COP22 Green Groups: Where's the Money?

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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The Marrakesh COP22 climate conference has ended – and green groups are just waking up that without US financial support, nobody has committed any money to anything.

COUNTRIES APPEAL TO TRUMP OVER CLIMATE CHANGE AS COP22 ENDS

Environmental groups such as Greenpeace have welcomed the united front displayed by nearly 200 countries in Marrakesh in the face of Donald Trump’s campaign threat to quit the Paris accord on climate change.

The UN negotiations concluded in Morocco in the early hours of Saturday with an agreement to hammer out a rulebook by 2018.

Last year’s Paris Agreement left many details vague, such as how countries will report and monitor national pledges to curb greenhouse gas emissions.

The final text also urges rich nations to keep building towards a goal of providing 100 billion dollars a year to help developing countries address climate change.

But some agencies are disappointed by a lack of concrete targets.

I’m a little worried by the lack of financial support to help poor countries adapt. This conference has been taking place in Africa, it was generally agreed that there should be more money, but in concrete terms unfortunately these decisions failed to materialise,” said Lutz Weischer, team leader on international climate policy at Germanwatch.

Read more: http://www.euronews.com/2016/11/19/countries-appeal-to-trump-over-climate-change-as-cop22-ends

It is genuinely possible most of the members of groups like Greenpeace and Germanwatch really didn’t know where all the money was coming from. Sounds crazy, but think about it – all greens had to do in the past is make a lot of noise, and bundles of cash turned up. They never had any reason to question where the cash was coming from.

I suspect climate activists are only now waking to the horrible possibility that after years of partying on the US taxpayer’s dime, they really don’t have that many friends anymore.

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Scottish Sceptic
November 20, 2016 2:09 am

In the past, I’ve made a special effort to find out what was happening at these COPs.
This year … well … to be honest I thought it was in December.
It just didn’t seem to matter.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Scottish Sceptic
November 20, 2016 6:46 am

Fortunately, Rebel Media has been there, to give the true picture of what is going on there, not just what they want people to see. Lots of vids available, including one where Marc Morano tries to shred the Paris Agreement, but is stopped, and escorted away by UN goons:

asybot
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 20, 2016 12:30 pm

OH that lovely tolerance,, equality for all and their love of free speech when you are liberal! The Rebel could have used some Canadian Peacekeepers there!

Andre
November 20, 2016 2:25 am

I think it’s very clear that the UN and their globalist allies are using the pretext of climate change as an instrument to bring about “a rapid and complete transformation of the global economy”.
http://www.unric.org/en/latest-un-buzz/29623-figueres-first-time-the-world-economy-is-transformed-intentionally
https://www.georgetown.edu/UN-official-Rachel-Kyte-sustainability
http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/news-and-diary/12105/speech

November 20, 2016 2:25 am

I think it’s very clear that the UN and their globalist allies are using the pretext of climate change as an instrument to bring about “a rapid and complete transformation of the global economy”.
http://www.unric.org/en/latest-un-buzz/29623-figueres-first-time-the-world-economy-is-transformed-intentionally
https://www.georgetown.edu/UN-official-Rachel-Kyte-sustainability
http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/news-and-diary/12105/speech

Gareth Phillips
November 20, 2016 2:27 am

The biggest scam artist ever seen in US history has just been elected President. The US has changed from being a Democracy to a Kleptocracy. I would not be overly concerned about funding green issues, just keep a close eye on Mr. Borgia and his family who are set to make Swiss bankers very wealthy. Interesting that he must be the first President to enter office at the same time as spending millions of dollars paying off law suits. Never mind, it’s peanuts compared to the cash he is likely to skim from the national coffers.
There is substantial amounts of material out there, but this is a good primer.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/9/28/12904136/donald-trump-corrupt

Catcracking
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
November 20, 2016 6:33 am

Garth,
Did you forget that Bill Clinton paid off a sexual harassment lawsuit as he entered his second term complements of a complicit media who sold the concept of Democrats can do anything and still get elected? He also lost his licence to practice law.

Janus100
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
November 20, 2016 8:33 am

It remains to be seen…
I am not a fan of Trump, but he managed to beat Hillary and ousted the green mafia.
So, as far as I am concern, “so far so good”
His Choice of staffers looks good to me too.
Carry on, Donnie.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
November 20, 2016 9:22 am

Now that their worst fear has materialized (President Trump), the Left-wing Trump bashers are in full-throated banshee style spittle-flecked rage. So yeah, there would be lots of “material” out there.

