See Update 6 – a poll has been added about whether the COP21 climate conference in Paris should continue as planned.
Guest essay by Eric Worrall
BREAKING NEWS – a major Terrorist attack is in progress in Paris, which will shortly host the COP21 Climate Conference. At least 140 40 people are reported to be dead, up to 100 hostages still unaccounted for.
According to Sky News Australia;
French police officials say at least 40 people have been killed in multiple attacks in Paris, including one near the Stade de France sports stadium and another at a concert venue.
French Media is reporting at least 60 people have been killed.
Fifteen of the victims have been killed at the Bataclan concert hall in eastern Paris, with reports saying a further 100 people have been taken hostage.
Others have been killed in explosions near the stadium just north of Paris, where a France-Germany football match was taking place, and in a restaurant shooting.
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Lets us all hope that French authorities manage to stop this horrific terrorist attack, with minimal further loss of life.
UPDATE by Anthony: I wonder if President Obama will rethink his threat priorities now, this from the White House Twitter feed in April:
Update 2: I will add, that this is a terrible terrible thing, and I think I speak for all WUWT readers that our hearts go out to the victims and their families in Paris. Let’s hope there is a swift end to this, and that the guilty will be brought to justice.
Update 3: France is under a state of emergency, and has closed its borders:
“French President Francois Hollande declared a state of emergency and in a televised address to the nation announced that he was closing the country’s borders ‘to make sure that those who have committed these crimes can be stopped.’ He also indicated that authorities knew who was responsible for the attacks.”
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/13/dozens-killed-in-paris-terror-attacks?int=9b9e08
Update4: Meanwhile, Al Gore’s 24 hour climate change webcast is hosted at the Eiffel Tower.
http://news.yahoo.com/al-gore-hosting-climate-telethon-paris-eiffel-tower-163634484.html
It appears the 24 hours of reality/act on climate video feed is off now, probably a sensible thing to do. Screencap from https://www.climaterealityproject.org/24hoursofreality
Update 5: questions about COP21 already being asked according to BBC Europe editor Katya Adler:
Update 5: Watch France 24 Live in English http://www.france24.com/en/livefeed
Update 6: Poll added, since this is being discussed in media worldwide now.
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What a prelude to the Global Warming Is Greatest Danger meeting in Paris!
I’ve spent the last two hours watching this on the TV news.
We screwed up here in Europe.
But, what I notice in the delicate attempts by TV news presenters to discuss the wider implications of this crisis – is that they can not say anything intelligent about the greater issues that this represents.
When all of your intelligent thoughts are censored through politically correctness – then all that remains is stupidity.
As with “climate change” so with “multiculturalism”.
Sadly, we have placed a powerful censorship on reason and intelligence and self-interest.
Reasonable people who speak out are immediately smeared, “discredited”, “debunked”, or sued by Michael Mann. Or slapped with a fatwa.
Mark Steyn is aiming for all five.
Of course, it is too late for Europe.
The enemy is within the gates.
And apparently what the enemy hates more than anything in the world is fun.
Fun and rock and roll. My heart bleeds for these amazing talented musicians and their fans.
Current status is – very sad news and getting worse.
Steyn’s take on all this was in “America Alone: The End of the World As We Know It” from 2008:
“Someday soon, you might wake up to the call to prayer from a muezzin. Europeans already are. And liberals will still tell you that “diversity is our strength”–while Talibanic enforcers cruise Greenwich Village burning books and barber shops, the Supreme Court decides sharia law doesn’t violate the “separation of church and state,”
http://www.amazon.com/America-Alone-The-World-Know/dp/1596985275
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2015/1/10/1420893125894/Muslims-praying-Elise-Vin-012.jpg
13 Nov: The Hill: Timothy Cama: Gore suspends Paris climate concert during attacks
The United Nations’ Framework Convention on Climate Change, the international agency planning the climate pact negotiations, did not immediately respond to a request for comment on how the terrorist attacks will change plans for the meeting, if at all.
Gore’s event, dubbed 24 Hours of Reality, started hours before the attacks and was planned to feature artists including Duran Duran, Florence + The Machine, Mumford and Sons and Neil Young.
