A look at who has and who hasn’t gotten that kiss of death in climate communications
One of the more common woes mentioned by climate activists that suffer from bafflement over the tenacity of climate skepticism goes something like this: “if we could just communicate the urgency of climate change, everything would be better”. They think it’s just a matter of tweaking the message, rather than the message itself.
The other day, I wrote an article Another eco-journalist leaves Grist and noted the high bounce rate of the grist.org website, referencing a Mashable article that is the source of the phrase that is the headline. An article on Google Analytics says that:
If you could only choose one metric to look at, Bounce Rate might be your best choice.
I noted with interest the almost 2 to 1 disparity between the bounce rate at Grist and WUWT, and thought it worth exploring to see how bounce rate stacks up elsewhere in the climate blogo-media-sphere, thanks to a little inspiration from Josh. Some sites, like the Center for American Progress Climate Progress are served behind larger websites, so measuring their bounce rate isn’t possible. Below, in no particular order, is a table that lists many well known and some not so well known climate related websites and their bounce rate. The results are telling:
| Site | Proprietor | Type | Bounce Rate | Rank* |
| wattsupwiththat.com | Watts | skeptic | 40.90% | 9,345 |
| grist.org | varied | alarmist | 72.20% | 16,299 |
| skepticalscience.com | Cook | alarmist | 69.10% | 73,787 |
| realclimate.org | Schmidt | alarmist | 78.70% | 137,851 |
| climatedepot.com | Morano | skeptic | 67.80% | 47,880 |
| climaterealityproject.org | Gore | alarmist | 43.00% | 226,434 |
| bishop-hill.net | Montford | skeptic | 41.10% | 84,427 |
| climateaudit.org | McIntyre | skeptic | 63.20% | 76,583 |
| 350.org | McKibben | alarmist | 62.80% | 101,225 |
| thegwpf.org | Peiser | skeptic | 41.60% | 79,508 |
| planet3.org | Tobis | alarmist | 70.60% | 1,481,021 |
| rankexploits.com | Liljegren | lukewarmer | 53.70% | 238,563 |
| davidappell.blogspot.com | Appell | alarmist | 68.40% | 1,593,226 |
| ipcc.ch | U.N. | alarmist | 54.00% | 173,946 |
| globalwarming.org | C.E.I | skeptic | 59.50% | 916,180 |
| drroyspencer.com | Spencer | skeptic | 60.40% | 126,437 |
| joannenova.com.au | Nova | skeptic | 64.00% | 61,953 |
| theconversation.com | AU/UK gov | alarmist | 74.20% | 18,911 |
| climatecrocks.com | Sinclair | alarmist | 66.70% | 321,875 |
| principia-scientific.org | O’Sullivan | undefinable | 81.50% | 403,759 |
| forecastthefacts.org | Soros? | alarmist | 25.00% | 607,366 |
| judithcurry.com | Curry | lukewarmer | 57.60% | 85,517 |
| climate.gov | NOAA | alarmist | 83.70% | 140,025 |
All data above gathered as of 3/15/14 via Alexa.com, and each link is to the alexa.com results.
* Global Traffic Rank score, lower is better, for example Google is ranked as 1.
The most surprising thing to me was finding that NOAA’s climate.gov had a bounce rate of 83.70%, more than twice that of WUWT at 40.90%, and even higher than the “slayers” at principia-scientific. It’s pretty bad when a government website with a budget can’t outperform one of the wackiest climate related websites in existence in engaging their audience. Another surprising thing was that the oxymoronically named agenda driven attack website forecastthefacts had a bounce rate of only 25%. I think this is because there is so little information on their front page that anyone that gets sent there has to click on at least one link (such as about) to figure out who they are. their global ranking is even worse than the “principia/slayers”, suggesting that few are taking them seriously.
From the table, it seems that skeptical websites tend to be ranked generally as having more traffic and lower bounce rates than alarmist websites with some exceptions. Climateaudit tends to have a higher bounce rate due to its highly technical nature, and does Judy Curry’s shop.
According to an Inc.com article:
“As a rule of thumb, a 50 percent bounce rate is average. If you surpass 60 percent, you should be concerned. If you’re in excess of 80 percent, you’ve got a major problem.”
Clearly, a number global warming proponents and some skeptics aren’t very successful in getting their message across on the Internet, NOAA and “Slayers” in particular.
UPDATE: Some folks wanted to see the **daily time spent on each site in minute & seconds per day, so here is an updated table with that added: I had to make this table as an image since wordpress doesn’t play nice with table insertions wider than the available writing space. The highest and lowest values of daily time on site are highlighted.
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Anthony, Alexa rankings and data aren’t reliable. You shouldn’t use that to draw any conclusions about who is doing better.
Take for example HotWhopper and my website Real Sceptic. A while back I noticed that I outranked HotWhopper with a score of 858,248 vs HotWhopper’s ranking of 897,008.
Yet when you looked at direct measurements it became obvious that HotWhopper had fourteen times the number of pageviews and nine times the number of visitors that my website received. Though Alexa showed HotWhopper having a lower ranking than me and showing a drop in ranking while direct measurements were showing an increase in traffic/views.