Chris
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 20, 2016 10:10 am

No need for rage on Trump, his actions speak for themselves. He sold a bill of goods to Trump supporters about “draining the swamp” in DC. Turns out that all his Cabinet selections are DC insiders or long term industry bankers. You got conned.

SkepticGoneWild
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 20, 2016 12:40 pm

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

TA
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 20, 2016 7:30 pm

Good point, Bruce. If the Left cannot find defamatory”material’ then they will just make some up, so they always have plenty of ammunition to use.
Trump isn’t perfect, but compared to Hillary Clinton Inc, he is a choirboy.
Hillary was Gangster Al Capone in a skirt. And she would have taken her whole extensive crime family into the White House to start putting the screws to the American people. That might have been the end of true freedom in these United States.
But by Gosh, that’s not going to happen, is it. Providence has smiled on us.

Richard Patton
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
November 20, 2016 6:11 pm

It is common in our legal system when the costs to defend oneself exceed what one is willing or able to pay, then one settles out of court. If it costs you a hundred million to litigate but settling out of court is only twenty then you pay the twenty million even if you are in the right.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
November 20, 2016 7:07 pm

Sour grapes, Gareth? [If you don’t know the reference, read the fable.]

MarkW
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
November 21, 2016 10:34 am

It really is fascinating how socialists actually do believe that the other side is 100% evil while their gods are 100% pure.

November 20, 2016 2:39 am

I don’t think Germanwatch is getting much from the US taxpayer. According to their accounts
http://germanwatch.org/de/download/16432.pdf
their biggest chunks come from the German government ministries of science and environment, plus the European Commission of course (so we Brits are paying our share) plus Toyota, the Munich insurance business, and a number of charities supposedly tackling hunger in the 3rd world.
All this so that Germans can watch Germans.

Reply to  Geoff Chambers
November 20, 2016 7:14 am

All this so that Germans can watch Germans

.
That’s what they do.
Angels Merkel is from the former East Germany.
Neighbors watching neighbors and ratting on them.
Leopards don’t change their spots.

KenB
November 20, 2016 2:49 am

Ah well the sheep are waking up (slowly) to something we knew all along in dealing with the arrogance, the corruption of climate science. The money they had for the taking, the political regressives, that had branded themselves as “progressives” as it sounds so much more posh and intelligent to the believer selfie class. A class that have been taught not to question or query what they have been taught in social re-education classes that replaced real education!.
All the time congratulating themselves, with pal review, science fantasy awards, the you scratch my back and I will nominate you too, laugh science, and peddling of taxpayers grant money.
Well the echo halls are now full of wailing and gnashing of teeth and reality and hate is their refuge, And yes we who have experienced this for so many years have to restrain our merriment as we must be sober and non-judgemental, but there is some delightful irony…

dennisambler
November 20, 2016 3:39 am
jones
Reply to  dennisambler
November 20, 2016 3:49 am

Heh, it’s all in the two words at the top of the placard above the “F”,
“WE DEMAND”….
Sums it up.

jones
Reply to  jones
November 20, 2016 3:50 am

Ah, and the one on the left… “we demand” squared then….

Patrick MJD
Reply to  jones
November 20, 2016 4:42 am

Faceless demands too.

Curious George
Reply to  dennisambler
November 20, 2016 8:55 am

What is the climate? These people are the climate.

Reply to  dennisambler
November 20, 2016 11:51 am

I LOLed . Couldn’t believe it was not a pimp on the believers .
It’s like bums who straight up ask for beer money .

TA
Reply to  dennisambler
November 20, 2016 7:36 pm

Probably the last thing someone should do is make demands on Americans. You will not be received well doing such things. You will probably be rejected out of hand, doing such things. Americans don’t like being told what to do. By their government, or anyone else.

TA
Reply to  dennisambler
November 20, 2016 7:36 pm

Great picture, btw!