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/260144-gore-suspends-paris-climate-concert-during-attacks
13 Nov: The Wrap: Paris Attacks: Al Gore Cancels Eiffel Tower Climate Telethon After 5 Hours
Former Vice President Al Gore pulled the plug on a live benefit for climate change some five hours into a 24-hour streaming show from the foot of the Eiffel Tower on Friday evening.
“Out of solidarity with the French people and the City of Paris, we have decided to suspend our broadcast of 24 Hours of Reality and Live Earth.”…
Musicians Elton John and Bon Jovi were slated to play at the event, which did see a performance from Duran Duran, according to a Gore tweet…
http://www.thewrap.com/paris-attacks-al-gore-cancels-24-hour-eiffel-tower-climate-telethon-out-of-solidarity/
That wasn’t solidarity. The ratings had tanked and they pulled the plug on the event rather than have it look like a flop.
My thoughts are that he didn’t want to lose the 20 people who might have been in his audience. No way he cares a damn about the victims in France or their families.
So, the real target wasn’t COP21. It was Al Gores telethon. The Gore Effect has now driven people to terrorism.
Give us liberty or give us death. Anything but Gore.
I’ve written this short and helpful instruction guide for politicians, on how to wreck a perfectly good country.
Round one (terror):
1. Frighten the gullible public into believing that their personal safety is endangered by evil plotting terrorists.
2. Discover that in actual reality no such threat exists.
3. Manufacture a genuine terrorist threat in order to justify the original warning by:
— 3 a. Encouraging the immigration of ethnic minorities into your own country.
— 3 b. Using the now existing public fear of terrorists to justify invading the home territories of one of the ethnic minorities.
— 3 c. Utterly degrading and humiliating their relatives and former countrymen by subjecting them to absolute violent horror and prolonged injustice.
4. BINGO.
5. You now have a genuinely furious group of people living within your own borders who are hell-bent on attacking the native civilian population.
6. Congratulations, you have completed round one of trashing a perfectly good country. You can now move on to round two (fascism and kleptocracy).
Round two (the fascism and kleptocracy bit):
1. You can now restrict civil liberties, ban anything and everything, snoop on the private affairs of your citizens, and start new wars as and when you feel like it.
2. Whilst everyone is distracted, raid the state coffers and give billions of pounds to all your banker friends. The public will be so confused by this point, that they probably won’t notice what is going on right in front of their eyes.
Well done, you have just utterly shredded a once proud nation of people. Now leave office and take your wads of cash and go and live somewhere nice and sunny, that hasn’t yet been sabotaged by tossers like yourself!!
Become a peace envoy and consultant to the Saudis or something like that. Ideally.
I just want to point out that the premise of “indefatigablefrog” is total bullshit — the Muslims are not motivated by anything that the “infidel” has said or done, rather, the motivation is laid out by their holy book the Koran which baldy exhorts them to enslave or kill the infidel. The first USA war was against the Muslim Barbary pirates in the 1790’s because the pirates were attacking American ships and enslaving the crews. Upon inquiring why the pirates were doing this, Madison was told that they were acting upon the precepts of the Koran which instructed them to enslave the infidel. So the USA launched its first post-revolutionary war. Nothing has changed since then, and the Muslims are still attacking based on what is written in the Koran. So pay no attention to those who claim that Western actions have anything to do with Muslim action — it doesn’t. Islam stands out in the world as the only religion of evil.
New Zealand Willy, you are correct. All Mr. Frog need do is to read it (the Koran) and world history to know.
One of several concise, yet informative introductions to the Koran challenged among us.
https://youtu.be/bMl8pzyAx0g
One scholar’s explanation for the Koran’s unintelligible gibberish:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Syro-Aramaic_Reading_of_the_Koran
Whatever the case, the book is definitely no fun to read. It combines a Cliff’s Notes mashup of the Bible with blood-thirsty admonitions and errant nonsense.
We have had muslims living in large numbers in the UK for many decades.
Perhaps you would like to explain why such Koran reading muslims were not formerly responsible for any acts of terror whatsoever. Not prior to 2003.
I am perfectly aware of the role that “precepts of the Koran” have played.
