This is from his Dec. 9, 2015 address to Paris COP-21 conference. Kerry also emphasizes that even if all industrial country emissions were zeroed out, it would mean nothing for the climate.
What further proof does one need that #COP21 has no basis is science, and is nothing more than pandering to a bunch of sqalling eco-organizations and poorer countries looking for a handout. What a complete circus.
Here are Kerry’s exact words:
… The fact is that even if every American citizen biked to work, carpooled to school, used only solar panels to power their homes, if we each planted a dozen trees, if we somehow eliminated all of our domestic greenhouse gas emissions, guess what – that still wouldn’t be enough to offset the carbon pollution coming from the rest of the world.
If all the industrial nations went down to zero emissions –- remember what I just said, all the industrial emissions went down to zero emissions -– it wouldn’t be enough, not when more than 65% of the world’s carbon pollution comes from the developing world.
h/t to Steve Milloy of junkscience.com
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What Kerry is saying is that the only way to solve this (perceived) problem, is to create a world government to dictate what emissions each country can have. Of course that would also presume that all rich countries would have to redistribute their wealth to the poor countries. This has been the underlying goal of this trumped up crisis all along. It was spelled out by the UN in Agenda 21.
COP21—–> Agenda 21 you think that number is a coincidence?
The ultimate goal is a global vegan commune run by some subset of the tinpot despots represented in the UN General Assembly.
What could possibly go wrong?
I keep returning to the concept that the eco-loons want to turn the US (and likely the rest of the developed world) into a larger version of Haiti. I hear they sometimes resort to eating dirt, food can be so scarce. That’s even more austere than veganism.
Dang, people! Aren’t the populations poor who live in those tinpot dictatorships, BECAUSE the people running those countries want it that way?!?! So how is it going to change anything for the poor, to simply shovel boatloads of money into the hands of the dictators? Isn’t it their history that they use the funds for their own pleasure, rather than building something that will raise the level of prosperity of their populace?
I hereby pledge $2.5 trillion to India and another $2.5 trillion to other claimants as their demands are received and processed. You may pick up your checks at the DNC/Clinton Foundation at your convenience.
As I’ve said before, the quickest way to ID a scientific moron is their use of and belief in the correctness of the term “carbon pollution”.
The use of that term indicates a clear ignorance of the scale of man’s CO2 relative to Global carbon cycle. And in SecState Kerry’s case it is willful portrayal of ignorance that reaches the level of fraud. The entire US xelegation of COP21 negotiator’s should be prosecuted for Conspiracy to Commit Fraud under the US Code of RICO statutes.
Not surprised. This whole scandel is to keep the developing nations from not developing by not allowing the use of cheap fossil fuels.
John Kerry: Wrong when it matters.
How can some one so wrong for so long still be so conceited. An amazing automaton.
Keats in “Pot of Basil”
Laurent Fabius (Fafa) needs to be remembered for something not related to giving HIV-contaminated blood to children (as ministry of health).
Will someone think of the chil … I mean of Fafa?
This piece misrepresents what was said, even while quoting it exactly.
Kerry said
This is not a surprise, this is not new, this is not unexpected — this has been known for at least a decade.
It is the emissions of the developing world — mostly China, India, Pakistan, SE Asia — that represent the real threat of ramping-up out of control — if they want to really reduce emissions, it is the developing world that must be reigned in.
It is rather refreshing to see a major US politician state it so simply.
The reason they are all in Paris is to convince the Developing World to find a way to develop without that ramp up in CO2 emissions.
so it’s a total waste of time and money….
Reply to Latitude ==> This is the 21st try….maybe they will do something useful at COP22?
Note: These COPs are a tremendous boost (usually) for the local economy — might not be true in Paris due to the cost of extra security in the aftermath of the recent terrorist attacks. Who wouldn’t like to spend two weeks in Paris? especially on your employers tab?
KIp: I imagine the Paris call girls have had a bonaza, just like the Brazilian call girls durning the world cup.
But there is no way. It cannot be done with either wind or solar since these are not despatchable energy sources.
