Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
In investigations of the past history of cosmic rays, the deposition rates (flux rates) of the beryllium isotope 10Be are often used as a proxy for the amount of cosmic rays. This is because 10Be is produced, inter alia, by cosmic rays in the atmosphere. Being a congenitally inquisitive type of fellow, I thought I’d look to see just how good a proxy 10Be might be for solar activity. Now most folks would likely do a search of the literature first, to find out what is currently known about the subject.
I don’t like doing that. Oh, the literature search is important, don’t get me wrong … but I postpone it as long as I possibly can. You see, I don’t want to be mesmerized by what is claimed to be already known. I want to look whatever it is with a fresh eye, what the Buddhists call “Beginner’s Mind”, unencumbered by decades of claims and counter-claims. In short, what I do when faced with a new field is to go find some data and analyze it. After I’ve found out what I can from the dataset, and only then, do I search the literature to find out what other folks might believe. Yes, it costs me sometimes … but usually it allows me to find things that other folks have overlooked.
In this case, I found a gem of a dataset. Here is the author’s summary:
Annually-resolved polar ice core 10Be records spanning the Neutron Monitor era
Abstract: Annually-resolved 10Be concentrations, stable water isotope ratios and accumulation rate data from the DSS site on Law Dome, East Antarctica (spanning 1936-2009) and the Das2 site, south-east Greenland (1936-2002).
The only thing better than data is recent data, because it is more likely to be accurate, and here we have seven decades of recent 10Be deposition rates (fluxes). So, without fanfare, here’s the data in question
Figure 1. 10Be flux rates from Law Dome in Antarctica and from Southeast Greenland. Bottom panel shows the annual average sunspot count.
So … what’s not to like about these records? Well … lots of things.
The first unlikable item is that the correlation between these two 10Be datasets is pathetic, only 0.07. Seems to me like this would be enough in itself to put the whole 10Be—cosmic rays connection into doubt. I mean, if the two best recent dataset don’t agree with each other, then what are we supposed to believe?
The next problem is even larger. It is the lack of any clear 11-year signal from the variations in cosmic rays. It is well-known that cosmic rays are deflected from the solar system by the magnetic field of the sun, which varies in general sync with the sunspots. As a result, the numbers of cosmic rays, and presumably the 10Be flux rates, vary in an 11-year cycle inversely to the sunspot cycle. Here’s what the relationship looks like:
Figure 2. Sunspots and cosmic rays (as indicated by the neutron count). SOURCE
So the relation between cosmic rays and sunspots is quite solid, as you can see above. However, the problem with the 10Be records in this regard is … they have no power in the 11-year cycle range. Sunspot data has power in that range, as does the neutron count data representing cosmic rays … but the 10Be data shows nothing in that range. Here’s the periodicity analysis (see here et seq. for details of periodicity analyses):
Figure 3. Periodicity analysis of the two datasets shown in Figure 1, 10Be flux from Greenland and Antarctica
As you can see, we have no power in either the 11-year or 22-year bands … and if you look at Figure 1, you can see that their correlation with the sunspots is … well … pathetic. The correlation between Greenland 10Be and sunspots is -0.10, and between Antarctica 10Be and sunspots is even worse, -0.03 … like I said, pathetic. A cross-correlation analysis shows slightly greater correlations with a 2 year lag, but not much. However, the lack of the 11-year peaks periodicity analysis (or visible 11-year peaks in the 10Be data) suggests that the lag is spurious.
The problem is, both the sunspots and the cosmic ray counts have a huge peak in periodicity at 10-11 years … but the 10Be records show nothing of the sort.
So, at this point I’m in as much mystery as when I started. We have two beryllium-10 records. They don’t agree with each other. And according to both periodicity and correlation analysis, they don’t show any sign of being connected to anything related to the sunspots, whether by way of cosmic rays, TSI, or anything else …
Now that I’ve finished the analysis, I find that the notes to the dataset say:
Cosmogenic 10Be in polar ice cores is a primary proxy for past solar activity. However, interpretation of the 10Be record is hindered by limited understanding of the physical processes governing its atmospheric transport and deposition to the ice sheets. This issue is addressed by evaluating two accurately dated, annually resolved ice core 10Be records against modern solar activity observations and instrumental and reanalysis climate data. The cores are sampled from the DSS site on Law Dome, East Antarctica (spanning 1936–2009) and the Das2 site, south-east Greenland (1936–2002), permitting inter-hemispheric comparisons.
Concentrations at both DSS and Das2 are significantly correlated to the 11-yr solar cycle modulation of cosmic ray intensity, r = 0.54 with 95% CI [0.31; 0.70], and r = 0.45 with 95% CI [0.22; 0.62], respectively. For both sites, if fluxes are used instead of concentrations then correlations with solar activity decrease.