But you seem to be oblivious to all other contributing factors.
Sometimes a situation has more than ONE contributing factor.
In my view your claim that western actions have NOTHING to do with Muslim action – is total bullshit.
Well done for falling in love with your own massive over-simplification and one dimensional analysis.
In my view your claim that western actions have NOTHING to do with Muslim action – is total bullshit.
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I agree with you. We are Infidels. Our existence is upsetting to Fundamentalists. They are duty bound to convert us to Islam or send us to God for judgement.
The Western response has of course been a disaster. Shiite and Sunni conflict has kept Islam in check for 1000 years. Western involvement is like Ronald Reagan’s spacemen speech. By providing a common enemy, the West has united Islam in a war to defeat the common enemy.
England has been having trouble with Muslims within it’s borders for decades. The problem is that the PC media either ignore it or don’t identify the source of the problems.
Muslims have been using the Koran as an excuse to kill infidels since Islam was invented by the schizophrenic child molester 1400 years ago.
Ferd Berple (of the many wise and insightful comments),
You mistake a catalyst for the underlying causation of Muslim violence. But for Islam, there would be no Jihad. The actions of Western nations may have speeded up the Islamofascist program, but it was inevitable.
You are, here, perhaps, a victim of Bob Tisdale’s “illusion of control” mentality. Victims who blame themselves for not taking better preventive measures do so because they would rather see themselves as careless or stupid than as victims of what they could not control.
Your snarling tone in the use of the term “B-s” indicates that, on this issue, for some reason, your emotions are hindering your usually sharp intellect. Perhaps, there is a particular Western military or other type of operation that enraged (es) you and your hate is so strong you can’t think straight about Islam… .
With admiration for your commenting in general (and looking forward to more on non-Islam topics),
Janice
Bs
On the frog
A very grown up, insightful and sophisticated argument from you then. Well done!! You win a big prize and a gold star. See my comment above.
It was more intelligent than a premise based on lies.
Indefat: You had a different type of immigration to start with: those who wanted to escape from medieval totalitarianism to secular societies, to freedom, education, safety and economic potential. I know of many Iranian examples who were well educated, westernophile, modern, productive people. Iranians have historically been a sophisticated, cultured people – they gave pretty good measure in their wars with Greece.
The latter hordes are not interested in EU or its culture, but are seeking a world Caliphate. They’ve always hated you and consider your culture decadent an immoral. You are in a pickle in EU. It’s time for you and your fellows to wake up from this mea culpa political correctness that keeps your head in the sand and keeps you forgiving and welcoming. When push comes to shove, you have to forget what caused it; write it off and begin corrective measures to save your selves. They blew up athousand year old 100m stature of Buddha and recently blew up Palmyra in Syria. What do you think they will do with Christopher Wren’s architecture, the monuments, the art, the libraries, the museums, Christ’s College, Oxford….when they are the largest constituency in the land. Will you still be blaming yourself? And all the moderates won’t take long to become politically correct for the new dynasties.
A couple of big problems with your premise.
1) Muslims have always been terrorists, as long as their have been Muslims.
2) Muslims are a threat to your personal safety.
3) If you think that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are what caused the Muslims to want to kill infidels, you have never talked to any Muslims or read their holy book.
4) While the defeat may have been humiliating for some, most were glad that the Taliban and Saddam were gone.
5) There was nothing humiliating about the occupation.
We’re going to have to agree to differ.
Here in the UK, we were not subject to any Islamic terrorism.
When I grew up we had terrorist attacks regularly – by the IRA.
Our leftist Government encouraged mass-immigration of Muslims into the UK.
Then our leftist Government took us to war with Saddam Hussein and the Taliban.
The so-called war on terror.
Back in 1997 when the UK left came to power none of these problems existed for the UK.
And now we are facing catastrophe.
Concerning humiliation – Abu Graib?
So we see things completely differently.
Mr. Frog,
YHGTBSM!
No Islamic terror in the UK? Where have you been?
http://markhumphrys.com/islamist.terror.uk.html
Were you packed in cotton in 2005, or what?
Indefat.: You only need one on your list: let them come in droves into your country. These people already didn’t like you as a matter of culture.
