Eric Worrall writes:
Reuters reports that the upcoming COP21 Paris climate conference, widely hyped by greens and politicians to be the conference which will achieve the great international climate breakthrough, is already in trouble – that the USA is one of the few countries which could be bothered to submit their climate action plan homework by the agreed deadline.
According to Reuters;
“… emitters such as China, India, Russia, Brazil, Canada and Australia say they are waiting until closer to a Paris summit in December, meant to agree a global deal.
“It’s not the ideal situation,” said Niklas Hoehne, founding partner of the New Climate Institute in Germany which tracks submissions, known as Intended Nationally Determined Contributions (INDCs).
In 2013, the United Nations invited INDCs by March 31, 2015, from governments “ready to do so” – the early, informal deadline was meant to give time to compare pledges and toughen weak ones.
Late submissions complicate the Paris summit because it will be far harder to judge late INDCs.
“The earlier the better,” said Jake Schmidt, of the U.S. National Resources Defense Council. “It allows people to look at each others’ targets and judge whether or not they pass muster.”
The White House official noted that both the United States and China already outlined plans last year, saying: “That adds up to a fantastic running start.”
http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/03/29/climatechange-emissions-idINKBN0MP0D020150329
The lack of enthusiasm by major CO2 emitters strongly suggests that the Paris meeting will simply be a dreary repeat of the pointless Lima circus – but then, we already knew that, didn’t we?
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“The earlier the better,” said Jake Schmidt, of the U.S. National Resources Defense Council. “It allows people to look at each others’ targets and judge whether or not they pass muster.”
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Resources_Defense_Council
The Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) is a New York City-based, non-profit international environmental advocacy group,
There are reports of the NRDC receiving funding from groups with ties with Russia’s state owned oil company.[10]
“Foreign Firm Funding U.S. Green Groups Tied to State-Owned Russian Oil Company”. The Washington Free Beacon. January 27, 2015.
http://freebeacon.com/issues/foreign-firm-funding-u-s-green-groups-tied-to-state-owned-russian-oil-company/
I think they should build palaces, exhibition halls, and monuments at all these venues. Like World’s Fairs, or the Olympic Games. Be sure not to invite any terrorists.
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aha – the security costs will be interesting to keep an eye on
Snow removal costs.
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Let ’em eat fungi, and chemical plant paste, and fish breeding litter, and shelled slugs. Let ’em drink rotted grapes.
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Don’t forget the delicious livers of tortured geese.
And the bubbles in the Champagne?
We know what that is.
“…the upcoming COP21 Paris climate conference, widely hyped by greens and politicians to be the conference which will achieve the great international climate breakthrough…”
“…widely hyped….to be the conference which will…”
Hmmmm…deliberately misleading word choice. STRAW MAN ALERT!! I’m sure many, if not a majority of greens (and Climate Scientists) ‘hope’ it will be “the conference which will achieve the great international climate breakthrough…”, but realistically are convinced that the agreement will be too little, too late.
@garymount March 30, 2015 at 2:20 am
I would like to know why it was cheaper for me to buy a round trip ticket from France to U.K. on the hovercraft than a one way ticket. Was the reasoning to fake the numbers of visitors?
This will be standard the whole world over.
It’s because a return ticker is bought by visitors. To increase the number of visitors to somewhere (particularly day visitors) you lower the price of the tickets they use.
Single tickets are bought by people doing business in places, or with other specialist needs. They have a specific need to go to that place, and they’re going to go, come what may. So you charge them as much as possible…
A capitalist market only charges the minimum necessary if there is perfect competition. For many goods – eg transport, which costs a lot to set up and so is hard for competitors to join, you effectively have a monopoly…
Here’s the thing though, me and my traveling buddy were going to buy a one way ticket but we were advised to purchase the round trip ticked as it would be cheaper. After some confusion and discussions about the fact we were not going to be coming back, we became convinced to purchase the round trip tickets because it was the cheapest option.
We then traveled to London after hitting the shores of the UK, spent the night in London then tracked down the home of a friends relative in a city just outside of London, whereupon we stayed the nights and commuted into London each morning to sight-see. After a week we said our good-byes, secretly left several hundred quid in an envelope for our hostess, flew from London back to Amsterdam then to Calgary and finally Vancouver the final destination. (My local bridge was recycled in the Final Destination 5 movie by-the-way).
The trip took place in 1988, early April.
This summit is perhaps the most utterly dangerous nonsense imaginable next to “Islam is a Religion of Peace”…… The World’s Western leaders are so entrenched in denial, that cannot seem to change course.
(Denial about real science that is). We are skeptics. We question, We think.
Their dogma sounds like George Orwell’s nightmares…….
When will the adults on this planet stand up and say “enough”!
Paris will be one of the last Climate Summits before the CAGW hysteria runs its course and is eye-rolled and laughed into oblivion…
It’s the last big bash all the Eco-wackos will stage so it might as well be in one of the world’s most beautiful cities– go out with bang.
Sayonara, CAGW. You’ve been a colossal pain in the bum.
No, Enviro-Hajj is far too fun to abandon.
