Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Nicholas Sarkozy, former president of France, who is currently running again for President, has demanded Europe impose a carbon tax on imported US goods if Trump pulls out of the Paris Agreement.
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The primary candidate for the right Nicolas Sarkozy has proposed Sunday, November 13, the implementation of a carbon tax on US products imported into Europe , if the President elect Donald Trump denounced the agreement of Paris on the climate.
“Donald Trump said he would not meet – we’ll see if he takes this commitment – the conclusions of the Paris agreement on climate. Well I ask that Europe is adopting a carbon tax at the borders of Europe, a tax of 1 to 3% for all products that come from the United States if the United States is exempt from environmental rules, we impose on our businesses.”
“We can not find in a situation where our businesses have obligations but where we continue to import products from countries that meet none of those obligations”, he pleaded on TF1.
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Read more (original French): http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2016/11/13/sarkozy-propose-une-taxe-carbone-si-trump-denonce-l-accord-sur-le-climat_5030514_823448.html
This isn’t the first time European politicians have demanded a Carbon tax on countries they perceive as less environmentally pure than themselves. A previous European attempt to impose a carbon tax on international airlines foundered when everyone else refused to pay.
The concept of carbon taxing other countries has repeatedly reared its head on the world stage, the latest incarnation being a UN brokered agreement to impose an airline carbon tax on everyone.
The description of arch-globalist and climate fanatic Nicolas Sarkozy as being the primary candidate for the French Right is open to question – Marine Le Pen, a Donald Trump like figure in French politics, has a serious chance of winning the upcoming French Presidential Election.
EW – Corrected the name of Marine Le Pen
There is no “Marie Le Pen”.
There are :
Marine Le Pen
Marion Maréchal-Le Pen
When will someone proof read the posts?
maybe they meant Pepe Le-Pen !
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When did Stallone move to France and change his name to Sarkozy? /sar Great picture.
U JEST DID
Imagine France without Chinese products – oh I forgot, their requirements are entirely voluntary, so they are “in compliance.” Monsieur Le Penn? – ici votre chanson, et bon chance!!!
Monsieur Le Penn? I think you have the wrong person.
Mademoiselle Le Penn, actually. In previous elections, the French legacy parties have rallied behind the candidate most likely to beat the FN in a stitch-up of epic proportions. It is to be hoped that the French electorate hand out the sort of chastisement that BREXIT voters and Trump voters handed out to their legacy party elites. but I’m not overly optimistic.
FREXITE?
yes I imagine and hope – first, not to send any flax to china or india and we do not need monsieur “le pen” – we could have Mr François ASSELINEAU (ww.u.p.r.fr )
we have been able to manufacture many things in the past – why not now –
le Front National is now in the hands of his daughter and a niece. The daughter expelled he father M. Le Pen earlier this year. Sarkozy may not get past the primaries in the next few weeks. Le Pen will not win the presidency because the other parties won’t let her. It is a tradition in france. Most likely to be president (at the moment) is Juppé a former fraudster who spent time in prison on behalf of his party’s masters.
Most french people are brainwashed greenies, IMHO. They are brainwashed at every turn. By their banks, by their shops, by their government, by their media. There are no loud anti AGW voices anywhere in france. They will keep pushing until the great collapse comes and will still keep pushing.
Their stupidity comes with a lot of Gallic pride and that’s what holds it all together. Even though they are utterly stupid they know the US can hurt them at lot more than they can hurt the US.
It was your stupid, communist kenyan dictator that set up the problem for the US, maybe deliberately by giving china free rein.
“Juppé a former fraudster who spent time in prison”
did NOT
He spent time in CANADA.
Mr. Le Penn? – here is your song, and good luck!!!
wǒ bù dǒng
Could be trying to point out that “Monsieur Le Penn?” is actually Madam Le Pen and and quite a handsome woman for a political powerhouse.
Well it used to be M Le pen, but he’s too old. Marine took the wheel and steered the party into slightly more acceptable and very popular waters.
I guess you used Google to translate this but it is wrong.
“Le candidat à la primaire de la droite ” does not mean he is the primary candidate for the right it means he is a candidate in the french primaries. Alain Juppe is the front runner to represent the centre right . Marine Le Pen will represent the FN and will be a separate candidate on the ballot from whichever of the precending two gets to represent the centre right.
