Does the President have Unconstrained Power to Send Billions to the UN for Climate?

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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The new Paris Climate Agreement is opening some real questions on the constitutional boundaries of the power of the President of the United States.

Obama has pledged to contribute up to $3 billion in U.S. spending on the Green Climate Fund, including $500 million in fiscal year 2016.

The Green Climate Fund is pool of money where developed countries, with contributions from public and private sources, help developing nations confront climate change.

The climate change agreement does not legally bind countries to contribute money to the climate fund, but it sets the goal for rich countries to contribute together at least $100 billion per year.

A new spending bill appropriating money for this fiscal year — which is expected to be voted on by lawmakers this week – does not assign money for the Green Climate Fund.

But Republicans were unable to attach a proposed policy provision that would have explicitly blocked Obama from sending federal money to the Green Climate Fund.

In addition, the $1.1 trillion spending bill does not prohibit the administration from transferring money from other accounts for the climate fund.

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I am not an American, but I suggest that if the President of the United States has the power to send billions of dollars to foreign countries, and majority votes in the Congress and Senate are powerless to prevent this enormous diversion of taxpayer’s money, then the US Congress and Senate are as irrelevant to the process of the governance of the United States, as the toothless Roman Senate was under the Caesars.

In 1788, President George Washington refused to be king, and created a Presidential office which was limited by the US Constitution.

The climate “emergency” has created a pretext, a convenient crisis, which in my opinion has undermined the constitutional balance of power established by the Founding Fathers, perhaps irrevocably.

If the Senate and the House of Representatives cannot restore the balance of power which was established by the original US Constitution, then the United States, for better or worse, is no longer the Republic which the founding fathers created in 1788.

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John Peter
December 17, 2015 5:04 am

If that is true then the republican candidates for the presidency (and the one selected) will just have to campaign on a platform that only they will preserve the Constitution.

D.J. Hawkins
Reply to  John Peter
December 18, 2015 10:20 am

If that position threatens to upset the status quo for the 47% of income earners not paying the income tax, don’t expect it to be widely hailed.

Tom Judd
December 17, 2015 5:06 am

Heh, it’s not like it’s his own money.

Reply to  Tom Judd
December 17, 2015 5:15 am

But it is his stash

December 17, 2015 5:08 am

A big part of the problem is that many ‘republicans’ in congress aren’t really Republicans. Case in point is Paul Ryan.

Reply to  kramer
December 17, 2015 5:11 am

Maybe your thinking of Rand Paul ??

Mark T
Reply to  Marcus
December 17, 2015 5:48 am

Rand Paul is a libertarian, actually the only true capitalist in the group.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Marcus
December 17, 2015 9:00 am

No, he’s thinking of Paul Ryan.

Reply to  kramer
December 17, 2015 9:29 am

What is a “republican”?

D.J. Hawkins
Reply to  simple-touriste
December 18, 2015 10:22 am

Nowadays that is an excellent question. On the national level, the only difference I can see between the two parties is the speed at which the hand cart is headed to hell, not the direction.

December 17, 2015 5:10 am

Oh come on, I just had breakfast ! Did you really have to show that picture first thing in the morning ???

Tom Judd
Reply to  Marcus
December 17, 2015 5:47 am

Reminds me of the Rolling Stones’ tongue logo minus the tongue.

Reply to  Tom Judd
December 17, 2015 6:29 am

Or this:comment image

December 17, 2015 5:26 am

We see this often. Money that was destined to Third world country under other initiative (int’l development and/or cooperation) is relabeled as money for the Climate Fund. Same money, different label. The real question should be if a government assigns new money for the Fund. That’s when we have a real problem…

December 17, 2015 5:29 am

It’s one thing being concerned over the ‘controls’ of how money is contributed to this fund but who will police how it is to be spent? More Mercedes, arms and property abroad for the third world I bet!

Reply to  Steve
December 17, 2015 5:37 am

None of it will get to a place that helps the poor …

Reply to  Marcus
December 17, 2015 6:11 am

The money is not intended for the poor, it’s intended to change the weather.
It was called the ‘Paris CLIMATE Summit’ after all, not the ‘Paris Help the Poor Summit’.

Crispin in Waterloo but really in Beijing
Reply to  Marcus
December 17, 2015 6:38 am

Klem, good point. The climate fund will be used for monitoring and evaluation of compliance and fund raising, meeting venue rental, airfares and salaries. Like any well-run ‘development NGO’ it will be applied to the development of the NGO, deepening its roots, grip and pockets.
What remains will head to the producers of windmills. How that will help the poor and various typhoon victims (of climate change) is not so clear or well-practised.

Reply to  Marcus
December 17, 2015 7:45 am

BUT,the liberals keep saying ” it will help the poor ” , which it will not !!

Reply to  Marcus
December 17, 2015 9:56 am

As if anything liberals do, actually helps the poor.

Reply to  Marcus
December 17, 2015 2:47 pm
Reply to  Marcus
December 19, 2015 5:37 am

It will do neither, it will line the pockets of politicians and crony capitalists, that is why the establishment Globalist NEOCOS REPUBLICANS PUSHED FOR IT.

Reply to  johnS
December 19, 2015 6:32 am

The poor and developing countries are helped best by allowing them to build coal fired power plants.
Climate change policies kill jobs as industry moves abroad.
Centuries ago, land was the only source of energy, so land ownership was power. With windfarms we are moving back to this feudal times.

Jim Ryan
December 17, 2015 5:38 am

Look. Whether he has a right to do it and whether CAGW is happening depends upon the facts. Namely, what’s in it for me? If I am going to get power and money out of it, then he has a right and there is CAGW.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  Jim Ryan
December 17, 2015 10:43 pm

Jim, Eric: The Republican majority in the House and Senate are in bed with Obama. They are bound by their own cowardice. Big high tech and the Chamber of Commerce want cheaper workers and the Republicans are eager to oblige. The Democrats are cooperating with the lousy Republicans because they know untold millions of illegal and legal emigrants are a vast source of Democrat voters. It may be too late to prevent a Democrat Party tyranny (looks like they are getting a bonanza of new voters).
In 2010 and 2012 the voters gave Republicans the greatest majorities in Congress in more than a century. They were elected because of their promises to repeal Obamacare, get the budget under control, stop illegal immigration and free entry to terrorists, stop the CAGW nonsense, and support Constitutional government among many other things. As soon as they were elected, in a manner reminiscent of Quislings and Vichy French, they jumped in bed with the “Rule by Fiat” president Obama.
Many long-time Republicans have had enough. They know now that they cannot get reform by voting for establishment Republicans. The voters have few options left. They can try one more time to vote for conservative Republicans or they can seek to abolish the Republican Party and start a new conservative, constitutional, and patriotic party. The first option might not work, and the second is very hard to do without giving the Democrats permanent one-party rule. I do believe we are on the brink.

