 10:38 pm

Maybe it suits the government to have people believe in UFOS and a government that hides the evidence.

Cerainly a lot of cold war hardware looked pretty much like UFOS from a distance. Very convenient to have those who saw it dismissed as ‘nutters’

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Leonard
January 14, 2021 2:06 am

Actually I think it is more an extreme case of “They want WHAT? Seriously? Do they know none of it is stored digitally?!”

Leonard
Reply to  Craig from Oz
January 14, 2021 8:33 pm

If the Government really wanted something they would digitize any amount of material.

iain russell
Reply to  Joe Wagner
January 13, 2021 2:29 pm

How about an instant cold beer system? On tap, on time, at all times!

Max P
Reply to  iain russell
January 13, 2021 2:49 pm

An ‘Invisible Beer Tapper’ that follows you around everywhere you go?

Lil-Mike
Reply to  Max P
January 14, 2021 9:47 am

Is it good beer like a strong and bright west coast stout?

Fred Harwood
Reply to  Joe Wagner
January 13, 2021 2:45 pm

THE time machine? I assure you, many exist and persist among the many timelines often crossing among less-than-parallel universes. Please try and keep up

fred250
Reply to  Fred Harwood
January 13, 2021 5:38 pm

You only have to look how past data keeps changing to know there must be a time machine somewhere !

jdgalt1
Reply to  Fred Harwood
January 13, 2021 5:55 pm

Like the ones that changed the result of a certain election? ;-b

Mario Lento
Reply to  Joe Wagner
January 13, 2021 4:50 pm

>. Sadly I didn’t find any blueprints for alien starships, cold fusion devices or time machines.

They actually found the time machines, which were used to literally go back in time and remove the evidence. Of course, those people who went back in time, are stuck there now… in the Bermuda Triangle of sorts. So nothing to see here. The Democrats are doing that right now to America

fred250
Reply to  Mario Lento
January 13, 2021 5:39 pm

Resurrecting all those lost people , so they can vote. 😉

u.k.(us)
January 13, 2021 2:41 pm

Only a fool would let the CIA get their hands on the really good stuff.
It is enough to just let them know it exists.
Does anyone really believe all that drilling in Antarctica is a scientific endeavor ?
Too much said ?

Leonard
Reply to  u.k.(us)
January 13, 2021 9:33 pm

We know the truth about the Glomar Challenger.

Lil-Mike
Reply to  Leonard
January 14, 2021 9:53 am

Don’t you mean The Glomar Explorer (that was the CIA’s deep see drill ship used to collect the USSR’s lost submarines) … After it was retired, it was anchored in the “mothball fleet” in the Carquinez Strait east of San Francisco Bay.

dodgy geezer
January 13, 2021 2:44 pm

Was there any reason why these files should not have been made available in the 1980s? And yet the bureaucracy spent 40 years fighting their release?

Mario Lento
Reply to  dodgy geezer
January 13, 2021 5:28 pm

To distract the public?

Antonym
Reply to  Mario Lento
January 14, 2021 12:42 am

Yes, now to distract the public eye away from stuff like this: FBI changes story, finally admits it has thousands of pages of documents about Seth Rich

Antonym
Reply to  Antonym
January 14, 2021 12:42 am
Kpar
Reply to  Antonym
January 14, 2021 8:20 am

That was interesting, but unsatisfying and unsurprising.

Mario Lento
Reply to  Antonym
January 14, 2021 8:39 am

What is going on is happening at the speed of light. Things can change in an instant, and we are seeing the difference between intelligence and mental disorder which allows indoctrination. We cannot mistake this. If simple truth is found to be offensive, you will find a left wing who’s unreachable and you need to move on.

Joe
Reply to  dodgy geezer
January 13, 2021 8:26 pm

Because in the 1980s, people would have wanted the CIA to mail them out on paper, and that would eat into the budget they use for the “fun” stuff?

Craig from Oz
Reply to  dodgy geezer
January 14, 2021 2:12 am

Because none of it was stored digitally or configured properly and no one really wanted to spend months finding and scanning 30 year old paper copies?

