Readers may recall back on May 13th of this year I posted about a change in policy related to hate mail and hateful comments that get sent our way in:
Hump day hilarity: WUWT’s new policy on hate mail – your hate mail will be published
Since then, it seems the hate mail has dialed back a bit, probably because the sort of people that hurl this dreck are cowards who don’t put their name behind their words, sort of like “Sou” at “hotwhopper”, (aka Miriam O’Brien) who prefers daily denigration from the comfort of anonymity even though she’s been known for quite some time.
I do have a a couple of new ones though, and they are just as hilarious as the first one. The email addresses have been redacted, but they are likely disposable email addresses based on the domain used. Can’t have any direct retorts, now can we?
Ah, the projection of moral superiority is deliciously ironic, isn’t it?
Interestingly, the recent official record reports for Seattle are nowhere near 106 degrees:
RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
0126 AM PDT TUE JUN 30 2015
...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT SEATTLE WA WFO...
A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 89 DEGREES WAS SET AT SEATTLE WA WFO YESTERDAY.
THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 88 SET IN 2008.
RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
0126 AM PDT SUN JUN 28 2015
...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT SEATTLE WA WFO...
A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 90 DEGREES WAS SET AT SEATTLE WA WFO
YESTERDAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 89 SET IN 2000.
Other records were a bit warmer, but these are all to the far eastern side of Washington State, where hot and dry are normal climate events for summer.
RECORD REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SPOKANE WA
240 PM PDT MON JUN 29 2015
...SOME RECORD HIGHS FROM THIS WEEKEND`S HEAT WAVE
SITE NEW RECORD PREV RECORD PERIOD OF RECORD
JUNE 28TH JUNE 28TH
WENATCHEE ARPT WA*** 109 100 (1987) 1959
SPOKANE ARPT WA** 105 96 (1896) 1881
LEWISTON ARPT ID** 111 104 (1939) 1881
PULLMAN/MOSCOW ARPT WA** 105 94 (1992) 1940
MOSES LAKE WA** 112 99 (2008) 1947
EPHRATA WA** 110 99 (1987) 1948
OMAK ARPT WA**** 110 97 (1992) 1931
MAZAMA WA 102 96 (1987) 1948
PORTHILL WA* 99 96 (2006) 1892
PLUMMER ID** 99 87 (1992) 1948
CHELAN WA**** 109 96 (1992) 1890
STEHEKIN WA 99 97 (2003) 1906
SAINT MARIES ID 97 97 (1925) 1897
BAYVIEW MODEL BASIN ID 93 91 (1948) 1947
ROSALIA WA 100 99 (1939) 1893
HARTLINE WA** 107 97 (1979) 1927
BOUNDARY DAM WA 90 84 (1989) 1965
NORTHPORT WA** 104 98 (1979) 1899
ODESSA WA** 110 103 (2008) 1902
RITZVILLE WA 107 105 (1939) 1899
CHIEF JOSEPH DAM WA**** 113 100 (1987) 1949
BONNERS FERRY ID*** 105 96 (2006) 1907
LA CROSSE WA*** 113 98 (2008) 1931
REPUBLIC WA** 104 98 (1929) 1899
COLVILLE WA** 108 95 (2008) 1899
LIND WA** 109 101 (1939) 1931
WINTHROP WA* 103 96 (1987) 1906
SANDPOINT ID** 102 94 (1939) 1910
SITE NEW RECORD PREV RECORD PERIOD OF RECORD
JUNE 27TH JUNE 27TH
CHELAN 106 96 (2002) 1890
GRAND COULEE DAM WA 103 98 (2006) 1934
WINTHROP WA 100 99 (1925) 1906
WENATCHEE ARPT WA 105 101 (2006) 1959
SPOKANE ARPT WA 102 98 (1925) 1881
LEWISTON ARPT ID 107 103 (1925) 1881
MULLAN PASS ID** 85 79 (2006) 1938