The only viable option would be to go nuclear. This is extremely expensive, and who is going to supply the technology?
richard:
If I am not mistaken India is actively pursuing nuclear power – fast-neutron breeders and thorium reactors.
Their target is 2050.
I am not of big fan of government sponsored research, but if the billion dollars a day currently being pissed away on renewables was diverted to a “Manhattan Project’ to develop commercial fusion reactor technology at least we would have some possibility of actual solving the world energy problem once and for all.
French take on the effectiveness of “wind”
https://youtu.be/WbeKmib8VbI
Say! Can you power this Bessemer furnace on wind? Industry for me, but not for thee. Just leave the modern comforts and industrializing to the first world. Oh, by the way, the models we told you about don’t really work at all and we don’t really have any data so we had to adjust everything upward to make a record average temperature by .01 degree, whatever that really means, but hey, NASA! Just quietly stay poor and trust us. We’re the first world smart people. Oh and the antarctic ice growth is from warming too, in case you were wondering. We have a paper by a scientist that says that, so it’s true. Don’t you read the newspaper?
It is truly astonishing to watch this farce.
Neverending climate theatrics. It just goes on and on and YOU get to pay for it.
Never mind a Bessemer furnace, how about Arnold in the Terminator series? Can he be powered by wind? there was a hilarious cartoon with Arnold as the terminator, power by a mobile windmill powered by Al Gore blowing.
Before CO2 emissions can be eliminated, they must be reduced.
Before CO2 emissions can be reduced, they must be stabilized.
Before CO2 emissions can be stabilized, their growth must be halted.
The growth in CO2 emissions is occurring in the developing world;
so their growth must be halted in the developing world..
If any additional CO2 is dangerous, then ALL additional CO2 is dangerous, not just additional CO2 emitted by developed nations. Even politicians should be capable of grasping that simple reality.
Which says nothing about why all the island nation heads of state are at COP21 with their hands out, demanding reparations for something that hasn’t happened and likely won’t (accelerated SLR due to anthroCO2).
COP21 and the UNFCCC is different things to different actors in this Kabuki dance. For those island nations, it’s about hand-outs and then to be left alone. For the BRICs, its about the West committing economic competive suicide. For Obama, Kerry, and their band of Merry Morons, it’s about getting a wdge in for public suppport for carbon taxes and carbon trading schemes.
US Congressional Budget Office forecasts the US federal budget deficits starting to rise inexorably after 2017 due to Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security growth. The Democrats are adamant that there will be no significant reforms (cuts) to those programs. For that to be so, they desparately need to find new revenues. Since energy underlies GDP and GDP growth, a carbon tax, such as what California now has, is their holy grail. CO2 emissions and the Climate Scam are thus simply tools. Since with all things Progressive, the means employed (honest or not) are justified by their desired ends.
“Why are we there”? To cement Obama’s “climate legacy”.
Pay attention.
Obama’s “legacy” is firm: He’s “The Black Guy.” Place in history assured! Now come home already and do something intelligent about the REAL problems trying to break down our door!
Try holding the next big 2-week event in Detroit so they can see the full force of the climate change effects on the community.
Resource: +1!
we are looking at this all wrong. India and China should be paying us to sort out their mess.
Well everyone should be paying Australia, since it is a net carbon sink.
Zemlik,
I believe that humans breath in oxygen and exhale Co2, China-India, how many billion? plus a methane dump 2-3 times a day ( food for the masses not so good ) etc, etc,.
what do you mean why are here?
government or someone else paying first/business (or economy for putzes) airfare, good hotel, free food, spouse goes shopping, etc
so what if there is one or two meaningless meetings + photo op
We’ve known this at least since the time of Kyoto almost 20 years ago.
localherog2 has to be a troll. the comment about all those people not being killed by terrorist is not true! Trolls make irresponsible comments on this blog to discredit it
If Kerry agreed to $2.5 trillion to meet India’s demand, then Pakistan would demand the same deal. This would either set off a new cold war in south Asia on top of the military spending there now or WWIII. So basically Kerry is a war monger by extension.