Samuel C. Cogar
Reply to  Leonard Lane
December 18, 2015 4:37 am

The US is done “over the brink” …… and falling fast. The currently in-charge Democrat-Republican “establishment” knows this to be a fact, but are unconcerned, because they also know that they have accumulated what they need …… and will be long gone by the time of the “crash” when the US hits “rock bottom” and civil unrest explodes into great turmoil. That is unless Donald Trump gets elected POTUS, and if so, said Democrat-Republican “establishment” knows damn well that they will be held accountable for both their actions and inactions before they have time to “fly the coop” ….. and that is exactly why they are doing their damndest, by hook or by crook, to prevent Donald Trump from being elected POTUS.
And another thing that scares the bejesus out of said Democrat-Republican “establishment” is that they also know there is nigh onto 100 million registered voters that didn’t bother to cast their votes in the past two (2) General Elections simply because they seen no purpose in voting for “the lesser of two (2) evils”. And they are the “sleeping giant” that Trump has awakened and offered them a “good reason” to cast their votes in the upcoming elections.

Reply to  Leonard Lane
December 18, 2015 8:55 am

It used to be when things got like this in other places, people would come here. There is no longer a “here” here so where do you think the “elites”, as they believe themselves to be, are going to go? The fact that our forefathers fought at Valley Forge barefoot, wearing rags and practically starving for us to get to the point where our choice for Leader of the Free World is between Hillary the Hideous Hypocritical Harridan and Donald Trump who was born on third base, believes he hit a triple and has used the government to enforce the law of Eminent Domain to attempt steal land from a poor widow (Vera Coking in Atlantic City) proves that our Founders, all of whom were bright, well read men, were naive and overly optimistic about human nature and created a system that was just too good for people. Chris Hedges, “Empire of Illusion: The Triumph of Spectacle over Literacy” as well as the movie, “Idiocracy” have come true in just over two centuries.
I’m 70 years old, plan on being around for another 23 and have no children. My wish for the American Left, their fellow travelers and all the other enablers of the culmination of a century of “Progressivism” is that they get exactly the form of government they want and live to see their children and grandchildren enslaved, robbed and murdered by that government. Hare Krishna and Arbeit Macht Frei!

Reply to  Nealstar
December 18, 2015 9:34 am

In the Vera Coking case, she was offered many times more than her property was worth and turned it down. Now that the gambling boom in Atlantic City is over, her property is worthless. Talk about people taking a stupid stand for ideological reasons …
Trump is a businessman and does things to strengthen the financial position of his interests. Nearly every past administration I’ve observed has had the result (unintended or otherwise) of weakening the financial position of our country. The fact that he is a die hard capitalist and the opposite of PC is why he is feared and reviled by both the left and the mainstream right. Both sides want a politician they can manipulate and not someone who abhors politics as usual.
Nobody thought a actor playing second fiddle to a monkey could ever be a good POTUS, but Regan turned out to be the best President we’ve had in recent memory.
The one thing I think Trump will excel at is surrounding himself with smart people with extensive private sector experience, rather than surrounding himself with political lackeys. That can only be good.

Reply to  Leonard Lane
December 18, 2015 7:06 pm

The value of Vera Coking’s property has zero to do with the discussion as the operative term is, “her property”, not the government’s, not Donald Trump’s, not yours, mine, nor the Collective, but HERS. It was hers to do with as she pleased even if she wanted to raze the structure and salt and plow the earth. Period!
Donald Trump is a spoiled bully with a bad haircut, a punch me face, and NO proof of ability were he to have started with nothing like Ben Carson. Had Trump not been born with a silver spoon in his mouth, we probably wouldn’t even know who he was other than a classless, crude pitchman on TV for used cars.
He goes on and on reiterating what he’s going to do if elected, but has said NOTHING about how he would go about doing it. I don’t think he will do half the things he says he’ll do and the ones that he will do, I believe he’ll do poorly. All that being said, I agree with what he says, particularly about immigration, Muslims and defense, but I think he’s basically a dove in a hawk suit. Furthermore, if he turns out to be the GOP nominee, I’ll hold my nose and vote for him even though I think that Dr. Carson is smarter, tougher, more accomplished, more honest, more principled, more courageous and in possession of a true and accurate moral compass.

Samuel C. Cogar
Reply to  Leonard Lane
December 19, 2015 5:41 am

@ Nealstar – December 18, 2015 at 8:55 am says:

and Donald Trump who ————- used the government to enforce the law of Eminent Domain to attempt steal land from a poor widow

Don’t be talking silliness. Trump had no power or influence whatsoever to compel or force the elected or appointed government officials in/of the State of New Jersey and/or Atlantic City into doing anything.
It was the “money hungry” elected officials of the State of New Jersey that ignored and violated the COTUS simply because they desperately wanted the horrendous “tax revenues” that they knew would be generated via Trump’s proposed development.
Did you also blame Trump for these ED actions or is there another person that you truly dislike and thus blamed them for this, to wit:
And I am 75 years old and it has always amazed me that people will brag about, praise and vote for their “favorite” politician(s) or Party …… and then they get all p-faced, pouty and irate, … and put the blame on another person or party, ….. whenever “s–t happens”, …. that was a direct result of the “actions” or ”inactions” of their “favorite” politician(s) that they were praising and voted for. And worse yet, they will vote for the same ones again and again ….. and select a different “whippingboy” to vent their anger on..

Samuel C. Cogar
Reply to  Leonard Lane
December 19, 2015 6:08 am

@ Nealstar – December 18, 2015 at 7:06 pm says:

even though I think that Dr. Carson is smarter, tougher, more accomplished, more honest, more principled, more courageous and in possession of a true and accurate moral compass

So, ya really think that you can send the really nice, polite, kind, courteous and softly spoken Dr. Carson into the middle of a big “bar room brawl” of no holds barred …. and he will survive as the unscathed winner?
Who is going to be your “whippingboys” once you realize that fiasco is unfolding?

