While some people speculate there was a climate bloviage link to the recent loss of a congressional seat in Florida, we have the name calling all nighter clownfest in the Senate last Monday.
Bjørn Lomborg writes on his Facebook page: A new survey from Gallup shows that Americans don’t worry all that much about global warming.
This is very similar to the survey showing Europeans worrying a lot more about almost all other issues than global warming, https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152349665523968
This does not mean that global warming is not a problem or something that needs to be addressed. But it does indicate that politicians are vastly overhyping the discussion and likely doing us a great disservice by focusing on short-term fixes like solar and wind that have huge costs but almost no benefits.
It is also encouraging that race relations is the least important worry in the US now.
Data: http://www.gallup.com/poll/167843/climate-change-not-top-worry.aspx
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Meanwhile the senate fiddles with name-calling while their constituents burn. “just some guy” writes via email:
Forbes has a good article today stating that Alex Sink’s loss was as much a part of global warming alarmism as anything else. This loss represents a true bellwether as Democrats and Republicans spent over $12 million dollars on this single race.
And, from Stephen Rasey in a comment about the congressional record from the Senate all-nighter:
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This is a first pass summary of the use of “denier” in the March 10-11 Senate Climate Change Transcript.
CR_Page , CR_Speaker _, CR_Text
S1378 __, REID ________, climate change deniers still exist.
S1378 __, REID ________, the deniers.
S1379 __, SCHUMER _____, deniers like to claim there are competing
S1379 __, SCHUMER _____, Climate change deniers need to wake
S1379 __, BOXER _______, The deniers have given in to the
S1381 __, BLUMENTHAL _, deniers, who are as much a part of the
S1381 __, KING ________, I would not call myself a denier, but
S1387 __, BOXER _______, but who I think is a dangerous denier,
S1387 __, BOXER _______, a dangerous denier in the face of 97 percent
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, our climate deniers tend to use. I will
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, This was a prominent climate denier
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, in Antarctica. More and more deniers
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, Some deniers also like to use responsible
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, So deniers cannot in good conscience
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, deal. Maybe it is even good. As deniers
S1388 __, SCHATZ ______, This category of deniers accepts the reality,
S1390 __, FEINSTEIN __, change deniers, reported to Congress in
S1392 __, WHITEHOUSE _, which the climate denier community
S1392 __, WHITEHOUSE _, That is how much fuss the deniers
S1393 __, BOXER _______, deniers are standing with 3 percent of
S1393 __, BOXER _______, we have proven the point that deniers
S1395 __, FRANKEN _____, deniers have taken this as a sign that
S1400 __, KAINE _______, science deniers and leadership deniers,
S1400 __, KAINE _______, To science deniers, I am happy to say
S1401 __, KAINE _______, It is the skeptics and the deniers who
S1401 __, KAINE _______, variety, climate denier or leadership
S1401 __, KAINE _______, denier, don’t underestimate American
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Amatør1 says:
March 12, 2014 at 12:43 pm
Well, at least it was worth repeating. (see 11:03 AM)
There are no benefits to wind and solar, except to those who are making a fortune pushing them.
On net, they are both negative in their impacts, both on the environment and on the budgets of individuals and countries.
The senators involved called themselves a “taskforce.” Taskforces came into their own in the naval commands of WWII. They were, and are, specific units formed to accomplish a particular objective, or “task.”
What, precisely, do these senators (D) consider the task? What forces are to be dedicated to their goal?
I’m not being wholly rhetorical: you cannot define the task. The forces are spurious or non-existent.
I would be more interested in what these senators (D) have to say if they did not appear to be indulging themselves in a fund-raising stunt.
Boy, would me choices be in a different order. I’d out climate change dead last. Nothing our government touches works out well. My number one would be the size and power of the federal government because all other problems are influenced by this.
Thanks to the ACA our family of 4 health insurance, which we pay for ourselves because hubby is self-employed, went up $200 a month as soon as the law passed. We got a call yesterday from our insurance broker that our plan is going up $300 a month. $500 more a month, The president said we would save up to $2500 a year. I’d laugh, but then I would probably cry.