Here in Canada our new PM has contributed 2.5B CDN (1.5 B USD) over 5 years to the 100B Fund. Given we are about 2% of global CO2 emissions and according to Bjorn Lombourg all the committed reductions will account for a .17C drop in global temp, Canada’s contribution will be about .0034 of a Degree less warming! Are you kidding me? Go Trudeau! He was a teacher that taught drama, need I say more!
I’ll see your drama teacher and raise you one community organizer!
I’ll see your community organizer and raise you one ketchup heir-in law.
our new PM has contributed 2.5B CDN
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with the looney in freefall the total contribution will work out to something like 80 cents US.
There is carbon, therefor I am. Pretty simple rule.
I have been wondering lately how many solar panels do you need to install to produce 1 metric ton of aluminum or steel. Or if you can actually produce it only by using solar panels. You need coal to produce steel, so if you cannot use any coal it means that you cannot produce steel.
The reason I am asking is because Kerry mentions riding a bycicle and since bycicles are not made out of wood, but of metal, usually aluminum alloys, I was wondering if it were feasible to build the frame by only using the energy produced by solar panels, and if it is feasible, how much would it cost.
Also, India says they need 3.6 trillion to stop emitting CO2. I was wondering if anyone had actually calculated how expensive would be to produce and weld metals by using only solar energy and what would the price difference be when the solar only method is compared with the traditional method.
Since there are like 40000 delegates at COP21 discussing climate related issues and demanding measures, you may think that someone should have worked out the numbers.
urederra December 10, 2015 at 11:11 am
You’d think, but you’d be wrong.
The only numbers anyone is working on are the ones with $$$$ in front of them, not to mention lots of 000,000,000s behind them, and whether the numbers are going to go to their country, in their personal bank account, or both.
That’s why they are there, eh?
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Oh… and the food… yeah… the food is great! and isn’t costing them a dime.
“The fact is that even if every American citizen biked to work, carpooled to school, used only solar panels to power their homes, if we each planted a dozen trees, if we somehow eliminated all of our domestic greenhouse gas emissions, guess what – that still wouldn’t be enough to offset the carbon pollution coming from the rest of the world.
If all the industrial nations went down to zero emissions –- remember what I just said, all the industrial emissions went down to zero emissions -– it wouldn’t be enough, not when more than 65% of the world’s carbon pollution comes from the developing world.” – John Kerry
Actually if all industrialized nations, all developing nations, and all natural sources of CO2 were reduced to zero it would not be enough. The climate and global temperatures are not particularly sensitive to CO2. It would be enough to end life as we know it on earth.
What a compelling pitch to try and get India and China to comply!
Kerry is not the world’s best salesman!
Hope he runs for President.
It’s pretty simple. Even John could work it out if he had two brain cells to rub together …
http://s14.postimg.org/lu0r37e9t/Fiat.jpg
Is this the post-Gore era or was he out putting wanted posters up for the fact checkers of climate science?
Gore undobtedly was probably too busy looking for a little RR massage release to waste time littering Paris with posters most working Parisians don’t get.
http://www.businessinsider.com/two-more-women-accuse-al-gore-of-assault-2010-7
The Math Whiz Kerry has figured out that the US production of some 7% of the world’s output of life-giving CO2, being less than the other 93%, means that stopping all of our CO2 output would still leave the other 93%.
Stop the presses.
+1
Kerry actually said this:
“Try and picture a very thin layer of gases – a quarter-inch, half an inch, somewhere in that vicinity – that’s how thick it is. It’s in our atmosphere. It’s way up there at the edge of the atmosphere. And for millions of years – literally millions of years – we know that layer has acted like a thermal blanket for the planet – trapping the sun’s heat and warming the surface of the Earth to the ideal, life-sustaining temperature. Average temperature of the Earth has been about 57 degrees Fahrenheit, which keeps life going. Life itself on Earth exists because of the so-called greenhouse effect. But in modern times, as human beings have emitted gases into the air that come from all the things we do, that blanket has grown thicker and it traps more and more heat beneath it, raising the temperature of the planet. It’s called the greenhouse effect because it works exactly like a greenhouse in which you grow a lot of the fruit that you eat here.