Reply to  Leonard Lane
December 19, 2015 9:51 am

One doesn’t start from where Dr. Carson started and get to his level of skill and achievement without being tough as hell. My experience in the SE Asian War Games in the mid-late ’60s proved that the super macho tough guy poseurs frequently end up quivering in a corner of a bunker while some weak looking bespectacled clerk is bringing an ungodly shitstorm down on the bad guys regardless of their number or armament. You want to see how tough Dr. Carson is? Let someone start getting on him like Axelrod got on Herman Cain implying that he was unfaithful to his wife.
As far as who’s going to be my whippingboy, it will be my perennial favorite; the stupid, apathetic, lazy, good for no more than food, American voter who was responsible, either through voting or demurring, who got Barack bin Barack Hussein Al-Sissy elected and then after four years of his “leadership”, reelected and who is responsible for our current non-choice. The choice between Trump and Clinton is equivalent to the choice of whether you want to get kicked in your Left nut (Clinton) or Right nut (Trump).

Samuel C. Cogar
Reply to  Leonard Lane
December 20, 2015 3:41 am

One doesn’t start from where Dr. Carson started and get to his level of skill and achievement without being tough as hell.

Gimme a break, Nealstar, … being tough as hell is NOT a prerequisite for getting a college education …. or for choosing a discipline (Medical) that one can earn million$$ for their professional performance.
HA, I was not tough as hell, was born “dirt poor”, earned my college Degree ….. and was highly noted for my expertise, high level of skill and achievements in the design, programming and manufacturing of computers and related products. One proof of said, to wit:

My experience in the SE Asian War Games in the mid-late ’60s proved that the super macho tough guy poseurs frequently end up quivering in a corner of a bunker while …….. yada, yada, yada ….

Me thinks you have a serious lapse of memory about the above, be it intentional or biological. It appears to me that your hatred for Senator Barry Goldwater must have been the same “in the mid-late ’60s” …. as your hatred now is for Donald Trump. But whatever it is that “turns your crank” ….. you are the one that has to live with it. Cheers

December 17, 2015 5:40 am

The UN source of income is limited to contributions from member companies. UN IPCC is a revenue generating effort which is why it’s scientists are celebrated for the narrative and not the quality of their work.
Where do you think Obama wants to be employed after office?
The Climate Fund is a version of The bogus Clinton Foundation on steroids.

Tom Judd
December 17, 2015 5:45 am

‘The Green Climate Fund is pool of money where developed countries, with contributions from public and private sources, help…’

December 17, 2015 5:49 am

The idea of a constitution bound representative republic has been dead for generations. Only the myth lives on. The president may do as he pleases so long as congress does not have the guts to impeach.
The constitution is only “a scrap of paper.”

Tom Judd
Reply to  markstoval
December 17, 2015 7:03 am

A reporter went undercover with a petition to abolish the First Amendment to the Constitution. Where? At Yale University of course. Over 50 students signed it.

Reply to  Tom Judd
December 17, 2015 7:39 am

Prolly every one of the 50 an obamaton.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Tom Judd
December 17, 2015 8:32 am

Over 50 students signed it in less than 1 hour… and most of them praised the petitioner’s efforts.

Reply to  Tom Judd
December 17, 2015 12:38 pm

Out o how many?

Reply to  markstoval
December 17, 2015 12:23 pm

Actually that’s not entirely correct. If the Presidentr spends money that Congress has not appropriated he can be charged with a felony and can go to prison for that. Where the confusion comes in is that Congress writes appropriation bills that gives the president discretion in certain cases to re-program certain funds depending on the circumstances.

Reply to  Marty
December 17, 2015 12:49 pm

“If the President spends money that Congress has not appropriated he can be charged with a felony and can go to prison for that.”
Ya, right. I expect to see a sitting president hauled off to jail any day now. /snark
The point is, that the federal government itself decides what the constitution means and the expansion of federal power has exceeded the power of the King we rebelled against. The USA is a police state with unlimited power at the center. An Empire.
Next you will tell me the US does not do “false flag” operations.

Reply to  Marty
December 18, 2015 5:32 pm

yeah especially if he doesn’t pardon himself

December 17, 2015 6:00 am

Eric, in the past, few US presidents tried to massively abuse the system & were generally ethical. So that’s a problem — when one like Obozo drops all pretense of ethical behavior & acts to seize far more personal power, there’s little procedure/precedent to deal w/it. We Americans should be able to “sack” administrations (vote of no confidence) at any time like other countries can.

Reply to  beng135
December 17, 2015 7:48 am

. . + 10,000

Reply to  beng135
December 17, 2015 8:58 am

In the end, Obama and his cohorts will get the legacy they deserve. We can only hope that people come to their senses before the next inevitable ice age arrives so we can avoid perpetual economic harm from this collective stupidity. Unfortunately, stupidity is an inherited trait, so the descendants of these same idiots will probably blame the next ice age on global warming.

Reply to  co2isnotevil
December 17, 2015 10:29 am

The ‘Legacy’ obama is striving so hard for is the legacy, in the near, or far future, in mind of a socialist / communist / fascist government and population who will adore him and hail him as the first, visionary King of the United States. He is placing the hopes for his legacy on that kind of “change”.
The statement in the above article; “But Republicans were unable to attach a proposed policy provision that would have explicitly blocked Obama from sending federal money to the Green Climate Fund” is one of the many reasons that so many people in the U.S. are so angry with the Republican Senate and House of Reps. In my HO, if the Republicans really were serious about blocking obama from being able to send money to the Greens, they could do it. IMHO, shut the Fu**ing government down if you need to and quit being afraid that your constituents won’t like you anymore for doing it. Grow a pair and I will support anyone in Congress for standing up for what their constituents want. That’s what they were elected to do and It is why so many people are so angry with the republicans and government in general… Not listening to their constituents and taking action on what they were elected to do.
On another note. I keep hearing about ‘The MSM’. Main Stream Media does not exist. Whatever ‘IT’ is, is not mainstream any longer. If there was a mainstream media, that is where I would go to for reasonable, truthful, unbiased news. How many sources of news are in existence these days which have, and strive for the aforementioned traits, which would be called ‘Mainstream’? Most news media today is biased, slanted in reporting, self serving, politically active, etc., etc.. I say that using the title MSM no longer applies these days. Using “Mainstream” to identify sources of information / news, etc. gives what currently exists out there a title that it does not deserve and gives it credit and credibility where none is due.

Reply to  co2isnotevil
December 17, 2015 12:33 pm

Dahlquist, although I’m an American sometimes I watch the European news and I find it way more biased than the American news. It’s like something out of George Orwell’s novel 1984. I hope our European friends realize that most of their mainstream news coverage is actually just socialist propaganda.

