Strange Allies in the War on Carbon Fuels

MCourtney “So, why do you think this voluntary agenda is being pursued?”
Because our local goverment says that it is using Agenda 21 as a rationale to increase its control over me, confiscate my property, and sterilise my land from productive use, ie farming (land was used and zoned as farming) to Agenda 21 purposes (environmental zoning).
“It isn’t a real thing. And the desperate straits that may make someone try to realise it? They don’t exist.”
Uuuummm, so you are saying my life didnt exist? That what happened to me didnt happen? That what is written in the local council records didnt happen either? That I really am better off financially because when I did sell my land I got more money for it and it didnt take me as long to sell as it did and I didnt have to sell my land in the first place to buy differently zoned land elsewhere to continue farming?
Like I said, I knew about Agenda 21 long before I knew about Global Warming.

Thanks, Viv Forbes. Good article.

I guess you have to be a socialist to still buy; “We are from the govt, here to help you.”
Good post Viv Forbes.
When I first saw Al Gore’s movie and started digging into CAGW, I dismissed statements such as this lead post.
Conspiracy rubbish.
However the deeper I dug and the more I pursued “THE SCIENCE” which my government spoke of at great length, but did not document and could not produce at written request, the more the institutions seemed complicit in brutal spin, deliberate non truths.
Then came Climate Gate, pretty pathetic people these IPCC experts in their own words, but that was nothing compared to the studied disinterest and appallingly inept “investigations” that followed.
Bureaucracy is a cancer on the fabric of civilization, unchecked it grinds productive activity to a halt.
Elected persons are supposed to ensure bureaucrats are kept under control.
How do we control the UN?
My government “defers” to the findings of the UN IPCC.
This is the stock bureaucratic answer to very important questions.
Zero accountability.
So who signed off on the findings of the UN IPCC as good enough for government policy?
So when activities are coordinated for a cause, but claimed to be necessary due to coming disaster and the remedy sought is to impoverish and diminish citizens. And they widely acknowledge the great plan..
is it still a conspiracy?
I see CAGW/CC or whatever you want to call the meme of the magic gas as an orchestrated attempt to steal from the productive to reward the parasites.
This nonsense was created by, promoted by and is still being protected by our bureaucrats working in collusion through the United Nations.
For this is the dream of bureaus chiefs, absolute power with zero consequence.
Is it not the parasites dream to have the host cater to their demands?
Hence the campaign for UN agents to be held immune from criminal prosecution by any national government.

Communism is patient… this is known. Communism is no different, except in perhaps detail of implementation, than any other form of collectivism. Agenda 21 is about collectivism. Communists saw the destruction of their personal pet projects in the latter half of the 20th century and had to endure the declaration that “Socialism is dead,” proclaimed by many former supporters of the socio-economic system. It failed, as every collectivist system has always done. But they are patient. They do not mind waiting, slowly infiltrating every means of control (list a professional society, or any other organization, nearly all corrupted by collectivist goals). They are activists, but not so open as to expose their individual motives (even though their grand plan is spelled out in the open via Agenda 21). They rise to the top, control every form of communication possible. They slowly overtake a willing population that sees the “evil” of capitalism (the same population that fails to recall that the only system that ever actually worked was capitalism, and their lives were actually better off before the myriad controls were put in place). Gruber was also right, the population is stupid, on average, and they fall for the promise of the greener grass on the other side. Unfortunately, under any collectivist system, there is no greener grass, the only “change” is that every other person is equally destitute, barring the elite few that control everything.
If we do not wake up, if smart people like MCourtney do not shed their programming, the future is not so bright, rather, it is bleak, and we have no one to blame but ourselves.
Mark

Whenever you guys start ranting about “unelected global governments” and such, you sound as crazy as those that pop up around here every so often complaining about Mexicans, gun control, etc.
Just saying.

I’d like to point out that from the voluntary agenda 21 we are at the stage of expecting “binding agreements” on climate change in Paris later this year. I suspect that it has taken 20-odd years to make this much progress is a cause of some disappointment to the proponents of agenda 21.
How long before we see “binding agreements” on resource usage, population and redistribution?
Who is going to enforce the binding agreements on national governments when they change their minds when the going gets tough?
I can’t see any situation where another layer of governance over the top of national governments could possibly be a good thing. And that includes the EU.
Malthus has a lot to answer for.