If you use flux rates the “Correlations with solar activity decrease”??? Yeah, they do … they decrease to insignificance. And this is a big problem. It’s a good thing I didn’t read the notes first …
Now, my understanding is that using 10Be concentrations in ice cores doesn’t give valid results. This is because the 10Be is coming down from the sky … but so is the snow. As a result, the concentration is a factor of both the 10Be flux and the snow accumulation rate. So if we want to understand the production and subsequent deposition rate of 10Be, it is necessary to correct the 10Be concentrations by using the corresponding snow accumulation rate to give us the actual flux rate. So 10Be flux rates should show a better correlation with sunspots than concentrations, because they’re free of the confounding variable of snow accumulation rate.
As a result, I’ve used the flux rates and not the concentrations … and found nothing of interest. No correlation between the datasets, no 11-year periodicity, no relationship to the solar cycle.
What am I missing here? What am I doing wrong? How can they use the concentration of 10Be rather than the flux? Are we getting accurate results from the ice cores? If not, why not?
These questions and more … please note that I make no overarching claims about the utility of 10Be as a proxy for sunspots or cosmic rays. I’m just saying that this particular 10Be data would make a p-poor proxy for anything … and once again I’m raising what to me is an important question:
If the 10Be deposition rate is claimed to be a proxy for the long-term small changes in overall levels of cosmic rays … why is there no sign in these datasets of it responding to the much larger 11-year change in cosmic rays?
I have the same question about cosmic rays and temperature. There is no sign of an 11-year cycle in the temperature, meaning any influence of cosmic rays is tiny enough to be lost in the noise. So since temperature doesn’t respond to large 11-year fluctuations in cosmic rays, why would we expect temperature to track much smaller long-term changes in the cosmic ray levels?
Always more questions than answers, may it ever be so.
My regards to everyone, guest authors, commenters, and lurkers … and of course, Anthony and the tireless mods, without whom this whole circus wouldn’t work at all.
w.
COMMENTS: Please quote the exact words that you are referring to in your comment. I’m tired of trying to guess what folks are talking about. Quote’m or you won’t get traction from me. Even if the reference is blatantly obvious to you, it may not be to others. So please, quote the exact words.
DATA: 10Be original data, Excel spreadsheet
CODE: Just for fun, I’ll put it here to show how tough this particular analysis was:
source("~/periodicity functions.R")
par(mgp=c(2,1,0),cex.axis=1)
spotsraw=ts(read.csv("monthly ssn.csv")[,2],start=c(1749,1),frequency=12)
Annual.Sunspots=window(aggregate(spotsraw,frequency=1,FUN=mean),start=1937,end=2009)
plot(Annual.Sunspots)
theflux=ts(read.csv("Polar 10Be Flux.csv")[,2:3],start=1937,frequency=1)
theoxy=ts(read.csv("Polar 10Be Flux.csv")[,4:5],start=1937,frequency=1)
plot(cbind(theflux,theoxy))
fulldata=cbind(theflux[,1],theflux[,2],Annual.Sunspots)
colnames(fulldata) = c("Greenland 10Be Flux","Antarctica 10Be Flux","Sunspots")
plot(fulldata,main="",yax.flip=TRUE)
title(main="10Be Flux Rates in Greenland and Antarctica\n(atoms / square metre / second)",
line=1,cex.main=1.1)
cor(ts.intersect(fulldata),use="pairwise.complete.obs")
periodsd(theflux[,1],doplot=TRUE,timeinterval=1,add=FALSE,col="blue3",
maintitle="Periodicity Analysis, Ice Core 10Be Flux\nGreenland (blue) and Antarctica (red)")
periodsd(theflux[,2],doplot=TRUE,timeinterval=1,add=TRUE,col="green3")
You’ll need the code for the periodicity functions, it’s here.
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This site provides a direct measurement of GCR.
http://cosmicrays.oulu.fi/webform/query.cgi?startday=13&startmonth=03&startyear=1968&starttime=00%3A00&endday=04&endmonth=04&endyear=2014&endtime=23%3A30&resolution=Automatic+choice&picture=on
Note, there are multiple mechanisms by which the solar magnetic cycle changes modulate planetary cloud cover. Solar wind bursts create a space charge differential in the ionosphere which removes cloud forming ions by the process that is called electroscavenging.
If there are low latitude coronal holes late in the solar cycle, the coronal holes create solar wind bursts that remove cloud forming ions thereby making it appear that high GCR does not affect planetary cloud cover.