Sarko is not well liked by many on the right and has been in and out of legal proceedings since he was voted out of office last time he was pres.
He can’t match Clinton’s world class corruption but may be the Clintonesque candidate for the french presidency.
“On ne peut pas se retrouver dans une situation où …”
This means: we can not allow ourselves to end up in a situation where ..
Google translate has it’s limitations !
If Anthony of EW need a french translation for future articles you have my email and I would be more than happy to oblige.
“Well it used to be M Le pen, but he’s too old”
No, Alain “Ali” Juppé is old, and that doesn’t seem to hurt him (if you believe the polls which are certainly extremely biased).
Jean-Marie Le Pen is too fond of jokes about the aspect of Jews, and discussing whether the gas chambers are a detail of the history of WWII (or even made up).
http://www.ina.fr/video/CAB87032378
Not that he really believes any of that. He just loves the gratuitous provocation. It’s very obvious in the silences of his interviews – you can’t see that in the transcript. He may be a provocation addict.
Jean-Marie Le Pen was part of the 1956 « Opération Mousquetaire » against the nationalization of the Suez canal by Nasser, a French-British-Israeli operation.
It is Madame Le Pen. Monsieur Le Pen is her father, now in his dotage.
Jean-Marie Le Pen has been excluded from the FN as a member (decision of “tribunal de grande instance de Nanterre”).
He had been suspended from the party by the “bureau exécutif” of the FN (4 may 2015); the decision was cancelled by the tribunal de grande instance (TGI) de Nanterre later in 2015.
Jean-Marie Le Pen is now only the “president d’honneur” of the party he founded.
I disconnected completely from the French language, when I had the experience of trying to find my Sister in a Geneva hospital where she had been lying in bed for 13 months, being experimented on by some Professor at the hospital. The second day I visited her in that hospital she happened to not be in her bed in the room she had been in for those 13 months, so I asked for her of one of the French nurses who had been taking care of her all that time.
She did not recognize my sister’s Irish family name, because I did not pronounce it in their phony French discombobulation of her name.
How the hell can you not understand ” Dulin ” ?? It’s Irish, you morons. They sent me to a different department on a different floor in a different building where an administrator told me that there was no such patient in the hospital. Same reason; couldn’t understand her Irish name.
Finally discovered she was right back exactly where she had been for 13 months, and was the first day I visited her.
But anyhow, we will be sure to apply an import tariff on any French wines, that get exported to California; well if any do, now and then when they make a good one. We are used to getting good California wines that they make every year.
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“a tax of 1 to 3% for all products”
Yep, for a given hypothesis (no climate target what so ever in the US, targets as specified in the COP(n) pact), this little guy just doesn’t know what the corrective factor should be. Between 1 and 3.
This is in line with “predictions” of climate “science”.
Well all theoretical climate modelled results have a built in 3:1 range of error.
In “How much Rain will Global Warming bring”, Wentz et al measured 7% increase per deg. C rise in mean global Temperature in one of the factors they measured. The GCMs had 1-3% for the same variable, about a 2 to 7 times error factor, from the measured value.
Total rubbish models.
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Brexit looks better and better.
Thanks to the freedom-loving people of the UK for leaving. Showed many of us here in the Colonies that it can be done.
Please. They have the same trade with China that we do, and China has much more lax environmental regulations than the French put on their domestic businesses. Even if the Chinese are participating in the Paris accord, it is to hamstring their competition.
No matter. Let France start a trade war with us. They are not the only ones that can impose import duties, and they depend a lot more on our business than we do on theirs. Put a 50% tax on French cheese. Less pissy intervention from the surrender monkeys, more money for Wisconsin. Win/win.
Oh, how about a 50% import duty on Airbus aircraft.
The only problem with that is that not all the parts are made in France. The wings and engines are make in the UK and transported to France for assembly. Many other parts are made elsewhere in the EU and transported to France, buy road and truck.
When the A380 was going into production, there were delays. We contracted with Airbus to store material to protect it from UV exposure. They were soft aluminum extrusions that were to be machined into stringers for the wings.
They were brought to us in the U.S. loaded on flat racks by ocean carrier. The manifest stated they were forged in a foundry in France. We were located 3 miles from Ralee Engineering who is a subsidiary of Triumph Structures and did the machining work.