LA CROSSE WA 110 101 (2006) 1931
PULLMAN/MOSCOW ARPT WA 99 94 (1970) 1940
MOSES LAKE WA 106 101 (2006) 1947
EPHRATA WA 107 101 (2006) 1948
LIND WA 105 100 (2002) 1931
COLVILLE WA 104 99 (1925) 1899
REPUBLIC WA 101 97 (1925) 1899
OMAK ARPT WA 107 100 (2006) 1931
HOLDEN VILLAGE WA 94 90 (1992) 1930
SANDPOINT ID 100 94 (2006) 1910
NORTHPORT WA 101 98 (1979) 1899
ODESSA WA* 106 101 (2006) 1902
RITZVILLE WA 104 99 (1939) 1899
PRIEST RAPIDS DAM WA 108 104 (2006) 1956
PLAIN WA* 98 94 (1992) 1937
SITE NEW RECORD PREV RECORD PERIOD OF RECORD
JUNE 26TH JUNE 26TH
LA CROSSE WA 106 101 (2002) 1931
CHIEF JOSEPH DAM WA 106 103 (2002) 1949
PRIEST RAPIDS DAM WA 104 103 (1987) 1956
WENATCHEE ARPT WA 102 100 (2006) 1959
OMAK WA 102 101 (1992) 1931
LIND WA 101 100 (2002) 1931
COLVILLE WA* 101 100 (2002) 1899
GRAND COULEE DAM WA 99 98 (1992) 1934
SANDPOINT ID 95 95 (2006) 1910
NEZ PERCE ID 92 90 (1992) 1901
WATERVILLE WA 97 97 (1896) 1893
RITZVILLE WA 101 100 (1925) 1899
* TIED ITS MONTHLY HIGH TEMPERATURE RECORD FOR JUNE
** BROKE ITS MONTHLY HIGH TEMPERATURE RECORD FOR JUNE
*** TIED ITS ALL TIME HIGH TEMPERATURE RECORD
**** BROKE ITS ALL TIME HIGH TEMPERATURE RECORD
While certainly it was one of the warmest Washington days ever recorded by thermometers, note the period of record for the oldest temperature records only extends as far back as 1881. I always find it amusing when people such as “Benno” think recorded history translates to just over 100 years.
What they miss is the millennia before that when the land known as “Washington state” existed and had climate. How does “Benno” know such temperatures didn’t exist before? He doesn’t; our current set of records is just a flyspeck of time, and such a small time period sample can’t capture the dynamics of the climate over past millennia.
But, they’ll emotionally wail about it anyway, and cite it as “proof” of climate change.
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“Bringing climate change to a halt” ?
Weather happens. These people didn’t get the memo, apparently.
They plan to stop climate change, but they’re cool with the weather changing.
I’m not sure that plan has been fully fleshed out yet?
Here in Vancouver, BC (Canada) our maximum temperature for June 26 was 27C (81F) – a bit warmer than average, but not like 1942 when it hit 30 (88F).
Of course we have a lot of trees here in Vancouver (need a permit to take one down if over 1 foot in diameter – not that that stops everyone, but it helps) and whenever I visit Seattle (150 miles south) I am surprised by how few trees there are in the city…perhaps there is a connection?
wolframalpha.com is a good place to visit if you want historical values calculated. I put in “Vancouver BC temperature june 1940 – 2015” and got this. No indication of any long term change in average June temperatures…
However I do notice that wolframalpha no longer calculates “record temperatures xxxcityxxx yyydateyyy” – it ignores the word ‘record’ or ignores ‘temperature’ and then gives you sports records. Seemed to me it used to calculate historical records more easily…but maybe you have to pay up to get more calculating power.
The media seemed disappointed that this June was only the 4th driest on record;1958 was a warmer June here.