Reply to  beng135
December 17, 2015 9:57 am

We had a chance 3 years ago. A majority of the voters decided to stick with the crook.

Reply to  MarkW
December 17, 2015 10:05 am

More precisely, it was the MSM that chose Obama by promoting his lies, ignoring his faults, and emphasizing the faults of his opponent. One of the biggest lies was Benghazi, which had the truth been known THEN, Obama would not have been re-elected. As Clinton said, “What difference does it make, NOW?”.

December 17, 2015 6:01 am

“Does the President have Unconstrained Power to Send Billions to the UN for Climate?”
The answer to this question should be a resounding “NO!!”. But with this guy, all bets are off.

Ph.D. Guy
December 17, 2015 6:01 am

“In 1788, President George Washington refused to be king, and created a Presidential office which was limited by the US Constitution.”
George Washington set a precedent that he would serve no more than two terms as President not wanting to act as King or Dictator. That precedent held until the Communist Dictator Franklin Roosevelt decided to abandon that precedent even though every President before him followed Washington’s precedent. It was only after the Dictator Roosevelt was out of office after four terms as President that the Republicans passed legislation limiting the President to two terms in office.
Reply to  Ph.D. Guy
December 17, 2015 6:38 am

(Note: “Buster Brown” is the latest fake screen name for ‘David Socrates’, ‘Brian G Valentine’, ‘Joel D. Jackson’, ‘beckleybud’, ‘Edward Richardson’, ‘H Grouse’, and about twenty others. The same person is also an identity thief who has stolen legitimate commenters’ names. Therefore, all the time and effort he spent on writing 300 comments under the fake “BusterBrown” name, many of them quite long, are wasted because I am deleting them wholesale. ~mod.)

Reply to  Ph.D. Guy
December 17, 2015 6:50 am

Grant run for a third term, but was defeated.

Boulder Skeptic
Reply to  Ph.D. Guy
December 19, 2015 12:10 pm

Well it’s clear your Ph.D. is not in either political science or history.

December 17, 2015 6:06 am

Come on, folks. The President is not going to divert money from other appropriated projects
into a climate fund. He would have to do so publicly – as any receipts to the fund from the US
would be loudly trumpeted by the IPCC. The agency/organization which was supposed to get
the funding would scream bloody murder once the diversion became known. Likewise, he has
no authority and no mechanism to spend new money on the fund – it would have to be
budgeted, authorized, and appropriated. None of that will happen.
This president will, as he has done for seven years, try to bully Congress into appropriating
funds, and failing that, try to make a campaign issue out of the GOP-led Congress’ refusal
to play along. Just like increasing the minimum wage, he can only act in places where he has
clear authority (like wages for Federal workers). When it comes to paying ‘climate-change
blackmail’, he has no spending authority.

Tom Judd
Reply to  BillW
December 17, 2015 6:59 am

Sorry sir, unfortunately that’s not true. Recall ‘Fast and Furious’ the gun running program sponsored by some higher ups (other agents didn’t know about it) in the BATF. The money to fund that action came from?…ready?…The Stimulus Program which was supposed to jump start the economy from its recession doldrums back in 2009. The stimulus paid for a veritable Christmas (oops, wrong holiday term) shopping list of goodies for the Obama administration: all paid for under the radar.

Michael C. Roberts
Reply to  BillW
December 17, 2015 9:32 am

The website is treasure trove of information regarding the president’s Way Forward into the Brave New World. (see Page 20)
Awaiting the update of the CAP on this site regarding the Climate Fund $$$$$…

Reply to  BillW
December 17, 2015 10:27 am

I’m quite sure USAID would be more than happy to act as cover.

December 17, 2015 6:25 am

then the US Congress and Senate are as irrelevant to the process of the governance of the United States, as the toothless Roman Senate was under the Caesars.
Ball-less is more like it…. along with corrupt, They are not trying to govern. They are trying to milk all they can out of the citizens before the cupboard is bare~

Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 17, 2015 2:57 pm

And Caligula made his horse a Senator. See how advanced we are today? We don’t even need the whole horse.

Alan Robertson
December 17, 2015 6:28 am

Congress just ceded the President the authority to spend whatever he wants, to secure his climate legacy. Here’s some additional insight on the topic of this thread:
At this point, all but the most mundane spending by the Federal government is deficit spending, which just pushes us closer to the day when all revenues pay only the interest on the debt. The Feds currently maintain business as usual by operating the twin illusions of printing more money to mask the spending and then claiming there is no inflation.
We do not have a government of, by and for the people, we have a government for the government.

John Robertson
Reply to  Alan Robertson
December 17, 2015 8:10 am


December 17, 2015 6:45 am

Why not send the money and focus on the inevitable waste, fraud, and abuse. Total federal spending will be over 3 trillion so 500M is a small amount. Apparently we spent that much to train a handful of Syrian rebels.
We know what happened in the carbon offsets markets even if it recives little press attention for now. We have documented proof of the grand promises made and the sordid mess it actually became.
Unfortunately the concept of letting it fail is often required to reach clarity.

December 17, 2015 7:22 am

Worst. President. Ever.

Reply to  RockyRoad
December 17, 2015 7:47 am

“Worst. President. Ever.”
I disagree – he is not a president, he is an autocrat.

Reply to  RockyRoad
December 17, 2015 1:39 pm


Tom in Denver
December 17, 2015 7:30 am

Consider this money as Obama’s down payment on becoming Head of the UN. King of the US has never been good enough for his ego. Obama aspires to be king of the world.
The way to do that is to first knock down the US a few pegs as the lone superpower, Then the need for a central global government has to be generated under a global crisis. What better crisis than Global warming.
As far as I see it, This plan is running right on schedule. Obama is far from alone in this plan. Just read about Agenda 21.

Reply to  Tom in Denver
December 17, 2015 7:51 am

Obama’s own personal ” Agenda 21 ” !!