It’ll just lower it’s sights to not try to commit to things anyone would bother fighting.
And so they keep the gravy-train oozing.
There will be more and more of these jollies trying to do less and less.
Go f@ck yourself would be my suggestion to the UN. Who the hell do they think they are?
if they could talk about Monsanto that would be a good idea and also about TAFTA
What’s wrong with Monsanto that requires the UN to get involved? Free trade agreement? I think not. That’s an ‘excluding others’ trade agreement. The US never wants a level playing field. They want to be ‘top dog’. The moment anyone else starts getting a fair shake , the US wants to change the rules.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/03/28/monsanto-sustainable-agriculture-company.aspx
as for TAFTA a petition of million of people and cities has been submitted to Brussels (but brussels it is enough too – we do not want to be ruled by brussels)
I would like to point out that the Canadian and Australian CO2 contributions are piffling. I would also like to wave the flag and say Yay! Go Canada! It’ll be a cold day in Australia before Canada signs up for this BS. Good to see Brazil on board.
Only if we have the good sense to keep Harper in power this Fall.
The Boy® would give away the farm in a second.
I would suggest that Tony Abbott sends an intern with ‘observer status’ with absolutely no authority to agree to anything. Nice slap in the face.
None of the countries will be late when it is time to fill their 1st class accommodations.
I got China’s plan if anyone want to see it , its rather short and says ‘we are going to do what we like , if you suckers want to drive more of your industries toward China , then please feel free to do so “
I would like to see the UN totally disbanded. I would prefer to deal with a tyrant rather than a bureaucrat.
It’s already written in the stars that there will be a last-minute historic deal at the end of the Paris conference, after a 24-hour extension of the proceedings.
The deal will be political and voluntary in nature, with no legal enforcement or penalty mechanism.
Nevertheless, its purpose will be achieved: to keep alive the AGW meme in the media and for the uninformed population, as well as provide a pretext for the multitude of eco-militants to continue applying pressure on politicians.
As long as political leaders continue to play the game, the IPCC and its media propagandists are not going away.
I agree – just the appareance of democracy
I am sorry to say that You are probably absolute correct !
right – they just want to show they care for the problem (?) – and the medias will talk about that conference and not about the real problems of the country
This whole thing reminds me of Mel Brooks and Woody Allen.
My memory may deceive me (although certainly not as much as my older sister does), but I seem to recall a Mel Brooks movie wherein one of the good guys from the old Wild West, when confronted by banditos, withdraws his revolver from its holster, points it at his head, and threatens them, “If you come any closer I’ll shoot myself.”
Again, my memory may deceive me (although certainly … ), but I seem to recall Woody Allen describing a fight he was involved in wherein he took his opponent down by slamming his jaw into the opponent’s fist, walloping his stomach into the opponent’s foot, and so on.
As we know, these days there are several unspeakably vicious organizations that are intent on returning society to a blissful time about 700 years in the past. For some reason fat and happy representatives of the soon to be former Enlightenment West seem to think we’ll win this fight by getting back to this Middle Ages Eden first.
Heh, the last six years of American foreign policy in two movie clips. Good movies, too.
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“…a dreary repeat of the pointless Lima circus…”
Yeah, we better keep Greenpeace away from the Mona Lisa and other national treasures.
http://io9.com/drone-footage-shows-extent-of-greenpeaces-damage-to-per-1671729403
There is no need to promise to reduce anthropogenic CO2 emissions. Reducing anthropogenic CO2 emissions will have no effect on climate ‘change’. Detailed observations and detailed analysis supported the assertion that 100% of the IPCC proclamations were incorrect, however, the CAGW cult propaganda machine was able to roll on as the scientific implications of a plateau of no warming for 18 years and the other analyses results can be and were ignored.
Observations are about to take the climate wars and climate/planetary changes to a new level of crazy. Atmospheric CO2 levels have started to fall. The weird plateau of no warming is over. The planet has started to cool. More than 70% (80 ppm) of the recent rise in atmospheric CO2 was due to natural sources or conversely less than 30% (35 ppm) of the recent rise in atmospheric CO2 was due to anthropogenic emissions. The rise in atmospheric CO2 levels correlates with the integral of the global temperature anomaly, with a 10 month lag, it does not correlate with anthropogenic CO2 emissions.
The implications of Salby’s and Humlum’s analysis were ignored. (Interesting re-read.)
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/11/22/excerpts-from-salbys-slide-show/
Secondly, detailed analysis does not support the assertion that the majority of the 1C temperature rise in the last 150 years was due to anthropogenic CO2 emission. Roughly 70% (0.7C) of the recent rise in planetary temperature was due to solar changes.
Now as the solar cycle has been interrupted (more complicated and interesting from a physics standpoint than a simple interruption to the solar magnetic cycle) the sun will be anomalously spotless (most days) by the end of this year and as the solar mechanism that was causing an anomalously reduction in wind speed over the oceans is starting to abate, wind speeds over the oceans will be anomalously high which along with changes in cloud extent, cloud type, cloud properties, and cloud lifetimes (initial observed cooling is due to changes in clouds) will cause the planet to cool.