A record of extreme weather in Canada Cold, Hot, Rain, Dry, Hurricanes, Tornadoes. Hottest temp ever recorded in Canada was on the Prairies. 1936 and 1937 extreme heat in the prairies reaching 45 C , people died or moved away.
http://www.ec.gc.ca/meteo-weather/default.asp?lang=En&n=6A4A3AC5-1
88F, a warmish winters day in Darwin.
Your links didn’t work for me. When I put your search into wolframalpha.com I got memory exceeded and a link to sign up for more capability.
However, I just happen to have the 1937 to 2013 Environment Canada data for Vancouver International Airport on my computer. It hasn’t warmed. But it has gotten “less cold”. Probably UHI.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pnci8bjeys0pqva/Vancouver%20Airport.tiff?dl=0
More runways too since 1937…roadways, airplanes…not too surprising it is a bit warmer. Check out the differences between Sea Island (where our airport is situated) from photos in 1950 and 2015
Benno implies Seattle climate should never change even up to the point some millions of years from now when the suns energy eliminates life on the planet. That is truly nuts, and how people think that is baffling.
But maybe he is only referring to human caused climate change. In that case I wish the more correct term “The Church of Human Caused Climate Change” is used since that more accurately defines the position.
Terms like “Stopping climate change” is completely nonsensical. It’s like having a slogan “Stop Fire” in order to stop fires due to negligence and crime. How such a stupid slogan has caught on should be a cornerstone of the monument of stupid.
Asinine indeed.
Just like ‘Limiting global warming to 2 degrees C’.
This is the goal at The Paris Climate Shindig
And “Zero Waste Day/Week/Month”. Biologically impossible.
Alright, call me a hater if you will — but I notice a correlation between the language and thinking processes used in your examples and the language and thinking processes used by those who ride bicycles.
Eugene WR Gallun
Ah, but bicycle riders breakdown into about three classes: 1) the “entitled elite,” who ignore the rules of the road, actually violate city speed limits, and get angry at both pedestrians and vehicles (one has the right of way, the other will always win), generally recognizable by the amount of spandex they exhibit,2) the group who lost their drivers licenses and ride bicycles in the same condition they drove (recognizeable by an inability to follow a straight course more than five feet), and 3) a small minority of money-saving, fitness-building, sane commuters, who are aware of traffic laws and don’t ride as if they alone own the road.
By and large I’m in agreement with you, but there sadly is a fourth group – the dead.
Also I cannot believe that anyone who rides a bike in a large city is sane, haven;t you noticed that bike and vehicle owners are mutually invisible to each other?
Steve T
surely there’s another group: the climate changers who think they’re saving the world by riding a bike?
The fifth group like to wear spandex and sit around in coffee shops with their legs spread wide.
I wonder. The number of record temperatures is at least as likely a function of the age and onset of the mix of sensors, as it is a function of weather. As an idealized example, a new sensor in a new place and that is not “homogenized” to an old one it replaced, potentially sets a record every day in its second year of life.
I wonder what the correlation covariance would show when plotted against number of records and sensor age. I would also guess that sensor onset against temperature might show a connection. Along the Washington and Oregon coast it would likely be tied to an El Nino year.
Because of those thoughts, I simply don’t pay attention to records, or to the statistically illiterate. Just sayin.
It is hard to find a decent understandable statistical explanation of how to determine that two variables (or more) of a series of observations may show a connection partially (or if you are lucky, wholly) explaining the observation trend.
This one might suffice.
http://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/18082/how-would-you-explain-the-difference-between-correlation-and-covariance
“… bring climate change to a half”?
I think we need to go further and… put an end to all bad stuff.
There, I reckon that makes me king of the castle of self-righteousness.
Excellent point. The hardiness brought on by hardship is a crucial part of survival. If all bad stuff were removed from our lives, the human race would vanish in short order. For those of the religious persuasion, could by why the Almighty allows the pain of suffering, leaving recovery up to chance and constitution.
Mark Twain’s — The Man That Corrupted Hadleyburg — has much to say about self-proclaimed virtue. My Grandmother gave me a copy of “Mark Twain’s Collected Short Stories” when I was ten and that story has always stuck with me.