John Peter
December 17, 2015 7:50 am

Anyway it looks as if the Administration does not have it all their way
“The battle between National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) officials and congressional investigators may be winding down as bureaucrats have finally handed over emails to lawmakers after months of refusing to do so.”
Time will show if all e-mails have been released and if they show influence from Obama & Co. on the Carl 2015 “pause breaker” study.
“Outcast” Tony Heller has another “rant” at NOAA here
having a go at Rick Spinrad for suggesting that “Warming is happening more than twice as fast in the Arctic than anywhere else in the world. We know this is due to climate change, and its impacts are creating major challenges for Arctic communities,” said NOAA chief scientist Rick Spinrad at the annual American Geophysical Union fall meeting in San Francisco.” A. Watts may have something to say about this meeting.
Looks as if Tony Heller actually picked this up from The Telegraph here in UK
I wish somebody who is not an AGW promoter would do a rational and objective analysis of Tony Heller’s barrage of attacks on NOAA and GISS. Is there something in his comparisons and accusations of “fraud”?
Senator Cruz is now using his charts so is TH “off the beam” or is there something in what he is highlighting?

Dave in Canmore
Reply to  John Peter
December 17, 2015 8:34 am

“I wish somebody who is not an AGW promoter would do a rational and objective analysis of Tony Heller’s barrage of attacks on NOAA and GISS. ”
Wouldn’t it make sense for you to do this? I know, you claim you don’t have time but seems it would be better than having to guess someone’s objectivity.

John Peter
Reply to  Dave in Canmore
December 17, 2015 9:21 am

I don’t have the necessary expertise. Prefer to recognize my own limitations. Wish others would do the same.

Bruce Cobb
December 17, 2015 8:06 am

The office of President has too much power of the pen in the form of the veto, and the extremely difficult 2/3 majority requirement of both houses to override the veto. It is that power that gives Obama, who is sometimes described as a “wannabe king” or some such, the ability to essentially thumb his nose at Congress. In addition, we have an out-of-control, unelected agency in the EPA, which has been granted extra-constitutional powers, which this particular president is using to his full advantage, once again completely bypassing Congress.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
December 17, 2015 10:01 am

The problem is not the veto, it’s the Democrats in the Senate who will do whatever Obama tells them to do.

Reply to  MarkW
December 17, 2015 10:42 am

The problem is the REPUBLICANS in the Senate who will do whatever Obama tells them to do.

December 17, 2015 8:20 am

Many decades, indeed centuries ago the elected members of the British Parliament removed almost all of the Monarch’s powers and took them on itself.
Maybe it is time for your elected members of Congress to look at how they might do that regarding the powers of the President of the USA.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Oldseadog
December 17, 2015 9:45 am

They won’t because they are all in it together. Get elected, don’t rock the boat, make millions, retire with lifetime income. It’s easy street all the way down.

Joe Crawford
Reply to  Oldseadog
December 17, 2015 2:02 pm

From what I have seen, Congress is right up there with the pres, both being too self serving and incompetent to effectively govern this republic. Years ago there was talk of moving the Capitol to somewhere near the middle of the county (e.g., St.Louis). That suggestion is sounding better all the time, but only if we can leave the current population within the D.C. beltway, executives, legislators, bureaucrats and lobbyists, in place and start fresh.

December 17, 2015 8:20 am

Yes, this administration has pledged to throw away money on ill-advised climate issues. Three billion, or about what the actual Worst President Ever spent every five days in his insane destabilization of Iraq. Of course, the costs of that fiasco are still rolling in.
I’ll take a climate fool over a total fool.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Doug
December 17, 2015 8:37 am

Apples and rutabagas comparison there, Doug. Anything to score political points though, right?

Reply to  Doug
December 17, 2015 8:42 am

One hopes, foolishly perhaps, that we might find the courage to not tolerate fools as leaders.

Reply to  Doug
December 17, 2015 10:03 am

I love the way the idiots actually believe that Iraq was a paradise and would have remained so for ever, if only Bush hadn’t upset the apple cart.
Iraq was stable, until St. Obama decided to pull the rug out from under the regime so that he could keep his promise of bringing the troops home.

Reply to  MarkW
December 17, 2015 10:44 am

One thing you can guarantee – all of the activists who continue to moan so loudly about Iraq will never say a word about what we did in Libya – which was more destabilizing to the region in every possible way.
I saw someone refer to Libya currently as “”Mad Maxistan”. Good description.

Reply to  MarkW
December 17, 2015 12:52 pm

His impact was two fold.
In addition to pulling our troops, Obama subsequently washed his hands of Iraq and ignored it, effectively allowing the Shiite majority to marginalize everyone else.
Bush’s administration screwed up by not keeping Paul Bremer on a short lease. His decision to disband the army was perhaps the single biggest factor leading to the disintegration and splintering of Iraqi civil society. It took years of blood and dollars to win back control. Bush bashers can accurately bash him for allowing it to happen in the first lace, but they never want to credit him for recovering from the mistake and completely give Obama a pass for letting it all fall back apart. To me his is the greater sin because he did it out of a lac of care and attention.

Gerald Machnee
December 17, 2015 8:45 am

Transferring money is one problem. The bigger problem is who will get it and what will they do with it? Will there be an audit? These are questions the media should be asking.

Reply to  Gerald Machnee
December 18, 2015 12:13 pm

“The bigger problem is who will get”
They used to call bribing third world governments “foreign aid”. But even the limp wristed left have caught on to that, so they are remaining the scam to “global warming reparations”. As that has no pretense of helping the poor.

December 17, 2015 9:10 am

The House approved the climate “deal”, so no need to argue the point anymore.

December 17, 2015 9:21 am

An election is a contract. That contract runs out in a year and the Yanks will have another chance. We Canadians just elected Sonny Trudeau. We are stuck with our contract for many years, perhaps decades. Sonny promised the UN black hole 3 billion dollars from an economy 1/10th the size of the US.

December 17, 2015 9:21 am

You couldn’t have a clearer aid fund effect than this – The hard working people in the US gift their taxes to the rich people in the developing world. China and India need it? and the paragons of democracy like Mugabe, Zuma etc?

David S
December 17, 2015 9:23 am

I think the greenies in the US will be happy to know that American dollars will be transferred from helping their own needy to the poor and needy in developing countries like China and India so that governments in those countries by not needing to spend its own money on the poor and needy can maintain the worlds highest growth rates, establish hundreds of coal fired power plants and buy up all the businesses and land in countries like Australia. I suspect this will all be done whilst they sell solar panels and other parts for the renewable energy infrastructures and increasing emissions as fast as ever such that the total cutbacks by the rest of the world are meaningless ( even if they weren’t scientifically meaningless anyway. )
Obama should get a lot of thanks from both sides of politics if he is able to leave a vibrant India and China at the expense of American growth and welfare.

Reply to  David S
December 18, 2015 12:16 pm

Otto Passman said it best foreign aid is:” “taking money from poor people in rich countries and giving it to rich people in poor countries.” ”
All this global warming B.S. does is take away the pretense of helping the poor.