Having dealt professionally with poorly maintained data packs while trying to find information I would say “It’s too hard, I don’t want to” is a COMPLETELY valid reason for blocking the request.

SMC
January 13, 2021 2:45 pm

That man in the picture is virtue signaling. Cats aren’t affected by alien or government signals.

u.k.(us)
Reply to  SMC
January 13, 2021 2:50 pm

Cats are aliens.

Peter W
Reply to  u.k.(us)
January 13, 2021 4:20 pm

and highly poisonous (personal experience over many years.)

Chris Hanley
Reply to  SMC
January 13, 2021 4:28 pm

If I tried something like that with the cat around here there would be bloodshed.

u.k.(us)
Reply to  Chris Hanley
January 13, 2021 5:41 pm

Long leather gloves cut down (mostly) on the bloodshed, when purposely antagonizing a fully clawed cat.
They start out playful, then the killer instinct kicks in.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Chris Hanley
January 13, 2021 6:02 pm

The cat likes it. You can tell by the cat’s expression that he’s thrilled to be allowed to participate.

TonyG
Reply to  Chris Hanley
January 14, 2021 10:09 am

True, which suggests that the cat in the picture is actually an alien shapeshifter and not a real cat.

Kevin kilty
January 13, 2021 2:46 pm

2,780 sightings of Venus in the daytime, superior mirages, and the Goodyear blimp. Lordy.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Kevin kilty
January 13, 2021 5:43 pm

You forgot Mars and swamp gas, weather balloons, old parachutes, and frisbee hubcaps.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  RockyRoad
January 13, 2021 6:03 pm

As well as the Goodrich blimp.

Reply to  jorgekafkazar
January 13, 2021 10:40 pm

Ball lightning, the SR71 blackbird and early stealth bombers…

Kpar
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
January 14, 2021 8:23 am

I used to work for BFG- they advertised themselves as “the guys without a blimp”.

A likely story- they might have had an “invisiblimp”.

Gene Corbin
Reply to  RockyRoad
January 14, 2021 3:43 pm

Maybe you can explain what I saw while camping on the banks of a very rural SE OK riverbank in 1972? Early morning hours I see almost directly above me a light moving at an unchanged rate tracing what appeared to be an isometric triangle that from my perspective could barely be covered by my extended fist. It’s position in the sky didn’t change and I could tell because it was near the line of sight of an overhanging branch. How far away it was, I have no idea. It was silent and you could hear every visible plane, though sometimes you’d hear them after they were no longer visible and rare at that time and place. You could hear cars from several miles away, but not this thing. Did see what I came to know as the then top secret b2 bomber in years after that. That part of OK was a testing area, I think. A tiny dot in the sky doing maneuvers with an accompanying sound that could be felt more than heard. But I never thought it was inexplicable. This thing continued for at least a half hour. I closed my eyes for I don’t know how long because I was 13 and exhausted, open them and it’s gone. I can find no explanation for it. Have seen other things equally inexplicable, particularly in the last 10 years. Some I know aren’t explicable by any conventional means. Do you know what it was? Do you know what Lt Fravor saw because I saw what appeared to be what he saw just a couple of months ago? You sure we’re all just nuts?

TonyG
Reply to  Kevin kilty
January 14, 2021 10:20 am

I have seen two UFO’s. One of which I captured on video. In both cases, I was completely unable to identify what they were. The one on video I couldn’t identify after viewing the video several times. The fact that it was at night didn’t help.

So, UFO’s. Never claimed they were alien spacecraft, though.

u.k.(us)
Reply to  TonyG
January 14, 2021 4:08 pm

If it has lights it is a civil aircraft, unless the owners of the UFO are exhibitionists.

January 13, 2021 3:03 pm

It looks like they searched for documents containing the word ‘ufo’, many of which have a foreign origin. It’s an interesting way to satisfy the FOIA. Funny how we thought they were the Russians while the Russians thought they were us…

January 13, 2021 3:04 pm

Too much information.
Someone write a “best of” summary please.

Does anyone here realize that the U/S. Air Force used to require their pilots to file written reports on UFO sughtings from the late 1940s to late 1960s? Roughly 12,600 reports were filed and I’m confident not every pilot followed orders to file a report. So, if there are no UFOs, then 12,600+ reports from young American pilots with good vision are 100% wrong ?