One of the major memes of Progressives is — Doing good by doing good. That means — doing good for yourself by doing good for others. In other words making lots of money by implementing programs that supposedly are good for people. Start up a green energy company, get big government subsidies, get rich. Such is considered to be — doing good by doing good.
Progressives believe that all that they do is good so they are entitled to make money off it. Corruption is justified by the good it does.
As to what i have translated in the Old Testament, God made the world to be a place of “change”. Both the good and the bad promote change. Ideally that change moves mankind towards God. The phrase — The meek shall inherit the earth — indicates that the move is away from violence towards harmony. The flood comes about because mankind (except for Noah) was changing wrongly, moving towards more violence. So God started over.
The fall of Adam and Eve is a mis-translation. The word is actually a term for pre-mature birth. In the Garden with Jesus as their teacher they would have been told how to gain heaven before they left it to enter the real world — but unfortunately they got kicked out before they were ready to learn that. Ergo mankind lives in ignorance about how to attain heaven until Christ arrives on earth.
I think I will stop. I am starting to boor myself.
Eugene WR Gallun
Hey Mike! “I think we need to go further and… put an end to all bad stuff.”
Sounds like a great election slogan. “Vote for Smith and put an end to all bad stuff!”
Funny thing, strong rainstorms in CA, south of San Fran to LA and further south. Rainstorms in AZ. The blob of the “heat wave” seems to be from San Fran and above. http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Weather.aspx?location=USWA0395 Intellicast doesn’t have too bad an outlook for 10 days for Seattle. Fresno (CA) is taking it in the shorts for 10 days.. http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Weather.aspx?location=USCA0406 , but Phoenix has 4 days of rain for the next 10 and temperatures that are QUITE NORMAL for the 4th of July realm. http://www.intellicast.com/Local/Weather.aspx?location=USAZ0166 …It’s a big country. And WEATHER is WEATHER!
I recently gave up on intellicast.com. Depending on when you check the long range forecast during the day, it would give a different forecast (two forecasts per day hoping one was right). Their high temp and chance of rain were always way off from the other forecasters for the area, and usually wrong.
Believe it or not, the weater.gov has provided us with much more accurate daily forecasts.
Try weatherbell,com on saturdays for the long range outlook nationwide.
Screwed that up, here’s the link: http://www.weatherbell.com/
I use weatherbell for my long term forecast
I’ve been using a couple of other sources for dailies.
It rains/thunderstorms on a regular basis here in the summertime, so I have to keep up with regard to outdoor activities
California approves first statewide seawater desalination rules.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/07/us-usa-drought-desalination-idUSKBN0NR21J20150507
you say “prefers daily denigration from the comfort of anonymity even though she’s been known for quite some time.”
Is this a new meaning of anonymity?
Just what do you call anonymous? A quick search gives a post from 2014 where she admits her blog and her name. What more do you need; a DNA sample perhaps?!
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Climate change is personal by Miriam O’Brien
Miriam O’Brien lives at the foothills of the Great Dividing Range in north-eastern Victoria, Australia. She blogs at HotWhopper, having a shot at people who reject climate science.
[she posts daily at hotwhopper without identification -mod]
Whenever I see temperature records breaking 70, 80….100 years old by a degree or two, it makes me realize these high temps are nothing new. They are cyclical.
Oh yes, this is common dialog here in the San Francisco Bay Area for our local “progressives”. Most of the time you’ll find these people to be very sad and depressed individuals. It seems as though they have severe self esteem issues and project their unhappiness out onto the rest of the world.
Naturally, these unfortunates would adopt a belief that validates their depression, Gives it reason.
Marco Zacks emailed from somewhere northwest of Hackensack New Jersey. Oddly he used my domain. How’d he do that?
Spoofing an email address is one of the easiest things to do—all you need is an SMTP server.
You don’t even need that.