Reply to  hugh
December 18, 2015 12:22 pm

What’s worst is that China is already taking our money as we satisfy our need for solar panels. Trump is right, everyone is out manuvering us at every turn. In this case, China is trying to double dip by taking advantage of the stupidity of our government. policy driven by CO2 madness promoting solar power and again by claiming they also deserve climate reparations.

George Steiner
December 17, 2015 9:32 am

Why is everybody so hard on O’bama. Americans should accept the fact that they as the people are responsible for the decline now facing the US. They have de-educated themselves, they are directed by childish toys like TV, Facebook, Twiter. They no longer understand how the world works. More importantly the don’t care.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  George Steiner
December 17, 2015 10:35 am

One way to solve that problem is to limit voting eligibility to those who own real property. That would eliminate most of the “takers of other people’s money”.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
December 17, 2015 11:06 am

I agree, no one should be able to vote themselves a raise for doing nothing !!!

Reply to  Tom in Florida
December 17, 2015 12:48 pm

I agree that voting should be limited to those who actually pay the taxes. But I would also include those who put their lives at risk by serving in the military.
And the voting age should be raised to somewhere around 25 years or so. Voting is way too important to entrust to a child of 18 years who has never held a real job, never paid taxes, and been supported his/her whole life by mommy and daddy. A big part of our problem is that we have large numbers of children voting on the basis of who is coolest and who looks the best on television.

Reply to  George Steiner
December 17, 2015 11:22 am

Please don’t lump us all together. For example, I never watch TV, I’ve never been a member of social media sites including Facebook (I don’t even text), and I never voted for this President. I’m much better educated than 97% of my (Middle School Principal) wife’s teaching staff. And I think it’s pretty clear the direction the world is heading.
I care very much, but I’m resigned to the fact that the population has been so deliberately dumbed down by gov’t .edu factories, that it believes CO2 is ‘carbon’, and it believes that ‘alternative energy’ is cheaper, more efficient, and cleaner than traditional fossil fuel energy. So naturally the same dumbed down public will believe there is a “climate change” crisis happening — even though the past century has been one of the most benign global ‘climates’ in all of human history.
It’s become so bad that some presumably well educated fools posting here will argue that ‘dangerous AGW’ is occurring, even though they cannot quantify it, or produce any observations that convincingly support their belief; the best any of them can do is to claim that the natural, cyclical changes in Arctic ice are caused by human activity.
Their credulous belief alone is enough for them; it is much easier to just parrot what’s on the nightly news, than to think for themselves. I have yet to see an example of rigorous thinking from anyone in the ‘man-made global warming’ crowd, and that goes for some highly educated people. I suspect they know that what is being observed is simply natural variability. But they are opportunists who see self-serving possibilities in parroting the ‘climate change’ scare.
I have little hope that things can be turned around at this point. Even if a new President is elected who is a staunch supporter of the original Constitution and Bill of Rights, the Left’s dictum of “two steps forward, one step back” applies. They will just wait for the next Obama, and sooner or later that will be the end of American exceptionalism, and of the rule of law in all but name (that’s practically the case now), and finally we will be back to Plato’s idea of an ideal republic: a strong military, beholden to a tiny aristocrisy, and all supported by a huge proletariat whose job is to do as they’re told, pay immense taxes, and not complain about any of it.
Right now 50% of the population is on the dole, and that number is rising fast (in the 1980’s it was only 12%). And illegal immigration is ramping up geometrically, placing much greater burdens on the declining taxpayer base.
This is a deliberate, planned policy. Sooner or later, things will get so bad that the majority will be screaming for someone to “do something!” And the complicit, conniving government will step in and “do something”, claiming it is “for the good of the country”. People will get what they’re screaming for: they will get it good and hard.
But it will only be for the good for the very small aristocrisy. Feudalism was well known in Plato’s time, and it has had a much longer run than the Enlightenment’s experiments in democracy and personal freedom.
Humans are hard wired to accept — and to want — a headman to rule them. No family, village, town, city, state, or nation is without the equivalent. I often look at the history of Hawaii, where each island in turn was eventually conquered by one tribe, which became the aristocrisy. Each island had its king. Then one island after another was conquered, until the whole island chain was ruled by one tribe and its king.
That pattern has happened throughout history. Does anyone seriously think it isn’t happening now? It’s just a matter of time before one tiny aristocrisy comprising a fraction of 1% of the world’s population becomes ensconced. And none of us here will be part of the aristocrisy.
That subset is already established. Does anyone really wonder why the country’s billionaires are all in agreement with the ‘carbon’ scare? What, none of them can think for themselves? None of them has a different opinion? Or, maybe they’ve been ‘talked to’. Which is more likely?
I’d like to be more optimistic. But that’s what I get for reading thousands of hours of history…

Tom in Florida
Reply to  dbstealey
December 17, 2015 12:20 pm

Thus the desire for those in power to confiscate guns and scrape the 2nd Amendment. A fully armed populace at least gives us a chance.

Reply to  George Steiner
December 17, 2015 1:20 pm

George says:

Americans should accept the fact that they as the people are responsible for the decline now facing the US.

Why do you think US are facing a decline?
The US economy seems to have recovered quite well from the financial crisis. Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 211,000 last month, and the average monthly gain has been 237,000 over the prior 12 months. That is sign of very healthy growth which we in Europe can only marvel at.
Reply to  Jan Kjetil Andersen
December 17, 2015 1:26 pm

(Note: “Buster Brown” is the latest fake screen name for ‘David Socrates’, ‘Brian G Valentine’, ‘Joel D. Jackson’, ‘beckleybud’, ‘Edward Richardson’, ‘H Grouse’, and about twenty others. The same person is also an identity thief who has stolen legitimate commenters’ names. Therefore, all the time and effort he spent on writing 300 comments under the fake “BusterBrown” name, many of them quite long, are wasted because I am deleting them wholesale. ~mod.)

Jan Christoffersen
Reply to  Jan Kjetil Andersen
December 17, 2015 4:11 pm

Many of those jobs are part time and in +55 age group. Watch the video below featuring Peter Schiff, one the few people who predicted the 2008 housing crash in the US and the subsequent global financial crisis.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  Jan Kjetil Andersen
December 17, 2015 11:04 pm

Jan. Don’t believe the lies that Obama and the democrats tell you. There are almost 100 million people in the US not working. Many of those are happy on the dole but many more would like to work. The real unemployment is nearer to 25% than 5 %.
This nearly 100 million Americans not working is regularly reported and well known. The 5% figure is government perfidy and propaganda.