Remember when the EU demanded co2 tax on all fligths into Europe? Didn’t get very far.
Got that right.
Every country already makes its own soda water. Easy enough to make your own Champagne..
California Champagne is excellent, and affordable.
But our Government caved in, and we can’t call one of our great products Champagne. We have to label it Methode Champagnois, or some such foolisness.
Since when did the French start making cheese ??
Cheese comes from either Tilamook, or Wisconsin.
Well we even make cheese in California.
I personally like the New Zealand “Blue Vein” cheese. You can easily tell when you have enough on your plate. If you put any more than enough on your plate, your plate will walk off on its own !
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Wasn’t there some report in the past 6 months that Nicolas Sarkozy had a “come to Jesus” moment on AGW and had emerged a “skeptic” ?
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/15/nicolas-sarkozy-becomes-a-global-warming-skeptic-in-his-bid-to-beat-frances-socialist-president/
There sure washed off pretty darn quick.
Taxing air …
That should do it then.
Pushing Trump like that virtually guarantees that Trump pulls out of the Paris Agreement.
Another win.
That should do it .
Telling Trump to stay will make him leave.
Another win
United Staes CO2 emissions are going down, the European Union CO2 emissions are going up. Tax thyself, Sarkozy.
Ooh – you are soooo right! Excellent comment! +1000
However France is about te lowest emitting nation in Europe on account of extensive hydro and massive nuclear deployment.
Yeah, we need to come up with a carbon tax for Germany for shutting down the nukes and shifting to low grade coal.
Nah, just take the carbon tax revenue off the NATO funding and reduce troop numbers accordingly. EU must always remember where their security comes from. GK
He is – his statement illustrates the utter imbecility of Sarkozy.
Who will pay the tax? The people how buy the imports. who buys the imports? The French.
The US producers aren’t going to stump up cash and then not put the cost onto their products – that’s how taxing businesses always works Businesses taxes are always – except in the very short term – paid by consumers and/or employees in a competitive market.
That has to be so, because in a competitive market prices are at the lowest level that gives an acceptable return to investors. Try and reduce the return to investors and either you get no investment or you get prices rises and/or restraint on costs (e..g. no pay rises, job losses etc.)
You are taking Sarkozy literally but not seriously.
The joker’s tax proposal is not really about CO2, it’s about backhanding upstart Trump and the US electorate.
“The primary candidate for the right Nicolas Sarkozy …” is in favor of a carbon tax. Boy, they really are different in Europe.
And strangely, “Sarko” is considered Trump-like!
That’s what we (Brits) have been saying for years! France is only 26 miles from our shoreline (and, unfortunately, connected to us via a tunnel). But they could be on the other side of the world. Having met LOTS of French people, I can say that we are SO different. We share nothing in common…nothing. We have no ‘likeness’ to any Europeans at all. We were never really going to be a part of it, we just think differently. Now, thanks to Brexit, we are out. Well, nearly, if our Prime Minister could pull her finger out.
Spot on.
Well, we do. French was the official language at one time, and many English words are derived from French. But I get your point.
Patrick, I’ve got no particular problem with the French, or the Germans, or the Italians, etc. My point is that British people are completely different from ALL Europeans. We don’t think alike, act alike, our humour is different, our outlook is different. We even drive on the correct side of the road!
Stephen Clarke has written several books tweaking the French, including 1000 Years onto Annoying the French, on Amazon at https://www.amazon.com/Years-Annoying-French-Stephen-Clarke-ebook/dp/B007COJYCM/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1479496202&sr=1-1&keywords=1000+years+of+annoying+the+french
I finally watched “The Sorrow And The Pity”. Now I misunderstand the French even better. Machiavelli must have really been French.
Bazzer (and other Brits here), where does sovereignty lay in the UK? Is it with the people or with the Parliament (presumably no longer with the monarch)?
If sovereignty is with the people, then how is Parliament able to give away power to Brussels that it did not own? If sovereignty is with Parliament, then why is a referendum on the EU even necessary?
Finally, if sovereignty in the UK is with the people (as I suspect and hope), then why isn’t the original EU enabling treaty illegal? If the treaty was illegal, then why need Article 50 be invoked? Why can’t the UK just walk away?