Many SMTP relays will accept any from address as long as you are e.g. within their legitimate catchment area of source IP addresses or have some valid login credentials.
Flamingjohnny2 claims to live near Seattle but is using an ISP in Spokane. Curious, but not impossible I guess.
I’m sure that progressive cities such as Seattle would never permit any possible Urban Heat Island effect to be present near the city.
when climate change is halted
could it please be early spring Northern Hemisphere?
that’s my favorite
or anything flip flop appropriate but not too hot
thank you
Its all weather. My 76yr old father lives in Central Texas. He tells me they’ve yet to break 100F this year. He has never seen it so cool in Texas summer.
Meridonal flow vs zonal patterns. Probably nothing nature hasn’t done many many times in the Holocene. Human records and memories are too short to not think we are always living in exceptional times. Lake Wobegone comes to mind.
I think that the heavy rains experienced in Texas and Oklahoma this Spring have kept temps cooler as the land dries. This is just a guess on my part.
“…you’re over here hopping around and farting…”
I think that requires a pause between hops but I’m not sure. A study is due. With graphs, of course.
“I think that requires a pause between hops but I’m not sure”
crop dusting is a well know phenomenon, not sure hopping would be advisable without plenty of practice?
…and grants! Don’t forget them! After all methane contributes to global weirding.
Perhaps we could model it…
Nobody in Washington state makes reference to kangaroo shit, or “hopping around”. I guarantee we have an Aussie here who is so concerned about anonymity that they won’t even reveal the global hemisphere in which they reside. I can understand why they wouldn’t want it known they live in Australia where they have recently been breaking LOW temperature records.
And while you know Anthony it’s been a scorcher here in Chico and Redding, I haven’t seen the week-long 110+ temperatures I remember from years back in quite a while.
ROFL, this article has me hopping around and farting!
Let’s be civil, and use HAAF.
This is a normal condition for people in my age bracket, at least the nonhopping part. Occasionally I resort to using a cane to assist in the hopping part not the other.
I think flamingjohnny2 needs to be read the way one would read Molly Bloom’s soliloquy. Viewed from that perspective, it’s rather interesting. For example the transition from the first sentence to a quote whose point of reference I find intriguingly ambiguous. Then a quick shift and a pause to look around the immediate locale, before veering off to “Pakastan”. (Where is that, by the way, is that a country?) Then another quote, whose context is more clearly demarcated than the earlier one, followed by some sage reflections, and so on.
I don’t know, maybe there’s even a talent of sorts on display here – or maybe just some pointers for a summer AI project.
It may have been a record “hot” day in Washington but I think if you take a look at historical data for Washington in July, you will find a lot of temperatures well over 100. I was born a few hundred metres north of the Washington State Border in Grand Forks, BC. That whole are of BC and Washington frequently get temperatures of over 100 degrees F. Grand Forks hit around 108 degrees in July of 1941, 104 in 2006 and 100 several times in between based on downloaded Environment Canada data (converted to F). The Washington desert to the south is almost always much warmer. Not surprising to get a hot pavement melting day in June for people who have lived in the area.
I see longstanding records broken at several airports in the list. maybe ones that haven’t messed about with their weather station sites?
Flaming Johnny, who claims to live near Seattle, doesn’t know what a Seattle is. For the benefit of the Flaming Johnnys out there, who have never been within 3000 miles of Seattle, let me explain the geography of Washington State. There’s a western temperate area, a mountain range running north and south, and an eastern desert. Seattle is in the western temperate area. The mountains include Rainier, at over 14,000 feet. The eastern desert is a completely different climate. The readings in excess of 100 are all in the east. No, Seattle never got to 100, nor anywhere else in the west.
Johnny really has a grasp on climates, doesn’t he?
You can see Flaming Johnny has mastered the Dem’s “Common Core Standards”. I note a bit of geographic acumen in use of kangaroo shit.
Marco Zacks, too seems to have a grasp of science and recycling.