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Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Pope Francis, addressing members of the press while travelling on his chartered jet plane, has stated that the world is headed toward “suicide” if there is no climate agreement at the COP21 conference.
According to Reuters;
Francis, who visited Kenya, Uganda and the Central African Republic, also said the continent was “a martyr of exploitation” by wealthy countries who lust after its natural resources and try to impose Western values instead of concentrating on development.
The pope was asked if the U.N. climate summit in Paris would mark a turnaround in the fight against global warming.
“I am not sure, but I can say to you ‘now or never’,” he said. “Every year the problems are getting worse. We are at the limits. If I may use a strong word I would say that we are at the limits of suicide.“
Read more http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/30/us-climatechange-summit-pope-idUSKBN0TJ2FY20151130#L8vkviEg7TtoBrK4.99
I wish I had my own plane, though my dream is a little more modest than the Pope’s CO2 belching Alitalia jet.
For the most part, development means the adoption of Western values.
I wonder if the Pope would be up to a debate with Kenneth Humphries, the brilliant mind behind jesusneverexisted.com . I think Kenneth could probably put him away in the first round. What? The Israelites were never slaves in Egypt? The Noah flood was only one of nine known flood myths from antiquity and not even the oldest? Why was it Paul never quoted Jesus, referred to his virgin birth, recalled any of his miracles, when all of his collective letters were written before the gospels? How is it Josephus recalls 19 different Jesuses (plural of Jesus?) but never one from Nazareth? OH! Maybe because there was no Nazareth until hundreds of years later. So maybe, just maybe, before the Pope goes all schizo on Global Warming, maybe he should check into the authenticity of his own realm of knowledge. Like the current prophet of Mormonism, he probably knows he sitting on an empty crock of compost, but hell, he can’t let the cat out of the bag at this late date.
It is considered a fact that Jesus was crucified, by virtually all current historians, Nudely. There is corroborating evidence in the writings of several early Roman historians, including mention of several individuals that appear in the Book. This is not in serious dispute, in reality-land.
Paul was writing advice on how to live a Christian life.
He wasn’t writing as a historian.
It really is amazing how much ignorance the anti-Christians will buy into to.
Diaa Hadid, Associated Press, 21 December 2009, reported that archaeologists had uncovered a house in Nazareth that dated back to the time of Jesus. “The dwelling and older discoveries of nearby tombs in burial caves suggest that Nazareth was an out-of-the-way hamlet of around 50 houses on a patch of about four acres (1.6 hectares). It was evidently populated by Jews of modest means who kept camouflaged grottos to hide from Roman invaders, said archaeologist Yardena Alexandre, excavations director at the Israel Antiquities Authority.” As for Paul quoting Jesus, every Sunday churches recite 1 Corinthians 11: 23-26 in which, sorry, Paul quoted Jesus. There’s also Acts 20:35 and 1 Corinthians 7:10-11 and 1 Timothy 5:18. As for the virgin birth, Galatians 4:4 looks a lot like an allusion to it. Miracles? Paul was writing to people who had already heard about them; why go over it again? The letters of Peter, also written to people who had already heard about them, say nothing about specific miracles. That’d be, oh, like people here explaining in every posting what CAGW is and what a greenhouse gas is and so on.
The interesting question here is whether Pope Francis is a knave or a dupe. Is he honestly (but without having done due diligence) parroting what he has been told is the science? Though not a Catholic, I am aware of the Canon Law.
212§3 According to the knowledge, competence, and prestige which they possess, [all Catholics] have the right and even at times the duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church and to make their opinion known to the rest of the Christian faithful, without prejudice to the integrity of faith and morals, with reverence toward their pastors, and attentive to common advantage and the dignity of persons.
That is, if you are a Catholic reader of WUWT, you have a right and arguably a duty to tell Pope Francis he is wrong.
Thanks, Eric Worrall. No doubt Pope Francis, has been thoroughly indoctrinated in the greenhouse theory; The most successful scientific theory since the Sun ceased to go around the Earth.
No, this Pope is a lefty. In this case, he is the classic watermelon.
Obviously scientific intelligence is not required to be elected Pope. Now he must know that he knows nothing about the subject – so why is he claiming that the world is falling to pieces? What exactly is he frightened of? He doesn’t seem to mind Muslims beheading his fellow Christians.
It was hard to believe Pope Francis ignored the notoriety of the Franciscans in his continent of origin, but apparently even that cannot be excluded. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franciscan_missions_to_the_Maya
A man in a dress who leads the church of pedophilia. Sure, I’ll listen to him.
He should probably be more worried about hordes of extremist sacking the Vatican in the not too distant future.