And if the treaty was illegal, then why would the UK supposedly owe the EU money for past budget whatevers?
“If the treaty was illegal, then why need Article 50 be invoked? Why can’t the UK just walk away?”
Because it would violate international law is the usual answer, which of course leads to the next question: so what? That’s what you have a military for!
Article 50 allows for a negotiation, ostensibly to get a reasonable, peaceful divorce, something the Euro MP and the heads of states of EU members have ruled out, going as far as wishing a very bad deal as a dissuasion against other divorces. Then the UK says it will take the “hard brexit” route, then they reply that “hard brexit implies hard negotiation”, which doesn’t even make sense, as “hard brexit” means no post breakup deal at all, and necessitates exactly zero negotiation.
Obviously people afraid of starting 2 years of breakup negotiations are not willing to try a non-negotiated breakup!
I think the “article 50” judges understand French judicial practice extremely well.
(Sorry. Couldn’t resist.)
“Pat Frank November 18, 2016 at 5:04 pm
Bazzer (and other Brits here), where does sovereignty lay in the UK? Is it with the people or with the Parliament (presumably no longer with the monarch)?
If sovereignty is with the people, then how is Parliament able to give away power to Brussels that it did not own? If sovereignty is with Parliament, then why is a referendum on the EU even necessary?”
Thanks to William Pitt, sovereignty no longer lays with a monarch. The monarch is still a figure head and can dissolve parliament, but that is about it. Politicians will do what they want. Britain has Ted Heath (Tory) to thank for injecting Britain in to the Common Market/ECC effective Jan 1st 1974 without a mandate from the people. You could compare it to Obama and executive orders, bypassing Congress.
Sovereignty ultimately is, from, and with the people – obviously. Parliament has already had a vote on the EU (the BBC keeps failing to mention it). They decided 6 to 1 to give people a referendum to decide. The statement given by the government was literally:
“We will implement what you decide”
No further vote is needed, and I can tell you that Brexit will happen, it’s just a matter of when. Negotiations are required, but I would prefer it if there was (VERY soon) a date set for total withdrawal. Needless to say, we will have to make a financial contribution to the EU – because they cannot survive without our money! But I would prefer some form of ‘hard’ Brexit.
‘The Right’ in EU is slightly right of May Zedong.
Mao-dang my phones illiterate word bungled.
Actually, the major right French party, UMP (union des moutons de Panurge, or something) signed a “protocol” with the China Communist Party:
http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2009/10/22/01011-20091022FILWWW00521-un-accord-entre-le-pc-chinois-et-l-ump.php
I won’t translate because I suck at it and I don’t even understand what that even means (I understand every word but no sentence) or whether it meant anything, except that’s kind of a wedding or engagement between what actually passes in France for a strong right/far right/extreme economically liberal party and the party of Mao.
Sarkozy’s proposal is not feasible.
First, it is Brussels rather than Paris that sets border taxes.
Second, it is against WTO rules to impose a border tax unless there is an equivalent domestic tax. There is not.
Sarkozy is posturing and sloganeering.
Ah. Yes. Excellent points. Thank you, Richard.
There are 27 nation states in the “EU”. It is extremely difficult to find a consensus amongst them.
Sarkozy is nothing but a poisonous dwarf.
Thanks for the info and clarity, Richard.
As they all are at the moment.
He says at the borders of Europe, not at the borders of France. As for the WTO rules, not sure what you are saying is correct. The WTO sets maximum tariffs that can be charged on imports. The EU already has significant tariffs on many goods from outside the EU. It can increase those if it wishes to.
Richard: Donald Trump doesn’t sound like he expects to be constrained by WTO rules. So why do you think Sarkozy, France or the EU will be willing to be constrained by them?
Rightly or wrongly (mostly the latter), CAGW is passionately accepted by much of the developed world. If they cut their emissions 30%, 50% or even 80%, some of the benefits they expect to gain will be lost when other countries don’t reduce their emissions or grow their emissions. Most of that problem comes from growing emissions by less developed countries (they all want to follow China’s economic path fueled by cheap fossil fuels), but no one expects those countries to restrain their growth in emissions unless all richer countries are doing so. As an economist, don’t you think that one sensible response under these conditions is to try to apply a Pigou tax* to goods exported from countries that ignore the negative externalities associated with the CO2 emissions? Particularly countries that can afford to pay this tax?