You can find all the details here:
http://www.realsceptic.com/2014/02/01/shouldnt-use-alexa/
HotWhopper at the moment outranks me again, but that’s due to Sou and I doing some Alexa ranking manipulation (it’s part of an experiment I’m running for a final Alexa article). It’s remarkably easy to influence the Alexa ranking of a website you own.
Please stop using Alexa to make definite claims about who is doing better. That’s simply not possible with Alexa data/statistics. They are just too unreliable.
Same same, only different …
P.D. Caldwell says:
March 15, 2014 at 12:40 pm
I apologize for adding to your ‘bounce rate’ by visiting WUWT several times a day to look for any new postings.
REPLY: No apologies needed. – Anthony
Sorry Anthony, but I too have been contributing to your bounce rate by having the default home page on all of my web browsers on all of my computers set to http://wattsupwiththat.com/
On the up side, my thirteen year old is slowly deprogramming his public school classmates based on what he sees whenever he opens his web browser vs what they hear everywhere else.
I read just about everything including discuusions on the site, but I also ” bounce” several times a day checking for news. So in effect I raise “time on site” as well as raising the “bounce” rate. Is there a metric for site visits per day for individuals?
Heh, Brian H, I like that 100 second lag, it measures the time it takes the clutch to engage the brain.
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I don’t know if all that smoke is burning clutch or burning rubber.
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Anthony, forecastthefacts.org achieves its remarkable low bounce rate by having a content free index / home page. It is nothing but a “navigation page” with links to other pages : the reader has no coice but to bail out [75% do just that ] or click on some link. As a retire web designer, I consider this poor design. It gives the customer nothing for his original investment.
REPLY: all that stuff is at the Alexa links I provided in the first table. Do I have to do everything? Minutes/seconds/day for you lazy bones. – Anthony
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In your chart Rate has * and TOS has **.
Yes, they require explanation.
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No, it doesn’t. I assume you forgot your sarc tag.
Take your time and poke around.. Who knows you might learn something ;P
UPDATE: Some folks wanted to see the …
HOW ABOUT a ‘normalized’ bounce percentage – derived by lopping off 40% from *all* figures, as it appears the lowest ‘bounce’ rate is around 40% (part of that being first page level only search bots?) … would that be useful that as a baseline (asked as a question)?
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re: PiperPaul says March 15, 2014 at 10:03 pm
Don’t forget that since browser tabs were invented, many people stay logged-in all the time (unless they are Windows users, because that OS requires a restart every 11.34 hours).
Suggest user above may be heavily virus infested (and not know it? Maybe a boot sector infection not cured by ‘usual’ virus scanners/eradicators); no such restart needed here and I have gone for weeks this winter before closing even the Google ‘browser’ window (using the PC for ‘heat’ ya see) …
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As I understand it, and I’d definitely welcome correction if I’m wrong, if you opened WUWT but then went to a different site without clicking on a post, that would count as a “bounce”.
(I don’t know if clicking on another site from a link on WUWT would count as a bounce or not.)
Looks like we are continuing to post devastatingly strong site performance stats since I started writing about them. Great work Anthony.
Happy to see that our devastatingly strong site performance stats continue to leave the alarmists in the dust, since I first started reporting on them.
@Tommy E – Great idea! Deprogramming kids is a great cause!
Hi Guys, I run a Google Partner Search Marketing Company, so I do this for a living. I also help out the Galileo Movement here in Oz. In my humble opinion Anthony is correct in the way in which he has presented this information. Bounce rates are aggregates across all landing pages of a site. Sites like Skeptical Science and WUWT have large numbers of pages indexed so bounce rate across that many different landing pages would be a very significant proxy for page quality.
That fits into a wider signal – Google knows what your site is about, it knows how many words you have on a page and also this data for similar sites. So time on site works with bounce rate and page size as compared to the industry average to show how engaging your site is.
It may be a stretch to work that backwards, assume all sites in the sample have equal page and site quality and therefore the difference is in VISITOR quality but that is fun to speculate.
It is significant though that the global cooling deniers spend less time on their sites than us visionary questioners of scientific consensus spend on ours. I guess sceptics are just that – sceptical. We ask more questions and think about what we are being told. Alarmists don’t need long to look at a graph or headline that has been set free from the constraints of scientific integrity, feel reassured that their religion is triumphant, say a few hail al’s and leave.
Now I should also put my Google hat on for a moment. Everything works together in your site quality score which bounce tends to be a product of – navigation, page load speed, cross-device compatibility, placement of content, grammar etc. So it is a little awkward to pull one factor out and focus too much on it. That is like a Scientist pulling out Carbon Dioxide from the suite of atmospheric gasses and blaming something like – oh I don’t know – increasing global temperatures – on that one gas. 🙂
One last point on bots – these have a signature that identify them to metrics sites as bots, which are then ignored in the stats, or should be. If not it would still be a similar percentage between similar sites in a similar industry.
But I do agree with Anthony, its nicer on this side of that metric!
Cheers
Richard
Having read this I believed it was really informative.
I appreciate you spending some time and energy to put this short article together.
I once again find myself spending a lot of time both reading and commenting.
But so what, it was still worth it!