You’re right Gary.
Some additional clarity was clearly missing from my satire – for the benefit of our American friends here especially.
I guess that I should have explicitly stated that we might choose a target ethnic group with which we already have a long history of problematic and violent interactions.
Just to make it plain that this nuance of history has not escaped my attention!!!
Whatever course we took here in the EU, we certainly managed to optimize the level of f**k-up achieved at zero benefit to ourselves. Who ordered the social catastrophe?!!
Update 6 … nah, don’t cancel … the worker bees are all there already … let COP 21 play out, since it’s already being announced that no binding treaty will come out of it anyway.
Don’t believe it; they’ll try for a treaty and declare it binding as soon as it’s signed.
spot on. the treaty will be used as a club, backed by the world bank and others to justify what would otherwise be unthinkable. after all, the governments all signed up voluntarily. so what excuse do they have for not following though with their promises?
I don’t agree with the climate change agenda one iota, however the conference should go ahead as planned. Otherwise it is appeasement and cowering to terrorism by changing how we go about our business.
If the conference is cancelled I would view it more of an excuse rather than acknowledge the fact that the climate change dogma is highly flawed.
It might be aimed at COP21, or at least making a relevant point about the world’s mistreatment of the peace-loving arab world.
When the main industry sustaining arab economies was closed down, at least they had some hope of moving to the fossil fuel industry. Now with both slavery and fossil fuels no longer respectable, what is an arab to do for a living in the future?
Terrorists. Be they environmental fanatics or Islamic fanatics should not be negotiated with and it appears, in the news reports I’ve seen, that the French authorities in Paris did not.
John
They didn’t negotiate because the hostages and the suicide bombers were all dead before the police could move.
I don’t know of anyone who would recommend continuing negotiations while hostages are being shot.
reminder:
4 Nov: Guardian: Adam Vaughan: Al Gore’s plan for huge global climate concerts downgraded to Paris webcast
Second round of Live Earth music concerts promised by former US vice-president and Pharrell Williams were due to be broadcasted to billions around the world
In January, the duo and producer Kevin Wall used the World Economic Forum in Davos to announce a global event that would reach 2 billion people across 193 television networks, with promotional materials promising 100 artists in seven shows.
In May organisers delayed the event from a scheduled date of 18 June and said a free, public concert would be held in Paris in the autumn instead.
But this week organisers told the Guardian that Live Earth had been reduced to an event on the 13 and 14 November at the Champ de Mars in Paris that will be ***closed to the public and streamed online instead…
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/nov/04/al-gores-plan-for-huge-global-climate-concerts-downgraded-to-paris-webcast
If ever there was a justification to wage war, this would be it.
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Yeah, that will do it. Your friend is a nut. And why exempt Turkey? Erdogan is heading in the same direction as the rest of the region? And why exempt the ‘stans? Most of them are as oppressive as the regimes are pretty bad. Do we really want to support Karimov?
Karimov is preferable to an Islamic regime. Overthrowing authoritarian dictators in Islamic countries doesn’t have a good track record.
Erdogan is walking a tight rope. He’s not an Islamist, but has to play one on TV. Unfortunately, what he won’t do is what would help stabilize the region the most, namely, let SE Turkey join Iraqi and Syrian Kurdistan and give Alawite majority Hatay back to Syria. The French gave it away in hopes of keeping Turkey out of the war looming in 1938.
The Turks lose nothing but imperial pride by setting their part of Kurdistan free. The hydropower can be shared. I hoped that the new oil pipeline from Iraqi Kurdistan would soften Erdogan up, and for a while, before ISIS took Mosul, it did. Now he has survived the elections, but he still needs the US to get rid of Assad. His Benghazi deal for LIbyan arms for the Free Syrian Army didn’t go as planned, nor did US trainers for the FSA. Now he has the Russians to contend with, so he’s never needed NATO more.
The ‘Stans are exempt because Russia considers them in its sphere of influence, and they are allegedly secular states, rather than Islamic, like Pakistan. Also, if we bomb Islamabad, we’d need the ‘Stans to support ops in Afghanistan. Plus, I like Manas, Kyrgyzstan, its Russian 9% beer and blonde barberesses.