MarkW
Reply to  dennisambler
November 21, 2016 12:52 pm

At least they are being honest at last. It’s always been about the money.

dennisambler
November 20, 2016 3:47 am
knr
November 20, 2016 3:52 am

with an agreement to hammer out a rulebook by 2018.
of course that means finding anyone place for a jolly, but to be fair there is need for an airport that can handle quite a few private jets , so it cannot be just ‘anywhere ‘

mikerestin
Reply to  knr
November 20, 2016 10:50 am

Did Obama sign a blank check in Paris?
Typical democrat…We have to pass the bill so we can find out what’s in it.
Nancy Pelosi talking about the ACA and then that she never met Jon Gruber.
The good news is they want to keep her as their leader in congress.

pete
November 20, 2016 4:37 am

Spending billions to help poor countries adapt from climate change that will (not) happen 50 years from now while children at dying of hunger and disease NOW.

Reply to  pete
November 20, 2016 7:19 am

Pete, This income redistribution will never help the poor in the Third World. It will only harm the poor in rich countries.
Income redistribution a la the UN: Take money from poor people in rich countries and give it to rich people in poor countries.
Al Gore or John Kerry aren’t going to lose a thing.

TA
Reply to  RobRoy
November 20, 2016 7:43 pm

Excellent summation of income distribution, UN-style, RobRoy.

pete
November 20, 2016 4:42 am

Obama increased the federal debt from 8 trillion to 20 trillion with nothing to show for it. Not even a dummy Mars lander.

Reply to  pete
November 20, 2016 7:22 am

Mr.President gave away 5 million cell phones in his first term and won by three million votes the second term.

asybot
Reply to  RobRoy
November 20, 2016 12:47 pm

The phones were free alright but the phone bills? Not so much apparently.

highflight56433
Reply to  pete
November 20, 2016 11:46 am

Yep

Reasonable Skeptic
November 20, 2016 5:08 am

” This conference has been taking place in Africa, it was generally agreed that there should be more money, ”
Why? The geographic location of the conference means more money? If they had the conference in Stockholm it would mean less money?
It is generally agreed that people that attend COP conferences have no clue.

mountainape5
November 20, 2016 5:29 am

Why would the US give any dime to countries in Africa?
Are there no more poor people left in America?

MarkW
Reply to  mountainape5
November 21, 2016 10:39 am

Compared to most of the rest of the world, there are no poor people in the US.
Remember, the official poverty line is set as a fraction of either average or median income.
As the US gets richer, it takes more money in order to no longer be poor.

co2islife
November 20, 2016 6:27 am

Take a look at this graph. Clearly temperature is oscillating from the start in 1983 to about 1998. That is also the period where actual data was being used. I assume the period post-1998 are the forecasts. What kind of modeler takes an oscillating object, and then forecasts its behavior to become linear? You have curvilinear data prior to 1998, and that curvilinear data creates a linear forecast? That is a complete joke. By what possible mechanism do they outline that could turn a curvilinear object into a linear object in the post-1998 period? How does this “science” have any credibility at all?comment image

techgm
Reply to  co2islife
November 20, 2016 6:35 am

Plus, the 70s were a period of cooling.

dan no longer in CA
Reply to  co2islife
November 20, 2016 11:12 am

Are these temperatures as recorded, or after ‘adjustment’?

TA
Reply to  dan no longer in CA
November 20, 2016 7:53 pm

Dan, The UAH satellite has had minimal adjustments while the Hadcrut4 surface chart is the product of much larger adjustments. The most accurate, dependable chart, imo, is the UAH chart. As you can see, it is running much cooler than nearly all the CAGW models predict.

TA
Reply to  dan no longer in CA
November 20, 2016 7:57 pm

And Dan, as you can see, this original UAH satellite chart looks a little different from the UAH profile on the combination chart. Notice the year 1998 on both charts. On the original, which accompanies this post, you can see that 1998 appears higher than it does on the combination chart. I don’t know why there is this discrepancy, but go by the original in this post, not the combination chart.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_October_2016_v6.gif

TA
Reply to  co2islife
November 20, 2016 7:48 pm

“How does this “science” have any credibility at all?”
It has no credibility. It is pure speculation. The chart is a visualization of just how much they have failed. But when your livelihood depends on it, you will hang on to the speculation as hard as you can and that’s why climate alarmists keep repeating their mantra of “hotter and hotter”.

techgm
November 20, 2016 6:31 am

“It was generally agreed that there should be more money.”
What a shock. The left and other ne’er-do-wells always agree that should be more money, especially when it’s OPM.

mikerestin
Reply to  techgm
November 20, 2016 10:54 am

I read The 5000 Year Leap.
Africa had real head start and what have they got to show for it?