International trade is under attack worldwide. I can see many developed countries being will to sacrifice the WTO and the current system to punish countries that “refuse to do their fair share”. I find Sarkozy’s remarks scary, but not ludicrous.
Except there ARE no negative “externalities” to CO2 emissions, but there are massive negative externalities to policies proposed in the name of “climate change.”
AGW is Not Science: President Sarkozy believes there are negative externalities. In light of his sincere beliefs, his comments appear rational, not ludicrous and increasingly likely in a world where international trade is under attack.
I’m glad you are confident that there will be no negative externalities associated with rising GHGs. IMO, however, both belief in CAGW and the non-existence of AGW BOTH has strong elements of a religion. Science is what lies between these extremes and comes with a health respect for uncertainty.
“President Sarkozy believes there are negative externalities”
No, he does not.
“In light of his sincere beliefs”
The man has no sincere beliefs.
“his comments appear rational, not ludicrous and increasingly likely in a world where international trade is under attack”
Nope. IF he really entertained this belief, his comment would make no sense what so ever.
1) The Paris pact has not been ratified.
2) The Paris pact doesn’t define pollution (*) limits.
3) China is the biggest polluter, and is allowed to INCREASE its pollution.
(*) for people who believe that CO2 is pollution, which is taken for granted for the sake of your inept argument, so no quote around “pollution”
simple-touriste: I bow to you superior wisdom. I can’t look into Sarkozy’s mind see what he knows about climate change and recognize that he holds no sincere beliefs about it – after more than two decades of propaganda. /sarc
I do know that the Paris Treaty has been ratified and is in force – in force according to the terms of this agreement. The Paris Treaty was not approved as a treaty or executive agreement in the US, so no US Court should uphold its provisions. The Paris Treaty is a treaty of “national aspirations” and other countries are going to respond negatively when our aspiration to do them less harm – as they see it – changes.
The treaty doesn’t provide limits to CO2 emissions, but it does contain Intended Nationally Determined Contributions (INDC) to reduce CO2 emissions. China pledged to reduce emissions as a percentage of GDP by 65% by 2030. If the Chinese GDP were to grow at a rate 7% per year (today’s target), it would be 2.6X bigger in 2030 than it is today and that 65% reduction as a percentage of GDP would turn into a 10% reduction in emissions in absolute terms. Given that Chinese economic growth has been driven by debt-fueled spending and that debt has reached dangerous levels, perhaps 3% annual growth in GDP would be a more reasonable estimate. That would be a 50% increase in GDP and a 47% reductions in total emissions! Of course, these are INTENDED contributions and know one knows what will happen if (when) Chinese economic grow slows.
How do you define “biggest” emitter? Total emissions? Emissions per capita? Emissions per GDP?
“I can’t look into Sarkozy’s mind see what he knows about climate change and recognize that he holds no sincere beliefs about it”
1) Sarkozy tried to pass a CO2 tax once and then dropped the idea.
2) Sarkozy organized a big conference with enviros to defined ecoloon targets
3) Sarkozy said something like “enough with environmentalism” in a speech about agriculture
4) Sarkozy said that climate has been changing before industrial revolution and we don’t know about much mankind contributes to climate change.
5) and now he wants a CO2 import tax?
COME ON! You don’t to be a mind reader to know the guy is full of air.
“other countries are going to respond negatively when our aspiration to do them less harm – as they see it – changes.”
France receives the air pollution of “green” Germany and its coal plants and its industry, in addition to its own local French air pollution. There is a very big pollution cloud around Germany.
France’s EDF suffers from the predatory behavior of “green” energy producers, mostly in Germany. France’s milk producers suffer from the predatory behavior of “green” agriculture energy producers, mostly in Germany. There is a long list of market issues caused by ecoloon subsidies.
This is a clear violation of the most fundamental principe of European Union: free trade with no market manipulation. The German energy transition is a massive fraud and legitimate producers suffer from it in Europe.
We in France have enough of Germany’s arrogance. Esp. coming from a bigger CO2 emitter.
What would Donald Trump do? I would go after the ones rigging the market.