Rattus Norvegicus
First how many forms of Catholics are there, and which acknowledge the Pope as their religion’s leader.(No NOT Protestants) (most of Islams dealings with Christianity pre-date the reformation)
Next try that with Islam. Oh my. are you in for a shock.
Here’s a good “Live Update” source for Paris Attacks…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks
Great summary article, Ben D. Thanks for posting that.
Tks Janice.. 🙂
Part of me thinks it should be cancelled as a mark of respect for the dead. However, a larger part of me hopes it goes ahead so the general public can see just how ridiculous climate alarmists look fretting about a fraction of a degree temperature rise long after we’re all dead- while the real and growing threat of Islamic extremism goes unaddressed.
COP21 will spin the terrorist attacks into an excuse for climate action.
“The tragic events of last month show we have to act now or things will get worse”.
5 will get you fifty that Obama will say something to that effect over the next month.
The Muzzies need to be very careful as the Europeans are very, very good at killing and do it at the industrial level. It has been a while since it was last done. Once it starts, there won’t be many of the followers of Mohammad left on the Continent or in neighboring countries afterwards. In sadness, cheers –
President Hollande has promised that tomorrow France will begin a war without mercy.
HAHAHAHAAAA he’ll launch a few extra air strikes against ISIL while totally ignoring the Muslims already in France. From what others have said, the French media are being very careful to avoid mentioning “Islam” and “Muslims”. The French public will get the picture very well! That includes the usefulness of the “4th estate”.
France will begin a war without mercy.
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translation: French citizens will be arrested and locked up without mercy to show the government is serious.
I saw several unconfirmed reports last night that a number of refugee camps across Europe had been attacked.
reminder:
13 Nov: Voice Of America: AP: Al Gore Hosting Climate Telethon from Paris’ Eiffel Tower
French President Francois Hollande and former U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan are among other officials scheduled to take part in the event.
http://www.voanews.com/content/al-gore-hosting-climate-telethon-from-paris-eiffel-tower/3056798.html
As much as I’d like to see the Paris climate talks fail, we need to stand in solidarity with our French kin.
There is zero chance, IMO, that the COP21 will go on as planned.
France is in a state of emergency…basically martial law.
Gunman are still at large and a manhunt is under way.
And in the coming days, France will declare and go to war with ISIS…a real war…not a few bombs here and there.
My wife and I put on the Marsellaise (the great Berlioz version) as a tribute and a reminder that France will survive this and will prevail.
I like Mireille Mathieu’s rendition. She performed a capela at Sarkozy’s victory rally. He might not have been able to stop this attack after the Charlie Hebdo outrage, but could not have done worse than Hollande.
“Play the Marsellaise” — from movie “Casablanca”
(youtube)
The French, triumphed over the Naz1s. With a strong “coalition of the willing,” she will triumph over Islam.
How fitting that the song was being sung in what is now a spider’s den of Islamists…. they, too, will fall…. IF we in the free world elect leaders firmly committed to liberty.
{Please note: it is not the Germans of today who are represented in that movie.}
And, “La Marseillaise” — Vive la France!
Aux armes, Citoyens!
And to you, my beloved sister and brother Americans….
NEVER stop defending this:
“The French, triumphed over the Naz1s.” For pity’s sake, the French *LOST* the war. What part of “LOSE” do you not understand?!?!? I know that “the victors write the histories”, but even the victors have been unable to expunge the simple historical fact that the Germans wiped ass with the French in 1940. Would you kindly stick to the facts.
Willy,
True. Even the Free French who sided with the Allies were mainly colonial troops with French officers. Most of the grunts were Muslim. The Moroccan Goumiers were infamous for raping Italian women and priests.
Here’s a test for the dysfunctional last couple of generations: Who did the Americans first fight in the WWII European theater in 1942? Hint: it was a four-month action to enable the American landing in North Africa, against a consistently shooting resisting enemy. Answer: the French.
Dear NZ Willy and Gloat,
Thank you, so much, for telling me the WWII history you figure I do not know. Yes, Paris fell to the Germans… as did much of Europe. The Allies, of which France remained one, won. France (true France, not Vichy France) remained part of the WWII version of the coalition of the willing. Their side won.