If the assertion that the majority of the warming in the last 150 years was due to solar changes rather than the increase in anthropogenic CO2 emissions is correct, the warming in the last 150 years is reversal able (i.e. The planet can and will cool.) Observation evidence to support the start of global cooling is: 1) Record sea ice in the Antarctic all months of the year starting in 2012, 2) Rapid recover of sea ice extent and multiyear sea ice in the Arctic, starting also in 2012 3) Temperatures on the Greenland ice sheet have dropped and there is now increasing mass on the Greenland ice sheet due to increased snowfall, starting in 2014 (Physical observed changes require physical causes).
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921818112001658
Of course there will be the usual abundance of alcohol and women for hire at this barely-disguised excuse for a PAR-TAY. I notice there are no sing-alongs on the agenda. I’m guessing they heard that an excess of wine, women, and song results in an early death so they cut out the singing.
Representative Barbara Lee (D-CA) recently predicted that global warming, err climate change, would force many women into prostitution to survive. I guess this conference will demonstrate that claim:)
Before anybody says tomato or tomahto, let’s call the whole thing off!
Does anyone know what has happened to the person who was going to kayak from Australia to Paris for the conference? A good demonstration of “useful idiot” as there were some significant non-green travel involved. Namely transporting the kayak and the “idiot” by plane on some major legs.
He is still in Mississippi near Vicksburg and has abandoned plans to go to Canada, and is planning to go to New York instead.
Mississippi Blues
Well haven’t there been some changes since my last blog.
The route has changed, I am turning right somewhere and going to New York. Canada will be a side trip if I have time.
The way of operating has changed so daily updates will become updates when I can. I will do stretches of the river and then come back for the crew.
http://kayak4earth.com/category/diary/
An impressive effort non-the-less.
Even the warmistas don’t believe their over-hyped global warming predictions anymore. This is evidenced by the fact that they have rolled back the ‘doomsday temperature increase’ from 2C to 1.5C.
It’s funny how climate gets combined with politics, but it happens allover the world. Every time I see a politician talking about the climate, I become a bit skeptic: what does he want? is he really interested in the climate? Usually, they have a hidden agenda, which is, often, more important than their public one. They are looking for ways to suggest more taxes, but do taxes solve our warming problem? More than that, too many people are saying things about climate without having a clue of what climate is.
I think the point of the conference is to say the world leaders are collaborating in addressing serious world problems. You know the same way they address, genocide, aids, and famine in Africa, and endless war and strife in the Middle east.
In other words a bunch of big stomachs and empty heads patting themselves on the back and then going home and using this meaningless but very expensive, high CO2 foorprint conference to help get re-elected.
what Reuters & the rest of our MSM isn’t reporting, & Google is pretty much hiding behind its algore-ithms, is this Paris-killing story. here’s hoping India & the developing countries stand firm. our promises to provide $100 billion annually plus free transfer of technology was a false promise, just as CAGW was based on a false hypothesis:
30 March: Economic Times India: Urmi Goswami: India calls for a deal for
pre-2020 efforts to tackle climate change
India wants a global agreement that will address intensified efforts to tackle climate change between 2015 and 2020 and has questioned the single-minded focus on finalising a global compact for the post-2020 period, which is to be inked in Paris in December…
At the talks held in Geneva in February, Indian negotiators had raised the issue that countries, especially the industrialised nations, need to do much more to address rising emissions and the impact of unchecked climate change between 2015 and 2020.
***”We have given it in writing to the chairmen of the ad-hoc working group on the Durban Platform. In 2011, when countries decided to craft anew agreement to address climate change, it was also decided to accelerate efforts to tackle global warming in the period up to 2020. But now the discussions are solely focused on the post-2020 agreement…a senior member of the government said…
***In the pre-2020 period, the onus of reducing the amount of carbon produced is on the industrialised countries, with developing countries taking steps on a voluntary basis. Industrialised countries are required to provide financial support, which was agreed in 2009 and 2010 to be to the tune of $100 billion a year, and were also committed to provide technology to developing countries to address climate change.
**India’s demand has the broad support of developing countries. At Geneva, where negotiators from 193 countries met for a week to finalise a draft of the post-2020 global compact, representatives of countries including China, South Africa and other African countries and small islands consistently stressed on the need to focus on increasing the efforts being made to tackle climate change before 2020.
Developing countries have argued that the lack of attention to the pre-2020 efforts only serve to transfer the burden of action to poor countries…
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/india-calls-for-a-deal-for-pre-2020-efforts-to-tackle-climate-change/articleshow/46740791.cms
The Australian government is currently looking for comment:
https://www.dpmc.gov.au/taskforces/unfccc
In the “Issues Paper”, they use an expression I haven’t seen before – “carbon leakage”.
Anyone seen this anywhere else? At first glance I thought it might be a euphemism for BS. The next recollection was those occasions when, however well you tried to tie the nappy [diaper] it wasn’t successful. Either way, it’s appropriate for the context.
Carbon leakage is when a company moves overseas and you get to claim less emissions because of it, but the products they make are brought back to your shores to be sold.