Unfortunate words from an unfortunate man. Pope Francis speaks for a minority of American Catholics. Better that he expressed his alarm at the arrogance of Evo Morales.
The pope should stick with saving souls and leave the science of climate to the real climate scientists instead of the snake oil salesmen posing as climate scientists!!
The Pope should stick with saving souls.
But read Matthew 25:36-40
36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,[a] you did it to me.’
As Christianity fades in the face of a resurgent Islam he clutches at straws.
Speaking of ‘belief’ systems is it coincidental that the explosion in the Global Warming Faith happened at the same time as the expansion of Islam into the West?
Is humanity in general moving away from Rationalism and Enlightenment?
IMO the rise of the Church of CAGW coincided with the fall of Communism and is a replacement for the God Which Failed, hence watermelons.
That fits with my thesis!
Absolutely. The Brundtlandt Report was the signal and all the reds went green, externally, and co-opted the enviromental (sic) movement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brundtland_Commission
I was a lefty at the time and remember well its impact. Suddenly all that was green was red.
Yup, former capitalist exploiters transmogrified into “climate criminals”.
Is humanity in general moving away from Rationalism and Enlightenment?
Yes, unfortunately. After all, rationalism is a hetero-normative racist world view which has no more value than any other.
Do I get my degree?
Only a Master’s of PC gibberish Newspeak. You left out some Kritical buzzwords, such as male hegemonic hierarchical structure.
One of the biggest growth areas for Christianity is Nigeria. The Christians in Nigeria are constantly attacked by extreme Moslems.
Maybe he meant sewercide which means that the AGW theory would be flushed down the toilet.
Well, in his Bull, Francis did refer to a stinking pile of filth, did he not?
Its just the drugs talking.
Ha ha
“I wish I had my own plane, though my dream is a little more modest than the Pope’s CO2 belching Alitalia jet.” I hate this argument. Either we have a problem or we don’t, but just because someone is a hypocrite doesn’t mean there aren’t issues. We are all hypocrites in some form or fashion. This line of reasoning shuts down so much discourse in politics as to make every argument DOA.
A. Easy with the caps Abe.
B. And the periods.
C. Your analogy needs some work.
D. I assume you’re not a “c.o.l.l.e.g.e GRADUATE”.
E. Nevermind, just figured out this was a joke.
Here are some pictures of the Pope’s “suicide”:
“UAH V6 Global Temperature Update for November 2015: +0.33 deg. C”
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2015/12/uah-v6-global-temperature-update-for-november-2015-0-33-deg-c/
* Violent tornadoes near historic lows(peaked in the 1970’s during global cooling):
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/torn…
*Tropical cyclone energy(Typhoons/hurricanes) near historic lows(peaked in the mid 1990’s):
http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/accumulated_…
*Global drought is having a slight decrease:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/05/22/interesting-…
*Recent heat unprecendented?
Yeah, especially for those that don’t have weather/climate records that go back more than 30 years:
http://www3.epa.gov/climatechange/science/indicato…
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/14/newly-found-…
*Cold weather kills 20 times more people than hot weather:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/05/15052…
*Hurricane Sandy unprecedented from climate change?
Again, only if you don’t have weather records that go back very far and believe what your read.
Sandy was a cat. 1 hurricane vs the cat. 3 major hurricane Hazel that did the exact same thing in the exact same place, for the exact same reason……. in 1954:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Hazel
*In 1954, the East Coast region was hit by 3 cat. 3 major hurricanes in 3 months, last one Hazel…………during modest global cooling:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Atlantic_hurricane_season
*Benefits of fossil fuels 50 to 500 times greater than the costs to society:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/24/report-benef…
*The Social Benefit of Carbon: $3.5 Trillion in Agricultural Productivity:
http://www.co2science.org/education/reports/co2ben…
*Deserts greening from increasing CO2: (CO2/climate change from humans was likely not a factor in the drought in Syria which Obama/Kerry/Sanders claim caused ISIS and terrorism to be worse):
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/13070…
The only suicide that this operational meteorologist has been observing the past 3 decades is the one that is “killing” the truth about our booming biosphere, record crop yields and massive benefits from the modest warming………….which, BTW has been most concentrated in the coldest regions of the higher latitudes of the Northern Hemisphere, during the coldest time of year and at the coldest times of day(at night).
This reduction of the temperature disparity on the planet(from south to north) from Summer to Winter and from day to night is what we, in the real world call LESS extreme.
A meteorology 101 class is all that’s needed to understand why this more uniform planetary temperature gradient provides LESS energy for many severe weather events.
This is a test. Numerous of the previous links do not work. Been trying to replace them but for some strange reason am unable to post here anymore.