Doggone ipad changing words, that was my not me, and put, not out.
” stevek says:
March 12, 2014 at 11:09 am
Best way to turn people off climate change is to tell them the so called expert predictions have failed, 98% of their predictions have not come true.”
Good point. I often provide fact-finding for articles forwarded to me from friends. I usually refute the first 2-5 statements. If they’re egregiously wrong, the remainder are disregarded as having a high probability of being wrong. The author (and frequently the sender) is put on the list of folks who can’t speak truth, and should be ignored. That’s what is happening to the climate ‘expert predictions’. Too slowly for my taste!
Listen to the hearings and do a shot for each “denier”.
@theOtherJohninCalif
My wife leans liberal and listens to npr too much. Anyway to convince her I just showed the graph where all the models run way above reality. I just tell her that yes there might be some warming but it is greatly exaggerated and that these people predicted the artic would be ice free by now. Once ond side loses public trust it is very hard for them to win it back.
One would say using the term “denier” 28 times in a single session is remarkable. Where is the Anti-Defamation Leage to condemn the US Senate this time?
Even the Nazi Analogy is thrown in, by Angus Stanley King, Jr., Senator from Maine, rather eloquently and in much detail (S1406).
It is of course skipped conveniently in the video excerpt.
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BejQ9xx2Dmk?rel=0&w=640&h=360%5D
I notice that Boxer not only used the D-word, she also brought up the 97% twaddle. Yesterday, even the BBC had a small article about how ‘election’ victories that are close to 100% are almost always a result of cooking the books.
Famous dictators and unpleasant regimes include:
North Korean leader Kim Jong-un was elected to the rubber-stamp parliament with 100% votes on Monday…
Supreme Leader Kim Jong-il fared almost as well as his son in 2009, winning 99.9 % of votes…
Saddam Hussein also won 100% votes in a 2002 referendum…
Raul Castro earned 99.4% votes in the 2008 Cuban election…
Syria’s Bashar al-Assad secured 97.6% votes for his 2007 presidential referendum…
Yes. I saw yours afterwards. “Two souls, one thought” as we say.
Speaking of the ADL … ALL of the comments have been deleted. ALL.
see: http://atlanta.adl.org/news/adl-condemns-spencers-nazi-analogy/
About a week ago there were many, many comments at this link condemning the ADM action in attacking Dr. Spencer, but not those using the word “denier” and tying it to the holocaust, and there are MANY.
It must have been so embarrassing to the ADL and Shelley Rose that they eventually decided to take down ALL the comments.
Cowards.
Oh yes it does. It is not a problem, there is nothing to be addressed and people know this.
Further to my last comment what if global warming is net BENEFICIAL? Should it be addressed? Of course not.
Isn’t it ironic that the actions of our elected politicians to address the global warming/climate change that citizens are not concerned about, are exactly the wrong things to be doing in order to address many of the the legit issues that people are concerned with.
This is a serious conflict involving government imposing its will based on their agenda vs providing citizens with the service/job, that these politicians were voted into office to do.
If I pay a landscaper to mow the lawn, rake the leaves and sweep the sidewalk and he decides those jobs aren’t important but instead decides my landscaping bushes are ugly and pulls them out based on his “expert” opinion, his ars is fired and he gets a lawsuit, demanding replacement value for the bushes and my money back that I paid him to cut the grass.
This is exactly why the size and power of the federal government is near the top of that list, as well as excessive spending based on agenda’s of government.
We went these people to make decisions that GROW THE ECONOMY, INCREASE JOBS, make ENERGY MORE AFFORDABLE and CUT SPENDING!!!!!
Sorry for the caps. It would seem that this message out to be screamed at the highest volume possible into the ears of all the civil servants who are not doing the job we hired them to do.
To:Anyone Associated with or a Member of the Anti-Deformation League:
FYI => The US Democrat Political Party last night in the Capital displayed insensitivity more than 2 dozen times toward the Holocaust by using the word denier in a way that associated some scientists and skeptics with the deniers of the Holocaust.
I hope you find this useful in your efforts to prevent the insensitivity displayed by such references to the Holocaust.