Thousands of commercial pilots have reported seeing UFOs, and probably ten times as many decided not to report what they saw.

It always amazes me that people can believe predictions of the climate in 100 years … and then believe thousands of military and commercial pilots have had UFO illusions and make jokes about the subject.

The best television show about UFO sighting by Navy pilots and Navy radar operators was “Unidentified: with the caveat that about ten minutes of material gets stretched into a one hour show.

The best documentary about UFOs concerned the amazing “crop circles” that would show up overnight in farmers’ fields all around the world. Some are unbelievably complex and precise.
There’s a view of one here: https://hdclump.com/ancient-aliens-season-8-ep-8-circles-sky/

Crop “circles” are well documented on an excellent episode of Ancient Aliens, from 2015 on the History Channel. Ancient Aliens usually contains lots of speculation. And their crop circles show had about ten minutes of speculation too … but there were also interviews with Michigan physicists who could not explain the bizarre changes to the crop “circle” plant stems caused by a form of energy they did not understand. I believe you can download a free mp4 version from here:

Of course UFOs are real.
Pilots have been seeing them since the 1940s.
World War II pilots called them “foo-fighters”,
mispronouncing “faux fighters”.

We send spacecraft to other planets.
Other beings in the universe do the same.
We go to zoos to look at animals.
Other beings come here to look at us.

Back in the 1990s people in Michigan were told
the UFOs some people saw were “swamp gas”.
We don’t tolerate government nonsense like that.

Discussions of UFOs tend to be anti-science and immature.
Evidence from reliable witnesses is dismissed with ridicule.
Reminds me of like how leftists dismiss real climate science.

Reply to  Richard Greene
January 13, 2021 3:27 pm

People tend to get stuck on the idea that the only way to travel through space is to throw hot mass out the ass end of your craft. This is a severe limitation for matter traveling through space, but not necessarily so for matter traveling through space-time.

If you can unify mass and charge as different forms of a common element, for example how space-time is curved, how to apply EM energy to traverse through space-time should become apparent. Of course, you still can’t end up before you started.

Clay Sanborn
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 13, 2021 4:14 pm

Here in the Dallas, TX area, I see UFOs EVERY TIME I gaze up into a clear night sky. There are usually several visible at the same time. They all have blinking lights, and if one happens to move past me, in earshot, they sound like commercial jet aircraft, so I know they emulate normal airborne commerce so as to be able to operate within our atmosphere. They MAY BE commercial jet aircraft, but I don’t know that, ergo – Unidentified Flying Aircraft (UFO)s. So who is stupid – Me for seeing them? Or whoever came up with the acronym, “UFO”, which has no apparent useful meaning in the age of flight?

Reply to  Clay Sanborn
January 13, 2021 4:28 pm

You can tell the difference by flight characteristics. The UFO’s that need an explanation are the ones whose flight characteristics are impossible within the constraints of our technology and understanding of physics. Airplanes are pretty obvious from almost any distance or perspective.

Clay Sanborn
Reply to  co2isnotevil
January 13, 2021 4:52 pm

On 15 April, 1912, the Titanic probably because the attentive (this was the first voyage of a highly regaled ship) iceberg lookouts could not see the iceberg that sank it. Why? Because there was a cold air mass moving down from Labrador that night that. creating an atmospheric temperature inversions that sent visible light rays shooting over the Titanic. Since the flight path of traveling light can be enormously altered by atmospheric disturbances, what one sees under certain anomalous (pretty much any, really) conditions, attesting a cause for what one what one “sees” is OK for conjecture and study, but apparently not much else. Light from powerful squid boats can be seen WAY over the horizon, out of the line of sight, with observant pilots reporting UFOs accelerating and changing directions at enormous speeds, because the squid boats and their respective lights are bouncing on the ocean waves.
The lookouts on the Titanic were castigated, well, because.