In your eagerness to find fault with my writing, I think you overlooked my point.
Q: Is now really the time to be denigrating France for her failures in WWII?
Let’s be friends again — okay, guys? You, if you would be so kind, stop treating me like an ignorant mental lightweight and I, for my part, will treat you like generous-spirited, intelligent, people I have no doubt (from your other writing) that you are.
Pax?
Hope so.
Janice
Janice Moore , NZ Willy ,
One of the terms of the surrender document the French had to sign, was that they defend their colonies.
If they did not the rest of France would be occupied.
At the time the French did not know who would win. The Japanese were still holding their own in the pacific and Germany was still beating the crap out of most of the Red counter offenses.French officers in the colonies were trying to save what little independence France still had. I would never wish anyone to be in their shoes What bitter cups to drink from.
When the Germans finally occupied the rest of France the excuse they used was that the french did not up hold their treaty obligations to defend their colonies.
As for the Germans wiping the floor with the French? Well in the first years of the war who didn’t they beat the snot out of? Russia survived because of sheer distances and numbers. The Brits? Dunkirk anyone.
And as for USA Kasserine Pass Rommel’s last victory? By the way When the Italians joined in at the end of 1940 invasion of France, french reservists ran them back across the border.
michael
Mike,
True, the Germans in 1939-41 beat everybody, however the BEF was in an untenable position after the French right was turned. The Force was too small to fight the Wehrmacht on its own.
Juin’s “Little Army of Italy” (FEC) was a good French formation in 1944, but it consisted mostly of North African troops. His good advice at Cassino was ignored by the British and Americans.
I hope you are right, but have my doubts.
I put on the requiems from French composers Gabriel Fauré and Maurice Duruflé.
http://www.amazon.com/Faure-Requiem-Op-48-Durufle/dp/B000003CU2/
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81rSgE9eKhL._SY355_.jpg
What many people don’t understand is that Paris is home to many, many unemployed Muslims and other cultures who live in ghettos on the north side of Paris with very high unemployment. These people became French citizens as a result of past French policy or practice of acquiring full or partial political control over another country, occupying it with settlers, and exploiting it economically the state apparatus that was dominant under colonialism. This happened in Algeria, Morocco, Lebanon, etc. during many past decades when France basically ran those countries. Same with Vietnam before we got involved under Kennedy and France pulled out.
The police typically won’t even go into those areas out of fear for regular police patrols.
It is not difficult to recruit young, unemployed pissed off young people to become terrorists.
Harder to get suicide bombers, though.
Not if your family will be killed if you resist. If you cooperate they will receive $25,000 on your sacrifice, and will be cared for by the community. Decide, are you to be a dead traitor or a heroic martyr?
Not Paris but Calais ‘Jungle’ refugee camp on fire…..
https://www.rt.com/news/321967-calais-refugee-camp-fire/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS
You wrote: “Same with Vietnam before we got involved under Kennedy and France pulled out.”
No.
I don’t know if you’re trying to re-write history, or displaying your lack of knowledge thereof, but French colonial control of Viet Nam effectively ended with the decisive defeat of their Far East Expeditionary Corps by the Viet Minh at the battle of Dien Bien Phu in 1954, while John F. Kennedy was not elected U.S. president until 1960.
The war ended shortly after the Battle of Dien Bien Phu and the signing of the 1954 Geneva Accords.
–Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Dien_Bien_Phu
Pretty tasteless. You should probably take this down. It has far more to do with French history and treatment of its North African immigrant population dating from colonial days (and recent racist legislation) than it does with COP21.
The terrorists were reported to say it was for “Syria”. The beefs of young adult French Muslim males might increase the supply of recruits, but jihad is their declared motivation. Assuming of course that all the terrorists were in fact French, which is not yet known.
Guess what, the Syrian refugees are fleeing exactly this sort of shit. Learn what the hell is going on and why. Historical resentments last a long time. They even last a long time in the United States, as some have only recently learned.
I’d be surprised if you have learned more about what is going on in Syria and Iraq than I have.