The damages caused by low energy prices on the European grid are well documented, it’s time to act and go after the market manipulators. At the same time, customers pay more and more for energy, obviously.
It’s ridiculous that France, with its very low carbon electric production, would even consider CO2 reduction before other country try to come close.
But now Sarkozy is out of the race, and he latest change of tune probably helped.
And that’s just the ticket to election, ain’t it? 😉
That photo looks like “hands up, don’t shoot “
Put one hand up over your head if you’re annoyed by the French…
Put BOTH hands up over your head if you ARE French!!!
Fidiot!
Hang on a minute… Wasn’t this the guy who came out as a skeptic a little while ago? Or am I thinking of some other former French president wanted to be re-elected?
“Wasn’t this the guy who came out as a skeptic a little while ago?”
Yep. In the same interview, he can make an argument based on the “precautionary principle” (which is part of the ever changing French Constitution) and say we need to repeal that “principle”.
They are turncoats. All of them.
He is very Trump-like, he can say something one day and the opposite on the next day, just to get one more voice.
Sarkozy is famous for saying “enough with environmentalism” (in relation with agriculture), after he made the “Grenelle de l’environnement” which is codename for a big “trans-partisan” orgy of civil society (codename for leftist lobby groups) “negotiation” of inept enviro targets, such as huge reduction of use of agriculture pesticides, which are already strictly controlled: French farmer aren’t even allowed to use atrazine! or Gaucho, or Regent. And now “Ségo” (Ségolène Royal) wants to ban glyphosate!!! And neonic of course…
Sarkozy as a President also created a CO2 tax that was voted by the “right” MPs then blocked by the CC (conseil constitutionnel) because only small businesses had to pay it – big businesses were covered by the (currently oversupplied) EU quota system.
As a “right wing”, “economically ultra-liberal”, “neo-liberal” President, Nicolas Sarkozy invented many taxes.
As long as it is applied to every imports and every exports it could be reasonable but to apply it to a particular country could be contrary to WTO. On the other hand, tracking the carbon emission of each product could just break the whole charade. The EU-27 committed reduction is limited to ” domestic emission”. The EU-27 strategy is to take the moral high ground by limiting their economic output to high value end products like watches, pharmaceuticals, etc but importing all the energy intensive materials and ignoring the emissions from the early stages of processing such as iron ore to steel. Just like the jet setting climate alarmists. This means letting the emissions in other countries like China, India and other developing countries smart enough to see the charade to increase and support the EU-27 position. At the same time given the highly advantageous deal, China and India could not help but go along with the charade. After 2030, China , India and those countries that took advantage of the exports of energy intensive products will demand passing the emission to the end user. In the post 2030 scenario, China and India could claim when pushed for real reduction will start claiming that more than 50 per cent of their emissions are for exports to EU-27 and should be added to the EU-27 emission inventory rather than in their national inventory.
“Domestic” here means “in the EU-area”. The EU-Commission cannot, however, force single countries to have a certain reduction-goal, not to speak of real, proved reductions. If the EU-goal is 100, but the sum of the individual goals is 60, nothing will happen – no fines, no crises – just some moaning and groaning.
I like french cinema but I don’t watch the stinkers twice.
Not an original thought but I beleive one which bears keeping in mind. The EU experiment in buerueacratic government has created an economically unsustainable and uncompetitive entity. To keep it functioning at all they need to spread their policies to thier competitors. Its why the UAW fights hardest for the first contract which sets the standard.
Paris must be repudiated not only because it perpetuates bad science and policy but because it was not ratified by our Senate.
Ah! Brigitte Bardot (God Created Woman). I still have the hots for her.
You wouldn’t if you saw her now. A fanatic green, animal protector anti everything and very wrangled skin.
Their nastiest export is deconstructionism which led to postmodernism. (I’m sure it was started as a practical joke by a French guy named Jacques Derrida.) The idea is that all knowledge, including science, is a social construct. It has infested our colleges and a generation of students. Alan Sokal pointed out how stupid the postmodernists are.
If you think the average leftist is separated from reality, postmodernism may be to blame.
And over-abstraction in general. Valuing the idea of something over the thing itself. Valuing the searching over the finding. Valuing method over substance, the ideal over the real. Building beautiful castles in the sand and acting surprised when the tide washes them away.