John
If they didn’t have labels like, “the deniers” and “climate change deniers” they wouldn’t have much to say. It seems that the supporters of AGW are just engaging in name calling to make their point. However, the Gallup poll is showing that trick isn’t working any more.
Climate change doesn’t worry me in the slightest, but climate change fear mongering is one of my top worries.
The climate hoax deniers just reinforced my fears with their Senate blabathon.
In 1943, Abraham Maslow introduced his “Hierarchy of Needs” model. Most of those items at the top of the Gallup Poll fit right in with the base of Maslow’s pyramid of needs. This indicates a populace that is in a very insecure mode.
@Eric Smpson –
I graduated from UCSB and received my PhD in American history from there in 1970.
I recently wrote to chancellor Henry Yang and told him that as long as his institution indulged itself in the anti-science of global warming alarmism, I would not donate, and I asked him to remove my name from the alumni association list and stop sending me requests for donations until such time as all the alarmists and lefties are gone from the faculty there.
Judging from the namby-pamby reply I got, I have to assume I didn’t make a dent in their smug belief in themselves, so I suppose I wasted my time writing. But at least, hopefully, I won’t get any more whining from them for money to support their bad habits. And I’ll know they aren’t spending my money to pursue their odious agenda.
Alumni who see their institutions descending into this sort of medieval knavery should also tell those institutions to buzz off when they come crying for money.
@Berenyi Peter (my apologies, my keyboard can’t provide3 the accent):
The new Holocaust to which I previously referred here is already up to something like 3 million in total. Some idea of how that might climb not only from climate alarmism, but also from other misdeeds by these mollusks in the Senate: how about increased cancer death rates due to Obamacare keeping late-stage cancer patients – or all cancer patients – from getting prompt treatment and the medicines they need (cancer death rates in socialized medicine countries are 20% higher than in the US, though Canada does a little nbetter because Canadiqans sometimes can get access to US cancer care)? And then we have an avowed eugenicist as the White House “science” advisor.
It’s all tied up together. Not hard to understand the determination of the alarmists.
Doggie treat and a pat on the head to Senator Bernie Sanders for blessing us with an utterly predictable 20 year-old talking point, pg 21, center column near the top: “… the debate we are having now is very reminiscent of the debate we had 30 or 40 years ago about the role tobacco plays in cancer … We had people, well-funded by the Tobacco Institute, … saying: You know smoking is okay; there is no evidence linking smoking to cancer. Well, they were lying … I think we are in the same position now. A lot of the information—misinformation—which is coming forward is funded by the fossil fuel industry …”
I won’t be holding my breath waiting for Senator Sanders to provide an iota of evidence proving a paid arrangement exists with any skeptic climate scientist for the fabrication of false climate assessments.
I just attended a confab of people involved in aquatic habitat improvement work. The purpose of the gathering was to get to know who is doing what, form alliances, etc. A previous, first meeting had laid out some areas of interest and action, and those were voted on for importance here. One item – Climate Change – was ranked dead last with a whole 9% of attendees wanting to talk about it. This, mind you, was in a group that is heavily filled by greenies and government types (salted by a few white-haired, irascible retired exploration geologists, brook trout fishermen, and other deniers). I think it a good sign.
Anyone who believes that an elected representative is automatically smart, should listen to Rep. Hank Johnson’s worries regarding Guam.
Johnson is the kind of piolitician that believes global warming is gonna getcha! There are lots of them in Congress.
[“My fear is that the whole island will become so overpopulated that it will capsize.”
~H. Johnson, elected U.S. Congressman]
If you, perchance, saw the O’ Reilly show on Fox tonight then you just saw one of the most obnoxious and egocentric people in the spot light (as the #1 prime time news show on the #1 cable news channel, more people saw these few moments than I would guess saw all of the skeptic blogs for I have no idea how many months) toss out, ad nauseum, the required talking points of those who want your money to fix the weather.
I love you folks and the way that you have enriched my life. I’m only begging the more articulate among you to express yourselves outside this, actually, tiny little room.
The economy is the only thing preventing their complete control of the message.