Among the Syrian refugees are those responsible for the shit that is going on there. Why is that hard to grasp? Look at their barbaric behavior toward the Hungarian aid workers trying to feed and water the savages. Thank God that the kids’ moms let them take the Red Cross food and water kicked away by the men.
If you want Arab Muslim refugees in Europe, then by all means invite them into your home to rape your wife and daughter.
If you think that the terrorists are justified in slaughtering French civilians, because of what is going on in Syria, then we have nothing to discuss.
have to think “for syria” in this case..meansto/ for those that have been culling isis isil IN syria recently..didnt think france had been doing much useful there?
bit too hard to try this stunt in Russia mayhap?
because of what is going on in Syria
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Blame the victim is a very common PC rationalization people use for problems.
For example. 911 – Americans brought in on themselves. Benghazi – YouTube posting upset Muslims. Paris – caused by the west bombing IS in Syria.
Not just politicians. Ulcers – caused by stress (patient is the cause). Rape – she was asking for it (provocative dress)
But of course the reason the problems cannot be solved is because of the rationalization. The solution requires that you shift the blame from the victim to the perpetrator. Something that is prevented under the Politically Correct mandate.
Norway rat you are.
Norway Rat, this is what you are in for.
Ah yes, you even know where I live. Should I tell the cops here about your implied threat? It is so nice that Tony has such upright citizens as you patrolling his boards.
DB,
More on Muslim rapists in the UK and, yes, Norway:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoiCYwoJKrE
Definitely, welcome millions more with open arms!
Rattus Norvegicus you are welcome to come over where I live. The first Syrian Refugees to arrive in the United States are living near my home. They were set up here by the Islamic Center of Claremont.
More on Muslim rapists in the UK and, yes, Norway:
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as the interview identified, the PC Press is blaming the victims. The “crime” the women committed? They aren’t wearing the Muslim headscarf.
We have the same problem here in Canada. Been going on for 40 years. Rape gangs. Typically 4 brown men against 1 white girl. 2 hold her legs, 1 her arms. They take turns, front and back. Threats are made if the crime is ever reported. They take the girl’s ID as security. We know who you are, and can come back any time. The girls live in fear. Wait until it happens to one of your loved ones.
The young girls absolutely know what is going on. But no one speaks out because it is racist. So the rapes continue with impunity.
Richard G.: and it’s continuing:
“The first transport of refugees arrived in New Orleans recently and will be resettled in Louisiana and 180 other American communities.
The 10,000 Syrian refugees are first flown to the United States, according to the French news wire Agence France-Presse, with the State Department paying the International Organization for Migration (IOM) for the airfare.”
Don’t recall hearing much about this on MSM.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/11/13/ironic-timing-today-first-load-of-10000-syrian-refugees-has-arrived-in-new-orleans-all-single-males-18-30-years-old/
10,000 Syrian refugees are first flown to the United States
It’s going to be the 18- to 45-year-old male for the most part
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WTF???
Whatever happened to women and children first? How is it that the “refugees” are combat age males? Just when you think the government can make a bigger mistake to top the last big mistake.
THERE IS NO WAY ANY COUNTRY SHOULD BE ACCEPTING COMBAT AGE MALES AS REFUGEES IN PREFERENCE TO WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
Hmmm seeding “these refuges to Louisiana? Good luck trying that crap there.
The folks in the deep south are not to be messed with.
michael
Is that the best your shriveled lump of grey matter could muster? Wow, you guys really are hurtin’,
My comment directed to Rattus, obviously.
Norway rat is convinced that the attacks of today are the result of French abuse of people from former colonies that immigrated for some reason to France over the last many years. The comment implies a justification and includes an explicit assertion that legislation recently enacted somehow warrants mass murder of citizens.
Apparently, this apologist for 7th. century bigotry cannot conceive of the impetus for this islamist blood-lust coming from the manifesto of the faith.
On other occasions, commenters like rattus will note that most of the victims of militant Islam are indeed Muslims but, somehow, that is also the fault of the 19th, century European colonialists. For a fellow with a Latin moniker he seems remarkably oblivious to the string of conflict and injustice throughout history in every corner of the world.