The progressives have little patience for mundane matters like the details or the possible unintended consequences. What matters is the noble goal! (And it’s ALWAYS a noble one.) It’s how they can maintain an intellectual love affair with socialism after history repeatedly proves it a bad idea. Because there’s no such thing as a bad progressive goal, only bad implementation. That no GOOD implementation could exist is a possibility never considered. Point that possibility out to them and you need to be educated (read: indoctrinated). Refute their claims and you’re using bad logic (read: any logical argument that doesn’t support the progressive narrative). The indignance on display will be immediate and venemous. You’ll go from acceptable company to a bad person who should be shunned so fast you’ll get whiplash.
The French deconstructionist philosphers are alleged to have said about capitalism
“Its all very well to say it works in practice but it just does not work
in theory”!!
“Its all very well to say it works in practice but it just does not work
in theory”!!
Yogi Berra said it best: “In Theory, there’s no difference between Practice and Theory. In Practice, there is.”
I don’t like movies. I did see a French movie I liked. Funny as hell. Some chap called Jack Tate.
That was way back before way back machines.
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Why not put a tax on the emissions every time a bottle of Champagne is opened?
leave it, force them to sell Dom Perignon for pennies on the dollar. Force its price down below Old Duke and M.D. 20/20
I love a bargain.
mike
and each time you fart (or the cows)
This is a complete flip flop of Sarkozy’s recent trash talk of the global warming scam .
Maybe he likes to play up to the anti -American sentiment to buy some votes . In 1945 that might have been a tough sell after France let Germany take over . Memories are apparently as short as Sarkozy .
It’s a scam Mr.Sarkozy . Why not try to be on the right side of history for a change .
I would be willing to bet most of the great people of France have long seen through one of the largest scams in history . Maybe that judgement is why he is no longer President and won’t be again .
Leaders can’t lead following the crowd . Vive la France !
His French economy is in deep trouble, right wing politicians are gaining ground and all he is worried about is a perfectly safe gas, co2, essential for life and plant growth.
This is the economic suicide this Global Warming issue has always been for the US. We’ve allowed a group of misguided, arrogant, self-important, self-aggrandizing liberal professors and environmental groups to put the entire US Economy at risk.
“Nicolas Sarkozy”
So why just “Trump”? He has a first name also.
Why just Trump ? Because he’s a card.
Or an old fart …see 5 below.
noun
1. a trumpet or the sound produced by one
2. See the last trump
verb
3. (intransitive) to produce a sound upon or as if upon the trumpet
4. (transitive) to proclaim or announce with or as if with a fanfare
5. (intransitive) British slang to expel intestinal gas through the anus
Collins English Dictionary. Copyright © Harper Collins Publishers
Word origin of ‘trump’
C13: from Old French trompe, from Old High German trumpa trumpet; compare trombone
He’s a bottom-cough?
Actually, dare I say it, I rather LIKE the Trump.
Fearfully Flawed, but a ‘serviceable finical rogue’
KENT
Fellow, I know thee.
OSWALD
What dost thou know me for?
KENT
A knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a
base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited,
hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a
lily-livered, action-taking knave, a whoreson,
glass-gazing, super-serviceable finical rogue;
one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be a
bawd, in way of good service, and art nothing but
the composition of a knave, beggar, coward, pandar,
and the son and heir of a mongrel bitch: one whom I
will beat into clamorous whining, if thou deniest
the least syllable of thy addition.
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Don’t hold back there, Shakespeare, tell it like it is…
Groove gives us Feb, Apr, Mar, to dump on their market.
michael
feb mar apr
good beer
How the Germans roll. Wacker Chemie takes huge taxpayer incentives to open a polysilicone plant in Tennessee. This is an energy intensive process. Wacker supports solar and politicians who push it because the hope to sell the raw material to make the glass. The Wankers at Wacker get their green politicians to vote a bill that endemnifies Wacker if electric prices increase due to green policies.
All true my friends. The Wacker wankers xxx have no shame.
All I could read was Willy Wonka & the Tennessee factory.
Well breast implants are out of fashion, so there no longer is a market for polysilicone.
g
Carbon tax on the carbon content all things (including people) coming from France. 100 kg of Frenchman is 18.5 kg of carbon way over 300 ppm