Reply to  Clay Sanborn
January 13, 2021 5:46 pm

RE: Titanic lookouts. I read that the first mate was replaced shortly before the voyage due to favoritism and he took with him the keys to the locker thst held the binoculars. Also, I did not know about temperature inversions redirecting light. Thanks.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Clay Sanborn
January 13, 2021 6:12 pm

“…the flight path of traveling light can be enormously altered by atmospheric disturbances, what one sees under certain anomalous (pretty much any, really) conditions…”

You blinked.

Last edited 5 months ago by jorgekafkazar
Clay Sanborn
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
January 13, 2021 7:07 pm

It is now a known fact that witnesses of fact, say a rape, or a UFO sighting, all too often unintentionally mentally misremember what they saw. One Forensic Files case involved a woman who “memorized” her rapist’s face which she could clearly see during her 2 hour ordeal. She identified the wrong man, who was subsequently sent to prison. Can’t remember, :), but I think DNA tech finally acquitted the innocent man. Any who – the point is that people all too often mentally alter what they think they saw, often making witness testimony less than valid: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-forensic-view/202008/eyewitness-testimony-eyewitness-mistakes-what-we-get-wrong My main point though is that the acronym “UFO” has no gravitas. That a “flying” object is unidentified pretty much means nothing, while at the same time implies much. It’s incongruous, and is definitely a non sequitur. If people really mean to say, “There’s intelligent, extraterrestrial life forms buzzing around our planet.”, then why don’t they say that, and please SHOW ME THE PROOF OF THAT!

Reply to  Clay Sanborn
January 14, 2021 8:32 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkmpiQmKFI4

Not necessarily proof of ET, but certainly proof of propulsion methods far beyond the consensus understanding of physics whose limitation is not recognizing how charge and mass are connected.

To the extent that this kind of propulsion is possible, FTL inter-stellar travel becomes practical. Given the vastness of our Universe, or even just our galaxy, it’s incredibly arrogant to think that intelligence is limited to humans on Earth.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  co2isnotevil
January 14, 2021 9:52 am

I didn’t see any proof of impossible propulsion methods in that video.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
January 14, 2021 5:22 pm

Correct, they are not impossible, just not achievable with conventional technology.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  co2isnotevil
January 14, 2021 9:14 pm

They were going in straight lines…

Clay Sanborn
Reply to  co2isnotevil
January 15, 2021 11:10 am

Just being skeptical here (science allows for that)…
I’ve seen these aircraft videos before. What makes me extremely skeptical about their tracking of the apparent visual object is that the aircraft video heads-up display – the circle with brackets on either side – keeps a perfect fix on the object. There is no X or Y axis deviation. And it appears from the background that the aircraft is in a hard turn to stay on track with the object. Therefore the object being tracked is NOT amazing to me; what is amazing is that the pursuing aircraft can keep such a perfect bead on an apparent bogey. This makes me think the source of the light from the apparent bogey is from somewhere in the aircraft video systems themselves.
We “see” something we don’t understand. So rather than assume there is something prosaic and anomalous in the video systems, we suspect that extraterrestrial intelligent life forms are buzzing around in physics-as-we-know-it breaking flying craft. That’s like 1+1=2, therefore E = mc2

Kpar
Reply to  Clay Sanborn
January 14, 2021 8:27 am

Indeed, I have heard about the temperature inversion, as well. It seems to explain many things about that night.

Lil-Mike
Reply to  co2isnotevil
January 14, 2021 10:04 am

Airplanes are pretty obvious from almost any distance or perspective”

Umm … actually no. I had a UFO incident in the 90s that had me freaked out for about 10 minutes. I was riding a horse down a long straight road in the dark (horses have very good night vision). It was moonless and overcast, so there was almost no light. I’m enjoying the ride … and I notice I can see my shadow on the ground. That can’t be, there’s no moon or stars. I looked around, and saw two lights about 45 degrees up, behind me, looking like a few hundred yards out. This goes on for several minutes with this light thing following me. I was in the glide path of then Mather AFB east of Sacramento, and a B52 was coming in.

Jones
Reply to  Clay Sanborn
January 13, 2021 6:49 pm

Richard, I am so happy it isn’t just me who has the same experiences. I see and hear exactly the same as you. But only at night because in the day the UFO’s have all shape-shifted into commercial airliners that fly in and out of the airport about a mile away.