Let’s try one last time:
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/tornado/clim/EF3-EF5.png
http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/accumulated_cyclone_energy.asp?basin=gl
http://www3.epa.gov/climatechange/science/indicators/weather-climate/high-low-temps.html
http://www.co2science.org/education/reports/co2benefits/MonetaryBenefitsofRisingCO2onGlobalFoodProduction.pdf
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130708103521.htm
Mike, multiple links look like spam. That’s why your comment was held.
Let me tell you a little fairy tale of a company that we’ll call “United Nonsense Organisation Co.”, shortly UNO. This company with subsidiaries all over the world was prophesied by the prophets of doom: “Hey stop your irresposibility! Your current debt is $ 400 million, its rising at $ 12 million or 3% per year and, when this debt will reach $ 600 million, you all will be extinguished from the holy books of Wall-Street!” Everyone throughout the world, in- and outside the company, the CEOs as well as the High Priests of Metaphysics howled with fear and gathered in Paris to find a solution.
And a miracle happend! Dr.Hendricks associate of the subsidiary BRD GmbH&Co KG explained, that she wanted to play a leading role in reducing the $12 million debt increase! With the enormous sum of $ 6 (six $), one wants to stop the impending debt rise by decommissioning of the loss- making lignite power plants!
TV and Press in Germany celebrated this heroic decision and from now on,everything went for the better!
In the following winter and with zero wind the Germans sat shivering in the dark at night but the birth rate increased remarkably!
Though this be madness, yet there is method in’t!
(400ppm global CO2 concentration,3% increase p.y., 5% of CO2 concentration manmade, 3% Germany’s share, of which 10% share of electricity!)
Thanks Anthony!
Of course she pays $ 180 Dollars (typo 6 )to stop “ruin”! Sorry! Even this is a ridiculous sum compared with a 12 Million debt increase!
A skeptical Martin Luther would not survive the posting of the 95-plus-one theses in this intolerant enviro environment.
POPE FRANCIS
(The useful idiot sings a famous religious song)
(I)
I don’t care if it rains and freezes
Long as I got my plastic Jesus
Riding on the dashboard of my car
I’m driving fast to where I’m going
Horn a’honking, headlights glowing
Racing to that global climate war!
Its Armageddon straight ahead
For just as Adam Smith has said
Creating wealth sets each against all others!
The Covenant within the Ark
Is best fulfilled through Karl Marx
Shared poverty will make us Christian brothers!
(II)
I preach a new Theology
Derived from Climatology
My alter is the dashboard of my car
I had a vision, went to buy a
Naked, windup, plastic Gaia
I serve her in the global climate war
For Gaia mends the Trinity
She is the third Divinity
God feminine as Christ was made a male!
In all the nations they will herald
The Moving Spirit Of The World
— Who bobs Her head and shakes Her tail!
Eugene WR Gallun
I don’t care if it rains or freezes
Long as I got my plastic Jesus
Standing on the dashboard of my car
My plastic Jesus’ head unscrews
And he’s hollow inside and filled with booze
That’s how I hide my drinkin’ from the law
Send shysters, gats, and loot.
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And to a Catholic, suicide is a mortal sin.
You connect the dots.
+1. Makes it harder to believe the Pope actually used the word, suicide. not in catholic vocabulary.
Or else, it puts real punch in his demand that “we’ll always have Paris”.
Buying into the Green Blob as he does, he’s committing a lot of poor people to death.
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If there is no forcibly binding agreement as a result of Paris talks, then suicide will be avoided.
The pope has devolved into a PR-sound-bite-producing shaman (medicine man / witch doctor) for the crusade created by the exaggerators of the observationally challenged AGW hypothesis.
John
One religion pushing another
Religion of old has been (for many) superseded by the realities of Science
Now religion seems to be using the instrument that helped diminish it, to resurrect it lost relevance.
Just how has science superseded religion?
Unless you believe that we should be worshiping science.
If we get no agreement out of Paris and death then becomes inevitable, perhaps the pontiff will suggest we all take an easy way out to avoid the starvation, pestilence and death by flood. He could pour us all little dixie cups of Jim Jones koolaid out of the hammer-and-sickle crucifix he keeps at home.
The one thing that is certain to be agreed is which plush resort should be chosen for the COP22 beanfeast. .
I hear the arctic is supposed to be nice and toasty by then.
The #1 reason the Pope is all for global warming taxes on us is…he is from South America which mostly hopes to collect lots of loot from that trillion dollar promise of ‘sin money’ we are all expected to pay.
A few months ago I sent an email to the Vatican telling them I didn’t want to offend his Holiness, but would someone please explain to his Eminence that weather is controlled by God, not man.
Thank you very little.
Lunatic.