This is what’s causing climate change. It’s a huge irony that the very same layer of gases that has made life possible on Earth from the beginning now makes possible the greatest threat that the planet has ever seen”
http://m.state.gov/md221704.htm
Kerry must really believe that there is a CO2 blanket-sphere around the Earth. This is incredible stupidity at the highest level. Normally this degree of derangement would preclude one from Public Life, but after O’Bummer was elected President, the way was clear in to office for Kerry.
Kerry: The Gift. That keeps on giving (over and over 😉 ).
#(:))
And over and over and over……….
(as others have said)
Biden = “Assassination Insurance” (Ann Coulter, I think)
Kerry =
“Makes Me Look Smart by Comparison”“Another Person as Stupid as I Am in the Room”Clearly the WH has reverse engineered the crazy ant strategy of the North Koreans and they have now weaponized it in John Kerry. The Russians may have laughed at this strategy early on but now they realize he is talking in code to such an extent that they cannot read him, like Navajo code talkers in WW2. This also explains Gore and Biden by the way. They have all been to the ranger camp for training on mindless eloquence in goop talk mixed with fear mongering. You are completely defenseless against them. Might as well throw down your rational arguments and facts now.
It is but one kind of clarity that supersedes the need for a rational explanation.
There are all sorts of attempts to define and justify the mistake, but as far as explaining what a greenhouse gas is, Kerry’s explanation appears to be as correct as any.
I can be a bit of a control freak, but I’ve never dreamed I might control the climate and the worlds population.
How much does it cost to become a high ranking member of the UN ?
(besides your soul).
Face it, if you question your morals, you don’t have it in you to be part of the U.N. !!
I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe Kerry actually believes in CAGW? He doesn’t want Washington to become like the Mekong Delta? He was a coward then. He’s being a coward now because he doesn’t want to relive the experience he lives with every day.
(He got a medal for that then. He want’s another one now?)
I have little regard for Kerry’s ability as politician or statesmen, but if you did not serve with him in Vietnam you should not belittle his service there.
adapt? whodathunk? wouldn’t Canada just love to be a little warmer? imagine the possibilities
John, I never believed they could scare Canadians with warmth. But yet there are people outside marching against climate change in the cold and snow. Our government is adding to the scare with their pictures of climate change..all taken outside of Canada of course. It makes me think Canadians are stupider than I ever thought. I am so scared of climate change that I moved to a warmer climate.
Signed Eve in the Bahamas, sitting in shorts and a tank top with all the windows open, it is 77F
Pictures ???? ….Ooops sorry, wrong thread !!
Well, until Eve takes a selfie, here ya go, Marcus! The movie star I’m guessing most resembles Eve! No, I do not know why my brain picked Candace Bergen. From Eve’s comments over the past 2 years, I just got the impression of a lovely woman who resembles Ms. Bergen of roughly the same age.
Kind of fun for Eve to see what another person imagines her to look like from her writing alone, I think.
Now, DO NOT POST THAT PICTURE OF ELEANOR ROOSEVELT THAT YOU THINK I LOOK LIKE — OKAY???!!! I DON’T NEED THAT, Maarrrrrcusss.
#(:))
“Eve” (just a guess)
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1786214/thumbs/o-CANDICE-BERGEN-570.jpg
The pictures Eve is referring to are related to a Canadian briefing and the research that Steve McIntyre has done on the images used in that briefing:
http://climateaudit.org/2015/12/07/what-science-is-telling-us-about-climate-damages-to-canada/
Garymount……I was referring to pictures of Eve in a tank top and shorts ! LOL
Janice, that’s not a tank top !
Marcus!
I know!!
It was the only photo I had of her (lol).
And it is a representation of what I think of when “Eve” “talks” here.
LOLOLOL.
. . . .. . .We are the BORG……Resistance is futile !!!!
And they have already assimilated the media, some religious orders, professional associations, and all federal agencies.
Don’t forget Prince Chuckles !