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsait.oat.ts.astro.it%2FMSAIt760405%2FPDF%2F2005MmSAI..76..969G.pdf&ei=bVRLU6qUDJD82gXlyYGQDw&usg=AFQjCNE1HIIaQdO213fgDBS9nT2fvY3-Rg&bvm=bv.64542518,d.b2I
Once again about global warming and solar activity
The geomagnetic activity reflects the impact of solar activity originating from both closed and open magnetic field regions, so it is a better indicator of solar activity than the sunspot number which is related to only closed magnetic field regions. It has been noted that in the last century the correlation between sunspot number and geomagnetic activity has been steadily decreasing from – 0.76 in the period 1868- 1890, to 0.35 in the period 1960-1982, while the lag has increased from 0 to 3 years (Vieira et al. 2001). According to Echer et al. (2004), the probable cause seems to be related to the double peak structure of geomagnetic activity.
The second peak, related to high speed solar wind from coronal holes, seems to have increased relative to the first one, related to sunspots (CMEs) but, as already mentioned, this type of solar activity is not accounted for by the sunspot number. In Figure 6 the long-term variations in global temperature are compared to the long-term variations in geomagnetic activity as expressed by the ak-index (Nevanlinna and Kataja 2003). The correlation between the two quantities is 0.85 with p<0.01 for the whole period studied. It could therefore be concluded that both the decreasing correlation between sunspot number and geomagnetic activity, and the deviation of the global temperature long-term trend from solar activity
as expressed by sunspot index are due to the increased number of high-speed streams of solar wind on the declining phase and in the minimum of sunspot cycle in the last decades.
Fig. 6. Global temperature anomalies T (solid line) and ak index of geomagnetic activity (broken line) for the period 1856-2000; climatic normals.
William Astley says:
April 13, 2014 at 8:26 pm
This site provides a direct measurement of GCR.
So do about a hundred other stations, here are some http://www.leif.org/research/Neutron-Monitors-Real-Time.htm
The bottom plot shows the long-term change.
Current data and information are clear.
http://www.intechopen.com/books/current-topics-in-ionizing-radiation-research/atmospheric-ionizing-radiation-from-galactic-and-solar-cosmic-rays
Willis, in regards to:
“So since temperature doesn’t respond to large 11-year fluctuations in cosmic rays, why would we expect temperature to track much smaller long-term changes in the cosmic ray levels?”
I have a lot to ask you about that, but first let me clear up “smaller long-term changes in the cosmic ray levels”. Can you present a graph of “cosmic ray levels” on geologic time, along with your confidence in it?
Leif said:
“Almost all of it comes from middle latitudes and is brought up to the poles by atmospheric circulation, hence depends on the climate itself [sort of circular logic involved]”.
That brings us back to my proposition that solar variations affect jet stream tracks and that the changes over a single solar cycle are swamped by ocean cycles and short term chaotic variability.
Top down solar effects on global air circulation are heavily modulated by bottom up oceanic effects with the global climate zone distribution being dependent on the net interaction between the two at any given time.
@ur momisugly Willis April 13, 2014 at 6:51 pm
“My readership is the scientifically minded layman as well as the professional scientist, and I aim to write accordingly. And yes, the scientific writing style does not foster communication …”
After reading above, I’m reminded that when reading your pieces I always think of my explorations with Scientific American Magazine in decades past.
Thank you.
What causes the temperature jumps in the zone ozone in the midst of the polar night? Certainly not the UV. It remains to ionizing radiation.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/temperature/10mb9065.gif
“””””…..dbstealey says:
April 13, 2014 at 8:04 pm
markx says it for me, too:…..”””””
Actually E = mc^2 ; not MC^2
But then you knew that already. Caps lock is above left shift.
It is worth a look even higher on the borders of ozone.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/temperature/01mb9065.gif
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/strat-trop/gif_files/time_pres_TEMP_ANOM_ALL_NH_2014.gif
Willis Eschenbach says:
April 13, 2014 at 7:20 pm
You’ve linked to the Holgate sunspot nonsense, which I falsified in my post “Sunspots and Sea Level“.
That post is an example of misleading misinterpretation of correlation calculations. The correlation example section of my http://tinyurl.com/nbnh7hq link highlights how and why one wouldn’t expect a chain of a sunspot proxy -> actual solar magnetic activity -> influence on cosmic ray flux -> influence on cloud cover -> influence on terrestrial temperature -> influence on estimated sea level history to be a correlation chain with a r^2 of 1, despite the major relationship as seen in the link.
For example, with plots seen there:
“Real world data is messy even for a well-known major relationship between sunspots and cosmic ray flux (CRF) reaching Earth.