They are fiendishly clever those aliens. I even see hundreds of them (all humanoid) getting in and out of their shape-shifted spaceships every day.

I think they’re pod people.

Kpar
Reply to  Jones
January 14, 2021 8:28 am

Or Democrats.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 13, 2021 5:55 pm

Most people would rather chase after goblins than face reality.

“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the universe or we are not; both are equally terrifying.” –Arthur C. Clarke

jdgalt1
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 13, 2021 5:57 pm

Makes me think of that guy who flew a lawn chair near the LAX flight path.

Reply to  Richard Greene
January 13, 2021 10:42 pm

Yeah., I knew a guy who used to make those amazing crop circles with bits of string a hammer some wood stakes and a measuring tape. Baffled all the ‘experts’.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 14, 2021 9:53 am

Don’t even get me started on the crop circle morons.

Redge
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 13, 2021 11:59 pm

you forgot the /sarc tag (I hope)

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 14, 2021 11:35 am

“Ancient Aliens usually contains lots of speculation.”

Yes, it does, which irritates me no end, but I still like to watch shows like that because I like seeing the different vehicles they feature. There are actually a large number of different designs of UFO’s.

I’m a skeptic. An alien is going to have to practically walk out of his spacecraft in front of cameras for me to have enough proof, but the pictures sure make one think.

If there really are visitors from other worlds, I wonder are the different designs a sign of many different civilizations visiting, or does just one civilization have numerous designs?

How do the aliens keep a rogue alien (surely there is a rogue alien) from going against the rules and revealing himself to the humans? They seem to have pretty good discipline so far.

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CD in Wisconsin
January 13, 2021 3:07 pm

For anyone who doesn’t know, the tinfoil hat is to prevent aliens from getting into your head and taking over your mind. I have no idea why the cat needs to be protected from the aliens./sarc

Alexander Mentes
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
January 13, 2021 3:17 pm

I have no idea why the cat needs to be protected from the aliens.

I do

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Alexander Mentes
January 14, 2021 9:54 am

He’s preventing the “cat” from receiving his next set of instructions.

John Tillman
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
January 13, 2021 3:30 pm

So that they don’t become our overlords!

Oh, wait. Never mind.

JimG1
Reply to  John Tillman
January 13, 2021 4:11 pm

You have met my cat, I see.

ldd
Reply to  JimG1
January 13, 2021 4:44 pm

Times 3 at my house. Cats have evolved to make we humans their slaves. They win evolution war. They are everywhere in the world now.

RockyRoad
Reply to  ldd
January 13, 2021 5:59 pm

People don’t own cats; it’s the other way around.

DonM
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
January 13, 2021 3:46 pm

Alf he had a hard time restraining himself around cats.

jdgalt1
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
January 13, 2021 5:58 pm

The cat is the alien. Why it allowed itself to be hatted is a mystery.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
January 13, 2021 6:01 pm

EVERYONE knows that the ordinary aluminum foil as in the photo is useless, only real TIN foil can block mind control beams.

Kpar
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
January 14, 2021 8:30 am

Good point, I’ll have to remember that.

DonM
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
January 14, 2021 9:17 am

Not everyone knows that. You give to much credit.

Little known … that the aluminum enhances the mind control beams. The aliens have supplied us with dribs and dabs of technology that helps them with their ultimate plan.

Aluminum foil, as a cheaper and more efficient replacement of tin foil, is an example.

Fran
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
January 14, 2021 11:54 am

I have a neighbour who has completely lined his house with tinfoil under the wallboard and connected to ground. He really believes that microwaving food makes it radio active or something. In his day job, he is a competent electronics technician.

Notanacademic
January 13, 2021 3:19 pm

2780 pages and nothing about probing, just curious

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Notanacademic
January 13, 2021 6:15 pm

I am not disappointed. You?

Notanacademic
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
January 14, 2021 12:53 am

I’m delighted

Mike
January 13, 2021 3:29 pm

That cat shows the epitome of excitement!