observa
November 20, 2016 6:35 am

“I’m a little worried by the lack of financial support to help poor countries adapt. This conference has been taking place in Africa, it was generally agreed that there should be more money, but in concrete terms unfortunately these decisions failed to materialise,”
It’s a familiar tale-
http://www.wattclarity.com.au/2016/11/a-big-disconnect-between-words-and-actions/

Scott
November 20, 2016 7:11 am

“It was generally agreed there should be more money”
They really didn’t know where the money came from, but they knew if they created an climate change effigy of some sort and chanted the right things, manna would magically appear. Basically sounds like a cargo cult that actually produced manna for a while. Doomed to eventually fail because that’s the thing about socialism, it’s great until you run out of other peoples money. I’m not going to call them stupid though, because it would have been stupid to not participate and turn down free manna.
When the money stops, the chanting is not going to stop for decades. They will honesty believe if they keep chanting the right things the money will magically appear. The damage inflicted by the climate fraud will be incalculable.

Dodgy Geezer
November 20, 2016 7:21 am

PLEASE….
Cut the finance – fine. But, whatever else you do, get some real, open unbiased science shone on the issue of Global Warming. In particular, look for the Tropospheric Hot-Spot. Do this all in the open. Examine the temperature history data and the adjustments. Look at all the findings…
This fraud will continue so long as the scientists are able to keep their dodgy data coming. Attack the problem at the root.

graphicconception
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
November 20, 2016 9:51 am

I had similar thoughts. Why not stop funding AGW and from now on only fund Natural GW? The number of papers supporting NGW would “necessarily sky-rocket” as a result.

Bruce Cobb
November 20, 2016 7:50 am

Fiji to chair next year’s climate bash in Bonn: http://www.radionz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/318452/fiji-to-chair-next-year's-big-un-climate-meeting,-cop-23
Figures. With Fiji, you not only have a small island country first in line for climate cash, but you get the double-whammy appeal to emotion with the myth that they are vanishing beneath the waves, and the fact that they are tiny. They are already trying to brow-beat and Guilt Trump into changing his position.

Rhoda R
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 20, 2016 12:55 pm

I hope the federal government declines to fund any travel to cop23.

Resourceguy
November 20, 2016 8:50 am

Where’s the money? Still in my pocket

mikerestin
Reply to  Resourceguy
November 20, 2016 10:56 am

I paid my mortgage with my money.

Green Sand
Reply to  Resourceguy
November 20, 2016 2:02 pm

Aye, so is mine and that is where it is staying!

Resourceguy
Reply to  Resourceguy
November 21, 2016 7:33 am

….and it’s going to stay in my pocket over the next four years too.

tom s
November 20, 2016 9:02 am

Drain this G$$dam swamp! 100’S of billions to fight climate change? WTF? Disgusting on all fronts and especially so knowing that some of my personal funds are going to these complete, unadulterated thieves!

Newminster
November 20, 2016 9:40 am

Interesting that while the words “climate change” still appear, more and more they leave the impression that they are there only because there is a “tradition” that they should be, like mince pies and holly at Christmas (sorry, Americans will have to think up their own examples maybe!), everyone does it but nobody can remember why.
They are at last getting close to coming clean on this and admitting what Edenhofer said six years ago, that the IPCC and all these climate shindigs are nothing to do with climate and everything to do with redistributing the world’s wealth away from rich countries.
But past experience (and the pronouncements of the likes of Strong, Ehrlich and others) tell us that actually making poor countries wealthier is most emphatically not on the agenda. So where exactly is this money supposed to go after Europe and the USA have been suitably impoverished?

imamenz
November 20, 2016 9:57 am

Give them some of that internet money!

john
November 20, 2016 10:08 am

France has placed a pretty big bet on wind power and….
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201611201047648386-france-no-electricity/

Stephen Richards
Reply to  john
November 20, 2016 10:57 am

This is the socialist EU supporters. Hollande ‘s first fanny wants to close half of our nuclear and replace it with solar and windmills. They are destroying our ancient forests and wildlife as well as the only profitable industry in france , Tourism.
If there is anyone more stupid than a socialist I have yet to meet them and I have met some very stupid people.

November 20, 2016 11:03 am

Donald Trump expected to slash Nasa’s climate change budget in favour of sending humans back to the moon – and beyond
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/20/donald-trump-expected-to-slash-nasas-climate-change-budget-in-fa/