Are French assassins constantly striving to deliver retribution on their neighbours for the outrage that was WW2?
Brown rats do carry a lot of diseases, but aren’t a major reservoir of bubonic plague.
The Black Death did however arrive in Europe with black rats and their fleas on merchant ships returning the Islamic world.
When exactly did France have a colony in Syria?
http://maaber.50megs.com/issue_august03/lookout2f.htm
Rattus: UK, Denmark, US, Australia, Canada….didn’t have North African colonies to piss off, but that didn’t prevent terrorism. Indeed, it was a Canadian Mulsim terrorist who fashioned the “switch” for the London Underground bombing. Stop this politically correct Mea Culpa Eurospeak of blaming your loathsome selves for what these uncivilized thugs are doing. I see it in all your media and politicians. These people don’t need any provocation. Even if you feel you were responsible, European cultural genocide is not enough of an apology for these hateful people. Probably you can’t help yoursefl because of the kindergarten to graduate school lefty, proppagandist, politically correct, self-hatred education, you received. Your governments should be castigated and replaced for failing to provide support and safety to its citizens. I hope Hollande means what he says in terms of a response, although I don’t think so.
Al Jazeera television is giving a very decent coverage to the situation in Paris. Non political.
It is rather sad that of the cable news networks Al Jazeera generally has better coverage than CNN, FOX or MSNBC. Yeah, they are more or less liberal, but when I’ve watched them, they seem to do a decent job.
Al Jazz had more even-handed journalism than most news networks in the US. Not perfect, but better.
If these are walk in immigrants I fear the Clash of Civilizations is about to erupt all over Europe and Angela Merkel is the Neville Chamberlain of our times. Against that backdrop the vicissitudes of climate science will be completely forgotten as the very survival of the ethos of science is what’s at stake.
AlJazeera Television is giving a very balanced news broadcast on the Paris terrorist attack.
Balanced?
Pray do tell. are they giving “both sides” of the bloodthirsty murder story?
That you would even make such a statement speaks volumes…like it is a noteworthy event for a news source to pretend to be somewhat unbiased.
This is Europeanitis is a self hatred disease, the terrorists are the victims disease, Gee, but look what we did in the 11thCentury……
Tu l’as voulu, Francois Hollande.
A really bad day for France. German TV channels are reporting since hours non stop.
Despite of my pity with all the victims of these terrible terrorist attacks, I voted with NO for 2 reasons.
First, even postponing COP21 wouldn’t change anything but again a lot more of unnecessary money expenditure.
And second, I hate those countries pretending expression of condolence. Exactly those countires have been ruining Third World countries in the past, their economic system and, in the sequel, caused vast more deaths from hunger and unemployment. Hypocrites they all are!
thanks for posting – I’m tempted to write something here about blood versus CO2, but I shall refrain – honest people have paid a terrible price for going to a theater or a stadium provided by a modern civilization fueled by natural energies –
I’ve checked in with http://www.france24.com/en/livefeed
several times tonight and I seriously doubt that was powered by battery stored back-up of solar or bird blenders.
Memo for Angela Merkel:
Reconsider open doors immigration policy.
How about letting in only Christian and Yezidi refugees, plus Kurdish women, children and old men? You can help Turkey cover the costs of harboring Arab refugees.
Which is more threatening? The attack in Paris, or Climate Change?
Watching with horror the multiple simultaneous Islamic terrorist
attacks on innocent civilians in Paris, France, while Paris was under
the highest possible alert for terrorist activities, the French
President Allande among the spectators at a soccer match between France
and Germany, and the climate control conference COP21 only two weeks
away, the words of President Obama still rings in my ears:
“My definition of leadership would be leading on climate change, an
international accord that potentially we’ll get in Paris. My definition
of leadership is mobilizing the entire world community to make sure that
Iran doesn’t get a nuclear weapon.” more… http://lenbilen.com/2015/11/13/which-is-more-threatening-the-attack-in-paris-or-climate-change/
As people are actually dying from terrorism, Obama should rethinks climate change as greatest threat which as yet to produce a single body.
You make the mistake to think that Obama has any sincerity or reason behind his stances. He stands as he does, ideologically. Facts and events are irrelevant.