December 17, 2015 10:39 am

Judging from the Omnibus Bill, sure, he can do anything he wants. Congress gives him everything he asks for. He’ll definately have the money.

Mike the Morlock
December 17, 2015 10:46 am

Can the President redirect funds to the International Climate fund? Yes, But he will have a public relations disaster doing it. A few past examples, like the Fast & Furious debacle, where the money was stolen from was not widely circulated. Thus limiting public outrage. Then of course there was Iran Contra affair, that of course did not go over very well.
Last President Nixon had a bad habit of not spending the monies Congress appropriated, if he did not like the program the fund were intended for. Congress fixed that by passing a law requiring the executive office to spend the funds.
How this legally works out for diverting funds outside the jurisdiction they were appropriated for will depend largely on how much of a stink is made by the Department raided for the funds.
Also the issue of the Sequestrate process being part of the budget as likely to throw some type of monkey wench into the works.
Last as President Oboma is a lame duck with slightly over year left to his administration he my just “do what he wants” and ignore the consequences figuring that he will be long gone by the time the courts get involved. Of course that will not save the administrators who aided and abetted such plundering

Samuel C. Cogar
December 17, 2015 10:51 am

There is nothing new happening now days that was not per se predicted 2,000 years ago, to wit:

Now I cannot but think, that the greatness of a kingdom, and its changes into prosperity, often becomes the occasion of mischief and of transgression to men, for so it usually happens, that the manners of subjects are corrupted at the same time with those of their governors, which subjects then lay aside their own sober way of living, as a reproof of their governor’s intemperate courses, and follow their wickedness, as if it were virtue, for it is not possible to show that men approve of the actions of their kings, unless they do the same actions with them.” (Flavius Josephus – 37- 100 AD)

The US’s socio-economic “pendulum” has done swung too far to the “left” to ever swing back again without the populace having to suffer great hardships, deaths, destructions, rioting, burnings, lootings and other acts of anarchy simply because the “troughfeeders” that have been feeding at the government “trough” for so long that they will not be denied the “freebies” that they have become accustomed to receiving without having to produce anything of value in return. They will not be denied the “freebies” that they truly believe they deserve and thus will attempt to take what they need or want, by any means possible, from anyone that has what they want.

Reply to  Samuel C. Cogar
December 17, 2015 11:11 am

Obama WANTS nation wide civil unrest so he can declare Martial Law and cancel all future elections, thus, seating himself as Emperor !! Just look at how he has behaved recently and his pathetic comments to ” His People ” …

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Marcus
December 19, 2015 6:31 am

If that were to happen I believe you would see a marked increase in sniper rifle sales.
I think he will take a more “legal” way of cancelling the election. Everyone knows Hillary should be in jail for her mishandleing of classified information. The Obama administration will wait until Oct 2016 to finally “find enough evidence” to put her away. But by then she will be the Democrats candidate. The argument will then be that it is “unfair” to the American people to have only one candidate to vote for and thus the election must be cancelled. So Obama will petition the Supreme Court to allow him to continue as President “as long as it takes” to fix the problem.

Ryan S.
December 17, 2015 11:09 am

I’m surprised the brokest nation in the history of the world has money to throw at UN boondoggles.

Reply to  Ryan S.
December 17, 2015 11:12 am

It will be borrowed from China to give BACK to China !!! DOH !

Bill Powers
December 17, 2015 11:26 am

BOb burns through Billions like I burn through Benjamin’s. Only difference is I burn MY money and BOb burns OUR money. Thats right some of your Benjamin’s you send to BOb for him to spend without asking you if it is okay for him to Burn you money.

December 17, 2015 11:46 am

Two points: The most effective tools for improving the economy of undeveloped countries are coal and oil. Monetary aid from the developing world has done more harm than good in the developing world.

December 17, 2015 11:52 am

Won’t happen. Both sides of Congress would not support it and even this President would not be capable of pulling off that sort of heist on his own. The only reason the Dems support AGW is it allows them more tax $$ to spend on pet projects and government and the thought of giving that money to another country isn’t part of their plan.

December 17, 2015 12:35 pm

The author of this piece has demonstrated greater respect for the US Constitution
than the US President.
The Constitution empowers congress with oversight on the flow of public funds.
The public gave Republicans both houses of congress – to exercise that oversight.
If they fail to do so, granting this president a free pass on his pet fantasy,
Republicans will be punished in the next election.

December 17, 2015 12:45 pm

We no longer have to pay anything to fight climate change because we are a poor nation with a large national debt, trade deficit, and unfunded liabilities. The Paris Climate Agreement ends all forms of climate change, extreme weather, and sea level rise for now and for all time. Forget the physics. It is a done deal and we should now move on to solving other problems.

December 17, 2015 12:58 pm

never trust a politician:
16 Dec: The Hill: Devin Henry: Funds for Obama climate deal survive in spending bill
“Based on what we have reviewed so far, there are no restrictions on our ability to make good on the president’s pledge to contribute to the Green Climate Fund,” White House press secretary Josh Earnest said on Wednesday…
“This is a rebuke to those congressional extremists who tried to play politics with desperately needed money to help the world’s poor take climate action,” Friends of the Earth senior analyst Karen Orenstein said in a statement Wednesday. “Morality and reason, rather than science-denying isolationism, prevailed in this case.”

Mike the Morlock
Reply to  pat
December 17, 2015 2:01 pm

It’s a public relations gambit. There is no money allocated at the present time. What the Majority in congress was trying to do was something similar to the “Bolin Amendment” that caused the Iran Contra affair.
It would have been nice to have a stated ban of funds but it is not necessary. Because of the Sequester agreement in regards to the budget both sides hands are tied in so far as new spending goes.
As a matter of fact only the House of Representatives can introduce a “Spending Bill”.
The president through the appropriate agency can request funding. That request goes to the relevant committee, then if it is voted “for” by the committee it is Written into a “Bill”. Then the real fun starts.
Any funding not already in the pipe line prior to Cop21 is DOA.
All President Obama can do is scrounge around under the Congressional chairs and sofa cushions for lost change. (like Ollie North did)

December 17, 2015 1:00 pm

Stop whining and do something.
Write your elected representatives!
Demand, in no uncertain terms, that they block federal spending, until it insures that no money will leave the US government without congressional approval. Make it clear that, if they relinquish this constitutional protection, they and in particular the Repubicans (to whom the public gave both houses of congress) won’t be around after November.