Harry Davidson
Reply to  Mike
January 14, 2021 1:50 am

The cat shows “What the f**k are we doing?”.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Harry Davidson
January 14, 2021 6:57 am

Mostly cats just think about humans this way: “If you were a bit smaller, I could k*ll you”

Chris Hanley
January 13, 2021 3:31 pm

Believing in UFOs is no crazier than believing that after four and a half billion years the global average temperature was finally perfect in 1950.

Reply to  Chris Hanley
January 13, 2021 5:47 pm

Brilliant!

jdgalt1
Reply to  Chris Hanley
January 13, 2021 5:59 pm

Believing in UFOs is a lot more sane than believing in flying saucers.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Chris Hanley
January 14, 2021 9:56 am

I think you meant 1750. That’s where they want to take us.

Bruce Cobb
January 13, 2021 4:23 pm

That cat is like “just shoot me”. Hey, that would be a great name for a tv show!

Hoyt Clagwell
January 13, 2021 4:40 pm

The big twist- it is revealed that WE ARE THE ALIENS!!! Dum-dum-dummmmmmm.

January 13, 2021 5:03 pm
n.n
January 13, 2021 5:15 pm

Urban Fleecing Organizations

Ron Ginzler
January 13, 2021 7:41 pm

Per this site’s policy, UFO’s are not welcome here. What happened?

u.k.(us)
Reply to  Ron Ginzler
January 13, 2021 8:00 pm

Don’t tell anyone…but it is a dis-disinformation campaign.

Ron Ginzler
Reply to  Eric Worrall
January 14, 2021 8:21 pm

The problem I have with that is that UFOs are not a laughing matter. The observational data from reliable witnesses are real and need to be taken seriously. Don’t get me started on this…

rickk
January 13, 2021 8:11 pm

Anything on how Biden got more votes than the beloved Obama or the less-than-beloved Clinton…now that’s some unexplainable sh!t right there

Tom in Florida
Reply to  rickk
January 14, 2021 5:24 am

Easy, you just keep receiving and counting votes that come in after the election deadline until you guy wins.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Tom in Florida
January 14, 2021 6:26 am

The Big Guy always gets his cut.

mcswell
Reply to  rickk
January 14, 2021 7:26 am

US population on Nov 5, 2012 was just under 315 million (https://www.census.gov/popclock/, and set the date). Population on Nov 3, 2020 was considerably over 330 million. That’s a difference of 15 million, which accounts for part of the difference: total vote of 158 million in 2020, as opposed to 129 million in 2016.

The other part of the difference is that the 2020 vote had the highest percentage of voters voting of any election since 1900 (nearly 67%), which makes sense (to me) given the nearly sensationalist leadup to the election last year. By comparison, voter turnout in 2012 was 55%, itself three percentage points down from the previous presidential election.

So yes, I see nothing odd in those numbers. (And fwiw, I voted in 2020, but not for either Biden or Trump, which I suppose makes me somewhat less biased than most.)

Kpar
Reply to  mcswell
January 14, 2021 8:35 am

There are oddities buried in those numbers. Don’t look at population, look at the number of registered voters. Take 67% of that, then the number of Trump voters, then the number of Biden voters. Quite a bit of excess votes- enough to change the results of an election.

mcswell
Reply to  Kpar
January 14, 2021 9:55 am

And what is that number of registered voters? According to this:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/number-of-registered-voters-by-state
it was nearly 214 million in 2020. (You can download it as a .csv file, then sum the values for each state.) The sum of the votes for any presidential candidate was about 158 million, which is just under 74% of 214 million.

Why 74% instead of 67%? Different denominators: I’m using the number of registered voters, whereas the 67% figure uses the estimated voting age population, (http://www.electproject.org/2020g). And of course not everyone who is of voting age bothers to register to vote.