For the 5 year plot above, linear correlation is low, with r^2 being closer to 0 than 1, specifically 0.113 (despite CRF data being pressure corrected
by the source for air mass shielding overhead fluctuating). Does such prove that CRF has no relationship with sunspots? No.”
However, while I go on to discuss that further, also adding other illustrations (including over the whole 50 year period of a neutron monitor’s data), it would be redundant to further requote here what is within the link already.
Meanwhile, a Shaviv 2008 paper, as quoted and linked in the preceding, discusses such at a higher and less biased level, in fact finding “the high Neff = 67 gives rise to a 99.99% confidence that random realizations with similar autocorrelation functions as the actual signals can not give such a high coefficient r” for sea level history versus a reconstruction of solar activity. Shaviv 2008: http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.173.2162&rep=rep1&type=pdf
If you want to disagree with Dr. Shaviv while claiming the correlation would be likely to arise by chance without a relationship, try to prove it properly: Write a program creating random output and see how many iterations it takes to make anything with as much similarity.
Jeff in Calgary says:
April 13, 2014 at 7:05 pm
“I was thinking that the transport issue could severely “smudge” the archival delay, to the extent that even the 11 year cycle could be invisible, but it could still be OK for longer term measurements, like long solar minimums. However, the close correlation with 14C, kind of debunks that, making 10Be hopeless as a proxy for cosmic rays”
Your latter sentence is just backwards logic. No correlation with C-14 is what would debunk that, not high correlation with Carbon 14.
The relationship over the centuries between Be-10 and C-14 (and Ti-44 from space meteorites originally beyond earth weather) is exactly what supports Kirkby’s statement of:
“The good agreement found between the 10Be and 14C records confirms that their variations [primarily] reflect real changes of the cosmic ray flux and [primarily] not climatic influences on the transport processes into their respective archives [56].”
A problem with pretending variation in them is just from terrestrial weather processes is that they aren’t all subject to the same ones, like the chemistry affecting a beryllium atom is much different from one affecting a carbon atom (let alone a titanium atom in deep space). What Be-10, C-14, and Ti-44 isotopes share is nuclear formation under cosmic ray bombardment.
[That statement suggests] “that they must indeed be a proxy for something, but the question is…What? Willis’ Figure 3 clearly demonstrates that it is highly unlikely to be for cosmic rays.
A proxy does not have to be 100% perfect. Sunspots aren’t either, though just throwing hands up in the air and saying one knew nothing about past solar activity wouldn’t be remotely true.
You could take just about any pair of proxy data sets used in climatology for almost anything and not get an exact match, in that kind of periodicity analysis. For instance, you could, by similar logic, “prove” lack of correlation between average NH temperature over the past several centuries (from one reconstruction) versus the same (from another reconstruction). Two different reconstructions of even the same quantity commonly differ, like not all reconstructions of historical NH average temperature are the same, as among the examples in http://tinyurl.com/nbnh7hq .
Greenland and Antarctica are not even at the same location in Earth’s geomagnetic field, which is among other influences on cosmic ray flux.
Anyway, regarding Eschenbach’s figure 3, whenever extra processing is applied to raw data, there are two options to interpret it with any decent accuracy:
Option 1, the hard way:
Begin with the missing first step: Before using any methodology, check the methodology itself and the interpretation of it. Does such have no implausible results if applied elsewhere? Or is that kind of periodicity analysis, if expecting an exact match, a lot like a computer program which could take in practically any pair of proxies for anything in real-world climate data and spit out a “mismatch” result? In a separate but semi-analogous example, there is an illustration in my prior link of what nonsense conclusions can be generated by misapplying processing to superficially check for correlation. Another step would be to check all of the code going into generating that figure.
Option 2, the easy way:
Look at the raw original data directly without all the extra steps of processing, so less has to be verified. For example, the plots in my link are in most cases raw data with fancy processing neither needed nor desirable.
Jeff in Calgary says:
April 13, 2014 at 6:41 pm
here is what I know about filtering noisy signals (from professional experience).
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very much like tree ring “calibration”. filter the data based on the result you are looking for, and you will create a phony signal (spurious correlation) where no correlation exists.
Filtering is a bad idea if you intend to apply statistics after the filter, because the unfiltered data is telling you that statistically the raw data is NFG. After you apply the filter your data is no better, but now your statistics will rate the correlation much higher.
So, it is not only medicine, tree rings, and social sciences that suffer from faulty statistical methods. Now solar sciences are getting into the act.
for example local and regional climatic effects, which could be of the same magnitude as the 10Be production changes.”