Gunga Din
December 17, 2015 1:54 pm

Does the President have Unconstrained Power to Send Billions to the UN for Climate?

The bureaucratic power? Maybe.
The Constitutional authority? NO!

December 17, 2015 4:09 pm

All I know is 399 days (according to by Obozo countdown clock) seems like an eternity…

more soylent green!
December 17, 2015 4:28 pm

The Obama (like any other American president) has the power if the people allow him to get away with it.
This weakness in our system has become glaringly obvious during the Obama presidency. For our system to work depends upon everyone not only working in good faith but also their voluntary willingness to follow the Constitution, follow the law and obey the House and Senate rules.

December 17, 2015 5:13 pm

What do you do, when you’re a community organizer in the most corrupt city, in the most corrupt state, of the United States.
You ride the wave into a position that is so far over your head, you bow to foreign leaders.
An alpha you are not, those slavering beasts know it now.
Get ready for it.

December 17, 2015 6:38 pm

Could someone please tell me what are the 196 countries that signed on are or are they mere phantoms like the “66 country coalition” Barack bin Barack Hussein Al-Sissy claims have joined him in his plan to eliminate ISIS and other perpetrators of “workplace violence” and “random occurrences” of “man made disasters”?
Thanks in advance

December 18, 2015 12:15 am

I fear the parents of the people who will these absurd bills are not yet born. It is a beautiful thing in politics when there is no dissenting vote on spending. Nobody alive today will be affected. The ultimate fun money.

Bruce Cobb
December 18, 2015 6:54 am

Sadly, here in New Hampshire, our own Republican Senator Kelly Ayotte (who is up for re-election) has drunk the Climate Koolade, and come out in favor of the “Clean Power Plan” which calls for a 32% reduction in GHGs by 2030. Under this 1,560-page monstrosity of a plan, states have the “choice” of either coming up with their own plan, or having one drawn up for them.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
December 19, 2015 12:05 pm

Just catching up on this thread
I also read this earlier today. This website normally does a good “accounting” the money flow concerning congress folks. I didn’t see anything for Senator Ayotte, but I think the most logical place to predict how your rep will act would first be an accounting of how they make their money.
Dangerous times for Profiles in Courage if they are in the way of the money flow.

December 18, 2015 6:55 am

Climate change has created heaven on earth for burocrats (UN, EU)
They can shift almost unlimited amounts of money without accountability because the objective, saving the planet, is beyond questioning.
Also an army of opportunistic entrepreneurs (parasites?) is dancing around the subsidies.
Climate change policy is a serious threat to humanity. An unprecedented manifestation of backwardness.

Russell Johnson
December 18, 2015 7:04 am

Deep down Obama is an anti-capitalist; he believes all of America’s success is the result of exploiting other countries and their people. Self loathing is a driving force in his decisions as it is with many liberal politicians in the US. He deals out punishment on companies and individuals that are successful because it’s not “fair” to the unsuccessful. In the same way he wants to punish America for causing “climate change”.
He’ll try to pay the highest monetary penalty possible to the corrupt UN. He has 13 months left to punish us so watch out!!!

Reply to  Russell Johnson
December 18, 2015 7:22 am

Atlas Shrugged comes true!

Reply to  David
December 18, 2015 8:14 am

I’ve been to Ouray, CO and there isn’t enough room to accommodate all the potential strikers.

December 18, 2015 8:55 am

Environmentalists have taken over the moral compass from the church. God was replaced by “Mother Earth” with wilderness as an ideal. This was a genius marketing move because to live now automatically means to sin!
However, nobody will call the bricks in the wall “mother” . The earth is no mother, but a resource of materials.
Prosperity is victory over nature: housing, vaccination, clean water, medical practices, transportation systems.
The second error is “sustainability” as a primary goal. In several places in the world, people lived sustainable for centuries: life expectancy 35 years , deep poverty and stagnation (Highlands New Guinea, Amazon jungle)
Our life is the result of unsustainable living by our ancestors (thanks!) this brought science, prosperity and freedom on an unprecedented scale. (only abundant energy may end slavery. The energy of one person is insufficient for a nice life)
Innovation helped us out.
Not sustainability but maintaining prosperity should be our goal. Sustainability hopefully is a result.
For society, sustainability is timely innovation. We need research

December 19, 2015 5:12 am

America hopefully only has another year of putting up with all the incompetent ‘Obamanorsens’!!!!

December 19, 2015 7:54 pm

I am not American, but actually he does not stand again, and if Donald Trump gets the GOP nomination (GHUS!) you can be sure the Democrats get in again.

Janice Moore
Reply to  bushbunny
December 19, 2015 7:58 pm

Bush Bunny!
Am I glad to see you! I have no idea what this thread is about — just clicked on your name in the recent posts list on right margin to come here to say: I hope all is well with you and yours. There was a terrible wildfire situation in what I thought might be your neck of the woods down there awhile back. Then, I didn’t see you ……….. until this evening (er this afternoon …. tomorrow, smile).
Take care — you are a WUWT gem!
Your American Ally for Science Truth,

Reply to  Janice Moore
December 19, 2015 8:12 pm

Hi Janice I haven’t posted much, mainly because I agree with others on various posts, and frustrated with the present PM who is reversing the coalitions action which was done by the PM that was ruthlessly booted out. But you have a good holiday season, and pray that the next President of the US of A is a realist and not too keen to promote giving away your hard earned money to corrupt third world countries.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 19, 2015 8:20 pm

Thank you, Bush Bunny. Whew — glad to hear that (I assume) you were not harmed by that incident. I HIGHLY ADMIRE your self-control (to not write superfluous comments)! Oh, boy, I need to imitate your discretion. Yes, indeed, re: U.S. presidential election (and so sorry about the PM disaster in Australia!), I will vote for the Republican for sure — it is ANYBODY but the Democrat (given their economy-wrecking policies).
Take care.

December 20, 2015 5:15 pm

Headline: “Does the President have Unconstrained Power to Send Billions to the UN for Climate?”
Sure he has that power, when the dumba*ses in Congress fund EVERY DAMN THING HE WANTS!
MEET THE NEW GOPee, SAME AS THE OLD GOPee only with Paul Boehner Jr in charge of the train wreck that is coming!!

Reply to  Lone Gunman
December 20, 2015 7:37 pm

Get mad bro.
You got sold out.

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