So the numbers make sense, IMO: about 74% of the voters who had bothered to register actually voted–almost 3 out of every 4. I’d actually expect a higher percentage in such a highly contested year, but I guess some weren’t that excited by either candidate. I count myself in the less excited category, in the sense that I didn’t like either candidate. But probably most people who didn’t like either candidate didn’t vote at all, at least not for president. If you look at the spreadsheet at the above link to electroproject, you’ll see that nearly 1.5 million people who voted did not vote for any presidential candidate.

hiskorr
Reply to  mcswell
January 15, 2021 12:54 am

Get real. The “number of registered voters” in most voting districts is much greater than the number of living residents in the district who bother to register, much less vote. People move, and die. Even “voter rolls” that have been “cleansed” are dealing with data that are three years old. Mailing ballots to all “registered voters” produced millions of unclaimed ballots that could be harvested for the man who created and bragged about “the strongest and most complete voter fraud organization in history”.

mcswell
Reply to  hiskorr
January 15, 2021 10:33 am

The “number of registered voters” in most voting districts is much greater than the number of living residents in the district who bother to register’: Evidence?

(I’m not disputing that the number of registered voters is greater than the number who vote: in this past election, that ratio was about 4:3, and more than that in most previous elections. But determining the ratio of registered voters to the number of living residents who have registered is much more difficult, and I doubt you have real numbers for that.)

DonM
Reply to  mcswell
January 14, 2021 9:23 am

So, the population goes up by 25 million and Biden gets all 30 million of them, or 116% of the increase. This type of math is getting popular.

mcswell
Reply to  DonM
January 14, 2021 9:32 am

I guess you didn’t bother to read the second paragraph.

DonM
Reply to  mcswell
January 15, 2021 12:38 pm

And Biden gets all of them ….

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  rickk
January 14, 2021 9:57 am

That much hatred, both faux and real, for Trump. People weren’t voting FOR Biden.

January 13, 2021 8:58 pm

UFO is so last century. Us well-informed freaks now call them UAPs, Unexplained Aerial Phenomena.
As a cat owner, sorry, servant, well aware of my masters’ alien origin, I have spent some time ruminating on things above my head. Because I am woefully innocent on the joys of being probed by seven foot tall blue chicks, I had to make do with sifting what little information there is through the strainer of common sense and zero faith. What I have managed to come up with so far, is that there are, indeed, UFOs and UAPs, at least three major types. I include a link, but don’t believe a word of it!
https://greenpets.co.za/index.php/en/51-greenpets-natural-happiness/natural-living/biome/281-3-ufos

Tom in Florida
Reply to  paranoid goy
January 14, 2021 5:23 am

“seven foot tall blue chicks”
According to the book “A Truth Revealed” (Kindle), the aliens are just slightly taller with sandy hair and blue eyes.

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Kpar
Reply to  Tom in Florida
January 14, 2021 8:37 am

Are you talking about the “Nordics”? Then there are also the reptilians, the Large Greys, the Small Greys- I’m sure I am missing some…

Tommy Mills
January 14, 2021 3:36 am

Find Area 21 and you’ll find the alien hardware.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Tommy Mills
January 14, 2021 9:58 am

I think you mean Studio 54.

TonyG
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
January 14, 2021 11:59 am

Hanger 18

Shawn Marshall
January 14, 2021 4:18 am

Why does Socialism always fail?
Because government destroys whatever it controls. Why?
All decisions are arrogated by a pin head.
Look what is in the Congress now and what is headed to the White House.
People who claim they believe in Science and haven’t the faintest clue.
Destroying marriage isn’t enough – they must destroy gender also – along with 60,000,000+ innocent lives in the womb – with your money richly endowing a private corporation dedicated to slaughter.

leitmotif
January 14, 2021 4:57 am

Is there anything about the time when Greta’s ship landed? How Dan Dare you!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  leitmotif
January 14, 2021 11:58 am

Are you saying Greta is an alien?

Gene Corbin
January 14, 2021 12:53 pm

Hardly see why it’s considered ‘humor’. If you don’t acknowledge that somethings are fly around our skies and in our ocean doing things that seem physically impossible you haven’t been paying attention. You don’t have to assume ‘aliens’, but they are there and it is in our best interests, I think, to find our what they are. I personally have witnessed such things and so have a majority of people who feel safe saying so. Funny it isn’t. I know many people who are steeped in scientific knowledge, even those who repudiate others who think they are superior, find admitting that such things exist is nearly impossible. But denying it is ignorant.

RoHa
January 14, 2021 9:50 pm

I’m glad the cat is being protected against Martian thought control.

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