Just a WAG but I would bet that vertical lighting, if it can create gamma rays (confirmed by multiple studies, including data from BATSE), then it can make Be-10….
Konrad says:
April 13, 2014 at 7:14 pm
Are there any mid-latitude 10Be records that show an 11 year cycle?
While Greenland latitude, there is figure 6 in this paper, on page 6 of its PDF:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/0804.1938v1.pdf
denniswingo says:
April 13, 2014 at 10:12 pm
Just a WAG but I would bet that vertical lighting
Not really needed, cosmic rays can do the job, and 10Be can also be found in the surface layers of rocks: http://www.geosociety.org/gsatoday/archive/21/8/article/i1052-5173-21-8-4.htm
Thanks for sharing your slide show, Doctor Svalgaard. WRT “Wonder why they are ahead of children here?”. Was your presentation in English or in Japanese? What kinds of questions did the children ask?
Bill Parsons says:
April 13, 2014 at 10:35 pm
Was your presentation in English or in Japanese?
http://www.leif.org/research/On-Becoming-a-Scientist-JPN.pdf
What kinds of questions did the children ask?
Mostly about the bad effects of solar eruptions. Can we predict those? How to cope?
Current data on ionization.
http://oi61.tinypic.com/noyoop.jpg
https://www.spenvis.oma.be/download/suw2013/presentations/session_2_Mrigakshi.pdf
Svensmark and Shaviv both emphasise the secondary cosmic ray known as the muon.
There is a muon observatory at Antarctica, The Mawson Cosmic Ray Observatory. It may be possible to gain access to their counting database. It could be interesting.
Svensmark also makes the observation that there is a time delay for CRs entering the heliosphere and reaching Earth orbit of about 18 months. The implication being a noticable time lag in effects.
Henry Clark says:
April 13, 2014 at 10:05 pm
That statement is an example of an opinion unsupported by facts, logic, math, or evidence of any kind. Massive fail. If you want to find fault with the logic, math, or data in my post, you’ll have to bring more than your mouth.
Say what? Go back to the top of the page. Look at Figure 2. That is hardly “messy”, it is a very clear and well defined inverse relationship between sunspots and cosmic rays. In addition, it shows up very clearly in the periodicity data. The sunspots contain lots of energy in the 10-11-year range. The neutron counts, unsurprisingly, contain lots of energy in the same 10-11-year range.
On the other hand, the 10Be data contains only random energy in the 10-11 year range.
That’s not messy. That’s a clear ~ 11-year cycle in the sunspots, and a corresponding 11-year cycle in cosmic rays … accompanied by no ~11-year cycle in the 10Be data at all.
You can wave your hands and claim oh, it’s all far too messy, but that is a clear, bright-line distinction between related phenomena, and unrelated phenomena.
w.
sophocles says:
April 13, 2014 at 10:51 pm
Svensmark also makes the observation that there is a time delay for CRs entering the heliosphere and reaching Earth orbit of about 18 months. The implication being a noticable time lag in effects.
No, the effect should happen when the cosmic ray hits the Earth, no matter how long time ago it entered the heliosphere 100 AU away.
This issue is discussed thoroughly in Do Be-10 and C-14 give us the information about cosmic rays in the past?
Specifically, the authors point to a lengthy, atmospheric deposition process.
Reminder to readers: What is deliberately not quoted (snipped) is often most illustrative of all.
Graeme W says:
April 13, 2014 at 7:24 pm
Not many tropical ice caps or glaciers. But the bigger problem is that the serial non-archiving couple, Lonnie Thompson and Ellen Mosley-Thompson have been paid big money to drill the tropical ice cores … but they haven’t archived the majority of the results, and then only very grudgingly. They deserve the opprobrium of the scientific community for taking taxpayer money and using it to their personal advantage. It is despicable … but of course, nobody in the activist scientific camp is willing to say the slightest bad thing about any other activist. They view that as treason and betrayal, look what’s happened to Judith Curry for doing much less.
So that’s the sad answer, Graeme. A couple of sleazy “scientific” PhD-toting con artists took the taxpayer’s money, went on their mountain adventure, and then hid away and pocketed the results.
Anyhow, in their honor, I propose that we use their name as a verb, so that if you say you’re going to thompson your results, it means you’ll get the grant and then never let the data see the light of day. That would be justice …
w.
bushbunny says:
April 13, 2014 at 7:53 pm
bushbunny, I haven’t a clue what you mean by your claim that I “stipulate whom should respond”. Was there some part of the following that escaped your notice?
w.
PS—Yes, we know that cosmic rays are deflected by heliomagnetism. I stated it in the head post. Why are you repeating what I already said?